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Fleischmann
03-29-2004, 05:35 PM
Pagani are planning to build a car, which will rival with the Lamborghini Gallardo. It will probably be fitted with a superchaerged V8 from the Sl55. The car will cost approximately 130000 quid and wll appear in 2006.


Don't place your deposit on a Gallardo just yet. For most of us, a Lamborghini in the garage is a distant dream, but anyone fortunate enough to be in the market for a compact supercar could soon be spoilt for choice.

Auto Express can reveal Pagani is planning to produce a baby Zonda, which will use Mercedes power in a bid to teach its Italian rival a thing or two about exotic performance. Talks are underway with the German firm's in-house tuner AMG about donating the supercharged V8 from the SL55 to the newcomer. The Zonda already uses a 7.3-litre version of AMG's V12 powerplant, tuned to produce 555bhp. In the new model, the smaller V8 is likely to provide at least 490bhp and a sub-4.5-second 0-60mph time.

As our exclusive images in this week's issue show, the car will be a more compact evolution of the Zonda's shape, with a far more muscular stance than the Lamborghini. What's more, it will lose some of the larger Pagani's outrageous styling, giving a cleaner look. It will still be easily recognisable, with the familiar shape of the glass area and bulging wheelarches complementing the drooping rear end and sharp nose. The design will be finished by two raised, centrally mounted tailpipes, which will no doubt emit a suitably sporty exhaust note.

The project is still in its early stages, so don't expect to see the baby Pagani on the road until 2006. With the full-size Zonda costing £350,000, the newcomer will make the exclusive marque far more accessible, with prices likely to start at around £130,000.


info taken from www..evo.co.uk

cho_888
03-29-2004, 05:39 PM
holly shit! this will be unreal. if its anything like the zonda it will be great. cant wait.

DeMoN
03-29-2004, 05:40 PM
its not only about performance though. IMO we need pics to see if this baby is worth it.

Chingachgook
03-29-2004, 05:43 PM
Wow impressive, but I hope for an N/A engine...even if I'm sure Pagani look a nd chassis will make me forget about the compressor

No.1
03-29-2004, 05:48 PM
nice story!

I saw this story in Auto Express UK, and it had a pic wid it. ALL it was was a photoshopped Gallardo. :wink:

It looked alright though...

HeilSvenska
03-29-2004, 06:54 PM
Oh dear lord...now this sector is overcrowded...100,000 euro cars are no longer pretigious...

and it would also be another Italian car with German heart...What now? Ferrari with Opel engine?

PATo355
03-29-2004, 06:59 PM
Incredible , but where are the pics ?

"As our exclusive images in this week's issue show, the car will be a more compact evolution of the Zonda's shape, with a far more muscular stance than the Lamborghini"

Anonymous
03-29-2004, 07:00 PM
Great find fleishcmann!! thankyou
When they build it i hope they keep the stacked exhausts it is undoubtebly the best looking car from the rear currently in production IMO.

http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v132/alsw123/zonda-from-back.jpg

opinions please!!

corvette97
03-29-2004, 07:38 PM
i believe is the best ass ever seen -on a car- really sexy

kteo2003
03-29-2004, 08:38 PM
has anybody of you seen this car in real steal....i have seen only one and it was the c112s but the older model and it was just great...i think that the zonda is one of the greatest supercars and i think that it will be a lot faster from that gallardo...anyway i think that there is a reason why pagani uses mercedes motors but i amnot sure..i think that one of his coorperates who died had something to do with merc and that is why...because also the zonda has a merc engine....

bmwfreak
03-29-2004, 09:47 PM
A baby Zonda? THat would certainly make that particular sector of the market..... intteresting. The Gallardo, the 360 replacement, a baby zonda. What next? I wonder if Aston Martin will make something. There's the AMV8, but that's priced to take on the 911.

Let's hope it doesnt turn into another SUV-esque scenario of one-upmanship, aye? Nex thing you know, Volvo will make a compact supercar as well, with their vaunted 'practicality' theme in mind. ("It even has space for your kids!")

The horror.

No.1
03-30-2004, 06:46 AM
Incredible , but where are the pics ?

"As our exclusive images in this week's issue show, the car will be a more compact evolution of the Zonda's shape, with a far more muscular stance than the Lamborghini"

As UK members will know, Evo is owned by Dennis Publishing that also owns the magazine Auto Express. The magazines are sisters and share information on their websites, and occaisionallly in their magazines.

There is one picture of the baby Pagani in this weeks edition of Auto Express, but (as i have written above, in a previous reply) it is just a photoshopped image of a Gallardo, with a few Pagani styling cues, such as a pointy nose, raise back end (a la Zonda).

Gnome
03-30-2004, 03:03 PM
Let's hope it doesnt turn into another SUV-esque scenario of one-upmanship, aye? Nex thing you know, Volvo will make a compact supercar as well, with their vaunted 'practicality' theme in mind. ("It even has space for your kids!")

The horror.
I don't think we need to worry about that. Everybody wants a piece of the SUV market because every American and every third European is dreaming of a big, ugly, bad handling SUV. And too many of them can afford them. Not that many people can afford a sportscar, so that segment is crowded enough as it is.

German engines in italian cars is fine. The problem is when the Germans gets involved in the rest of the car. I don't think that will happen in Pagani.

yg60m
03-30-2004, 03:19 PM
That's nice, Pagani is a small manufacturer but his products have very good reputation in both qualities and performances but, due to the small number of produced cars and the fact that no big manufacturer is behind him (Mercedes provide the engine but i don't think that they put money in .. ) their price is high.
I wait for more info on this "small" car, will it have a carbon fiber chassis ... because, then the price would increase i think.

pakos007
03-30-2004, 03:26 PM
the zonda ass is really cool,but i think it cant reach the porsche carrera gt one!check the laraki fulgura also and tell me thats not worth it...it is nice to see pagani go for a smaller car just like porsche and ferrari have,just like lambo and aston martin did...competition always raises the quality of the product...

this wave of photoshoped new cars is going more often...i think we shouldnt trust the pictures showing new cars nowadays...

No.1
03-30-2004, 04:00 PM
this wave of photoshoped new cars is going more often...i think we shouldnt trust the pictures showing new cars nowadays...

Very true. Nearly all the images in the news pages of car magazines have been edited on a computer, i think we should have a competition to create the new 3-Series, or another soon to be revealed car. :wink: ... just a thought...

sentra_dude
03-30-2004, 07:53 PM
Hmmm, I bet the boys in Maranello are really starting to sweat, all these interlopers (Gallardo, Ford GT, and now Pagani) into the market they had a strangle hold on a few years back... :lol:

bmwfreak
03-31-2004, 01:53 PM
Hmmm, I bet the boys in Maranello are really starting to sweat, all these interlopers (Gallardo, Ford GT, and now Pagani) into the market they had a strangle hold on a few years back... :lol:competition should raise the quality of products all around, aye?

Drive4Ever
04-01-2004, 01:49 AM
that should be interesting, as all of us know, the Zonda S are fast and i wouldnt even be surprised if the car will beat the Gallardo

enfermin
04-01-2004, 03:55 PM
did you know that the name "ZONDA" comes from a very strong wind of south america???
the wind comes down the mountain (the andes) and it has a devastating power...

No.1
04-01-2004, 06:59 PM
did you know that the name "ZONDA" comes from a very strong wind of south america???
the wind comes down the mountain (the andes) and it has a devastating power...

I didn't :D

Thanks for sharing that with us :D

nurbrun
04-08-2004, 09:28 PM
The Zonda is such a nice car. I hope the design aleast looks the same as it on this "Baby" one

gbg
04-10-2004, 07:18 PM
did you know that the name "ZONDA" comes from a very strong wind of south america???
the wind comes down the mountain (the andes) and it has a devastating power...

I didn't :D

Thanks for sharing that with us :D

in fact, pagani first named it "fangio", but he gave up the idea when fangio died

nthfinity
04-10-2004, 09:43 PM
hmm...... sounds like a german phrase i once learned in Munchen... but i only remember the english version...

if the kanoodle tastes bad, its the fern

i believe then that Fern = Zonda..... very interesting

i dont think Pagani Fern sounds very exciting... mabey in the mini class lol

No.1
04-11-2004, 04:17 PM
I thought this topic was supposed to be about the "Baby Pagani", not where the name came from.... :lol:

bmwfreak
04-11-2004, 09:26 PM
Horacio Pagani is Argentinian after all. (=