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turpija 06-29-2008 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlZ (Post 838170)
^ya know, hamilton already have more than one win, so comparing them two...dunno

I know, it was a joke, but really people are putting a lot of preasure on Lewis, he got all the fame and all the money so early and I think it might backfire at him same as it did to Britney.
but one thing is for sure it will be interesting to watch

zeus_2011 06-29-2008 06:05 AM

Dunno if u can compare Button to Hamilton. When Button arrived he was seen as a "hopeful" by the British press for about a season - which proved fruitless. On the other hand Lewis very nearly won a title in his rookie season (hence why I said to give him some slack!). Don't get me wrong, i was ecstatic when Kimi thrashed everyone last yr by just keeping his head down and scoring points where it mattered, but that doesn;t detract from Lewis applaudable performance, its what has made F1 interesting again (together with - for me at least - the exclusion of traction control ans other minor rule changes).

Lets hope we continue to get differing characters like Kimi - Massa - Hamilton - Kubica for the sake of F1.

Mattk 06-29-2008 08:13 AM

The difference is that Jenson Button seems to be a fairly likeable person. Lewis Hamilton is just...not.

On another note, he read a speech during the Nelson Mandela birthday concert recently. He tried to be humble and claimed he wasn't used to doing this sort of thing. Perhaps, but he did play Zeus in a Turkish play once.

crayzayjay 06-30-2008 04:13 PM

Nothing to do with people skills - he has those in abundance. He's very eloquent and knows how to act in front of the camera. I thought he was an arrogant tosser when he appeared on TG and the more I see him the more I cannot stand him.

Absolute tosser. Hope he never wins the championship

styla21 07-02-2008 06:38 AM

I just don't understand him saying things like this.... :-(

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However, the Briton told the Daily Mail newspaper on Monday that he saw little reason to seek advice from former grand prix drivers.
"I'm in a unique position," said Hamilton. "Nobody has felt exactly the same things as I've felt. The only person I really take advice from is my Dad.
"Whenever I speak to Damon or Jackie I do take what they say on board, but I'm not going to go searching them out and ask how I can be world champion. I want to do it on my own. I got to where I am on my own, with my family."
Jackie Stewart commented..
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Stewart said drivers like Hamilton, with only 25 grands prix under his belt, needed to be kept calm and to think strategically.
"The discipline of not making mistakes is what wins. To finish first, first you must finish," he said.
"My record was 99 starts and 27 wins, and it wasn't that I was necessarily that fast. It was just that I thought fairly carefully about how you had to go quickly but you couldn't go over the top.
"The drivers shouldn't go over the top, even now. The over-the-top thing has probably taken the world championship lead away from Lewis Hamilton right now."

Pokiou 07-02-2008 12:38 PM

Oh god.. the amount of @#$!,If you read what he says.. He simply said he wants to win on his own merits.. He doesn't want people to say... HE won cause Schuamacher taught him or Jackie taught him.. You know how hard it is to be 2nd... seriously... any1 with a younger brother ask them how it feels to be 2nd... and same goes for Hamilton, he wants to win with his own driving ability and learn him self.. Advice from his father so what. im 28 and i ask advice off my mother about my money ... yea i could go ask a banker but its not his money at the end of the day if i lose my money I lose it not him, so i understand why he listens and trusts his father. Mclaren will be around forever same as ferrari .. But the pilots will only be remembered if that even.

turpija 07-02-2008 03:26 PM

that's ok if he wants to win championship on his own but if he took some advices he might have been a champion allready ;-)

fordgt84 07-03-2008 03:49 AM

Hamilton is right though,
i mean at the end of the day it's him and the car, he has to use his own instincts, and apply the advice when HE feels necessary...no use living on the words of others, u must be able to make your own decisions and live with your mistakes... it's perfectly understandable that he listens to his father, he's the one who's had his back from day one, what have damon hill and jackie stewart done for him?

styla21 07-03-2008 04:21 AM

Performing at elite level is not just physical ability - it is as much a mental battle.
This is where coaching could make the difference.

Mark Hughes hits the mark in this article..
An extract:
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His talent is such that he’s quite capable of delivering devastating performances despite this. But until he’s come to terms with his fame, and stopped worrying about how a media he doesn’t understand is going about its job, there will be inconsistencies in his performances.
This isn’t intended to be ‘nasty’. It’s just the reporting of how things are.

styla21 07-04-2008 01:39 AM

Some funny comments made :-)
From ITV-f1.com

Dad pulls Lewis out of Button triathlon.
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Lewis Hamilton’s father Anthony has put a stop to his son’s plans of competing against Jenson Button in a charity triathlon.
Hamilton accepted his fellow British driver’s challenge to compete in a swim-bike-run event later this month in Thursday’s press conference at Silverstone, after claiming he was fitter than Button earlier this week.
In a lively press conference ahead of their home race, the McLaren and Honda drivers got involved in an entertaining exchange that resulted in Hamilton eventually accepting the challenge after regular triathlon runner Button offered to give money to charity if he lost.
“What if I say £10,000 to the charity of your choice if you beat me? What do you think?” Jenson asked.
“Are you trying to steer me off this championship or what?” Lewis replied.
Button then countered: “It’s the only thing I can be competitive in at the moment. Think about it.”
Then asking further pressing on whether the event would take place by the assembled reporters, Hamilton eventually agreed: “The biggest incentive is, if I do beat you, then you’ve got some money for a charity which is great. However, you do have an advantage as you’ve already done one, and I already know that by doing one you’re better the next time. But man, I’m up for it, I’m up for it.
He then added: “OK, let’s do it. It’s a date.”
However what would likely have been a much-hyped ‘F1 Battle of Britain’ has now been scrapped after Lewis’s father and manager Anthony pulled his son out of the planned event.
"Lewis accepted the challenge like the good sport he is and in the spirit with which he accepts things,” Hamilton senior said in a statement.
“But unfortunately for Lewis, we are withdrawing him from this.
“We are in the middle of a championship and that is the focus of our attention."
The third British driver in the press conference, David Coulthard had already ruled himself out of going up against his two younger compatriots, with the Scot, heading for retirement at the end of the season, saying at 37 he was too old.
He did however offer to carry the water bottles.

woodymcruk 07-06-2008 11:07 AM

senna in lewis's car now that would be somthing,he shouldnt compare himself to senna he still doesnt have the experience,put lewis in a redbull he;d lose,best team doesnt necessarily have the best driver does it?,jim clark,seppi,moss, senna and jackie stewart etc..werent as arrogant ,im suprised he compaired himself i think less of him now,
also has anyone here ever done research on senna ,away from the track he was diffrent and gave money to others less fortunate ,was couragious and caring ,while lewis is skilled on the track his off track comments are weak /arrogant ,i bet when he was younger he got everything daddy can i.have..etc etc what a jerk ,and yes im from the uk and no im not really a senna fan

Pokiou 07-06-2008 11:31 AM

There you go to all the Lewis haters.. he proved you all wrong. I hope your all proud of your selves cause I'm certainly not proud of any of you that bad mouthed him.

SHIZL 07-06-2008 04:15 PM

what he has done so far in his career scares some people he reminds me of the drivers of the 60s and 70s rock stars showing up to red carpet events expressing himself he has already proved his greatness behind the wheel i just wonder how many complaints there would be if he was behind the wheel of a certain ARROGANT HORSE there are so many ferrari fans that got use shumi winning anything and everything that if anybody else wins they try to find anything to complain about. dont get me wrong i love ferrari i love racing and i love competetive racing just that alot of ferrari fans are arrogant and ignorant towards anybody else winning in f1

styla21 07-07-2008 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SHIZL (Post 839512)
what he has done so far in his career scares some people he reminds me of the drivers of the 60s and 70s rock stars showing up to red carpet events expressing himself he has already proved his greatness behind the wheel i just wonder how many complaints there would be if he was behind the wheel of a certain ARROGANT HORSE there are so many ferrari fans that got use shumi winning anything and everything that if anybody else wins they try to find anything to complain about. dont get me wrong i love ferrari i love racing and i love competetive racing just that alot of ferrari fans are arrogant and ignorant towards anybody else winning in f1

Bro! Punctuate.;-)

styla21 07-07-2008 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokiou (Post 839427)
There you go to all the Lewis haters.. he proved you all wrong. I hope your all proud of your selves cause I'm certainly not proud of any of you that bad mouthed him.

Proud of ourselves? Wha? :mrgreen:
Lewis didn't kamikaze into a stationary car, or clip a wall for once? Is that what you mean? Seriously though, I'm stoked for him to win in front of a home crowd, that's great! Good to see his fan-boy club resurgence as well;-)
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Originally Posted by SHIZL (Post 839512)
what he has done so far in his career scares some people he reminds me of the drivers of the 60s and 70s rock stars showing up to red carpet events expressing himself he has already proved his greatness behind the wheel i just wonder how many complaints there would be if he was behind the wheel of a certain ARROGANT HORSE there are so many ferrari fans that got use shumi winning anything and everything that if anybody else wins they try to find anything to complain about. dont get me wrong i love ferrari i love racing and i love competetive racing just that alot of ferrari fans are arrogant and ignorant towards anybody else winning in f1

Bro! Punctuate. I give you a gold star for longest run-on sentence ever!:-)

SHIZL 07-07-2008 02:12 AM

Lol, never was big on writing.

Mattk 07-07-2008 10:05 AM

Made some fair points though. I'd agree that Schumacher himself was quite arrogant on the track and a lot of his fans were too. However, he seemed like a nice guy off the track. I disagree though, that Hamilton has 'proved his greatness'. He's good, but not good enough to act like he's the best, because he ain't.

SHIZL 07-07-2008 12:23 PM

a year and a half into his career who has done more with that time. he is one of those greats that come through racing only once in a while. people cant see that yet and have to wait until his career is over before they realize how amazing some of these drives have been in his rookie and sophmore years.

5vz-fe 07-07-2008 01:19 PM

Arrogant and skills doesn't need to come hand in hand. That's all that we are saying. I don't think anyone here is denying his achievements regardless of how good the Mclaren is in recent years (from how well he fend off his teammates).

Y compare him with F1 Legends when he's still only a rookie. Yes, he has broken a few records. Nonetheless, he's still no WDC yet, nevermind several WDCs to whom he is compared to. Button has been enjoying relatively successful early years, look where he is now.

I never able to understand Pokiou, we are discussing arrogance, and have no clue how winning the British GP will prove anyone wrong regarding that.

styla21 07-07-2008 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 5vz-fe (Post 839695)
Arrogant and skills doesn't need to come hand in hand. That's all that we are saying. I don't think anyone here is denying his achievements regardless of how good the Mclaren is in recent years (from how well he fend off his teammates).

Well said. :thumbup:

SHIZL 07-08-2008 12:05 AM

we are talking about the same sport here,(arrogance in f1 no there couldnt be) just enjoy the driver who cares what the person does so long as he is not breaking any laws

Mattk 07-08-2008 12:18 AM

^Another fair point. I enjoy watching F1 and Hamilton is a part of that because he is good, but I still don't have to like the guy. I still think he's aloof.

5vz-fe 07-08-2008 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SHIZL (Post 839758)
we are talking about the same sport here,(arrogance in f1 no there couldnt be) just enjoy the driver who cares what the person does so long as he is not breaking any laws

Damn right I am enjoying F1 right now. ;-)

But what's the fun if everything is what it is? Why do you think people even buy magazines or surf the web to read about the private life of celebrities if all we should care is how they act/sing/write... ? It's part of our life, topics we talk with a beer on our hands. Chit chats.

It's not like we are losing sleep over things like this, but this is stuff we debate on a forum.

Boosted 07-23-2008 09:12 PM

ya know, I'm of the opinion that Hamilton is a super nice guy! Seeing him on Top Gear and listening to him speak on BBC before the F1 races gave me a new respect for him as compared to last year when I knew nothing about him and just watched him race. I don't know much about the quote about comparing himself to Senna, but I look at it this way. The media is ALWAYS going to make a big deal out of mistakes and goof ups. So maybe he mis-spoke or got a little over excited and said something he shouldn't have. But 9 out of 10 times, he's speaking like a humble, mature, F1 driver. He's not bad mouthing other drivers or intentionally causing problems for other drivers. I don't like McLaren, but I have the utmost respect for LH. He shows a lot more emotion than Kimi and I appreciate that too. Gives you something to connect with, and feel closer to the sport.

scarfacegrimm 07-27-2008 04:57 PM

yes he is arrogant, he has been silver spoon fed to believe he is the best thing since slice bread - unfortunately they didnt give him any training on how to be humble and respectfull.

it's a shame reallly

Pokiou 07-31-2008 12:33 AM

i think his well mannered. Do you want him to kick over a photographer do you ??? do you know why he can be arrogant.. CAUSE HE CAN... he is by far one of the BEST drivers out there.

sprakzilla 07-31-2008 08:24 AM

britneys got talent!! NOT!

Mattk 07-31-2008 10:04 PM

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do you know why he can be arrogant.. CAUSE HE CAN... he is by far one of the BEST drivers out there.
That's no excuse. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Besides, he's an ambassador for his team and the sport, so he actually can't act like a dickhead in front of the media.

Pokiou 08-01-2008 10:11 AM

I fail to see where he has acting like an arsehole!

sanj 08-03-2008 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokiou (Post 844529)
i think his well mannered. Do you want him to kick over a photographer do you ??? do you know why he can be arrogant.. CAUSE HE CAN... he is by far one of the BEST drivers out there.

i don't think hammilton is a good driver, because he start at F1 racing in a good tean and he's lucky in the races. He can't compare himself to Senna, he's starting the carrer yet and he's not even won a champioship. :thumbdown:

I preffer much more Felipe Massa, he always trying to do he's best in the race.

Pokiou 08-03-2008 10:53 PM

The best is just not cutting it.. he fails over and over again.. Massa is a Failed F1 pilot..

Hamilton can compare him self to who ever he wants... Nigel Mansel the Stig even I don’t care.. He can cause that’s what his aiming for... One day there is going to be another racer out there that’s going to say i want to be like Hamilton.

So Sanj, your point here is irrelevant.

Its called comparison and idolising.

schumigirl1956 08-04-2008 08:22 AM

Lewis Hamilton Arrogant.
 
I agree he is very arrogant also rather a big headed bragger on a certain website he claims he is better than Michael Schumacher and over take Michael achievements and titles, he should be so lucky he never will, he has a great deal to learn,:angry: he will never be like Michael. I agree with Michael that Lewis has to learn to be more patient since that incident in Canada:thumbup:he should check the pit lane lights and stop boasting too much, Lewis was invited to race with Schumi at The Race of Champions instead of Jenson Button, they asked him why didnt you go, he says he was afraid of Michael beating him. well this shows you Lewis hasnt got what it takes.:laugh:silly lad, its time he grew up and face it that he isnt as clever as he makes out to be.

SHIZL 08-04-2008 09:56 AM

all f1 pilots are arrogant this goes without saying and and schumigirl certain websites arnt him saying it and schumi isnt racing right now apples and oranges and again what hamilton has done in his first year nobody can compare with it and one more thing he is racing without computer aids or at least the ones that matter thats more than most f1 pilots can say over the last 30 years i havent seen a better wet weather pilot since jacky ickx this sport is full of pompeus arses to single out one that will be one of the greats is arrogant


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