Hateful CGT
 

I read in a recent article in Car magazine about them driving a CGT around Germany. After reading the article, they said that it isn't the best car out there for everyday driving..WELL NO SHIT!!! I just was wondering if anyone read this article and thought it was kinda stupid that these guys considered using a CGT as a car for every day.

well Jeremy said the same thing on Top Gear he said if you push it too far it will turn around and bite you in the ass so to speak. I'm sure that's what they mean cause i would drive an SLR and even an Enzo every fuckin day even in the rain not the snow cause that would be suicide in Chicago winters.

I didn't read the artcle and no idea what their basic point for the test was, but well, probably if you would put a CGT into everyday's world and pin it against wonderull and "easy" allrounder like Audi RS6 or such, it could end up like that, but in that case they missed totally the point about the CGT...

....well, the real problem is: it IS useable as a daily driver, so i can´t see their point... :?

What they did was to travel 873 miles in only two days in the Carrera GT !!
Be serious, even after half that travel in a Rolls i would be tired :|

If a daily drive is a car that can make you feel nice and fresh after 437 miles everyday then there musn't be a lot of daily drives :lol:

I don´t think that was a real world test cause no one is going to travel that distance in such a short period of time... of course they would have been less tired if they had used another car but that doesn´t say the CGT isn´t useable as a daily driver.

I just found it to be a bad article on a great car

I'd really like to drive the GT, a car with such a little clutch, and practically no flywheel mass. must be a great track day car.

driving the single seat race car that i built, the car uses a motorcycle engine geared for insane acceleration, and you can't launch slowly in that car, the clutch is either engaged or open, there's no slipping of the clutch to modulate the launch. tried driving behind a chase car at a constant slow speed, and lot's of stops, it's near impossible to do without stalling, and lurching followed by hard braking.

i wonder if the GT is similar in stop-go traffic with it's racing clutch, and really light fly wheel assembly? i just want to drive one. :wink:

in the Road and Track article about 1000 miles in an Enzo... there was little other then praise of the car... but, i suppose the Enzo is a more compy ride lol. id cirtainly love to be able to use such cars everyday 8) :wink: :shock: :o

Well... Enzo has TC/F1 Gearbox/Adjustable Supsension Height, and Ferrari designed it for 40-60 years old "major" customers -- no matter why it can be a good daily/long distance drive.

Daily driver for some is not "daily driver" from the factories perspective.

Many of these cars will break down after repeated exposure to extreme traffic conditions.

By extreme traffic conditions, I mean bumper to bumper 110 degree heat, stop and go for 30 or 40 miles, with the car never reaching more than 25 miles per hour - and idling for a long time.

Many "sever duty" purpose built cars, such as taxius, police cars and limosines even have to have foreshortened maintenance periods to change over worked oil, filters and coolant fluids etc.

Ironically, hours of grid-lock traffic is sometimes harder on a car than "track driving and racing" - as before, during and after a race event, the car will be pampered with no-costs spared continued maintenance - while "daily drivers" tend to be used and abused and drivers simply jump in and go.

With this in mind - very few, if any true supercars could stand up to this kind of automotive abuse without suffering greatly.

And of course - these cars are not made for this - and it would be rare that such a car owner did not have a fleet of luxo-sedans for daily duty... ;)

hahaha. :lol:

who would want to use a supercar for a daily driver?

Me. :lol: :lol:

Carrera GT is not a dailly car for going to the supermarket, school, college. It was made to the race track or a good highway, not for a garage or parking lots. Of course you can drive it clearly in the streets, but the proper place to it is a good closed circuit.

Some magazine journalists are sometimes as stupid as their articles.

ME 2! :lol: :lol:

I read the article, and quite frankly it's because of articles like that that i only buy 1-2 copies of CAR magazine a year whereas i dont miss a copy of Evo. The guy said the CGT was loud and had stiff suspension. For fucks sake, what the hell is wrong with these people? Then again, he looks like a truck driver (fatass) so i dont know what he's doing testing supercars :D

Wasn't the reason they decieded it wasn't a good daily driver was basically down to the clutch? I seem to remember it was. I think there's been a lot of complaints about the clutch when setting off from standstill but I think you'd probably get used to it after a while. I'm sure it would be ok as a daily driver as far as supercars go

He had a go at the clutch too. But his main complaints were thinly padded seats, loud cabin noise and a hard ride. I mean, come on...


In a way, i agree with you that the CGT is more usable than say, an F40. But it's still far from an ideal everyday car, imo. Also, where would you be able to park it without fearing for someone damaging it?

ah sorry, i was going from memory. But how do you expect performance like the CGT has without hvaing lightweight (and therefore thinnly padded) and firm suspension?? As for loud cabin noise... i'm not sure whether he was referring to air, tyre or engine, but if its engine noise he needs to be shot :P

hehe exactly, I don't know why they even bother saying whether you can use high end supercars everyday or not because 99% of them will never be used everyday and even if they are, its a supercar, practicality wont be a factor for almost all buyers

How does he expect all these things? Simple, the man is a retard :lol:

Dont believe me? Here's some conclusive evidence:

- the twat has a go at the CGT's ground clearance
- he says he would prefer a paddleshift box
- he says it has a 'competent chassis', as if he pushed it to the limit let alone was capable of handling 50% of the car's power.


I dont understand how this guy can be an automotive journalist let alone one entrusted with driving a car such as the CGT. Hell, i'd do it, and do it for free! ;)



I'll try to scan the article and post it up, depends on whether i can do it at work without anyone really catching on ;)

That clutch is so small and compact, that when they designed it they put a patent on it. Could you imagine stop and go driving with that thing? I wish I could! :wink:

Looks like i don't need to scan it ;)


http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10830

all porsches are everyday drivers, thats what seperates them from lambos and ferraris...and they still kick ass next to them...

He did compliment the steering for being extremely accurate & said that the car was very composed at high speeds. The engine, traction control systems, and the chassis.

He criticised (the clearance or lack of) and complained that it made climbing even minute kerbs a problem, the aluminum bit on the dashboard which caused distracting reflections and also didn't feel the interior was much. All features which are needed to be easy to use for a car to be considered a daily driver. He also felt the sat nav was difficult to use. The clutch copped some bad comments, but from what I've read by other journos, it is true.

The scariest , comment was how the rotors were crap (due to it being wet) and stopping the car from high speeds on the autobahn was difficult. I've heard this many times about carbon/ceramic brakes.

What sort of vehicle do you have, s4racer? Something similar to the Westfield 'busa or blackbird engined?

Very true, it is hard to find a car (probably impossible) that is both at home on the track and on public roads. The journo mentioned that Germany's high speed highways were probably one of the few places in the world where the car can be 'unleashed', somewhat. In traffic it would be horrible and a clutchless manual would be better.

lol :o