Ferrari F50 GT #003 for sale...

[YellowMaranello]

http://tinyurl.com/2w6px


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[RC45]

Damn - I told them not to publish that info - it is supposed to be a private sale between me and Jabba...

Sorry Jabba - your new car house-warming "surprise" is out the bag now...

[Tomerville]

hahah...nice car! thats awsome. Isn't it true that during the production run of the F50s, you couldn't buy one, but only lease one?

[PATo355]

Nice rice style wing :)

http://www.classicdriver.com/upload/cars/1337/1700464/bigb.jpg

[RC45]

Nothing "ricer" about the whole package though... this is all show all go... ;)

http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/f50_fontana_start_final_rev2.wmv

http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/f50_fontana_part2_final_rev2.wmv

...you are welcome... ;)

[sikx5]

003.....is this the damaged one now all fixed? because one is in japan, the other is in australia. and the only one in america was in a accident is now in uk?

and there is nothing Ricer about this car....its a real race car

Im going to email the guy and ask for hi-res pics of that car.

[RC45]

Or the same place that has the videos I posted above...

http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/fontana_f50_into_trailer.jpg
http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/fontana_f50_chicane.jpg
http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/fontana_f50_garage_front.jpg
http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/fontana_f50_front_garage.jpg
http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/fontana_f50_f355.jpg
http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/fontana_f50_trailer_rear.jpg
http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/fontana_f50_hotpit2.jpg
http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/fontana_f50_hotpit3.jpg
http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/fontana_f50_garage_light2.jpg
http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/fontana_f50_trailer_front.jpg
http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/fontana_f50_trailer_2.jpg
http://www.nsxfiles.com/images/fontana_f50_in_trailer.jpg

:D

[DeMoN]

nice one RC thanx for the cool pix. Not my favorite ferrari (by far), but must be respected for its insane speed!

[yg60m]

Interested info, thanks. It's cool that even if produced at such a small number, a car comes to the market sometimes, it gives us hope :lol: I would be curious to know the price :?:

[RC45]

Some good information here...

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv?file=commentcomplete.mv&num=592

This post is very informative...


The F50 GT is a great car, no doubt. But let's not exaggerate its significance. First, to answer someone's question as to how it gets it's HP with a normal V12- well...I own a 333 SP prototype and it is documented at about 670 HP stock and that is with ONLY a 4.0 liter engine. So, a 4.7 liter can easily get that amount and more, given high RPMs. And to respond to another person regarding the statement about the F50GT out-performing the 333 SP, that is a press release statement which has NOT been verified by anyone outside Ferrari. Similarly, everyone thought that the F50 was faster than the F40 when it came out- but anyone who is involved in racing these cars and teams who develop them for club events know that car-for-car stock the F40 is a better track performer AND far easier to modify for serous racing. But, regarding the 333 and F50 GT, obviously a slightly bigger engine will deliver more HP given the same rpms but there are regulations for GT cars at Le Mans so that Teams can't just put any big powerplant in any car, and we have to consider these factors-

1) the 333 SP chassis is far more race-worthy than the GT in terms of stiffness, cornering, etc.

2) the 333 is 200lbs lighter than the GT. So, immediately that takes away from the GT's acceleration, speed, handling and breaking.

3) Most importantly, even if the F50GT was tested at 750hp, it doesn't matter because its GT1 class keeps cars at 600hp. So let's measure apples to apples. The 333 was tuned to well-over 700hp for shorter races in IMSA. So, if both cars are kept at the same power (about 700hp) the extra torque of the GT would be offset by the 200lbs extra weight of the GT too. At best, the F50GT would equal the 333, which in itself is awesome.

4) Finally, Ferrari realized that they produced this car TOO late. They knew that it would be fast (like the F40 LMs which were the FASTEST GT cars of the 95 Le Mans, ahead of the F1s- but broke down) BUT they also knew they had to put BIG money into developing it for Le Mans, which Ferrari hasn't done since 1972. The 333 SP was the fastest car (lap record) at the 96 Le Mans and still holds the record at Daytona- but no factory support which is key. Also, Ferrari knew that the F50 GT would probably not do well in its first year against the BIGGER 6.0 liter V12 engine '97 F1 Longtails and the newer very fast turbo Porsche GT1s. Further, the year the F50GT would be more prepped to win would be 1998- but Ferrari knew that the F50GT could not compete at all with the revised GT1 class which included the exotic winning GT1 Porsches, Toyota GT1s and the fastest CLKs (all of which were basically prototype cars). Hence it is the most probably explanation of the F50GT's retirement. There ya go.



and this one


F50 GT S/N 003 was the feature car at the RM Classic Car Auction at Scottsdale, Arizona, on January 23, 2000. With
standard F40's selling in the $250,000-300,000 range, and production F50's bringing $600,000-650,000, the F50 GT's
selling price of $1,430,000 had the Ferrari world buzzing.
The F50 GT is one of the great "what ifs" in Ferrari's history. The car was developed in late 1995-96 to be raced by
privateers in the 1997 BPR Global GT Championship series. Developed as a competition coupe version of the F50, the
F50 GT was meant to be a replacement for the F40 LM and its later variations, the F40 LM GTE, which had been a
relatively successful car in the (now defunct) BPR GT series. Two F50 GT's were to go to Scandia racing, two more to
Ferrari Club Italia which was going to run with Benetton sponsorship, and a fifth car was going to be supplied to
MomoCorsa. Other cars, if built, were to go to various European privateers.
While the street version F50 will go from 0-60 mph in 3.7 seconds, and has a top speed of 202 mph, the racing version
F50 GT will launch itself from 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds, and has a top speed of 235 mph. The normal engine in an F50
street car, designated the Tipo F130, is a de-tuned F1-type V12 engine expanded to 4.7 liters and rated at 513 hp at 8,500
rpm. The F50 GT engine is designated the Tipo F130A and develops a tire-shredding 750 hp at 10,500 rpm.
The official reasons for the cancellation of the F50 GT program in late 1996 were the high development costs and
Ferrari's need to focus on Formula 1. Rumors in the Ferrari world included a refusal by Ferrari to go head to head with
Porsche or Mercedes in GT racing, and/or that Bernie Ecclestone, head honcho of Formula 1, didn't want Ferrari diverting
its resources from F1, nor did Ecclestone want the Ferrari name in a rival racing series from which Bernie derived no profit.
(Strange how we find this latter reason so easily believable.-ED.)
As an aside, the BPR series, named after its organizers, Jurgen Barth (of the Porsche Factory) Patrick Peter (now
organizer of the Tour Auto) and Stephen Ratel (organizer of the Venturi and Lamborghini Challenge series) is now suing
Ecclestone. They claim he stole their series and replaced it with the new FIA GT series, conveniently controlled by the
aforementioned Mr. Ecclestone.
The owners of the first three F50's delivered have not been shy about showing off their hot-rod Ferraris. S/N 001 was
sold to Art Zafiropoulo, a California collector. This car arrived in the US on April 18, 1997 and was introduced to the
public at the Ferrari of North America-sponsored Rodeo Drive concours of April 19, 1997, held in Beverly Hills.
The second F50 built, S/N 002, was sold through Cornes, the Japanese Ferrari importer, to a Japanese collector,
Yoshikuni Okamoto. The third car, S/N 003, was sold through Ferrari of Beverly Hills to Jim Spiro in Louisiana. All were
sold in the $1,000,000 or "a little more" range.
It was S/N 003 that sold at the RM Auction in Scottsdale for $1,430,000 including premium and is now on its way to an
Australian collector. With over 350 F50's built, a 150% premium for an F50 GT, which is really just a race car without a
racing pedigree (think 288 GTO) seems absurd. Add in the knowledge that there are three tubs left at the factory waiting for
someone with the patience and checkbook to own S/Ns 004, 005 and 006 and the price seems even crazier.
On the other hand, in today's dot-com economy, where a private 757, a fifty-room mansion or ownership of a Major
League sports team doesn't buy exclusivity, an F50 GT, the latest and most potent Ferrari GT race car ever built, does
guarantee bragging rights in the club of young billionaires who are always looking for new ways to one-up their buddies.
And paying a $400,000 premium? That just means their stock will have to go up another fifty cents a share to make that
money back.

[RC45]

Here is some more accurate info...

http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/306072.html?1062042282

It seems the car that was wrecked, was not #003, but #001... :)

And #003 is the one that went from the US to Australia... and is now for sale in the UK.

See I told you in the first post I am selling my F50GT to Jabba... ;)

Here is a nice quote :

Dellara built five tubs, three were assembled and completed by Michelotto. Ferrari canceled the program when they learned that Porsche had circumvented the FIA's rules governing the construction of the race version vs production version. Simply put; Ferrari's converted race car was never going to be a serious opposition to Porsches purpose built race car. Trust me, I have had examples of both and raced / driven against each on the track.

001 went to Art.

002 went to Okamoto.

003 went to Spiro and then our auction company sold it to Peter Floyd.

It would be pure magic for the two remaining tubs to be completed as finished cars. Two years ago, Ferrari was forced in a lawsuit to destroy both remaining tubs. Details of which I am not at liberty to discuss.

Sufice to say the F50GT program is long over.

You did not hear it from me but we might see a privately entered hybred running at Le Mans next year that uses as it main structure an Enzo tub. The engine / gear box just might be from Maserati...

regards,

Bnoon

[yg60m]

Hum; 1.430.000 $, isn't it the price Jabba paid for his new house ? or almost.
The problem is that the F50 GT is much more confined :wink:

[nthfinity]

Brilliant. thanks for the links, RC 45, yellow maranello.....

man, that is the first time iver heard the F 50 gt's engines...... holy shit =D i can only dream of that now. mabey someday

[sikx5]

ahhhhhhhhhh i see 001 was crashed and 003 is no longer in australia. That sucks, i wanted to go see 003 at melbourne where it was on show, never knew it got sold

[mit5005]

Nice rice style wing


How can you say that? Ricers put those kinds of wings on their cars to try to make it look good. On this car it actually has a purpose. It shouldn't be compared to a rice burner.

[sikx5]

looks like they dont want to send me hi-res pics of that car. I will send another email 8)