Next RS6 is to have a Lambo engine

[Toronto]

Just read about it, don't know if you guys know or not, it is supposed to have the v-10 from the Gallardo, but it is to be de-tuned, but i don't think if the new m5 will but out 500hp then the RS6 should put out the same. they will also offer a S6 that will have the v-8 from the A8 i belive.

[TT]

Yes it was written in many magazine and websites already.. of course sounds interesting, but every time I hear about this rush toward the 1000 hp into saloons and 500 into hot hatches, I'm someway scared...

[nthfinity]

naturally aspirated RS6?!! i dont see a problem with sharing superb engines within an auto group..... just look at the viper engine in the truck (if you like friggin fast trucks) and the 330 cid truck engine in the Ford GT :-D

[bmagni]

never heard bout it but wouldnt surprise me, they cant beat bmw !!!!

[PATo355]

Put the Engine of the Gallardo without detuning , then a badge in the back , "powered by lamborghini" , that will sell a lot of copies of the car , i remember a lancia who had a 3.2 Liter Ferrari engine from the 328 i guess

[Toronto]

Put the Engine of the Gallardo without detuning , then a badge in the back , "powered by lamborghini" , that will sell a lot of copies of the car , i remember a lancia who had a 3.2 Liter Ferrari engine from the 328 i guess

Lancia has taken engines from ferrari for years, starting way back form the Dino v-6

[jasc]

just look at the viper engine in the truck (if you like friggin fast trucks)
The Viper engine originally came from the truck; I just see it as things coming full circle. :wink:

[Evo]

Yes it was written in many magazine and websites already.. of course sounds interesting, but every time I hear about this rush toward the 1000 hp into saloons and 500 into hot hatches, I'm someway scared...

couple of more years and you will see a beetle with a 1000 HP which is road legal.. :wink: :D

[Porsche_Cayenne]

I read that new RS6 will have 499 HP with V-10 of Gallardo, right...
That's impressive... the sound will be incredible :twisted:

. . . anyway I'd rather an M5

[FerrariFerrari]

I personaly am not quite sure why they have to put a V10
in the RS6. What's wrong with the current engine, I heard
it was a dream to use. Besides, though I don't know for sure,
I have heard that V10 will be a lot hevier and I heard
that it will also have a heavier transmition, isn't that kind of
going to cancel out the horsepower increase? And they are
trying to improve the front heavy weight balance, putting a
heavier engine and transmition in the car is not going to help
that, Even if they are going to be back further due to the
longitudinal mounting of the transmision.


couple of more years and you will see a beetle with a 1000 HP which is road legal.. :wink: :D
HPA Motorsport already makes a VW Beetle with 500HP.
It does 0-60 in 3.2 second. They say it does great with
500HP, :? I personaly couldn't imagine that. :wink:

[racer_f50]

couple of more years and you will see a beetle with a 1000 HP which is road legal.. :wink: :D
HPA Motorsport already makes a VW Beetle with 500HP.
It does 0-60 in 3.2 second. They say it does great with
500HP, :? I personaly couldn't imagine that. :wink:

makes no difference how the fast the Beetle is in the end, though, cuz its ugly and shit :lol: same reason the Cayenne is hated upon, its a very capable vehicle, but its ugly.

[jj23]

I've also read that the new RS6 will have a biturbo V8 again with around 500 hp, which would seem likely considering if you chip the current model, power bumps up to about 500. If they put in the Gallardo V10 and detune it like everyone is speculating... it won't be any more powerful than the current model. If they do leave the biturbo V8 behind i sure hope they don't detune the v10! And if they don't...... :twisted:

[Toronto]

I've also read that the new RS6 will have a biturbo V8 again with around 500 hp, which would seem likely considering if you chip the current model, power bumps up to about 500. If they put in the Gallardo V10 and detune it like everyone is speculating... it won't be any more powerful than the current model. If they do leave the biturbo V8 behind i sure hope they don't detune the v10! And if they don't...... :twisted:

well i think they might be moving away from turbos right now, the new supercar won't have them, as well as the A8 doesn't have it nore did the new the RS4. but the good thing about the v-10 no lag :D, and i think they won't de-tune it if bmw sticks with the rumors of 500-510hp from the new m5 unit, the bmw is lighter so the RS6 might get the full 500 mayb even more

[FerrariFerrari]

well i think they might be moving away from turbos right now, the new supercar won't have them, as well as the A8 doesn't have it nore did the new the RS4. but the good thing about the v-10 no lag , and i think they won't de-tune it if bmw sticks with the rumors of 500-510hp from the new m5 unit, the bmw is lighter so the RS6 might get the full 500 mayb even more
I think that they could get 500 HP out of the V8 without
turbocharging. And even if they did have to use turbos,
these days technology has improved turbo lag to the
point that it almost doesn't exist anymore. Don't get me
wrong, I don't have anything against them puting a V10
in it, I just don't see the reason for it. But anyways, my
argument probably breaks down somewheres. :wink:

[FerrariFerrari]

Audi shouldnt compete with lambo and ferrari.
Why shouldn't they? :? I get a little confused when I
here things like this. I mean perhaps, Ferrari shouldn't
compete with Audi, that might cheapen its name, but
I don't see anything wrong with a company coming out
with a car that is a little above it's typical price range,
other than the fact that they may not sell enough to make
a profit, but that's their problem not mine.

[jj23]

Toronto, were you talking about the S4 not the RS4? I know the S4 is NA 4.2L V8. The RS4 should be comming around sometime in the next year or two. That definately looks like it's going to be turbocharged from what i've read. At this point it looks like it's between a biturbo V6 or the Biturbo V8 from the RS6. Considering how Audi had to Squeze the NA V8 into the S4, it seems like it would be pretty rough to fit it with turbos and intercoolers too. I'm kinda leaning toward the turbo V6. Either engine power is probably going to be 420hp - 450hp!!! :D

[possessed_beaver]

IMO doing that would be very very stupid because i have test results of a rs6 vs. a Gallardo, and the RS6 was FASTER to 100km/h and FASTER to 400m, that a @#&$ing lambo Gallardo !!!!!

so imo it would be pointless, if it is alredy faster.

but i guess audi spent alot of money designing the Gallardo engine, so they have to flogg it off in as many cars as possible

[yg60m]

As the Gallardo V10 is an Audi engine it's just a come back to the creator :wink:

[FerrariFerrari]

I dont think they shouldnt, but if they compete with ferrari they also compete with lambo. and because Audi owning lambo, and lambo being in that range they dont want to take customers away from lambo and put them in Audis. cuz Audi sell alot of cars anyway and dont need to sell alot of supercars to survive. but lambo got to do it to survive and thats why...

If I was in charge it would have the V10 with twin turbos and all the good stuff I could put into it.
I think that Lamborghini sells most of it's cars with it's
name. It's just like with former Rolls Royces and Bentleys,
they were technicaly inferior to the Mercedes S Class and
BMW 7 series but they still sold because of the fact that they
were status symbles.

[bmwfreak]

Lambo will makemoney due to increased efficiency, etc. BUt i dont know about a lambo engine being in the next RS6. It's liek Audi cant make themselves a challenger to BMW and Mercedes on their own merits and technical strength, and have to resort to all means possible to try and compete. a case of trying WAY too hard.

[Tomerville]

It should crush the M5, the only thing the M5 had going for it over the other super-saloons was its manual transmission. Now that it lost that, there is nothing. The Audi has the foot up with the DSG and its quatro AWD on the RS6

[bmwfreak]

It should crush the M5, the only thing the M5 had going for it over the other super-saloons was its manual transmission. Now that it lost that, there is nothing. The Audi has the foot up with the DSG and its quatro AWD on the RS6

Crush the M5? I dont know, but i doubt it. Steering feel, handling, driver involvement, cornering dynamics, throttle adjustability, heel 'n toe-ing, man-machine interaction? THe M5 will still have a manual box, the SMG system is just an option.

[Schwalbe]

It's sad that Audi Quattro GmbH decided to put atmospheric motor V8 in the future RS4 and a V10 atmospheric in the RS6. :(

I prefer turbo motors, because they have more torque and are easier to modify. :wink:

[jj23]

It's sad that Audi Quattro GmbH decided to put atmospheric motor V8 in the future RS4 and a V10 atmospheric in the RS6. :(

I prefer turbo motors, because they have more torque and are easier to modify. :wink:

You mean S4 not RS4? Cause everything i've heard about the upcomming RS4 is its going to be turbocharged

[Schwalbe]

You mean S4 not RS4? Cause everything i've heard about the upcomming RS4 is its going to be turbocharged


I speak of the RS4. I understand your skepticism jj23, especially if you looks at this news from Auto express in August 2003: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?video_gallery/video_gallery_story.php?id=39251

Despite this news, too much automobile journalist asserted that the next Audi RS4 will be a 4.2 V8 40v Naturally Aspirated - 420 bhp (Not confirmed by Audi Quattro GmbH). In addition, the future RS4 will be exposed at the Salon of Geneva, in March 2005.

If you want to read a little more on the debate on the new RS4 I suggest to you to look at this:
http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewforum&f=35

So if the future RS4 will be turbo, I will be the first happy one to have been mistaken. :D

[jj23]

SchSchwalbe JG 44.... thanks for the links. Interesting! Everyone was asserting that it would have a biturbo V8, and for those who thought they couldn't fit that engine in the car said it was going to be a biturbo V6 but looks like they are going NA. I love audi's turbo engines but their 4.2L V8 is a great engine! And tuning it to 420hp or more :D Should be an awesome engine.... except for those who were hoping to tune it like the previouse RS4.


what cars do BMW or MB got that Audi cant match, please tell me, so I can have a laugh.......

LOL... couldn't agree more brembo