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TVR_Fan 07-02-2004 08:47 PM

Info on the New Ferrari 430 Monza!
 
Ferrari is to replace its 'entry-level' 360 Modena with this: the 430 Monza. Ferrari is said to have registered the numbers '430' as a trademark, indicating that the company's 4.2-litre V8 engine could be enlarged for this new model to 4.3 litres; an output of 450bhp is estimated. This engine will remain mid-mounted.

Its front and rear-end Pininfarina-penned styling, with vertically-stacked headlights and redesigned air intakes, is heavily influenced by that of the Enzo Ferrari: more angular, and more aggressive in its stance. Like the Enzo, the 430 could feature an adjustable rear spoiler. It is expected to be formally unveiled early next year, possibly at the Detroit Motor Show in January, with sales following in summer 2005. A convertible version and a lightweight, stripped-out Challenge Stradale model are predicted to follow in 2006.

Images-

http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/s...0-Monza-01.jpg
http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/s...0-Monza-02.jpg
http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/s...0-Monza-04.jpg
http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/s...0-Monza-08.jpg

bmagni 07-02-2004 09:00 PM

intresting, and more intresting the CS version !!! ferrari is doing a great job...

PATo355 07-02-2004 09:01 PM

Very niuce pics , this looks like the real thing , look at the back enzo styled lights , but the front does not seem to changed , maybe its still a mule , but the lights arent from the 360 , and 450 seems not that much to compete with the gallardo

SFDMALEX 07-02-2004 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PATo355
Very niuce pics , this looks like the real thing , look at the back enzo styled lights , but the front does not seem to changed , maybe its still a mule , but the lights arent from the 360 , and 450 seems not that much to compete with the gallardo

450 is not much?

The CS already beats the Gallardo and its 75bhp short. Im sure that being 50bhp short wont make that much of a difference.

PATo355 07-02-2004 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SFDMALEX
Quote:

Originally Posted by PATo355
Very niuce pics , this looks like the real thing , look at the back enzo styled lights , but the front does not seem to changed , maybe its still a mule , but the lights arent from the 360 , and 450 seems not that much to compete with the gallardo

450 is not much?

The CS already beats the Gallardo and its 75bhp short. Im sure that being 50bhp short wont make that much of a difference.

Yes but the CS is a stripped car , while the Murcielago is a car with all comodities

sikx5 07-02-2004 09:19 PM

^^^ dude isnt it the 430.


The car seems a lot different from the pictures, the front lights seem to be long and elongated from the pics and also the rear lights are smililar to that of the enzo too....

he7lius 07-02-2004 09:56 PM

It already looks very very good. :D :D

SFDMALEX 07-02-2004 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PATo355
Quote:

Originally Posted by SFDMALEX
Quote:

Originally Posted by PATo355
Very niuce pics , this looks like the real thing , look at the back enzo styled lights , but the front does not seem to changed , maybe its still a mule , but the lights arent from the 360 , and 450 seems not that much to compete with the gallardo

450 is not much?

The CS already beats the Gallardo and its 75bhp short. Im sure that being 50bhp short wont make that much of a difference.

Yes but the CS is a stripped car , while the Murcielago is a car with all comodities

I think you mean Galardo. :wink:

Horsepower figures arent everything. An Elise will take on 70% of the cars on a regular trackday.

360Cs has more power then the GT3 aswel but they are still evenly matched :wink:

gdc 07-03-2004 09:09 AM

430 = 360 melted with enzo?? :shock:

The rear is obviously enzo-like....

But look at the shape of the front light~

It seems more slim than current 360~

And 4.3L 450 bhp...

Ferrari must feel the big pressure after Lambo launched the Galardo!!!

callen 07-03-2004 09:47 AM

im waiting for the official press photos because i dont think ferrari would just seemingly graft the back end of an enzo onto a 360, cause this is what this looks like. not very original, but if they do it pinifarina will get it right, ferrari and its designers always do! 8)

Fleischmann 07-03-2004 09:55 AM

Nice, nice, nice :D Still waiting for some pics without the "cellotape" on in order to reaveal all the details. 450 won't exactly put it onto the Gallardo territory, but the CS will definatelly do just that and more.

Ford Capri 2.8i 07-03-2004 10:25 AM

I guess that the substitute of the 360 is going to be a little trim of the 360....as the 360 is actually for me a little trim of the 355 as well

I think that the engine is going to be biggened a bit, and maintaining the same type of engine, updating the software of the engine as much as they can, and getting a car which must have about 500 in order to compete against the lambo gallardo, the porshe 911 Turbo, GT2, GT3.......with 2 types of gearboxes.....and a bit improvement of everything...suspension, brakes......

On the other hand....the car looks good(as every compact ferrari for me), and it resembles a bit the Enzo actually

SFDMALEX 07-03-2004 10:41 AM

Why does everyone have this idea that you need the same amount of horsepower as the opposition in order to compete?

And this isnt the econo or sedan industry. The galardo had ZERO impact on Ferrari sales probably. People who buy Ferrari dont care if its a second faster or slower then some lambo. Anyway what lambo are we talking about? Its more appropriate to say Ferrari Vs. Audi.

heyloo 07-03-2004 10:58 AM

Looks pretty nice....to me it looks like it has somewhat of a combination of 360 and Enzo...*shrug*

SPEED_DEMON82 07-03-2004 11:17 AM

Yeah right now it looks pretty much a cross between an Enzo Ferrari and a 360.....but lets wait for the press pics to be out ....they'll give us a clear idea of what it will look like
Cant wait any longer now!!!

fabro_s 07-03-2004 01:59 PM

Looks like a C6 Corvette, a Gallardo and like an Enzo from the back, although I know it was a spy picture so you cant tell very well what it will look like, so lets wait and see

TVR_Fan 07-03-2004 09:14 PM

The thing with Spyshots and when cars on being tested, you do not see the real car under the hiding stuff.

mrzonda 07-03-2004 09:24 PM

When I first heard about the 430, the impression I got was that it was an evolution of the 360, like the 575 is of the 550. Does anyone know if this is an evolution, or a replacement?

SPAD 07-03-2004 11:29 PM

I thnk this is more of and evolution.it looks verry much like the 360.

Why the hell do people keep saying that the 430 will not be as good as a gellardo?I think ferrari will make sure it will.They already know what they are up against.The car may have a bit less hp but accelreration can be impoved by the fine tuning of the suspention and the weight of the car.

chipanggo 07-05-2004 02:39 AM

yup. i think it's an evolution too. the resemblance to the current 360 is pretty obvious.

360modena 07-05-2004 01:02 PM

Hum I feel worry about the final design of the 430 because I don't really like
last release like 612 scal. Just hope symphony will be the same as 360.
So may be it will just be an evolution and a360 GTC like for road. We have to
wait 2005 :wink:

MIHALS 07-05-2004 01:57 PM

Found better :wink: Ferrari 400 Modena
http://img57.photobucket.com/albums/...new_modena.jpg

MIHALS 07-05-2004 02:02 PM

and how about these? F430 Modena
http://img57.photobucket.com/albums/...30-modena4.jpg
http://img57.photobucket.com/albums/...30-modena5.jpg

rachaderua 07-05-2004 02:34 PM

very good one..the fron enzo inspired lights seems to be very good and placed. I would like to see the interior, steeringwheel and pedals... it might be awesome :D

HeilSvenska 07-05-2004 04:31 PM

Ehh...Ferrari should have kept the name Monza for a whole new car.

ae86_16v 07-06-2004 10:05 AM

It is a Lamborghini Gallardo, not galardo or gellardo.

Back to subject, looks good. Kind of like a mini-Enzo.

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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska
Ehh...Ferrari should have kept the name Monza for a whole new car.

It is a whole new car. This car replaces the 360 Modena. At first they were merely planning on a mid-life upgrade/facelift. I guess they decided to go all out and just finish it.

blinkmeat 07-07-2004 06:15 PM

looks awesome


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