So I just went for a ride in the R35 GT-R (jesusmobile)...
Yes, I did in fact just had a first hand experience with the Jesusmobile. Flat out acceleration and hard cornering.
Power: First impression...the acceleration is mind-blowing, spun all four on cold tires. The way this thing goes fast is kinda weird. It accelerates just as hard in every gear till 4th when we got off it because we were on a public road. Its just seamless, the shifts feel like little blips that just make the car go faster. It has no lag, it almost doesn't feel like a turbo car in any gear and it pulls ridiculously hard from very low RPM's. If it weighs 3800 pounds, then it hides it damn well. Its, dare I say it?, physics defying. The last time I felt acceleration like that was on an Ariel Atom 2, the supercharged one. The speed felt very similar, but while the Ariel felt like free energy was pushing it along, the GT-R felt like there was a giant invisible hand pushing it from behind. Like big big power pushing something with mass. Transmission: Seamless, as good as they say. Its just so fast and the downshifts are blipped perfectly. Imagine thinking about changing gear and being on the next gear already. It almost feels like you are accelerating again before the needle gets down RPM on the next gear up. On sport, it was a big jerky on the starts from dead stop, but in confort it was just brilliant. Like steptronic smooth for starts. Handing: WTF? The ride is compliant, maybe a little bit stiff at times, but very confortable. I noticed a tiny bit of lean when entering corners, but once settled it stood flat all the way through. The tires, needless to say, are very very sticky. I could stick my nails into them when completely cold.. Set the suspension to R and wow, it stiffened up, roll was gone, it felt overall more responsive. Now here's the area of debate...can a 3900lb car really do what people say it does? My answer to that is that the weight seems to dissapear. You know its there, you can feel it on turn in, but then it discipates and never comes back. Theres a combination of mechanical grip and technobox grip that I've never really felt before. We were nowhere near the limits of the cornering, but it was SO poised and in control when getting pushed around that I could feel you could never slide on the street. Its one of those cars that you need a track to have any sort of sense of where the limits are. Brakes were great, interior was bearable. The seats held you in nice and snug, they are nice without being buckets. The Exhaust note wasnt there, but I hear it sounds like an F1 shrill with some exhausts. The owner of the dealer was telling me that his frined showed up the day before in his GTR with exhaust and it sounded amazing. Keep in mind this guy has driven just about everything, he owns an exotics dealership. Before we went for a ride he said he knew it was good but it was too expensive for a car like that. After we got back, before he even got out of the car he said "Ok, I'm going to buy one, right now." We went inside, he told his people there to find him one and buy it right that second. There was one for sale in Georgia for $95k and he said "no problem, call him right now" so we called the dude, but it was sold already :( So to all the non-believers, RC and company. While its definitely not the fastest car in the world, it is definitely effin good and VERY VERY fast. Some iphone pics.. http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k...f/IMG_0309.jpg http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k...f/IMG_0314.jpg http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k...f/IMG_0315.jpg http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k...f/IMG_0311.jpg http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k...f/IMG_0312.jpg |
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This "hides" the weight - until the tyres go off, then the car will slow down as the computers are setup to keep the car at the very limit of adhesion/grip - and this grip-life-span is what the weight will affect - no getting away from this fact. Quote:
The laws of physics are rigid and unforgiving - if you have the weight present, you have to deal with the kinetic energy you have stored up each time you try change direction/slow/accelerate - and the tyre takes the "heat" (literally) for doing this job ;) The novelty of tyres/brakes/parts will get old vey quickly for anyone except the wealthy trying to live with car if you ever hope to exploit the potential. Which is pretty much what we have said since last year. Glad you enjoyed the car, sure its fast, but a heavy fast car is expensive to keep fast. I men, what good and how much fun is a 1 lap time-attack car ;) |
:cool2: nice review :thumbup:
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Thanks for sharing dude. Nice experience !! :-)
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Excellent review. :thumbup:
So clear I felt like I was in the car :-D |
Thanks for sharing RCSTI. Felt like I was reading one of the first non-biased, honest opinions of this car.
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so does this make you the first mw member to get a ride in the r35? if so congrats, and good job on the review :thumbup:
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Great review! Thanks :thumbup: |
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I read that somewhere,will try to find the link again. |
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And i think the gtr is awesome daily driver and road course and whit mods a fun track car. Maby fitting tires whit a higher tread wear rating is the option? :-):thumbup: |
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I am not interested in CHANGING anyone's mind, just DISCUSSING. I dont GIVE A CRAP if you listen - because you not listening doesnt make me incorrect, it just makes you less informed ;) Maybe all you want is a series of threads where all you read is people agreeing blindly and stroking each others egos and back slapping etc. Well, sorry to say, this is not the "Yes Man Forum" - this is the "Motor World Forum". Live with it. :) |
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I bet the day the magazines stop printing the hero-worsjip articles because "the next newest thing" has come along, the fanboise will call the magazines liars and haters ;) Tell you what, when I get to drive the R35 I will report back and tell you what it feels like - but that still wont change the reality of what it is and how it achieves it. I find it amusing that you all mistake my objective observations as hate ;) This is quite far from the thruth - I am the consumate "car fan" and have drivena nd enjoyed a fair variety on the street and the track - I guess being objective is most often taken t omean "ahte" when you dont dance to the fans-tunes. |
The novelty of tyres/brakes/parts will get old vey quickly for anyone except the wealthy trying to live with car if you ever hope to exploit the potential - i dont think this is very objective because you can say it about all cars not only R35 GT-R.
Tell you what, when I get to drive the R35 I will report back and tell you what it feels like - but that still wont change the reality of what it is and how it achieves it. I will wait for your report :) |
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Unlike many other vehicles that are simply lighter to reduce the stress and strain on the brakes, tyres and suspenion... Like the GT3 as an example - the consumate trackday weapon ;) Quote:
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ZZzzz... Zzzz... Next forum.
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This is your best effort at participating in a discussion forum? Your loss.. ;) LOL I will be sure to post up my R35 fun and games in a format that you will be sure to ignore... |
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Actually, that is very objective - because the GT-R is relyingon the electro-gizmos to meter out and manage the use of the available mechanical grip for you - so it's important to know and understand this in the context of the available performance. (Think about Ferrari ;-))they are doing the same as GT-R, and in the true i just understand that GT-R maybe isnt so fun to drive because electro-gizmos ruins Ferrari, so if something can ruin Ferrari than it can ruin enything:crying:
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If computer can't save you.....most likely not, you won't be able to save the car once it goes beyond the limit.
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In the F-Car your tyres and brakes will cook off due to ungodly speeds reached while lapping.. the R35 will cook off the brkaes and tyres because they are being over taxed by the excess weight. All that kinetic energy has to go somewhere.... |
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But seriously, I didn't want this thread to turn into the same old shit. The car felt extremely solid and stable at speed. What else can I tell you all about it, I wish someone would find some other angle to talk about other than the same thing over and over. I'm sure I'll get a ride in a ZR1 sooner than later... We took a Carrera S (997) out for a spin too. What an amazing daily driver...just perfect. |
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Damn, 95k is alot of markup for a mass production car.
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Yeah, I dont get that either. It's part of life... You simply cant agree with everyone.
We know it's heavy though, and we know the tires will take all the heat, and that its a one lap wonder. We know all that, im just trying to give you all a more organic review.. So we can discuss the things that it does well and the things it doesnt. I dont see why every time the GT-R comes up, we have to start talking about fanboys and weight and sticky tires and computer gizmos. I think it's kinda sad that people get caught up on those things and don't realize, for example, the achievement that is its transmission and the engine that nissan fit into that car. If we didnt get caught up in this same crap then we might know other things about it.. |
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The result? False and exagerate information promogates to all corners. ;) This way all the information is exposed, and readers can make up their own minds. :) |
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I'm not saying lets all agree and lets not "interact" (I dont know who you're quoting with that btw) but lets talk about other things perhaps? As far as false and exaggerate information, you know I wouldn't agree with someone for the sake of agreeing, but rather because something makes technical sense and its a fact-backed statement. The information you want to expose, HAS been exposed several times. Almost seems like you're on a crusade to expose it on every single thread about anything remotely linked to the gtr. I dont think you like the car and being the opinionated person you are (nothing wrong with that) you cant allow the discussion to turn into anything else. It has been established that this is not the greatest car ever made. NO one in this thread is saying it is anything other than what it is. Everyone in this thread should already know that the car has its flaws. Just let it go, if its so heavy and so bad then there should be some really good factors making up for the shortcomings in order for it to perform the way it does. Like I said, there are many other angles to look at that youre clearly ignoring in light of the stuff you usually point out. Frankly I'm not even interested in discussing this car anymore, its pathetic that this forum cant get past the same fkin issue. Over and over again. I know you dont like misinformed people, aka fanbois who love the car but dont know why. I understand where you come from, but you cant save everyone.. |
All hail the mighty R35. :)
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I just came back to the US 2 weeks ago and on the airport I saw some magazines with the Vette the 911 and some had the F430 being compared along with the GTR. All of those reviews placed the GTR in first place. I read through them and none mentioned that after testing the GTR on the track they felt it was going to let go. I am not convinced yet that it is a 1-time marvel around tracks. I guess we will have to see when and if they are used in races like LeMans or those Japanese reviews.
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and lol @ RWD light |
Thank you 04RCSTI
Great review. Hope I'll somehow have a chance to drive one of these :-D |
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I didn't know they made ones with left-hand drive.. (everything on the left side) ... well now i know, lol...
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