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Originally Posted by dani_d_mas

Ah - and Mercedes and Ferrari coming back, alongside with Porsche in LMP1 - would be a dream come true!! **dreming**

keep dreaming, I'd love to see it, but I guess they cant afford more than one motrosport... :roll:

More complaning about the R10

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Audi R10 has "insurmountable and crushing advantage"
As previously reported, the American Le Mans Series has allowed Dyson Racing to modify its race car mid-season in order to allow it to compete more effectively with the diesel-powered Audi R10. On Monday, we brought you commentary from Audi about the new rules, which it said were unfair. Dyson Racing has now responded, saying, "it is proven on the track on multiple occasions that this new technology provides an insurmountable and crushing advantage, then it is no longer racing but rather a demonstration run."

"We were perplexed by Audi Sport's reaction to the well-intentioned measures the ALMS is taking to improve the quality of racing," said Chris Dyson, Sporting Director of Dyson Racing, in response to Audi's recent public threats to leave the series. "We normally wouldn't respond to such remarks, but since we have been directly addressed by a competitor, we feel it is appropriate to respond.

"We understand the ACO's need to grant latitude in the rules to encourage an unproven technology, and Audi's diesel R10 is a technological wonder. There is no question that Audi have produced an amazing machine under the current regulations.

"But when it is proven on the track on multiple occasions that this new technology provides an insurmountable and crushing advantage, then it is no longer racing but rather a demonstration run.

"We were surprised at the stridency of Audi's reaction. It is the job of a sanctioning body to adjust the rules as needed, and as competitors we abide by their changes. We realize that these adjustments may not create an ideally level playing field, but all that racers look for is a reasonable opportunity to be competitive. In over 20 years of its history with IMSA, Dyson Racing has never shied away from a fair fight and our reputation is founded on taking the fight to the best in the world.

"Audi's posture is puzzling given the current situation. Our car has been given a weight break, which helps us slightly over a lap. The upcoming increase in LMP1 gasoline-powered fuel tanks by five liters will provide some very small relief, but given diesel's greater energy per liter properties, in its current guise the Audi R-10 still maintains a disproportionate advantage over gasoline-powered prototypes. Their greater straight line speeds and much better fuel economy have not changed. And that central issue still remains – the absurd disparity between diesel and gasoline fuel economy. And these areas also need to be addressed.

"We applaud the American Le Mans Series' understanding of the spirit of sports car racing and we hope that their collaborative efforts with the ACO will continue to make the ALMS and Le Mans a place for fair competition. We trust that our competitors will understand the need to work together to foster the growth of our racing series."

-LeftLaneNews.com

Well the teams can easily see if audi would sell them variants of that winning engine. :D ......yeah right

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Originally Posted by dani_d_mas

So - if someone develops a winning technology - diesel engines - the rivals just say it's an unfair disadvantage....... :roll: :roll:

Yep thats pretty much it in a nutshell! :roll:

If Audi were still running the all-conquering R8, I don't think there would be any difference in the complaints right now.

Well all ur complaints aren't entirely true imo... all teams are restricted by rules, to make the competition in each class more or less even/fair. If the other (petrol) teams are competing while having to follow rules that simply don't allow for the kind of speed that the diesel rules allow for, its simply unfair. A 5.5 litre twin turbo V12 is allowed for diesel engines, while petrol engines can only be 6l NA or ¿3.5? litre turbocharged. Those rules have applied to petrol engines for quite some years now, and there hasn't really been a hige lot of improvement in terms of power anymore, so apparently the current engines are about hte maximum possible with the current rules (not counting in insane development budgets like in F1 ofcourse). If under the new diesel regs Audi comes up and immediately has an engine that's much much stronger, i think it's logical to conclude the rules give them much of the advantage, not just their very high skill and knowledge and expertise.

BTW i'm sad to see so many regulations in all forms of motorsports, but seriously with modern technology without these rules cars would get too fast for the human mind to be able to control, it would bring back the days of lethal accidents again. But it was great to see technology being pushed and genius solutions being thought of in the era of less rules...