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5vz-fe 01-04-2007 08:12 PM

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Well the numbers speak for themselves. The RDX is selling about half as many units as the projections. And of course the sales projections were very conservative to begin with. That is appallingly awful sales! Like others have said on that other board, this car will not survive through even one redesign cycle.

The RDX has to be one of the biggest flops since…. Hmmm….. maybe the 2002 T-Bird!?!? LOL Irony is a great thing!

OK, that comment was totally uncalled for. T-Bird is here stating facts and his own opinion, and here you are insulting him. Stop being such a little baby.

Well then you took it the wrong way. First of all I'm a big Ford fan. And an older T-Bird like he has as his Avatar would be totally cool! But I genuinely think the RDX is a terrible design, is way over priced, has a cheap plastic interior that everyone keeps calling "luxurious" and is destined to totally flop and be discontinued befe even one redesign cycle. Plus the piss poor sales numbers running at almost 50% below expectations say it all. None of that has anything to do with T-bird.

And all of this reminds me of the 2002 T-bird that we all know was a total disaster for Ford! That is all I was saying. It was not meant to be personal at all.

Cheap plastics? It really makes me wonder if u even sit in the car before at all.

dm_h_2007 01-04-2007 09:05 PM

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Well the numbers speak for themselves. The RDX is selling about half as many units as the projections. And of course the sales projections were very conservative to begin with. That is appallingly awful sales! Like others have said on that other board, this car will not survive through even one redesign cycle.

The RDX has to be one of the biggest flops since…. Hmmm….. maybe the 2002 T-Bird!?!? LOL Irony is a great thing!

OK, that comment was totally uncalled for. T-Bird is here stating facts and his own opinion, and here you are insulting him. Stop being such a little baby.

Well then you took it the wrong way. First of all I'm a big Ford fan. And an older T-Bird like he has as his Avatar would be totally cool! But I genuinely think the RDX is a terrible design, is way over priced, has a cheap plastic interior that everyone keeps calling "luxurious" and is destined to totally flop and be discontinued befe even one redesign cycle. Plus the piss poor sales numbers running at almost 50% below expectations say it all. None of that has anything to do with T-bird.

And all of this reminds me of the 2002 T-bird that we all know was a total disaster for Ford! That is all I was saying. It was not meant to be personal at all.

Cheap plastics? It really makes me wonder if u even sit in the car before at all.

Yes cheap plastic!!!
http://files.myopera.com/Mischa/albu...cura%20RDX.jpg
Just look at that. It looks just like the cheap interior of an RSX just with the added "neto" blue lighting. That looks cheap, like a civic. And that would be fine if the car cost $28k, but at 35, 36k its appaulling!

5vz-fe 01-04-2007 09:06 PM

U still haven't answer my question....have u sat in one before?

dm_h_2007 01-04-2007 09:09 PM

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U still haven't answer my question....have u sat in one before?

No and I never will. But I have driven the RSX, TSX ( I had a TSX for a month, talk about a cheap interior!! That fake plastic wood is about as bad as it gets!!), and TL. I have no interest to ever sit in or drive a RDX, ever.

Its not like the inside of any of these cars is that different for each other. All Honda's (Acuras) feel the same on the inside. Except the TSX has a steering wheel the size of a hola hoop!!

T-Bird 01-04-2007 11:27 PM

cheap interior by what standards? The interior isn't cheap at all in fact it is nicer than the 4 X3's we've had traded in on them and the Murano's aswell.

And I do agree that the truck is overpriced (Everyone at work agrees but you still realise it is cheaper than the real competition, Mazda doesn't count) It sits much higher than the RSX and TSX in terms of interior materials.

dm_h_2007 01-05-2007 12:23 AM

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cheap interior by what standards? The interior isn't cheap at all in fact it is nicer than the 4 X3's we've had traded in on them and the Murano's aswell.

And I do agree that the truck is overpriced (Everyone at work agrees but you still realise it is cheaper than the real competition, Mazda doesn't count) It sits much higher than the RSX and TSX in terms of interior materials.

By what standards? Just the simple standard of all other Acura/Honda products!

You can see those seats are the very same “perforated leather” as in the RSX, TSX, TL, S2K, and CRV, etc.. H#ll I have a top of the line 2003 Odyssey in my driveway with those very same perforated leather seats. And a NAV that is the very same minus that neto joystick!

That’s my point. The RDX does not really have any additional “luxury” features as any other Honda/Acura product!

And the interior of the CX-7 doesn’t count?? Why the hell not? Look at it!! Its just as nice as the RDX with it’s fancy boy plastic!! If anything it’s a little better! But the CX-7 costs around $7,000 less!!! And they have the very same displacement, turbo, and weight!

CX-7 photos -
http://www.gear6.net/images/feb06/cx72.jpg

http://images.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/i...y_CX7_int5.jpg

http://images.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/i..._CX7_int16.jpg

T-Bird 01-05-2007 12:51 AM

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cheap interior by what standards? The interior isn't cheap at all in fact it is nicer than the 4 X3's we've had traded in on them and the Murano's aswell.

And I do agree that the truck is overpriced (Everyone at work agrees but you still realise it is cheaper than the real competition, Mazda doesn't count) It sits much higher than the RSX and TSX in terms of interior materials.

By what standards? Just the simple standard of all other Acura/Honda products!

You can see those seats are the very same “perforated leather” as in the RSX, TSX, TL, S2K, and CRV, etc.. H#ll I have a top of the line 2003 Odyssey in my driveway with those very same perforated leather seats. And a NAV that is the very same minus that neto joystick!

That’s my point. The RDX does not really have any additional “luxury” features as any other Honda/Acura product!

And the interior of the CX-7 doesn’t count?? Why the hell not? Look at it!! Its just as nice as the RDX with it’s fancy boy plastic!! If anything it’s a little better! But the CX-7 costs around $7,000 less!!! And they have the very same displacement, turbo, and weight!


Actually the RDX seats are different just because they use the same leather doesn't mean the seat is the same especially when compared to the RSX. The Navi unit in the RDX is a generation ahead of the Newest Honda version and if you have an 03 Honda you are 2 gens behind. This isn't the top of the line big boy we are talking about the truck does what it does VERY well and trust me people looking at the RDX aren't looking at the CR-V and going well it is cheaper by 4-5K. The customers that come into our dealership are buying the Acura because it is an Acura and they pay cash, you have to remember the kind of clientel you get when you are looking at luxury vehicles even if we aren't quite Mercedes level. We had a guy with an NSX come in and buy and RDX because he wanted something to drive in the winter, and a guy in an F430 spider buy a TL for his airport car. Most of our RDX's though have gone to HighSchool and College kids.

dm_h_2007 01-05-2007 01:05 AM

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cheap interior by what standards? The interior isn't cheap at all in fact it is nicer than the 4 X3's we've had traded in on them and the Murano's aswell.

And I do agree that the truck is overpriced (Everyone at work agrees but you still realise it is cheaper than the real competition, Mazda doesn't count) It sits much higher than the RSX and TSX in terms of interior materials.

By what standards? Just the simple standard of all other Acura/Honda products!

You can see those seats are the very same “perforated leather” as in the RSX, TSX, TL, S2K, and CRV, etc.. H#ll I have a top of the line 2003 Odyssey in my driveway with those very same perforated leather seats. And a NAV that is the very same minus that neto joystick!

That’s my point. The RDX does not really have any additional “luxury” features as any other Honda/Acura product!

And the interior of the CX-7 doesn’t count?? Why the hell not? Look at it!! Its just as nice as the RDX with it’s fancy boy plastic!! If anything it’s a little better! But the CX-7 costs around $7,000 less!!! And they have the very same displacement, turbo, and weight!


Actually the RDX seats are different just because they use the same leather doesn't mean the seat is the same especially when compared to the RSX. The Navi unit in the RDX is a generation ahead of the Newest Honda version and if you have an 03 Honda you are 2 gens behind. This isn't the top of the line big boy we are talking about the truck does what it does VERY well and trust me people looking at the RDX aren't looking at the CR-V and going well it is cheaper by 4-5K. The customers that come into our dealership are buying the Acura because it is an Acura and they pay cash, you have to remember the kind of clientel you get when you are looking at luxury vehicles even if we aren't quite Mercedes level. We had a guy with an NSX come in and buy and RDX because he wanted something to drive in the winter, and a guy in an F430 spider buy a TL for his airport car. Most of our RDX's though have gone to HighSchool and College kids.

Seriously laughing my ass off!! those customers that "come into our dealership are buying the Acura because it is an Acura and they pay cash, you have to remember the kind of clientel you get when you are looking at luxury vehicles even if we aren't quite Mercedes level" are coming in at about half the projected rate!!

Dude I grew up in Scottsdale AZ with a dad that always had Acura company cars. I know all about the stereo typical Acura drivers. We belonged to Gainy Ranch and I worked at TPC Scottsdale in HS. This is the only type of people that would drive an RDX. The dad’s that come in and buy a cars for their spoiled, 17 year old, nerdy, braces stricken, dork son that thinks he is cool racing out in the desert on his way to hit balls after school!!

And the even nerdier dad thinks its neat to drive occasionally! I know ALL ABOUT Acura’s typical buyers!!

Like I said none of that will help the Honda Generic interior of all Acura’s. They can add all the bells and whistle they want but the seats, dash, and layout of all Acura’s will still just be a fancy Civic!!

T-Bird 01-05-2007 08:12 AM

Actually I would say 75%of all RDX drivers are woman under 35 not dorky little sons, they all get the TL's. And if you think that the Acura interiors resemble a fancy civic maybe you should visit your local Acura dealership sometime. very few cars sell at the projected rates if they all did there wouldn't be cars on lots at dealerships. trust me no ones hurting from the current sales.

dm_h_2007 01-06-2007 06:08 PM

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Actually I would say 75%of all RDX drivers are woman under 35 not dorky little sons, they all get the TL's. And if you think that the Acura interiors resemble a fancy civic maybe you should visit your local Acura dealership sometime. very few cars sell at the projected rates if they all did there wouldn't be cars on lots at dealerships. trust me no ones hurting from the current sales.

LOL your saying 75% of RDX drivers are women?? Wow dude I wouldn’t say that too loud around your dealership!! That will be the final screw in the RDX coffin!! You want those upper middle class, teenage, golf playing, male dorks to want the RDX!!! That is the whole philosophy of the "crossover" RDX. If it really is 75% woman then the RDX has already totally failed and died! And those golf playing dorks are not going to want a “chick car"!!

But thanks for helping me prove my point ;)

Lets just reiterate, a guy that works for Acura has just said the RDX is a chick car!

T-Bird 01-06-2007 10:06 PM

Umm and so is the TSX and RSX then along with the MDX and just about EVERY other luxury SUV including the Cayenne and Range Rovers. Acura never said it was to be for "upper middle class, teenage, golf playing, male dorks" it was to be for the people that had an RSX and are now in their mid/late 20's and need a bit more room but don't want a large SUV.

Oh and today we moved 3, 7 total this week not that bad actually.

dm_h_2007 01-06-2007 10:25 PM

LOL there is no way the RSX is 75% female!! There is no way the most popular female car on the market (VW Bug) is even 75%!! That was the whole point. You are so far off from reality and keep saying BS facts like they are real just because you work at an Acura dealership!

You need to go post that the majority of RSX owners are female crap on clubrsx.com! They will not only respond harshly too it, they will have links and facts to back it up!

T-Bird 01-07-2007 02:18 PM

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LOL there is no way the RSX is 75% female!! There is no way the most popular female car on the market (VW Bug) is even 75%!! That was the whole point. You are so far off from reality and keep saying BS facts like they are real just because you work at an Acura dealership!

You need to go post that the majority of RSX owners are female crap on clubrsx.com! They will not only respond harshly too it, they will have links and facts to back it up!

I'm just posting what I see on a daily basis and those numbers are for my Dealership NOT the whole country. what facts ar BS btw? that at my dealership from what I see nearly 75% of RDX drivers are female? and the same for RSX's? I see RSX-S' driven by guys and not even all of them and most base model RSX's are driven by women. you are trying to spout off here that the RDX is the greatest flop in the history of the Automobile. The projected sales of ALL SUV's is down because pussy ass bitches are whinning about gas prices eventhough they aren't that bad.


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