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SPEEDKILLAR 06-27-2004 02:52 PM

Variable turbo's on BMW
 
The new 535d applies turbo's with two different functions, with this new technology it has the same power as BMW's 4.0l V8.

If anybody needs more info, I'll translate it for you guys.


http://www.autoweek.nl/newsdisp.php?cache=no&ID=m2578




http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/5839.jpg


http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/5835.jpg



BTW, the break version looks crappy :?

bmagni 06-27-2004 02:55 PM

wow, really cool... a diesel with the same power as a 4 litre

SPEEDKILLAR 06-27-2004 02:58 PM

Yep, quite amazing, the diesel engines are getting stronger, better, faster and more fuel efficient, and do keep in my mind diesel fuel is cheaper.
If it were only for higher revs and better sound :(

Sachmo12345 06-27-2004 02:59 PM

RIVETING

SPEEDKILLAR 06-27-2004 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sachmo12345
RIVETING

???

bmagni 06-27-2004 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR
Yep, quite amazing, the diesel engines are getting stronger, better, faster and more fuel efficient, and do keep in my mind diesel fuel is cheaper.
If it were only for higher revs and better sound :(

yup, anyway the nafta producers dont want and wont let diesel get that much market, basically on countries that dont use diesel cars that much e.g. US, theyre restarting to use diesel cars but i dont think theyre getting too far

schnell318 06-27-2004 04:54 PM

I can´t wait till that 535d comes out...guess we´ll have to wait just a couple more months.

graywolf624 06-27-2004 05:18 PM

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yup, anyway the nafta producers dont want and wont let diesel get that much market, basically on countries that dont use diesel cars that much e.g. US, theyre restarting to use diesel cars but i dont think theyre getting too far
Incorrect. GM produced a number of diesel cars that were horrible in the late 70s early 80s. As such no americans want to buy them.. (Not just gms fault cause the golf and beatle tdi also suck).

In terms of emissions they are getting hit by the govt as not allowed to be used by govt vehicles for their higher emissions for things that matter(none of that global warming bs, but instead acid rain) (especially in america where the diesel fuel isnt as clean due to refinements focusing more on gasoline and sulfur deposits being higher). However, that has nothing realy to do with the cars consumers buy.

bmagni 06-27-2004 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by graywolf624
Quote:

yup, anyway the nafta producers dont want and wont let diesel get that much market, basically on countries that dont use diesel cars that much e.g. US, theyre restarting to use diesel cars but i dont think theyre getting too far
Incorrect. GM produced a number of diesel cars that were horrible in the late 70s early 80s. As such no americans want to buy them.. (Not just gms fault cause the golf and beatle tdi also suck).

In terms of emissions they are getting hit by the govt as not allowed to be used by govt vehicles for their higher emissions for things that matter(none of that global warming bs, but instead acid rain) (especially in america where the diesel fuel isnt as clean due to refinements focusing more on gasoline and sulfur deposits being higher). However, that has nothing realy to do with the cars consumers buy.

but doesnt the govt isnt intrested in petroleum/nafta ?
its the same for me

X-ale 06-27-2004 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR
Yep, quite amazing, the diesel engines are getting stronger, better, faster and more fuel efficient, and do keep in my mind diesel fuel is cheaper.
If it were only for higher revs and better sound :(

A Diesel rumbles more than a petrol. the sound is mainly the exhaust and it's tip. As for reving...wtf...i mean... i'd prefer having the double of acceleration than reving till 10000RPM. Thats like this: it'll have twice the torque and go till 5000 = lower RPM to reach peak torque = hellafastio, coolio. If ya still understanding, this means all the opposite of what you thought, pendejo...

graywolf624 06-27-2004 06:47 PM

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but doesnt the govt isnt intrested in petroleum/nafta ?
its the same for me
say that again? I dont have a clue what you just said.

gigdy 06-27-2004 07:36 PM

It looks like some weird turbo cluster fuck

X-ale 06-27-2004 09:04 PM

Anyway, this is a variable pression contraption right... so it means it you won't feel it kicking in that much after all the lag right? Then it builds up as you go... That has absolutly nothing to do with more power and after all that added tubing and/or a ALS ya get the same weight as a supercharger that does not lag....c'mon ppl, use your head other to nod at something new but no better.

ahmedgiyab 06-28-2004 02:58 AM

I think I posted this topic sometimes ago.... :wink:

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/show...highlight=535d

It has 272Bhp but the same torque as the 740d....560Nm...may coz of the 6cylinder

engine.... :roll:

SPEEDKILLAR 06-28-2004 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
I think I posted this topic sometimes ago.... :wink:

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/show...highlight=535d

It has 272Bhp but the same torque as the 740d....560Nm...may coz of the 6cylinder

engine.... :roll:

Damn you ahmedgiyab :x :x :x


j/k :wink:

ahmedgiyab 06-30-2004 06:14 PM

No problemo.... :lol:

danroz 06-30-2004 07:49 PM

btw about the dual turbo, it sounds exactly like the Twin turbo setup on the fd RX-7's

danroz 06-30-2004 07:51 PM

btw about the dual turbo, it sounds exactly like the Twin turbo setup on the fd RX-7's

espen 07-01-2004 04:57 AM

Yes, there are similarities, but this is a first (but certainly first of many) on a diesel engine. Due to the high boost levels and efficciency of a diesel engine (eg. very little exhaust gas at low rpm), engineering a turbo setup that is able to provide both early boost and supply high end power is a major challenge.

This setup uses diferent size turbos and a strategy for managing the boost by manipulating the flow of exhaust gas and intake air. As such, the boost level is higher than on the otherwise pretty much identical 530d single turbo engine all the way from idle to redline, with huge torque (rumorde to pass 500Nm at 1400 rpm!)and an exeptionally wide powerband. Boost level is rumored to be above 1.5 bar.

All this power from a smooth running economy engine. Almost makes you forget it'll do 100km/h in 6.5s :D


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