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MidEngine4Life 06-25-2007 09:37 PM

1988 Pontiac Fiero GT
 
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1354/prooffh5.th.jpg
Here she is. My second Fiero GT. This one is an 88. I still have the Scion for long trips and work of course, this is my project car. Shes pretty beat up cosmetically, but that should be fixed within a short time. She runs fantastic!
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/6...viewoo0.th.jpg http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1...0002oc6.th.jpg http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3...5705fe1.th.jpg http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1...7343ah9.th.jpg
My goal is to have her looking something like this by the end of the year.
http://www.fierodriver.com/fiero_images01/buff2.jpg

dutchmasterflex 06-26-2007 10:58 AM

Nice, she looks good! How's the engine/transmission?

MidEngine4Life 08-14-2007 06:01 PM

Everything is in great working order. We just fitted a new exhaust system with much classier looking chrome tips. I also rep[ainted the engine vents and tried to touch up the warn out tailight lenses. I did it too fast so there are some flaws but its an easy fix.
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3...int2wi1.th.jpg
She looks really good wet, I cant wait to get her painted.
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2533/wet1qb1.th.jpg http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6648/wet2ts5.th.jpg

Zot09 08-15-2007 12:04 AM

Congrats on your second Fiero! Hope you have many fun/safe miles with her.

One of my friends back home recently bought himself a Fiero as well, so I'm pretty excited to get a ride in it once I go back in about a month.

MidEngine4Life 08-27-2007 10:06 PM

I hope he got a GT ;)

I took a video today. Now you know what it sounds like.

ARMAN 08-28-2007 04:05 AM

Very nice sound :good:

philip 08-28-2007 10:17 AM

Always a cool car. Now very rare.

cooperluke 08-28-2007 10:51 AM

The front resembles a 355! :D

Mr.Vercetti 08-28-2007 12:06 PM

Whats the difference with your yellow onw?.. :oops:

Congrats, and many safe km I wish you man.

yg60m 08-28-2007 03:18 PM

I like it and fortunatly you didn't transform it in a Ferrari :wink:

MidEngine4Life 09-18-2007 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Vercetti
Whats the difference with your yellow onw?.. :oops:

Congrats, and many safe km I wish you man.

My yellow car a lot of aftermarket engine and suspension mods, custom rims and tires, custom engine side scoops, custom yellow paint job, custom leather interior and stereo, 4spd manual, etc.

My new car is the 88, it came with all the best stuff, an all new Fiero suspension (the previous models shared a chevette suspension) better brake system, 5spd manual, and better reliability. My new car its pretty much totally stock except I took the wing off and we put a new exhaust system on it.

You can find out more about the Fiero at http://www.myspace.com/fierofoto
The page was huge and had a lot of friends, but was removed by myspace because one person complained about copyright infringment so this is the new and improved site.

Alot of people like to criticize the Fiero yet know nothing about it so I decided to make a little quiz for anyone who likes to talk smack. Take this quiz first.
http://www.quizyourfriends.com/quizp...163410-917267&

Ford Capri 2.8i 09-18-2007 05:45 PM

Very beautiful car indeed, it sounds awesome, and its a short car (as I like them); however, Ill appreciate a lot if I get its technical characteristics, its downsides, its lenght, if your engine has been tunned, and so on; since we dont have any reference at all about this car in Europe, thanks on advance

MidEngine4Life 09-18-2007 06:25 PM

Here are some numbers for you.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/811/fieroinfojr4.jpg

graywolf624 09-18-2007 06:28 PM

The basics.. Rwd mid engined car. v6 or 4 cylinder. 4 cylinders use to catch on fire.. V6 was capable in an mr2 type of way. The big thing about these cars and the reason they are all made into ferrari kits.. is they are one of the only cars with a frame structure entirely independent from the body. They could remove the body and you could drive the car and see little to no change in rigidity.

MidEngine4Life 10-29-2007 06:19 PM

She just came home from the paint shop. They didnt do a very good job but then again I didnt pay much. Still looks good in pictures! And I have new quarter windows on the way.
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7136/red1zh2.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5...8215dp7.th.jpg http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7...0946ox8.th.jpg http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5...8930od0.th.jpg http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7...idessy8.th.jpg

MidEngine4Life 11-06-2007 01:11 AM

Bump.

I installed the new quarter windows myself today. They need some touching up but otherwise they look great!. The car is finished for now until I can save up some more for new wheels, tires, suspension, and brakes
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2...dowswv9.th.jpg http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3825/toysgt7.th.jpg http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3137/rear1ni7.th.jpg

carguy_88 11-07-2007 11:44 PM

nice project. i love the looks of the fiero. Great pics too. :D :D

It's a shame people use theses cars to make pitiful Ferrari replicas :| :|

dutchmasterflex 11-08-2007 12:23 AM

Looking good..even with the Maaco paint job. Hard to believe that it's almost 20 years old, this definitely makes for a great project car.

MidEngine4Life 11-08-2007 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by everso
i've always had a soft spot for Fieros....yours looks great, man.

i think the car was hugely underrated in many ways....that fact sheet you posted makes for an interesting read.

those rims definitely gotta go!

cheers!

he he yea the rims are next on my list. Here are some new pics and a vid
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8418/lick3ss6.th.jpg http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4958/lick1hx3.th.jpg http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/654/grant1te2.th.jpg http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/234/grant3wa4.th.jpg http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/677...out2rk4.th.jpg http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9...doutwx6.th.jpg http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6...ton2jx5.th.jpg http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3...ton1ew2.th.jpg http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/6316/lick2br3.th.jpg http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4...bestyd7.th.jpg

Its amazing to think that this Fiero of mine, when I bought it, was a salvage title and the owner had no pink slip. I had to jump through many hoops to get this thing up to speed and registered

79TA 11-09-2007 04:52 AM

So, what is that building that you parked next you? It makes for some interesting scenery for sure.

Also, I checked out your video that you posted a while back. I didn't know a Fiero could sound that nice.

MidEngine4Life 11-09-2007 05:36 AM

Its called "Lick Observatory" on top of Mount Hamilton. You can see it from pretty much anywhere in the south San Francisco Bay. Many major discoveries in astronomy have been made there. They say on a clear day you can see famous "Half Dome" in Yosemite from there.
Here is a great video on it
http://www.openroad.tv/video.php?vid=84

MidEngine4Life 02-08-2008 07:53 AM

Havnt updated in a bit.
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8...oot1ne0.th.jpg http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1...oot3pj1.th.jpg http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/711...oot8lv2.th.jpg http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2...oot9mn5.th.jpg http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3...ot11mo4.th.jpg http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6...ot12hx9.th.jpg http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2...ot14dh4.th.jpg http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/539...ot16wm6.th.jpg http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4...ot17hs7.th.jpg http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6...ot19de6.th.jpg http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5...ot18aw8.th.jpg http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4...ot20ne2.th.jpg http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2...ot21ov6.th.jpg http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8...ot15hj0.th.jpg

BloodyPenguin 02-13-2008 01:29 AM

I really do like that car. No company (In the US) makes a small RWD car like that anymore. :crying:

xbeakerx 02-13-2008 01:46 AM


HeilSvenska 02-13-2008 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodyPenguin (Post 817298)
I really do like that car. No company (In the US) makes a small RWD car like that anymore. :crying:

Well, we have the Solstice and the Sky. But they're not mid engined, no.

79TA 02-13-2008 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xbeakerx (Post 817303)

Stan (repost)

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/show...ighlight=fiero

BloodyPenguin 02-13-2008 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeilSvenska (Post 817305)
Well, we have the Solstice and the Sky. But they're not mid engined, no.

They are also Roadsters. ;-) So you could also include the Miata, S2000 etc. with that.

79TA 02-13-2008 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodyPenguin (Post 817298)
I really do like that car. No company (In the US) makes a small RWD car like that anymore. :crying:

He was responding to your comment about US manufacturers, so those cars aren't included.

HeilSvenska 02-13-2008 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodyPenguin (Post 817312)
They are also Roadsters. ;-) So you could also include the Miata, S2000 etc. with that.

Eh. They're coming out with a Solstice Coupe. And you did ask for small American RWD cars, and that's what I told you. :-P

It's not like they designed the MR2 and Fiero to be some sort of 80's Elises. Just small, affordable sporting cars and the Solstice and the Sky are just that.

BloodyPenguin 02-13-2008 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeilSvenska (Post 817316)
It's not like they designed the MR2 and Fiero to be some sort of 80's Elises. Just small, affordable sporting cars and the Solstice and the Sky are just that.

I just think there would be a big demand for small (coupe) RWD with all the modders out there. I think a Toyota AE86 Type Car would have a great niche here in the US of A.

xbeakerx 02-13-2008 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 79TA (Post 817306)


sorry...:)

HeilSvenska 02-13-2008 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodyPenguin (Post 817318)
I just think there would be a big demand for small (coupe) RWD with all the modders out there. I think a Toyota AE86 Type Car would have a great niche here in the US of A.

I suppose so, but Toyota's making so much money off the Scion tC that it doesn't need to engineer a whole new RWD platform.

Money's the big issue, though. Otherwise, I'm sure everyone would do it. Even the Solstice and the Sky are still a bit too much for young people to own. Then again, why bother when you can buy a Mustang?

Getting back to the topic, I'm really growing warm to the Fieros. This red one looks very nice. :thumbup: I'd normally hate useless touches such as the glass filled buttresses, but it makes the car look shapely.

*I suppose that's the only way to have buttresses since it'd be impossible to see out of the car.

BloodyPenguin 02-13-2008 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeilSvenska (Post 817320)
I suppose so, but Toyota's making so much money off the Scion tC that it doesn't need to engineer a whole new RWD platform.

Money's the big issue, though. Otherwise, I'm sure everyone would do it. Even the Solstice and the Sky are still a bit too much for young people to own. Then again, why bother when you can buy a Mustang?

Ok, my last post about this issue.

GM just has issues in general. (Like their huge loss over 2007). That is why Toyota could do it right with a Cheap Lightweight RWD car. Keep the price around 20K. Could be a simple non-turbo with around 150HP.

I do love the tC btw, convinced my ex-girlfriend to buy one.

As for the Stang. I owned two of them, they are big and heavy.

79TA 02-13-2008 02:48 AM

Small rwd coupe for 20k with 150+ hp . . . ok, how's 177 sound? Then you've got the GM Sol/Sky and let GM deal with their financial issues. The warranty is dang good to.

Mustangs are heavy compared to such cars. I'm kind of hoping the generation after the next generation (2010 refresh) goes back to the fox body proportions. The rolled '89 Mustang GT I just got seems to be a lot of fun despite it's anemic 225 hp. Of course, it still has 300 pound-feet of torque pushing no more than 3100 pounds.

HeilSvenska 02-13-2008 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodyPenguin (Post 817325)
Ok, my last post about this issue.

GM just has issues in general. (Like their huge loss over 2007). That is why Toyota could do it right with a Cheap Lightweight RWD car. Keep the price around 20K. Could be a simple non-turbo with around 150HP.

I do love the tC btw, convinced my ex-girlfriend to buy one.

As for the Stang. I owned two of them, they are big and heavy.

Mustang's still the most accessible new RWD car.

Oh, and GM didn't really lose $38 billion last year. It's just some crazy corporate law that made GM report all their net losses over the years all at once.

Quote:

U.S. tax law allows a corporation that suffers net losses to carry forward the total loss balance into future years in order to use the negative numbers as offsets against future profits. The result is that future taxes are lower because the corporation is taxed only on the profits minus the forwarded loss. Meanwhile, the total losses that are carried forward are treated as assets on the balance sheet. That is where GM gets its total of $38.6 billion; it is the automaker's cumulative loss total.
Toyota won't do it. It could. But it wont. Not when it can comfortably ship boatloads of FWD cars without trying much.

MidEngine4Life 04-03-2008 05:45 PM

Tis a sad day in my life. Im saying goodbye to my second Fiero today. Im finally moving out of the parents house again and Im in a bit of nasty credit card debt that I need to sell the car to get out of. That and its a small apartment so Id have nowhere to park it. At least Im saving money on insurance each month. I took a few last pictures as I wait for the buyer to show up.
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6...ndi1pb6.th.jpg http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4...ndi2cf8.th.jpg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...TODAY.m239.lVI


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