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Your 1/4 mile times
Hi guys.. just wanting to know what qauter mile drag times u guys have got at the tracks..
i got a 13.9@106mph.. on stock boost... which is pretty good as its only 7psi or 0.6 bar...so ill be crankking it up and trying to his low 13's what about you guys ?? |
im guessing 16-17's as my 60 time arives in about the mid 9 second range. my car in my sig.
ill out haul you, and accellerate faster in 'inclamate' condidtions tho :P :wink: |
Umm, sorry if I missed a post somewhere else where you told us what kind of car you drive...but what kind of car do you drive?
I pull 17s I think...lol |
well I've never taken my car up there and I wouldn't expect too much out of ti in it's current state having 170K miles on it's tranny, but I plan on some major improvements soon :wink:
I did run a low 12 ina friends Roush 360R which isn't that impressive but it was the first time I drove the car. |
My truck is around high 16s as of now, give me two-three months i will hit high 15s :D
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guys i'm sorry but without timeslips, i'm thinkin someone is gonna come in here sayin they run 9's in a Civic, when in reality they run a 23 in their mom's minivan. just my opinion. |
shit there's a van at my local track that runs low 9 with passengers and groceries in it seriously the thing has an insane Turbo Deseil in it, there are older vids around but now he runs faster.
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it surprised me at first how fast a diesel could go, but then i thought about the energy of diesel vs gas and wasn't so shocked.
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yes ronin005 u can stick your granny on a course and watch her go around the track also .. im not talking about your ablility to go around corners. . im talking about the ability of your car.. how quick it accelerates.. going around a track in a car taht car accelerate isnt fun is it ??? but a car that ca get to 200km in only 400 meters now thats exciting. !!! and being able to take that around a track is impressive.. now sperating the boys and the men isnt as easy as who piss's further.
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Acceleration seems to be the American ethos to life, eg taking the Corvette (loud and fast in a straight line) and then modify it to go faster but not modifying the suspension so it can still spin when parked.
Look how many truly great american sports cars there are that could out handle a european one, 1 or 2? Lets face it the space shuttle has great engines, wild acceleration and ludicrous top speed but she won't turn corners for shit. Acceleration is only about money. The more money you throw at an engine the more power it will produce, the lower the drag time. Obviously there is a limit to how far you can go and that is where the drag strip comes in, to test who has spent lots of money in the best way. Tirade over, who's up to flame me first. LOL 8) |
no flaming coming from this corner. while the drag strip is entertaing to see raw power, most of us here at JW prefer road racing. Quite few F1 and WRC nuts around here. I see this is your first post so let me be the first to welcome you to JW and thank you for not wasting your JW cherry on pointless drivel :wink:
and yes, you have a point, there are not many Detroit bred machines that have stuck it to the Europeans. Corvette, GT40 and Viper to rattle off a few (although i wouldn't bank quite so much on the Viper). Our heritage seems to be either in a straight line or getting dizzy ona circle track :wink: |
Thanks for the welcome.
I used to be a small oval fan before they closed my local circuit down (Aldershot UK). Since then I have turned my attention to local rallying events and Rallycross. F1 is snoozeworthy these days and the WRC coverage on terestrial TV is pitiful. I would agree with GT40 and Viper, but the corvette is pushing the mark a little, better the Cobra? Scary but entertaining. :shock: |
crx with b18b = 14's :roll:
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9 sec on my banshee on reverse gear. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol:
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I can run a 12.9 now with my WRX engine swap with utec stage 2.
take it easy, Micah |
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Provide your proof (and the over sized oaf with the Kevin Kegan hairdo doesn't count) that a Corvette cannot dominate the road course world... I am guessing you have never watched LeMans in the last 5 years - or seen Z06's at track days or been strapped into the passenger seat of one ;) It is amazing how people will allow and give credit to Ferrari and Porsche etal for improving their cars year after year - and acknowledge that the cars improve and mature over time - yet will simply quote a Corvette from 1985 as the only valid comparison... :P But then again, I guess it only makes the victory sweeter when we are able to soundly whip em at the strip, on the street and even round the bends... ;) |
I think possibly you misunderstand me, the slur was that you can park a corvette, go into a shop and when you come out it is facing the other way.
Wheelspins don't take that much skill, look at an Essex cruise to see evidence of that. The shuttle was an aside, not meant to be held up as a benchmark for handling but the fact that the americans really know how to build engines. I have no personal experience with Corvettes admittedly, but a colleague of mine owned one until it nearly killed him. As you moved to track cars, the last time I looked at CART racing 95%+ of the cars were designed and built in the UK. We can design great cars, we just can't mass produce them profitably. Back to the road and the latest mustang, which if I understand correctly, is an americanised version of an Australian Holden which is based on the Opel Omega. This brings me to the question no-one (until now possibly) can give me a satisfactory answer to. If american domestic cars are so good, why don't more get sold in Europe. I know about jeep, the limited success of the Chrysler Voyager/Neon's and the mighty Viper, any more? A Porsche fan I am not. The triumph of engineering over physics does nothing to tap my juices. My last questions are these. What cars do the rich and famous drive? What do they aspire to? Pictures at this site show parts of LA stuffed with European machinery; Mercs, Ferraris, Bently's etc. Why is that? |
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Your response above is so full of trash and factual flaws I have to assume this is a bogus logon that Jabba created to try test me.. ;) No-one single human could have such a vacuous cranium as you are displaying.. :P If however, you are in fact a real person - bring your arse over to the American forum and get yourself owned.. :) |
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If you're looking for an intelligent answer from RC45 you're going to be looking for awhile. He's more of an antagonist than anything. :roll: I understood your point about the Space Shuttle, and thanks for the compliment. I have been pretty partial to American V8s for quite awhile LA is one of the most insanely expensive places to live in the US. Every celebrity here has a multi-million dollar home in the LA suburbs and can afford to stuff a Ferrari, Bently or Rolls-Royce in their garage. I really can't explain why American muscle isn't more popular in Europe. My guess would be the cost of shipping them over there would push their price up to what a European car is here. But then again the Vette and basic 5 series are around the same price bracket. Or maybe it's the lack of creature comforts the Corvette or Mustang offer when compared to BMW, AUDI or Mercedes. I don't know what customers in Europe look for compared to what customers look for here, so i can't give you an answer. :wink: |
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I am sure you are aware that Opel and Holden are GM companies - so what that would have to do with the Mustang please tell us? |
A SVT cobra will own most euro cars. I handle well and crushes them in the 1/4 mile. The viper is about power, vette budget busters, but when a 30K Mustang will own a Ferrari in the 1/4, the is American pride :D
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B) the SVT mustang will NOT "own" the M5 or CGT or (as much as it pains me to say this) the E55. C) Ferrari's are not built with a 1300' strip of concrete i mind. Neither are any of the European cars for that matter. they are built the the track in mind. Last i saw, a Cobra SVT was no where near an ALMS podium finish, or even an endurance race like 12 hrs of Sebring or the Daytona 24hr race. |
you take the cash you save buying a new Cobra over an M5 or E55 and invest it into the car and you will be tearing the 1/4 up in 9-8 sec. easy $20k and a Mustang = amzing things (either road racing or drag racing) Go to Kenny Brown they build some really good Track cars from Cobras.
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as a previous thread proved though, with enough time and money you could make a clown car rip up a track.
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you could put the cost diff into the turning ablities of the Cobra and own them some more
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the cobra won't out handle an M5. i don't care what you do to it. where the suspension gives out, traction control takes over. and unless your cobra handles 1.2g on the skidpad, you will NOT be owning anything.
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thanks for the clarification brembo. hopefully that helps anyone else who might have been wondering the same thing :wink:
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yeah, like i said 1.2g for the M5 AND over 500hp. More grip in the corners, and more punch in the straights. plus built in shift lights let you know when you've hit optimal shift so you can smack the paddle consistently in the sweet spot and be right back in the power. and in case you want to get a little throttle happy, the Drag Torque Reduction feature of the M5's DSC system will keep the engine from spinning the wheels and causing your ass end to try and play tag with the front end. Something your Cobra R isn't smart enough to do.
Even if you took the saved money and tuned the car, you would still not have the ammenities of the M5. your teeth are going to rattle out of your skull because of the suspension stiffening, your arms are going to fall off from having to whip the steering wheel more than 2 revolutions whereas the M5 is going to go lock to lock in 1.6 (not sure if the AFS has been refined from the current E60 for the M) and do we even have to get into the NA vs FI debate again? the M5 is a better car off the showroom floor PERIOD. Go ahead and tune it all you want. In the end you'll still end up spending more money than if you ahd just bought the M5. |
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hmm...wonder who's gettin owned now... :lol:
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12.52 sec @ 118 mph (stock tires = no traction in 1st) in my corvette :mrgreen:
Oh, thats at 6020 ft. Altitude. |
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btw im an american and generaly i dont like american cars. i just dont understand my fellow contry men. for instance NASCAR is the most popular sport; thats just sad. i wish i could move to europe |
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you would think they'd be dizzy after 3 laps
IRL isn't much better. they go even faster around some of the same tracks. |
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One thing you forgot with you quote......a picture http://img36.exs.cx/img36/7128/8969r...egos-owned.jpg |
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The 2000 Cobra-R was basically a normally aspirated TransAm series car for the streets... including a very expensive IR-suspension. It is also a very serious car - and being track-tuned will outhandle many many cars of it's day and newer. In short the 2000 Cobra-R can run and gun with the Z06 (remember this ran a 7:56 at Nuburgring) and the Viper GTS-ACR, another race-track tuned car. |
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In the meantime I get t enjoy a car that runs and guns with the uber-expensive shit - but don't spend uber-money. :) But as proven by the many wealthy Europeans who import the Z06 - they know what they are getting... an alternative to Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche performance - and enjoy it as such. :) Afterall, we are performance enthusiasts, not fashion designers.. ;) |
RC you seem to be slipping in your response times :lol:
and i didn't say the cobra r was crap, i just said that it wouldn't be owning any european cars. Quote:
But if you want to get universal, the M5 will still mop up a track like Infineion (aka Sears Point) and then go out to Watkins Glen and DESTROY the Cobra's laptimes. Just for shits and giggles, lets throw in Laguna Seca, Portland International, and Road Atlanta was well. Then we can go overseas and attack Monza, Silverstone, Hungoraring and oh, i dunno, maybe SpaFrancorchamps as well. The only american car i would worry about hanging with the BMW is the Corvette. C5-R, Z-06 or even the C6. IMO, the 'Vette is the only car that has proven itself to be a threat in the GTS category. And power to weight gets factored in when you are talking about cars that are evenly matched in the numbers. NOT when there is a 100HP difference. and if you want to talk about balance...well i think it goes with out saying that the M5 is balanced MUCH more evenly than the Cobra. Tuning on the NS is much more effective than any test course/proving ground Ford uses over here. |
Oh god, what beast have I unleashed?!
Anyone know the strip time for a stock Volvo 940 2.0 Turbo? (Wifes car) |
what's the weight and hp?
I can tell you then... |
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can some please tell me your 1/4 mile times.. i dont care if u like them or not .. if u havnt got a 1/4 mile time .. take your arguments else where ... im intrested in what times people acheive around the world .... jesus jabba tell them something .. :/
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http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthr...t=33104&page=1
looks like someone was happy with their stock 360 (8:10 on the nordschliefe?) even though they've owned a M5, Z06 and Z8 ;) Its not all about the lap times and specs RC :P |
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BTW - what is the reason for trying to derail this 1/4 mile topic again? Please keep the discussion on topic. |
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I never pretended it was anything else - simply stating that many, many people would stupidly rather spite themselves and NOT experience real performance in their own driveway, because they refuse to admit that you don't have to cut a cheque to an exotic car company to get a super car stop, go, turn package. |
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I am still waiting for a single fact I have ever posted to be countered with an opposing fact (rather than shallow opinion) And so much for not hijacking this guys 1/4 mile thread. |
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