I'm bringing it front and center. the issue is that a few people have gone out of thier way to discredit me; with one straight up accusing me of lying and making up stories. I won't roll over and let anybody slander me. Jabbasworld was founded having quality members making quality posts. Calling people out used to mean something, now, "owning" somebody is just saying you agree with thier opinion... not what the facts state.

people you probably wont ever meet? its the internet and a forum filled with guys with oppinions on everything,people are gonna beleive one thing and you another,all im saying is dont take it to heart :wink:

I dont think he means "why dont you like me" - I think he means "If you have an issue say so dont just imply it".

Afterall, 5 years later, JW is more like a large pub than just a another Intardweb Forum... and while not everyone in the pub likes each other, at least they should not try start bar fights for no reason ;)

Jabba is the bar-keep, Dan is the hitman who lives upstairs and is often seen passing throuhg the shadows on his way out on another hit, while TT is the hot blonde waitress who... ooops - my bad... wrong fantasy... :P

+1 :wink:

Sorry to hear that you feel like you do but it is the internet so I think you just have to live with it.

i get what your saying,but people are gonna voice there oppinions whether it be to one or the others taste,dis-agreeing with things is part of life,not everyone has the same views. :wink:

and you knwo to keep quiet about the whole TT and waitress thing....you know he doesnt like it broadcast :P

Guys can we all move on now and carry on as normal.. :bah:

So now I just let people roll over me? Brembo is flat out accusing me of lying. And has been online posting since i gave more then enough evidence to say that I am who I say I am, and I know who I say I know.

its a "shit rolls down hill" theory that I'm here to put an end to before its such a huge wad of shit, everything I post here is considered junk, and useless... at that point, then why on earth would I stay at JW? as RC45 has said, JW is something different, and has been since I first started here. Ferrarichat is just another forum, viperbond's site is just another forum, for most of us... every other forum is just another forum. I am stopping a snowball effect of first one person saying something about me, another believing/agreeing (+1 BS) and another and another. I won't have it.

Either you bring your issues with me directly, or you STFU.

I will carry on as normal everywhere else; as I am doing now already. But, Brembo must have a lot to say, as does Sameer based on thier comments as of late.

Either you guys put up, or STFU.

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/show...r=asc&start=25

This has nothing to do with opinion, but slander and credibility.

ask any of the JW members who have met me if I haven't introduced them to people, and shared our (JW-ites) enthusiasm with the successful people I know (r2r, vansquish, graywolf, t-bird), introduced them to somebody high up in the automotive world (graywolf/T-bird). And they have most definately not been around for the full ride.

The problem is that you demand that people bring their issues to you directly or STFU. I wish the same sometimes but internet doesn't work like that, unfortunately.

i get what your saying i also like people to confront me directly.........but thats in life,not the internet.if someone online has a problem then they have a problem,theres a few people on JW id love to meet who i known for a while but talking with them i know id get on with them but the people i dont get on with then who cares,i dont and probably wont meet them.ive only met 1 person off JW,thats daggernite and from knowing him a while before hand we knew we would get on.

but as i said,so what if people have problems/issues with you or you with them.maybe yes people could stop harsh comments and just get along but people will express there views on things whether its what you agree with or not :)

again, this isn't an issue on weather somebody has the same opinion as me or not. This is something different altogether.

Sorry, but I doubt this topic would help. It would just cause more fights or nothing at all...

You guys are all grown up and I am sure you can settle this (if it needs to be settled) back channel.

I am sure the other members around here are not puppets being molded by other members posts and judging a member by others' posts. so i really don't see the need for (yet another) public debate.

Sorry for the censorship, but sometimes if some situations are like this it's because both parties refuse to just let it go, live on and ignore the "problem". bring it up again and again won't settle it. It will cause the opposite IMO