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tigersoul 07-05-2004 07:38 PM

The real name of new Ferrari is...
 
420 Fiorano :wink:

SilviaEvo 07-05-2004 08:29 PM

i was wondering what it was called heard bout 400,420, and 430?

budagboy2 07-05-2004 08:45 PM

where did you hear that?

T-Bird 07-05-2004 08:50 PM

I was under the impression they went and got the rights to 430 already so how would it be 420? Proof please!

chipanggo 07-05-2004 09:39 PM

it sounds nice, but is this confirmed?

fabro_s 07-06-2004 02:26 AM

Damn I dont know why Ferraris names just makes me fly!!!!!!!!, they are really sexy names, and they dont try to hard to get them, they just put the name of Italian Cities on the cars, also love the Lambo names, Gallardo, Diablo,Murcielago agressiveeeeeeee names!

Marannelo, Stradale, Scaglietti sexyyyyyyyyy namesssssssssss!!!!!!
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yg60m 07-06-2004 02:29 AM

I will wait it to be confirmed :|

X-ale 07-06-2004 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fabro_s
Damn I dont know why Ferraris names just makes me fly!!!!!!!!, they are really sexy names, and they dont try to hard to get them, they just put the name of Italian Cities on the cars, also love the Lambo names, Gallardo, Diablo,Murcielago agressiveeeeeeee names!

Marannelo, Stradale, Scaglietti sexyyyyyyyyy namesssssssssss!!!!!!
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Agressive? Mmmmm... Sexy? Maranallo sounds like a guys name dude. Are you Gay? You should go see a shrink. Maybe a ho will do. Promised :?:

v0od0o 07-06-2004 03:58 AM

lol @ x-ale
Anyway, it may be worth mentioning while we're at it that Diablo is spanish for "Devil" and Murcielago means a bull that was brave in the ring. Looked up "Gallardo" and found it is spanish for "Striking"

ae86_16v 07-06-2004 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by v0od0o
lol @ x-ale
Anyway, it may be worth mentioning while we're at it that Diablo is spanish for "Devil" and Murcielago means a bull that was brave in the ring. Looked up "Gallardo" and found it is spanish for "Striking"

I thought all Lambos were named after Bulls?

v0od0o 07-06-2004 10:23 AM

I think only the murcielago is
What I can't understand though is why they use spanish and not italian for their names.....

Jabba 07-06-2004 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fabro_s
Damn I dont know why Ferraris names just makes me fly!!!!!!!!, they are really sexy names, and they dont try to hard to get them, they just put the name of Italian Cities on the cars, also love the Lambo names, Gallardo, Diablo,Murcielago agressiveeeeeeee names!

Marannelo, Stradale, Scaglietti sexyyyyyyyyy namesssssssssss!!!!!!
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I like Miura, Countach and Diablo...the latest two are not "aggressive" enough for Lamborghini names IMO.

Jabba 07-06-2004 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by v0od0o
I think only the murcielago is
What I can't understand though is why they use spanish and not italian for their names.....

Spain obvisouly has more of a history when it comes to bulls than Italy does.

v0od0o 07-06-2004 10:48 AM

maybe, but they only used a bull's name once....
I don't think a Lamborghini "Diavolo" would have been better than the Diablo though :lol:

Jabba 07-06-2004 11:01 AM

First no maybe about it.

Second Mirua is a breed of spanish fighting bulls as is Gallardo with Murcielago thats at least three of their cars I can think of and not one.

v0od0o 07-06-2004 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabba
Mirua is a breed of spanish fighting bulls.

Thanx, been looking around for the meaning since I posted this actually :D

Jabba 07-06-2004 11:10 AM

Wait until the Lamborghini hunter arrives...I am sure he will be able to provide us with pictures of the actual bulls the cars were named after...LOL.

Jabba 07-06-2004 11:12 AM

Ferruccio Lamborghini - born under the zodiac sign of Taurus - when he founded the famous super car company, that since then bears his name, gave to it the symbol of the fighting bull. Later, when the Miura was introduced, he named the car after a famous bull's race, and this practice became a tradition for the House of the Bull. Honouring this tradition, the Management of Automobili Lamborghini have decided to baptize their latest model with the name of a fighting bull's breed: the Gallardo (pron.: ga:yĂ*rdo). Most people probably are not aware that the origins of the fighting bull proceed from five main breeds, that is: Cabrera, Navarra, Vasqueña, Vistahermosa and Gallardo. Today, ninety percent of the fighting bull breeds proceed from Vistahermosa branch, with some exceptions, such as the Miura race - that comes from the Navarro - which is today the only breeding stock that maintains a pure origin. Another exception is the breeding race of "Partido de Resina" - that was called once of "Pablo Romero"-, that comes from the Gallardo race. Historically, these bulls have enjoyed a well-deserved fame of being the most beautiful specimen within the race.

v0od0o 07-06-2004 11:16 AM

hehehe, he's a taurus, like me :D
Now I know why I like lamborghinis :lol:
Thanx jabba for the info, pretty interesting

tigerx 07-06-2004 11:18 AM

lol how this a post about ferrari turn into a post about lamborghini so fast???

Jabba 07-06-2004 11:18 AM

Yep for me as well...I knew some of it but this is very interesting for anyone that thought Martin Brundle had a lisp in his DVD "Brundles Supercars".

Murcielago : The name translates as “bat” in Spanish, and it’s pronounced “mercy-AY-lah-go.” Unless you’re Castillian, that is, where you add a lisp, and it becomes “mirthy-AY-lah-go.”

stradale 07-06-2004 11:19 AM

^^^ Lamborghini has used names of famous fighting bulls or the names of their races far more than once.
The Miura, for instance, is named after Don Eduardo Miura, who was a famous breeder.
Diablo might also mean devil, but "the name 'Diablo' was in fact taken from a ferocious bull raised by the Duke of Veragua in the 19th century. It fought an epic battle with 'El Chicorro' in Madrid on July 11th 1869, this animal became legendary and its well-known history and its name were aggressive enough to be used for a Lamborghini." (quote from http://www.lambocars.com)
I have been searching for the explanation of the names Islero, Marzal, Espada, Jarama (obviously also the name of a Spanish track) and Urraco, but I lent the book in which it's probably all explained to my father at the moment. My other books on Lamborghini don't give much information. :(

EDIT: Jabba, Murciélago is also the name of a famous and courageous bull. It impressed everyone so much that it was left alive after the fight instead of the usual putting to death.

Jabba 07-06-2004 11:23 AM

I am sure the Countach is connected to a bull as well but I am still looking for confirmation.

Jabba 07-06-2004 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stradale
EDIT: Jabba, Murciélago is also the name of a famous and courageous bull. It impressed everyone so much that it was left alive after the fight instead of the usual putting to death.

Yep I knew that but not that Brundle was correct in pronouncing the name with a lisp.

stradale 07-06-2004 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jabba
I am sure the Countach is connected to a bull as well but I am still looking for confirmation.

Countach is not linked to bulls in any way. It's Italian slang from the dialect of the Modena region. It's an outcry of amazement and can be used for things of beauty as well as for things that are overpowering. For instance, when a beautiful woman walks by, the men would exclaim: "countach!"

Legend has it that when the body of the Countach protoype rolled out of the painting area in bright yellow one of the employees said: "countach!" and thus the name was born. Whether it is true, no one knows, but it's a great story and still sounds very credible... :D

stradale 07-06-2004 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jabba
Quote:

Originally Posted by stradale
EDIT: Jabba, Murciélago is also the name of a famous and courageous bull. It impressed everyone so much that it was left alive after the fight instead of the usual putting to death.

Yep I knew that but not that Brundle was correct in pronouncing the name with a lisp.

Oh, OK. Never mind then... :D :wink:

v0od0o 07-06-2004 11:34 AM

now all we need is to rename the thread :D

Jabba 07-06-2004 11:34 AM

Glad I didnt stick my neck out too far about the countach....this would have made a good quiz...how many Lamborghins were connected with actual bulls.

Jabba 07-06-2004 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by v0od0o
now all we need is to rename the thread :D

And move it to planet Lamborghini.

stradale 07-06-2004 11:38 AM

LOL, sounds good. There are already too many threads on the Ferrari 360 successor. I'd be amazed if someone would miss this one after it has been beamed up to planet Lamborghini... :D

v0od0o 07-06-2004 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by stradale
I'd be amazed if someone would miss this one after it has been beamed up to planet Lamborghini... :D

yeah but I wouldn't like to do that to the thread author, out of respect.
Jabba can we copy threads ? :lol:

Jabba 07-06-2004 11:46 AM

A bit messy.

v0od0o 07-06-2004 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabba
this would have made a good quiz...how many Lamborghins were connected with actual bulls.

Exactly what I was thinking of, maybe we can think of something to the same tune, quizes about car names instead of the usual identify the picture thing

T-Bird 07-06-2004 02:15 PM

I thought Murcielago meant "bat"

Jabba 07-06-2004 02:17 PM

It does in Spanish but its also the name of a legendary Italian fighting bull.

v0od0o 07-06-2004 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabba
It does in Spanish but its also the name of a legendary Italian fighting bull.

hmmm are you sure ? Altavista refuses to translate murcielago and gives the spanish word "palo" for a bat :roll:

Jabba 07-06-2004 02:29 PM

The name translates as “bat” in Spanish, and it’s pronounced “mercy-AY-lah-go.” Unless you’re Castillian, that is, where you add a lisp, and it becomes “mirthy-AY-lah-go.” And indeed, the new two-seater actually honors the bull of that name which 122 years ago defied the best matador of Barcelona, surviving a score of sword strikes and living to a ripe old age making other brave bulls. Either interpretation is appropriate. A raging bull is the symbol of the Lamborghini brand, but the Murcielago moves like a bat out of hell.

Taken from here :

http://www.bullz-eye.com/carreviews/...amborghini.htm

I get the feeling we have been through all this before.

dropot2 07-06-2004 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by v0od0o
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabba
It does in Spanish but its also the name of a legendary Italian fighting bull.

hmmm are you sure ? Altavista refuses to translate murcielago and gives the spanish word "palo" for a bat :roll:

Well, perhaps I can help you in this translation as Spanish is my second language. I confirm that in Spanish, as Jabba has said, "bat" is "murcielago".
"Palo" in spanish means "stick".
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heyloo 07-06-2004 10:48 PM

"lol how this a post about ferrari turn into a post about lamborghini so fast???"

I thought the same thing!! :-P I was just about to 'wow' at the new name, and as I scrolled down, I sensed the change of topic to Lambos...lol

Jabba 07-07-2004 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dropot2
Quote:

Originally Posted by v0od0o
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabba
It does in Spanish but its also the name of a legendary Italian fighting bull.

hmmm are you sure ? Altavista refuses to translate murcielago and gives the spanish word "palo" for a bat :roll:

Well, perhaps I can help you in this translation as Spanish is my second language. I confirm that in Spanish, as Jabba has said, "bat" is "murcielago".
"Palo" in spanish means "stick".

Thanks for the confirmation...much appreciated. 8) 8) 8)

dropot2 07-07-2004 05:30 AM

Happy to be useful :wink: (I don't think so, but if you need some translation in Catalan I could help you...but I don't believe it'll be needed. I think that dani_d_mas and me are the only rare people who speak this language! LOL)
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LotusGT1 07-07-2004 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stradale
^^^ Lamborghini has used names of famous fighting bulls or the names of their races far more than once.
The Miura, for instance, is named after Don Eduardo Miura, who was a famous breeder.
Diablo might also mean devil, but "the name 'Diablo' was in fact taken from a ferocious bull raised by the Duke of Veragua in the 19th century. It fought an epic battle with 'El Chicorro' in Madrid on July 11th 1869, this animal became legendary and its well-known history and its name were aggressive enough to be used for a Lamborghini." (quote from http://www.lambocars.com)
I have been searching for the explanation of the names Islero, Marzal, Espada, Jarama (obviously also the name of a Spanish track) and Urraco, but I lent the book in which it's probably all explained to my father at the moment. My other books on Lamborghini don't give much information. :(

EDIT: Jabba, Murciélago is also the name of a famous and courageous bull. It impressed everyone so much that it was left alive after the fight instead of the usual putting to death.

Islero

In today’s bull ring, as with gladiators in the ancient Roman Colosseum, the bull has at least a tiny chance to win, survive and live to a very happy old age.

Think back to how the great bullfighter Manolete (Manuel Rodriquez Sanchez) was gored and killed by the bull Islero on August 28, 1947. Islero’s victory and fame – his name yet remembered more than half a century later in the Hispanic world – earned him a life at stud to produce more of Andalusia’s (named for the Vandals who settled southern Spain) fierce Miura bulls.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=6700


Jamara

A new 2+2 took the stand at Geneva in 1970, it was the first Jarama (pronounced Yarama). Named after the Spanish district well known for breeding famous fighting bulls, this car was intended to remind the world that Lamborghini was still present, strong, and fighting like mad in a bullish sort of way.

http://www.blaise27.demon.co.uk/lamb...ily/jarama.htm


Espada

The new car, the Espada, named after the sword used by the matador in the famous sport of bull fighting, debuted next to the Islero. Unfortunately for the Islero, the Espada stole the show. It was a bold statement for Lamborghini to enter an untapped market. It was risky at best but that risk paid off. The low-slung four passenger sports car was a great success. It still holds the record of being the most highly produced Lamborghini ever.

http://www.blaise27.demon.co.uk/lamb...ily/espada.htm


Urraco

The Lamborghini P250 Urraco (pronounced "oo-RAH-koh"), meaning "little bull," was named for the fighting bull which killed the toreadore Manolete. This car was introduced to the public in 1970 at the Turin auto show, though it wouldn't become available to the public until 1973.

http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/Urraco/


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Jabba 07-07-2004 06:07 AM

Thats interesting information indeed. Any more information on "countach" LotusGT1 ?

adlinyusman 07-07-2004 10:44 AM

A ferrari thread where we only talked about ferrari for no more then 3 posts.
lol.

besides it's called the 430 Monza.

the fiorano tag is reserved for sports packages offered by the carrozerria. The 575 replacement, which will source it's engine from the 612 Scaglietti powerplant will be known tentatively as the 600 Mugello. My dealer told me this, so i could be wrong, but i have heard a few other dealers mention the same thing.

bmagni 07-07-2004 03:28 PM

Gallardo, is the second name of a bull breeder

stradale 07-08-2004 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabba
Thats interesting information indeed. Any more information on "countach" LotusGT1 ?

I think I had that one covered in the previous page... :wink:

Jabba 07-08-2004 08:18 AM

Yep but I thought you said that it might be only a "legend" that someone shouted out countach when the car was rolled out.

stradale 07-08-2004 08:33 AM

Oh, I thought you had forgotten that there was no link to bulls with the name Countach. My bad.

It is a legend though. No one knows where the name was thought up for real. Maybe it went like this, maybe it didn't. Other versions of the story say that it was Nuccio Bertone tha exclaimed "Countach" when he saw it, others claim it was what the audience murmured when it was unveiled. The last version seems highly unlikely to me though. The car already had the name Countach on it when it was unveiled and I can't imagine that the whole crowd consisted of people that speak the accent of the Piedmontese region.

garybb 07-08-2004 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tigerx
lol how this a post about ferrari turn into a post about lamborghini so fast???

there was a jabbavasion and that was the end of that :P

Jabba 07-08-2004 08:48 AM

I just go with the flow.


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