Sooooo. What do you think about 600hp+ Corvette Blue Devil?

[HeilSvenska]

It's known to be in the works, the Blue Devil. It's supposed to rival the Ford GT...even in price. Supposedly it will have 625hp, give or take.

I think it's a swell idea. If Ford can sell $100000 car, why not chevy? and that name...Blue Devil...

[graywolf624]

I say no.. for the same reason I don't think ford should be making the gt. They both need to fix other problems. Traditionally the super car market has not been one that was great from a company financial standpoint.

[FerrariFerrari]

A Ford GT competitor made by chevy sounds good but I'm not
so sure that using the Corvette name on it is such a good idea.
The corvette name is without a doubt legendary but it's not really
connected with exclusive cars, I think the Blue Devil should have
a name all to it's self like.....well......how does just plain Chevy
Blue Devil sound. 8)

Traditionally the super car market has not been one that was great from a company financial standpoint.
I don't think Chevy and Ford will have any trouble making money
on these super cars. :D

[sentra_dude]

The name 'Blue Devil' seems kind of hokey to me, but it sounds like a design codename they would use before coming up with a real name. The idea seems kind of far-fetched to me. Blue Devil...referring to Ford's blue oval...? lol

I don't think Chevy would sell many ~$130,000 Corvettes (same price range as Ford GT) no matter how fast they were. Fact is there probably aren't many people willing to pay that much for a Corvette, it is a pretty common car...not something you could imagine paying 130K for, even if it was hugely fast.

I'm sure Chevy would have no problem making the 'Vette fast enough for much less than 130K...they already have 6.0L to work with. My guess is the C6 Z06 (or whatever equivalent 'Z06' model Chevy comes out with for the C6) will be fast enough to at least keep up with the GT. Take a look at the present Z06, it has 'only' 405hp, compared to the GT's 550+hp and it is really not that much slower (except in topspeed), with the base C6 putting out 400hp, the Z06 will probably push at least 500hp, which should be enough to handle the GT :).

If not...they can always make the engine bigger if they need more power ;).

[Erez]

are you comparing a vetter to the Ford GT?
you cant do that even if the vette has 700HP.. thats like those dumb Car&Driver guys comparing the vette to the enzo... thats just idiotic...

[sentra_dude]

are you comparing a vetter to the Ford GT?
you cant do that even if the vette has 700HP.. thats like those dumb Car&Driver guys comparing the vette to the enzo... thats just idiotic...

Yes, I'm comparing them...so now I am dumb, great.

Take a look at stats then: (of course the Ford GT stats are not final, because the times were aquired with a 'pre-production' model, but anyway)
.............Z06.....GT
0-60:.....3.9.....3.8
0-100:...8.9.....8.8
1/4mi:...12.0...12.2
topspd:174....~200
skidpad:1.01g...99g
slalom:..67.6...69.5
60-0:....108ft...117ft
mpg:.....19/28..14/21

note: Admittedly, the GT's times are slow, because they are Road & Track times & pre-production, but I would assume there won't be much difference in hp between the two versions. The Z06 times are quick because people have had more time to find the best way to launch the car, and mastered shift points, etc (one owner has achieved 11.95sec 1/4mi, with a completely stock Z06).

So looking at the stats you can see the cars are closer than you might think in terms of performance. Don't take this the wrong way, I still think the GT is the far superior car, and better performance will come with production versions, but I don't think its stupid/idiotic/retarded to compare the two, even considering the category, sophistication, & desirability advantages the GT enjoys over the Z06.

[graywolf624]

I don't think Chevy would sell many ~$130,000 Corvettes (same price range as Ford GT) no matter how fast they were. Fact is there probably aren't many people willing to pay that much for a Corvette, it is a pretty common car...not something you could imagine paying 130K for, even if it was hugely fast.

I disagree. Those 2002 zl1 camaros (all 69 of them) sold for 90000. People snatched them up and their value almost doubled over nite(supply and demand).
Furthermore those 50s corvettes are worth in the 6 figures.

[Vansquish]

Ford IS losing money on every GT they make....the idea is not so much to profit from the cars themselves in the case of the GT...but to profit by the use of new technologies and new production techniques as well as (perhaps most importantly) the fact that the GT is what Ford insiders call a "Halo car". By this they mean that the GT casts a good light on the rest of the product ranges at Ford and will increase public interest in them. Thus the GT is basically a PR stunt to attract more buyers...hopefully it'll work :-D

[Erez]

Yes, I'm comparing them...so now I am dumb, great.

Take a look at stats then: (of course the Ford GT stats are not final, because the times were aquired with a 'pre-production' model, but anyway)
.............Z06.....GT
0-60:.....3.9.....3.8
0-100:...8.9.....8.8
1/4mi:...12.0...12.2
topspd:174....~200
skidpad:1.01g...99g
slalom:..67.6...69.5
60-0:....108ft...117ft
mpg:.....19/28..14/21

note: Admittedly, the GT's times are slow, because they are Road & Track times & pre-production, but I would assume there won't be much difference in hp between the two versions. The Z06 times are quick because people have had more time to find the best way to launch the car, and mastered shift points, etc (one owner has achieved 11.95sec 1/4mi, with a completely stock Z06).

So looking at the stats you can see the cars are closer than you might think in terms of performance. Don't take this the wrong way, I still think the GT is the far superior car, and better performance will come with production versions, but I don't think its stupid/idiotic/retarded to compare the two, even considering the category, sophistication, & desirability advantages the GT enjoys over the Z06.


dude i'm not calling you dumb.. i was talking about the Car&Driver ppl..
i'm just saying you can look at cars like the GT just by numbers.. cause there are lots of tuned fast cars... from the twin-turbos vette's to supras.. but they are just not in the GT, 360, 996 Turbo.. (etc) category.. that it.. but maybe it just me.. and maybe you and others dont think so.. its your right..

and its not that i dont like the vette.. cause i do! i really do.. but giving the choice... i would take the Ford GT in a sec!

no harm feelings? :oops:

[graywolf624]

Ford IS losing money on every GT they make....the idea is not so much to profit from the cars themselves in the case of the GT...but to profit by the use of new technologies and new production techniques as well as (perhaps most importantly) the fact that the GT is what Ford insiders call a "Halo car". By this they mean that the GT casts a good light on the rest of the product ranges at Ford and will increase public interest in them. Thus the GT is basically a PR stunt to attract more buyers...hopefully it'll work

Yeah I know. I don't think it will work. I think gm and dodge have the better idea. That is pump up their regular cars with better versions(cts-v, gto, neon, ect).
In this way they increase the attention to individual models in addition to the marque.

[Erez]

IMO its not just the performance... cause the 427 twin turbo Lingenfelter vette does 0-60 in 1.8 sec... fastest in the world.. but thats not what i was talking about...

[Vansquish]

I'm still hopeful...the next SVT Focus is supposed to be a turboed version with something on the order of 220bhp stock...so pretty much a competitor for the SRT-4...and the Mustang of course has the Cobra version and there are some mildly warm versions of other vehicles in the Ford stables....but I still think they need proper halo cars in each segment of the market.

[Tomerville]

I think it's a swell idea. If Ford can sell $100000 car, why not chevy? and that name...Blue Devil...

because chevy doesn't have the international racing recognition that ford built for itself in the '60s.

[RC45]

I don't think Chevy would sell many ~$130,000 Corvettes (same price range as Ford GT) no matter how fast they were. Fact is there probably aren't many people willing to pay that much for a Corvette, it is a pretty common car...not something you could imagine paying 130K for, even if it was hugely fast.

Actually, in the current climate if they made a few hundred $130,000 Corvettes, they would sell every single one - witness the number of Corvettes that have had $40,000, $50,000 and more of modes done at LPE, MTI etc.

This isn't 1994, when GM struggled to sell the last few ZR1's.

But they better not wait too long....

[sentra_dude]

I don't think Chevy would sell many ~$130,000 Corvettes (same price range as Ford GT) no matter how fast they were. Fact is there probably aren't many people willing to pay that much for a Corvette, it is a pretty common car...not something you could imagine paying 130K for, even if it was hugely fast.

I disagree. Those 2002 zl1 camaros (all 69 of them) sold for 90000. People snatched them up and their value almost doubled over nite(supply and demand).
Furthermore those 50s corvettes are worth in the 6 figures.

Yes, I am aware of those cars, but those ‘02 Camaros are very limited edition ‘collector’ cars, people pay that much because they hope they will be able to turn around and sell them for even more, and 50’s Corvette’s don’t count, we are talking about new cars here ;) (there are many classics that are worth many times there original sell price…)



dude i'm not calling you dumb.. i was talking about the Car&Driver ppl..
i'm just saying you can look at cars like the GT just by numbers.. cause there are lots of tuned fast cars... from the twin-turbos vette's to supras.. but they are just not in the GT, 360, 996 Turbo.. (etc) category.. that it.. but maybe it just me.. and maybe you and others dont think so.. its your right..

and its not that i dont like the vette.. cause i do! i really do.. but giving the choice... i would take the Ford GT in a sec!

no harm feelings? :oops:

No harm feelings…

Yes, I agree totally; but I did say:
I still think the GT is the far superior car
Of course I would take the GT in a heartbeat, but I still think the Z06 provides a pretty decent challenge to the GT, and the C6 Z06 will undoubtedly be more potent than the C5 version, so Ford may have something to worry about from Chevy. My point was not to say that tuned up cars are better than cars like the GT, just that the Z06 can compete in terms of performance...however I am definitely with you that true exotics are better than tuned sports cars.


Ford IS losing money on every GT they make....the idea is not so much to profit from the cars themselves in the case of the GT...but to profit by the use of new technologies and new production techniques as well as (perhaps most importantly) the fact that the GT is what Ford insiders call a "Halo car". By this they mean that the GT casts a good light on the rest of the product ranges at Ford and will increase public interest in them. Thus the GT is basically a PR stunt to attract more buyers...hopefully it'll work

Yeah I know. I don't think it will work. I think gm and dodge have the better idea. That is pump up their regular cars with better versions(cts-v, gto, neon, ect).
In this way they increase the attention to individual models in addition to the marque.

I disagree…I think the right approach (or maybe, just more fun approach ;)) is to make a badass supercar to draw attention to the company. Just look at how much attention Ford is getting in the press for the GT, tons! Pumped up versions of standard cars are nice, but they will always be just a pumped up version, and they will never draw the excitement of a supercar. However, who knows if the GT will pan out financially for Ford, I think it will; it seems to have brought a lot of good attention to Ford, but you never know.

[graywolf624]

"because chevy doesn't have the international racing recognition that ford built for itself in the '60s.
"
No, instead they have more recent international racing recognition with the corvette name. Lemans, Nascar-which is sadly more popular in the US then anything else, IROC, american lemans (which Im watching at the moment), many others.

As much as I hate nascar, if I had the choice in the us of which series to run a car in to push my car to american buyers.. that would be the choice.


rd, I think it will; it seems to have brought a lot of good attention to Ford, but you never know.

I disagree here too. Most people outside of the car enthusiast groups don't even know what the gt40 is. The car enthusiast is a niche market sadly. As clarkson said in his review... people asked if it was a ferrari. :roll:

[sentra_dude]

^^^Ahh, yes...possibly so. I guess I have a pretty narrow view of some things, most of the people I hang out with are car types, and they all know about the GT, so I just assumed everyone knows about it ;)...

I should realize many people don't know about great cars like the GT, and sadly they probably don't even care...:(

[graywolf624]

Yeah.. The pumped up regular cars only work because people can afford them.

You push them to test drive the top of the line version.. Then when they can't afford it you get them in the lower version. Bait and switch...

[nthfinity]

i always enjoy reading graywolf's replys, as they are well thought out...

i have joined this discussion late, and was going to write some of the replies he aformentioned... but thats ok he beat me to it :wink:

i do, however, disagree somewhat with these replies. it is true that all of the "big 3" are having very dificult finacial dificulties, we have several members who's parents are working with the various manufacturers... at least my father (ford) and vanquish's parents (daimler chrysler, and gm?) if i recall correctly, Vanquish's mom has mapped the new Hemi, and is still disapointed with the engineering and lack of development before production in several of the new models.

a year ago, my father was describing various problems primarily in the ford freestar, Lincoln LS, and Thunderbird which he was disapointed with the problems, and lack of organization with some of the groups he was working within, namely the Freestar, Lincoln LS, and Thunderbird. Since August/September, he has been generally pleased with the system that has taken such a long time to get... in order, or understood... perhaps even honed somewhat in the process. some of it, coming directly from the Mazda devision as far as engineers working much closer to the line, and more involved in the problem solving. there are still changes in progress, but i get that he has a feel that Ford is heading closer towared profits again.

I am all for the " blue devil" idea... but expensive vettes have posed problems in the past, as only 300-400 ZR-1 examples were made in 1995 with the 70,000$ usd pricetag. but, i firmly believe this is the best vette yet...and i wish i could see a z06 body/tube frame? with this motor in it.... :-D i am a firm believer in capitolist competition between manufacturers by having performance wars!!!

from what i understand so far with the" baid and switch" for the CTS-V is that every example i can find within 200+miles is already sold :) Ford doesnt yet have a competitor in this market beyond volvo's 300hp I-5 t, and the 390hp 3.9 Jag... i can only hope, but i havent yet heard anything.

is there nearly as much success as the C5 racecar in any of the non F1 ect/nascar? :)

the GT is a halo car in many ways, and i am totally glad that Ford had the balls, and $$ to put a production car out for the masses to fall in love with, as i most definately have.


Take a look at stats then: (of course the Ford GT stats are not final, because the times were aquired with a 'pre-production' model, but anyway)
.............Z06.....GT.......RT zo6
0-60:.....3.9.....3.8 .......4.4
0-100:...8.9.....8.8 .......9.6
1/4mi:...12.0...12.2 ....12.7
topspd:174....~200 .....171
skidpad:1.01g...99g ..... .94g
slalom:..67.6...69.5 ..... 68.5
60-0:....108ft...117ft ......107
mpg:.....19/28..14/21


your numbers arent a compareson within the same magazine, which is even harder to compare agaisnt differnt track surfaces, and situation of the car...
so i adjusted the 3rd set of # within Road and Track's data section... and yes, the differences are vast... expectable...... dont get me wrong, i love the Z06 :)

as far as people knowing about the gt..... within my school, and people i meet.. .they are liking the gt more and more as they see it more, and hear more about it. a lot of these peeps are not gear heads... but they are young, wich makes them children of potential buyers

[Vansquish]

Good response nthfinity, you had me right except for the fact that my dad just retired from working for Ford for 30 years, and that my mom is a contractor, so she moves from company to company depending on where the work is. Lately she's been doing engine management for DCX vehicles, but prior to that she was doing GM.

I hope Ford is on the recovery path, but when I talk to my dad (he is still on the inside as far as information is concerned, he has lots of buddies that he talks to regularly), about it he generally has pretty dour news. All the same, I agree with the idea of the Halo car in principle, but I think a sort of balanced approach is necessary in order to attract the greatest number of buyers, it would go something like this:

1. Make at least 1 GT for every major Ford showroom in the US and do not allow the dealers to sell it until it has been there for some predetermined amount of time.

2. By having it on display every buyer that comes into the showroom and every kid who drives by and sees it in the window will stop and drool.

3. a) After they realize the coolness of the car they'll turn around and see the rest of the showroom which is filled with high-end models of the rest of the Ford product range.
b) Those high-end models have to be balanced as well...an SRT-4/WRX competitor from the Focus platform (perhaps an American version of the RS), a hi-po 500 to compete with the Magnum and 300C (the 500 definetely needs a restyling in order to do this), the iconic pony car in high output trim of course, a replacement Thunderbird perhaps?

Anyway, I don't take much stock in the theory of trickle-down economics, even as it applies to car sales...so my hope is that Ford won't depend solely on the GT to boost sales (it doesn't appear to be doing that so I'm happy at the moment hehe), even though I'm sure it will have an impact.

[graywolf624]

i always enjoy reading graywolf's replys, as they are well thought out...

Thank you:)


I am all for the " blue devil" idea... but expensive vettes have posed problems in the past, as only 300-400 ZR-1 examples were made in 1995 with the 70,000$ usd pricetag. but, i firmly believe this is the best vette yet...and i wish i could see a z06 body/tube frame? with this motor in it.... i am a firm believer in capitolist competition between manufacturers by having performance wars!!!

Then again, they easily sold the homeglation versions of the c5r. (If I recall there were 100 of them). Furtheremore, the zr-1 was released during a different economic time period. I realize these are limited edition cars, but the gt40 isn't going to be selling huge numbers.

s there nearly as much success as the C5 racecar in any of the non F1 ect/nascar?

I know the same people tend to win(from a friend of mine), but I have no clue what cars these are(beyond that they are generally gm or ford and are recognizable body wise as their counterparts). I've never watched a nascar race, and don't plan too.

Don't get me wrong, I love supercars as much as the next guy. However, that being said I don't see much movement in terms of performance by ford on the rest of their line which could be a big mistake. (with the exception of maybe the mazdaspeed miata. The mustang might have some potential here too, but it remains to be seen if it will be evolutionary or revolutionary over the existing car.) They need special performance versions of the focus and taurus. The gt40 isn't really going to help any of the other name plates. You would be suprised how many people don't know what companies ford owns (Some of them are obvious. Mazda, lincoln, mercury. Some of them people just don't know: jag, aston martin, volvo, land rover).

[Vansquish]

So we agree then, we need to have specialized performane models for each of the main product lines at Ford! Let's start a petition hehe.

There is the Mazdaspeed Miata and the MS Protege as well, and I've heard that sometime this year or next we're supposed to get a MS Mazda 6S as well. Of course Jaguar has its R-versions, Lincoln....well...Lincoln probably just needs a luxo-convertible, not a performance car except for a revised version of the LS with the S-type R's engine, Mercury had the Marauder (blech), and they displayed a nice-looking concept called the Messenger a couple of years ago...maybe they'll do a new Cougar or something based on the Mustang platform, Volvo has it's R-models, but they're pretty lukewarm, Aston is all about luxury and performance, so I'm not worried about them, and LR doesn't really need the performance image, though it couldn't hurt I suppose. I do realize however that most of the people with whom I converse on a daily basis here at Umich don't realize the breadth of companies under Ford's leadership and financial umbrella, and many certainly don't know about the GT and those that do seem to only know it from the NAIAS. Anyway, unfortunately the great majority of the "performance" versions of Ford-umbrella vehicles are not that distinct from their humble origins...that needs to change. You are absolutely correct about the GT not helping the other nameplates, but hopefully it'll do something for Ford itself. Only time will tell...

[RC45]

Then again, they easily sold the homeglation versions of the c5r. (If I recall there were 100 of them).

Hhhmm.. here I thought they only ever built "one extra" prototype which reportedly sold at a Barret-Jackson auction... if you have informaiton about these 100 C5R's - please share.. ;)


Don't get me wrong, I love supercars as much as the next guy. However, that being said I don't see much movement in terms of performance by ford on the rest of their line which could be a big mistake. (with the exception of maybe the mazdaspeed miata. The mustang might have some potential here too, but it remains to be seen if it will be evolutionary or revolutionary over the existing car.) They need special performance versions of the focus and taurus.

Without a "signature engine" lineage - like the Small Block Chevy - Ford will always play second fiddle as they keep making "expensive Mustangs" - which over the years have had various "re-invented versions of the "Ford V-8" over the years.

Seems everybody except Ford, knows how to take their engines and build great cars around them... :roll:

Sure, now they have the "new GT40" - but what exactly has Ford got for the regular working guy? GM have the Corvette that can stand toe-to-toe with the worlds best... and Ford has? nada... zilch... zippo...


The gt40 isn't really going to help any of the other name plates.

That's true.


You would be suprised how many people don't know what companies ford owns (Some of them are obvious. Mazda, lincoln, mercury. Some of them people just don't know: jag, aston martin, volvo, land rover).
They probably prefer it that way - imagine how "cheated" the public would feel if they really knew the Volvo they just bought was simply another Ford engined box... ;)

The sad reality is that Ford will have to buy someone like Koeniggsegg and put their Bue Oval of "doom, gloom and boredom" on it - and that still wouldn't address the fact that Ford has yet to produce a regular model, affordable car that can go up against the worlds best.

[nthfinity]

in a great many ways i agree that there needs to be much more stock in the blue oval's fitting regular cars to have extraordinary numbers. DC has benz to thank for the upcoming supercharged AMG crossfire, which to me looks like a hit if its the right price.

one thing that GM doesnt have is the mustang priced V8 glory anymore. the GTO is comparable to the Cobra in price... yes, the corvette is absolutly amazing what it can do at the cost of what it is. however, in the past with the ZR-1, it was in teh 70,000 $USD range... as well as the previous vipers. i dont like that the Ford GT isnt in that price range, as i think it would be more reasonable... when (if) the cobra concept no longer is a concept, its expected sticker tag is 90,000$ USD...

as far as Ford GT's not selling well, from what i ve been hearing around ford is that they have more then enough buyers itching for the new ferrari hunter/killer. time will tell for sure tho.

a new performance version of the focus SVT is set for 2006, likely to be the RS badge carry-over (i honestly believe for this to be a success, it needs AWD)

i completely agree that there needs to be a new SHO... the everyman's invisible to radar sports car. my brother owns a 95 sho, and loves it for that reason.

[graywolf624]

Hhhmm.. here I thought they only ever built "one extra" prototype which reportedly sold at a Barret-Jackson auction... if you have informaiton about these 100 C5R's - please share..

This is the only link I could dredge up. That being said I know their was quite a few more then the 5 discussed in the article. (I've read other articles and discussed this with gm execs before.) The cars still are for racing only. As I said I don't remember official numbers. I can ask next month if you want. I should see my gm executive friend then.



http://www.c5registry.com/Special/c5-rforsale.htm

[RC45]

Hhhmm.. here I thought they only ever built "one extra" prototype which reportedly sold at a Barret-Jackson auction... if you have informaiton about these 100 C5R's - please share..

This is the only link I could dredge up. That being said I know their was quite a few more then the 5 discussed in the article. (I've read other articles and discussed this with gm execs before.) The cars still are for racing only. As I said I don't remember official numbers. I can ask next month if you want. I should see my gm executive friend then.



http://www.c5registry.com/Special/c5-rforsale.htm

Thats a 2000-vintage article - that's the reason I was ;)'ing - "customer cars" is just like the handful of F333SP's sold to race - doesn't make them street cars. Except for prototypes and such, the only C5R's are the ones you see racing. (currently and retured)

It's not like the CLK-GTR Benz that AMG/MB builds and sells. The "road going" C5R never materialized - as the formula never required it. Just as the Pro-Drive F550 is based off the road going F550 and now 575, the C5R is based off the road going C5 - neither has a "full race street version".

Had the racing series required that the C5R be a road car you may have seen them.

[graywolf624]

Thats a 2000-vintage article - that's the reason I was 'ing - "customer cars" is just like the handful of F333SP's sold to race - doesn't make them street cars. Except for prototypes and such, the only C5R's are the ones you see racing. (currently and retured)

No one ever said road going.
:wink:
If I recall these cars sold for 120000. So basically if I had that type of money, I could be road racing a c5r:) They had some minor differences from the gm owned cars.

[novass]

I was talking to my father this weekend and he mentioned that one of the attorneys in his office has a client that owns a C5R and lives in my hometown (where my parents still live) and im very close too. Im gonna try and meet up with the guy just to get some photos and maybe some clips of it revving. Dont give me any pics or stfu business, im working on it.

[RC45]

A bunch of people have C5R engined street cars. The C5R block is the basis for most good 422/427/434ci C5's.

[graywolf624]

A bunch of people have C5R engined street cars. The C5R block is the basis for most good 422/427/434ci C5's.

There in some camaros too. This I know. The engine costs around 28000 though. Definitly not my price range. But anyway, we were talking about limited edition corvettes that sold. No one mentioned street legal.

[RC45]

A bunch of people have C5R engined street cars. The C5R block is the basis for most good 422/427/434ci C5's.

There in some camaros too. This I know. The engine costs around 28000 though. Definitly not my price range. But anyway, we were talking about limited edition corvettes that sold. No one mentioned street legal.

Sure.. ;)

[graywolf624]

Sure..

I priced it all out. It helps to know the guys at gmmg. (they use a variation of the c5-r block which isn't the same as the one gm will sell you). Actually I got my extra wheels from gmmg. I have the stock wheels off of zl1 super car chasis number 32. It is a great place to pick up camaro ss takeoffs. Kind of ironic. I know most of the big players in the auto market who do things around atlanta, but I couldn't even find you a speed shop in philadelphia(which is where I am at the moment).

[ludwig14]

any one have pix or any idea if the body is on the 04 or the 05 chassi

[graywolf624]

any one have pix or any idea if the body is on the 04 or the 05 chassi

It is juat a rumour. That being said it would be on the c6 chasis if it were made.

[RC45]

any one have pix or any idea if the body is on the 04 or the 05 chassi

It is juat a rumour. That being said it would be on the c6 chasis if it were made.

..and not the C6 Coupe chassis either - the much rumoured aluminium C6 Z06 chassis would be the minimum starting point...

[SilverPhoenix]

"because chevy doesn't have the international racing recognition that ford built for itself in the '60s.
"
No, instead they have more recent international racing recognition with the corvette name. Lemans, Nascar-which is sadly more popular in the US then anything else, IROC, american lemans (which Im watching at the moment), many others.

As much as I hate nascar, if I had the choice in the us of which series to run a car in to push my car to american buyers.. that would be the choice.


rd, I think it will; it seems to have brought a lot of good attention to Ford, but you never know.

I disagree here too. Most people outside of the car enthusiast groups don't even know what the gt40 is. The car enthusiast is a niche market sadly. As clarkson said in his review... people asked if it was a ferrari. :roll:


yup C5-R took sebring, CTS-V Destroyed its class and is now being heavily restricted, revs down 500RPM, air intake 30% smaller, 200LB weight, some other things 2.

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I don't think Chevy would sell many ~$130,000 Corvettes (same price range as Ford GT) no matter how fast they were. Fact is there probably aren't many people willing to pay that much for a Corvette, it is a pretty common car...not something you could imagine paying 130K for, even if it was hugely fast.

Lol how you think folks like callaway have stayed in business for so long, if there was no money in it people would have stoped long ago, but its like RC said earlier, the vette is an auto that an average man could afford, and it can compete with the worlds supercars.[/quote]