Max Mosely: 2008 Rule Changes will happen regardless!!!

[akumapc]

Max Mosley has denied claims that his rule-changes are up for discussion.

The FIA president said radical reforms like the end of traction control and semi-automatic gearboxes will happen whether the current teams like it or not.

From 1 January 2008, the current Concorde Agreement is no longer in force.

MEETING

'So the FIA can do whatever it wants,' said Mosley in Imola. 'People just have to decide whether they want to enter the 2008 championship.'

It had been expected that a meeting in Monaco in early May would uncover if all of the sport's ten team principals would unanimously vote for the changes.

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2008 PROPOSED RULE CHANGES

Technical:
• 2.4-literV8 engines, with a maximum of four valves per cylinder
• Engines must last two race weekends
• Specified components to made from “spec” materials
• Standard ECUs
• Manual gearboxes and clutches
• Ban on electronically controlled differentials
• Ban on power steering
• Standard braking systems
• Tire widths reduced front and rear
• Aero package to reduce grip, straightline and cornering speeds

Sporting:
• No spare cars allowed during race weekends
• Cars to remain in parc ferme throughout event
• A single tire supplier, producing to FIA “spec”
• Drastic reduction in testing based on mileage
• Two identical sets of tires for qual and race
• New qualifying system
• No tire changes during the race

General:
• No restrictions on sale or loan of chassis between teams
• Twelve team entries to be accepted every year[/b]

[Anonymous]

i voted mosely shove it up his ass and start a new formula. If i owned a team i wouldn't want to totally redevelop the car to the suggested extent. Eventually IMO what will happen will be a comprimise as always because the big teams will use thier influence by threatening to start their own series. I just hope whatever decison is made it makes the sport a bit more competitive though BAR are already looking promising

Mosely's next suggestion to slow down ferrari

http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v132/alsw123/mosely.jpg

(2 mins of crap photoshop work!!) :D

[schnell318]

I would tell him to shove it up his ass because the rule changes are just plain stupid. To make so radical rule changes would be better to start another racing series and keep F1 as it is.

[racer_f50]

holy shit, this guy needs a baseball bat or two rammed up his ass side-ways!

wtf is with these rules?
no tire changes during a race? is this guy retarded?

i don't suppose anyone here is rich enough to just go buy the FIA and fire this asshole? i'm all for rules making F1 more even and fair, but some of the stuff this guy wants is plain idiotic and just a poor exercise of power.

[SPEEDKILLAR]

When 2008 comes and he gets his way, I'll stop watching F1, and I'm sure other millons of fans will do the same. :x :x :x :x :x :x :x

[stradale]

First of all, I think F1 isn't as boring as everyone says. But if Mosley's rules would be effectuated I fear we've got another F3000 on our hands. Ergo, far more boring than what F1 is now.

Second problem is that these rules would take one unique aspect of F1 away. F1 is by far the most technically advanced motorsport. The race for best technology and the immense efforts that lie at the basis of that make F1 so special. F1 is not all about 20 drivers and 17 GPs. It's a continuous struggle between whole teams.

It won't surprise you I voted for the first option and I honestly hope that's where Mosley's new regulations end up.

The ONLY thing I like about this proposal is the manual gearbox and clutch. The rest is complete and utter BS.

[gucom]

ofcourse i voted for the shove-up-his-ass option. BTW how did they want to make an aero package t oreduce both straight-line speed and downforce? do they want to make the car as unstable as they can? add as much drag as they can? i hope the big teams will never ever agree with these rules, i mean i thought the rules for this season were being way too strict! F1 is supposed to be about innovation and the fastest cars on earth, and trying to be the best. If other teams arent fast enough or rich enough, let them play around in F3000, but dont bring the fast teams down!

[noosee]

It will not be an F1 anymore. I don't even think that will be F1 after 2007.

[SFDMALEX]

Why worry? Ferrari, Williams and someone else already said that they are planning on starting their own series in 2008 I think. That was like a year ago. The teams will tell mosley to fuck off and form their own F1.

[SL55 AMG]

To me much of the changes remind me of F3000, especially the engine restriction. Is Formula 1 not the ultimate in technology and speed?? by now for me, i saw let him do what 'he thinks is best' and then when 50+% of the fans dont support the sport maybe he'll see

[SPAD]

THIS IS THE MOST RETARDED THING I HAVE EVER SEEN!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DIE U OLD FART! DIE!

[SPAD]

I would have no passion but music......

[oscargarza88]

he's an Ass!
make a new formula!
i hope no one enters it


and SPAD why do u do that?! thats what the edit button is for

[ae86_16v]

Exactly, I can't stand why people would hate on Ferrari just because they are that freaking good. I mean come on, they have come a long way since the mid and late 90s. I applauded Ferrari for putting up such a good race car, having a great driver, and having an awesome team of people to back it all up.

[akumapc]

UPDATE:

F1 is likely to strike a knock-out blow to the proposed 'break away' series.

As bosses head to Monaco for a meeting, sources are reporting that all competing teams should vote for Max Mosley's raft of reforms to be installed in 2006.

'It has to happen, and it's going to happen,' a team insider told 'The Times'.

He said the key was 'bringing Ferrari onside.

'We knew the writing was [then] on the wall for Williams and McLaren.'

FIA boss Mosley's proposals aim to make races more exciting and F1 less expensive - 'the public don't care about high-technology,' said the source.

'They just want to see cars racing at incredible speeds.'

Source GMM / CAPSIS International

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SO.... Max thinks F1 isn't about technology and nobody cares about it... OMFG this guy is such a cunt :shock: If I wanted to watch the same cars go around a track I would watch F3000!

On top of all this Max and his team of fucking idiots are trying to persuade Ferrari to NOT jump ship to the new series, thinking they are the key to F1. Well, I'm already tired of seeing ferrari win so much and with only MINARDI and JAGUAR left as possible competetors after 2008 I don't think Ferrari would face much competetion.. Funny isn't it... that if that does go though F1 would be powered pretty much by Ford, just like Cart is today :roll:

[kteo2003]

soory i didn't get...the teams are saying that they cannot do anything to change these rules???i mean come on what is going on?

[Toronto]

well i think if they FIA doesn't allow the teams to vote, the big 4 teams would just give up and leave, what would the point of staying around, they might as well go to irl or cart.

[kteo2003]

i heard that renault williams and mclaren said something for making their own formula 1 championship...has anybody of you heard something else?

[akumapc]

UPDATE: 04/05/04

Formula One team chiefs agreed in principal to give the go-ahead to sweeping changes designed to make the sport more exciting after a meeting with FIA president Max Mosley here Tuesday.

A new engine format, a single tyre supplier and a ban on electronic driver aids were three of the many areas accepted by the teams for introduction by the 2008 season.

Mosley and the 10 team principals were joined by the sport's commercial rights holder, Bernie Ecclestone, and several engine manufacturers for the meeting, which took place in the Automobile Club de Monaco. And Mosley said: "It was a very good meeting. Where I had expected very significant dispute and debate there really was none and it was very constructive.

"We went through all of the proposals and discussed them with the teams in some detail and as far as doing things sooner than 2008 there was a wide measure of agreement that we need changes much sooner. It will make Formula One more interesting, there will be closer racing and more overtaking. The basic idea is to make the racing closer and more interesting for the fans because that is what they want to see."

The engine format could be brought in two years early, by 2006, if engine manufacturers can come up with an efficient method of reducing costs when they meet to discuss ideas at this weekend's Spanish Grand Prix.

Mosley added: "I think we are going to see a new engine formula in 2006 and the engine manufacturers are going to make proposals in addition to those that we have made to reduce the engine cost by 50 percent."

A new qualifying format could be brought in before the end of the year after team principals agreed the back-to-back single lap system introduced this season has failed.

Mosley hopes the changes will improve the spectacle and put a greater emphasis on driver skills while also reducing operating costs and encouraging new teams to enter the sport. He is also pushing for a reduction in non-event testing throughout the year and is also keen on banning mid-race tyre changes while retaining refuelling stops in Grands Prix.

He believes the sport has suffered from a lack of entertainment in recent years and pointed to the battle between Valentino Rossi and Max Biaggi in the opening MotoGP race of the year as an example to follow.

"Everyone I know who likes racing is still talking about Valentino Rossi and Max Biaggi in South Africa. These people care about racing and I think that the point on that is now being accepted."

The conclusions from the meeting here, and from the additional engine manufacturer's discussions, will now be presented for approval to the FIA's World Motorsport Council at a meeting to take place on June 30.


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Congratulations FAGGOTS you just turned off a majority of your audience. We're talking NO TECHNOLOGY HERE FOLKS. Everything in this new "spec" formula 1 car will have been around since the 70's. Manual Shift, Manual Clutch, Standard ECU gayness, 2.4liter NON TURBO pissy faggot V8 engines, no power steering, and worst of all Aero package to reduce grip, straightline and cornering speeds!!!! So basically all the advanced research and development is being shit on, and you won't see it anymore in F1 after these rules go into effect. Lets just go back to carburated engines while we're at it oh and better yet lets use the aerokits from the 1970's F1 cars instead of the too highly aerodynamic mordern kits we have on the cars today. That would be a great way to stifle innovation and advanced research. Don't forget to change your name to F1000....

OH MY GOD WHO DO I HAVE TO KILL NOW?!?!!? They are doing everything they can to make the cars slower, harder to drive, and less exciting to see. CART and IRL could have a better package than F1 cars in 2 years time! They've shot themselves in the dickhole this time round and I do hope the breakaway series starts in 2007.

[DMbaseball1604]

This is retarted...F1 is going to turn out like NASCAR..slow and boring with no technology

[gucom]

i htink that F1 will not last very long this way...expect it to be dead in 10 years' time...unless they realise how stupid these plans are.