I need advice on what car i should get.

[mit5005]

I am tryin to decide between buying a 3rd generation RX-7 (93-95) or a new RX-8. I know there are pros and cons for each like price, warranty, reliability, performance, and stuff like that. I have a few months to decide and i wanna make the right decision. I want everybodys opinion and plz dont be biased.

[Sachmo12345]

are you only going for a mazda

[mit5005]

Yea i only want a rotary. I have a mustang that im workin on so now i want something different. The RX's are the only 2 im deciding between.

[Zonda11]

MY buddy has a 1993 Rx-7 and its a really fun car. I think its good looking and makes a great sound with his new exhaust.

[veteq]

Get the RX8, the RX7 is notorious for turbo and engine problems . The car tend to run hot.
Do a search on google and you will find that some owners of the RX7 have gone through several engines. the RX7 is a great looking car with very weak engine.

just my two cents


Veteq

[enigmatic]

if you can afford it, i'd go for a new car.
atleast you know you wont have to spend money on it when things go wrong (which the will, in an old rx7!).

[stracing]

i just hope you don't dedide to put in a ford v8 in one of them one day

[Kangaroo Boy]

Yeah,get the rotary,..They are very nice

[hemi_fan]

I personally would suggest an older RX7, but they do have many engine problems. That is the main reason Im not really considering them as my first car, (older than 93' of course), but the 93' upwards would still have the same problems I imagine, so id go for the RX8.

[FerrariFerrari]

The 3rd generation RX7 is very nice, they go fast, handle well, and look good.
But as many have already stated they aren't known for good reliability. And
when they break down you'll have a hard time finding a machanic that can work
on it and once you find a machanic you'll find that the repaires quite high. In
my opinion the hardships way outway the pleasures of driving one so you're
probably better of getting a new RX8 which will in my opinion give you at least
%90 of the RX7 and will be much more reliable.

[zr2man99]

i just hope you don't dedide to put in a ford v8 in one of them one day

Yea, Ford sucks. Put a Chevy small block engine in it. It will be much better.

[mit5005]

Well I like the RX-7 because it performs a little better, there arent that many around like RX-8s, and because its a little cheaper. And if i wanted to make any mods to the engine, i wouldnt have to worry about losing my warranty cause there is none. But on the other hand, the RX-8 has warranty, will have less problems, seats 4 people, has better gas mileage, and is brang new. Its goin to be a hard decision to make. I have some time to think it over though. Thx for ur opinions guys.

[Tomerville]

Id say the RX-7, they are beautiful, fast, and they are very flexible. The only problem is that they are known to self detonate, and thats why they stopped importing them. I am not fond of the RX-8 because of its appearance, lack of power and so forth. Wait until the Mazdaspeed RX-8 is released sometime next year...pix coming soon!

[mit5005]

Does anybody know about the rumors that a new RX-7 is comin out next year? If so i would really like to see some pics. Thx

[Zonda11]

Well I like the RX-7 because it performs a little better, there arent that many around like RX-8s, and because its a little cheaper. And if i wanted to make any mods to the engine, i wouldnt have to worry about losing my warranty cause there is none. But on the other hand, the RX-8 has warranty, will have less problems, seats 4 people, has better gas mileage, and is brang new. Its goin to be a hard decision to make. I have some time to think it over though. Thx for ur opinions guys.

Despite what tiff says, the Rx-8 has a hard time seating four people. Unless the driver is 5'2'' there is really not alot of room in the back. I guess it would be ok for small kids, or your bag, but that's about it.

[stracing]

i just hope you don't dedide to put in a ford v8 in one of them one day

Yea, Ford sucks. Put a Chevy small block engine in it. It will be much better.

ershhh...i should of just said any Vee in general

[mit5005]

Yea, i have seen some 2nd gen rx-7s with chevy 350's in them. They are pretty quick because the car is light but it takes the uniqueness away from the car. The only engine swaps i would do on a rotary would be the 20b from a cosmo.

[stracing]

but it takes the uniqueness away from the car
yay someone understands my point of view. there was a thread here about a rx-7 with a v8 which turned into an argument

[adlinyusman]

yeah wait for the new RX-7 replacement. It looks great. The RX-8 is a gorgeous looking car, although it is highly impractical. the rear sits one and a half at most, and even then it's really cramped. The driver has to be a shorter than 5'4 to get the most out of the rears. I was in one recently, and i tried the rear seats. Frankly it felt a little claustrophobic.

[mit5005]

Where did u see the rx7 replacement?

[adlinyusman]

autocar, can't remember which issue. It was a while ago.

[Tomerville]

Where did u see the rx7 replacement?


August issue of Road and Track in Ampersand. It looks HOT!

[mit5005]

Where can i find a pic online?

[Vansquish]

why would you want to put a V8 in an RX? Sooo heavy compared to the Wankel.

[Tomerville]

Where can i find a pic online?


I don't know. The last RX-7 was the FD35...so maybe like the new is FD45? or FD36? Sorry, I really don't know though.

[WhiteP]

IMO, I will get a used Rx-7 if you can find a mint condition... that means no accident... any other parts can be replaced easily... if you have the money...

Why I choose the Rx-7? The Rx7 is more a sport car to me than the Rx8.. the Rx7 is a 2 seaters.. so much sportier... if you tune the turbo probably, you can have so much fun on winding road or track...

Unless you want to be a little bit practical... then you may want to go for the Rx8

[mit5005]

I don't know. The last RX-7 was the FD35...so maybe like the new is FD45? or FD36? Sorry, I really don't know though.


Just to let u know, its FD3S, not FD35. The one before it was FC3S so maybe the new one will be FE3S. Who knows.

[Tomerville]

Just to let u know, its FD3S, not FD35. The one before it was FC3S so maybe the new one will be FE3S. Who knows.


Stupid dislexia. 5, S same difference! Lol...sorry! Still wait for the new Mazdaspeed RX8

[Garretts_turbo]

id go with the RX-8. warranty, and more reliable than the old RX's. but the car looks a little lumpy.
the FD rx-7 is an awesome looking machine but it seems that its a lot of up-keep.

[mit5005]

Well, i figured that the money i save if i buy the FD would go towards problems and mods on the car. I have general knowledge of cars so i could do most myself like i did my mustang. Even though rotary engines are way different, i think i could learn. Anything to save a little money i guess.

[Tomerville]

This is the Mazdaspeed RX-8. It is rumored to be about $35,000. In Japan, it is in limited numbers, but when it reaches our shore's this summer, it will be more like the S-tune and R-tune packages of Nismo for Nissan. There will also be a Turbocharged version of the Mazdaspeed for old time sake. enjoy! :D



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[mit5005]

If they make a turbo version of that car, i will definitely need to test drive one. That would make a big difference in the RX-8. That silver one is nice.

[Tomerville]

Yeah. I think it will be supercharged actually. The thing is dead until you hit 5000 revs, imagine with Turbo lag...plus, it needs more torque, not horsepower so a supercharger would give it more bottom end without lag. I think reliability issues would keep people away form it though.

[ARMAN]

I think its going to be based on this concept http://images.google.com/images?hl=cs&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=evolv&sa=N&tab=wi&lr=

If I have money I would by a new car. If I have lots of money, I would by any car.

[Tomerville]

The pictures I saw looked a little bit more like its FD3S Predecessor.

[kompak]

in my opinion...the rx-7 is good enough even though it is an old car...this is because if compared with the rx-8....the rx-7 lead by miles from rx-8...rx-7 uses twin turbos but rx-8 uses RENESIS engines or should i call it as NA engines...about the engine problems...don't worry about what other people told you...it's you who use the car and not them...so you know how you use it......if you handle the car well and not torture it...the car or engine will last longer...every engine will have the same problem and not only the rx-7...which engine has never failed???none right???but if you still sceptical about those opinions....just get yourself a new rx-8...both have their pros and cons....it's up to you anyway...good luck mit5005

[mit5005]

Thx kompak. I think im goin with rx-7 afterall. I was thinkin of findin a high mileage one and doin an engine swap with another rotary or just fixin up the one it has. The cosmo from japan has a 3 rotor and i can get a used one for 2600. But i dont know what ill do with it yet. Im definitely goin with the rx7 for now though. I dont think i could even afford an rx8 now anyways. Thx for your opinions guys.

[kompak]

you are welcome mit5005....3 rotor from cosmos which is the 20B right....that engine have higher reliability because if you looks at the cosmo itself......mazda have developed higher reliability program for that engine because of its displacement......they have conduct heavy testing...same as the F1 engine reliability testing to determine how tough this engine can cope with the pressure because the engine itself uses 3 rotors instead of 2....and this means higher pressure than the 12B or 13B.....

[bluesbrother60]

Overall the performance figures on the new RX-8 have not been all that impressive. But I would say go for the new car. God bless a good warranty...