I think Alsono is deserving of the title, but a legend not just yet, he is a good driver but you need to have more then one championship title to your name to be consider a legend (i.e-Villenivue, Hill)

Winning the Formula one championship, takes a lot of things into consideration for a team, reliablility being one of them, Ferrari during the years of winning its championship had the fastest car but also they had a strong reliablitiy in there cars, they were not subjected to techincal failures in their cars.

Mclaren's car is the fastest car right now, but there realiablity is terrible, if Kimi and Mclaren do not win the championship, they have no one to blame except for themselves.

Renault is winning the championship presently because at the start of the season they had the fastest car and one of the most realiable cars on the grid. During the course of the season, they have lost the position of being the fastest but there realiablility is still one of the best. Taking second place is still good because they are only losing two points to the winner compared to not even scoring points because of DNF.

I don't know about the rest of them, but i was just saying he doesn't really deserve to be held up with Schumi, Senna and Prost yet.

He does deserve the championship this year, providing Raikonnen's luck keeps dropping out from under him.

Alonso is in his year. Almost everything is going very good for him.
And yes, luck does sometimes make a driver champion without having the best car or being the best driver.
He is good... but he still has to prove of what he's is made from.
Great drivers do great things with flawless or shitty cars.

I would love to see him fall, to have a couple of bad years and see if he has the balls to recover.

Does anyone remembers in Canadian GP, Alonso was saying how he and a few others exits was doing someone someone big favours. Wake up Dick, Kimi has done more favours for u this year than u doing favours for others and he didn't even say a word about it. Please do us a favour and STFU.

so GV isn't a legend on your sheet eh? some legends didn't even get the glory of a championship :wink:

and people please stop complaining about other teams not finishing a race...
it isn't 1 fast hot lap, it is 70 laps in a race... I know it is sad an all,, boo hoo, for all you that haven't been watching for more then the rise of shumi plenty or races/championships have been won and loss just the same :roll:
that is the sport :twisted:

The boy got skills, I dont doubt that, but his mouth should be kept shut at this point. He has not achieved enough convicingly to talk shit...yet....and that shit with his fingers???? I can count thank you.

you think Alonso is cocky, you should of seen Senna :wink:

Senna has the right to be, he's a legend.

Alonso on the other hand has some good victories, good races, but he has not yet proven to me that he is THAT good. But he talks like he's the damn man.

In my view he hasnt earned the right to be a jackass yet :D

lol, ok if you think so, senna was cocky from the get go. even in formula ford and his first f1 race he was calling him self a gift from god :D

alonso will have more effect in the history books then anyother driver out their right now, except for one :wink:

If Alonso backs up his current trash talking by Senna like performance in the future then I take back what I say now about him :lol:

Strong words ... but can you state why you think he is worthless. It makes no sense to me based on this year's performance.

I agree! I think he is one of the best of the post-Schumacher era. I personally think that Kimi is the best of the lot but if you run a poll over here at JW you would get names such as Kimi, Alonso, Montoya (yes Montoya!).

But a legend like Prost, Senna, Stewart ... nope .. he hasnt done enough to earn that status. But the good news for him and Kimi is that they both have atleast 6-8 years more driving in them to take a shot at legenddom.

I happen to like Montoya as well. Everyone bitches that there is no overtaking anymore, yet when he moves to over take and gets cut off, everyone accuses him of being kamikaze :?

I just flew over all the posts so I could be saying something that has allready been said.....

I don'k know who was watching F1 back when Schumi start wining races in Beneton.....

Schumi is a legend and if back in the day somebody would say or ask if this guy called Schumacher is deserving of a title, I don't think he would have many people cheering for him...

If I remember correctly, he won the first 3 or 4 races in the 93 or was it 94 season, the one that Senna died, and I was going like, who is this guy and what is he trying to do. Is he trying to be the best, get the crown or what? I was convinced that whoever Schumi was, he just had a few lucky races.......and not to mention all the years when Schumi had a car that was waaaaay better than the rest of the field...

I remember my dad and brothers saying he'll fade away and look at him 10 or so years after.......

Don't get me wrong, I still think Alonso has a long way to go, but I think he could potentially be one of the big ones. I think currently Kimi is the best driver out there and that if he wouldn't have that UNBELIVABLE "luck", he would be leading the boards.....

I say we have a new era comming up, let's see what happens, we might me suprised...

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lol, ok if you think so, senna was cocky from the get go. even in formula ford and his first f1 race he was calling him self a gift from god

alonso will have more effect in the history books then anyother driver out their right now, except for one


-Senna WAS Gods gift and people respected his cockiness because he was on another level doing things with the cars that no one ever thought about before.

Schumacher could be arrogant because he could mix his dog of a Ferrari up with the big boys in 96-98 when Eddie struggled to do so.

Alonso has been in F1 for 2minutes in brilliant machinery bar the Minardi (okay Senna and schumi didnt really have shit cars in there careers) and never reallly under pressure and I don't see why he can be cocky yet. However I don't think he seems cocky off the track (except being bold enough to say the reason hes winning is cus he can actually finish races in the last press conference- good on him :!: )

We're definetly seeing a big talent in the making, but once we see the pressure being put on of and on the track then we will see what hes made of, maybe later this season if we're very lucky.

Kimi is a better driver in my mind and more likely to make a big impact on history if his engine lets him. :(

first senna was cocky, even when he was in his frist season, even in his first test drive, always, always was.

same with Schumacher - senna even had to calm him down. Senna of all poeple.

now I have never said kimi is a bad driver. Kimi is one of the top drivers out their. but he isn't 1st or 2nd, neither is alonso.

but unless Kimi wins more champ. then Schumi, alonso will have more of an effect then kimi will in the history in the sport. I guarantee it!!! 100%, you can't take back what alonso has already done, and what kimi hasn't.

the fastest driver isn't always the best :wink: