heres a treat

[number77]

if you haven't seen this before, your not a realy enthusiast, lol
look, no gaskets!!
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/02PHRS1_024Moran07_z.jpg
with special pistons
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/02PHRS1_024Moran09_z.jpg
moderately sized aftercooler
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/02PHRS1_024Moran17_z.jpg
a nice fashioned inlet
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/02PHRS1_024Moran21_z.jpg
only if they made a saddle for engines
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/02PHRS1_024Moran23_z.jpg
results:

rpm hp ft. lb.tq psi.
5,500 1,168 1,115 24
6,000 1,364 1,194 24
6,500 1,554 1,256 24
7,000 1,731 1,299 24
7,500 1,926 1,349 25
8,000 2,002 1,313 25
8,500 2,083 1,287 25
9,000 2,139 1,248 25
9,500 2,105 1,164 25

the turbos run more than 25 psi. lol the exhuast side of the turbo housing was too large and they couldn't make the run of 35 psi as they were hoping, with 35 psi, 2,800 hp is expected

this is a quad turbo 442 cu.in. big block, made in the U.S.A.
GOD BLESS AMERICA :shock:

[mit5005]

OMG, thats the most amazing V8 i have ever seen! Who made it and why does the exhaust housing of the turbo's size have to do with psi. I dont know much about turbos.

[hemi_fan]

hahaha, I was just thinking of a 2000hp engine earlier, and how awesome it would be to put it into a stock appearing camaro... imagine having that on the highway! Lite em up from a 70mph roll!

[DeMoN]

damn that is a whole lot of power. I suppose some vid will be available of this thing moving everywhere huh? Lets see if everything else is powerful enough to handle such power.

[hemi_fan]

My question is how is the reliability on this thing? I remember when JC drove that 1000hp+ Skyline in one of his vids, and he said the owner never had anything break on it. I was thinking about how much power a de-tuned top-fuel dragster engine would make... If u dropped it from 8000hp to only 2000hp, would you be able to make it reliable? Because a reliable 2000hp engine would be quite fun.

[mit5005]

The fact is that any car with hp figures in the 2,000 area probably still wouldnt be reliable for street driving. First of all the gas consumption would still be crazy, and it would probably not even be street legal. Im all for big hp, but i doubt you can get something that powerful as a daily driver. It would be fun though. My mustang with 630 hp is good times.

[gtx28]

I think a better question to ask is how many people could handle a 1000 hp car as a daily driver let alone a 2000hp car. Not many people could handle that kind of car, unless you could detune the car on the fly for bad road conditions. The idea of a car like that is not practical. Most people cant handle a 300hp car let alone something that powerfull. Lol looking back at those pistons i would think they were trying to increase the compression ratio. Man that is alot of power though, looks like a really nice motor, i bet they have over 2k in studs for that motor alone lol. Anyhow looking forward to seeing more pics of this motor, and the car its in.

[number77]

i don't have enough time right now, but when i can i'll get more pics up. its not a street car, lol, its a drag car. this year they did ok, but they are going to try to break some records and make it the first (in its class) in the 5's (second 1/4mile). the piston on the left is similar to what they are using. the one on the right would bump the compression up a bit, but domed pistons aren't really good to use. their shape doesn't allowed the formation of the flame to form properly. the piston on the left also has a design for quench. the one on the left has a design that actually allows the gas/fuel ratio to mix better.
dished pistons are better to use as far as flame shape. when the fuel enters the cylinder and spark it forms very similar to a ball of fire. with the ball forming from the spark plug outwards. this is what makes hemispherical heads work better than the typical. the name HEMI is derrived from (hemi-spherical) which is the shape of the head forming a hemisphere, half of a sphere shaped. :)

[number77]

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/02PHRS1_024Moran20_z.jpg
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/02PHRS1_024Moran05_z.jpg
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/02PHRS1_024Moran02_z.jpg
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/02PHRS1_024Moran11_z.jpg
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/02PHRS1_024Moran15_z.jpg
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/02PHRS1_024Moran19_z.jpg
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/02PHRS1_024Moran22_z.jpg
another unique thing about the engine is it doesn't use gaskets. they machined the block and other parts to fit o-rings. really advanced stuff if you care to read more about this car here is a story on it.
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/chevrolet/bigblock/0305em_turbo_bb/

http://www.phrtv.com/2002Season/229801/images/mike-moran-car.jpg
this is mike moran
http://www.phrtv.com/2002Season/229801/images/mike-moran.jpg
http://www.phrtv.com/2002Season/229801/images/mike-moran-engine.jpg

[DR.GONZO]

yea i remember seeing that! :D

[mit5005]

I dont see how an engine cannot have gaskets. That thing is amazing. Is that website sayin that it is street legal?

[Tomerville]

Geez, thats crazy! Imagine how much that would cost?

[nthfinity]

:)
keep in mind, top fuel dragsters have an engine life expectancy of about 1400 rpms, and usually only need about 900 to get the job done.
ive read that they run on the verge of hydrolic lock the entire way down the track, consume almost a galon before taking off, and diesle more then half the way due to extream compression/heat issiues.
at extreams, the cars pull about 9g's off initial take off, and a sustained 6-7 g's the rest of the trip

as long as you are quick to the tree, then your set

[Anonymous]

american cars are only fast when they go striaght

PUt them on a track with turns in different directions.
then you have a big slow american car

It's cool though thats a lot of horse power and you have to respect HP
no matter what kind of car makes it

[RC45]

american cars are only fast when they go striaght

PUt them on a track with turns in different directions.
then you have a big slow american car

It's cool though thats a lot of horse power and you have to respect HP
no matter what kind of car makes it

LOL - here we go again.

I will meet you on a road course... and bring my "big slow american car" that "can't turn in different directions.. ;)

[Anonymous]

A VET vs. F50

ha ha bye bye vet

vet Vs. GTR

not to sure
i still got my money on the GTR

[RC45]

A VET vs. F50

ha ha bye bye vet

vet Vs. GTR

not to sure
i still got my money on the GTR

Oh - I didn't know we get to spend $200,000 on the ride.. (and this debate has been made 1,000,000,000 times).

I see your F50 - and meet you with a Mosler...

And before you get too happy - a stock Z06 will demolish a stock GTR... but I am game for a try...

[Anonymous]

well you got a few cars that i can see.

I just have a tundra.

get me fast non-american car i'll drive it for you :P

[nthfinity]

hmm, shady, make some sence please. i dont think we are looking for some flame thread.
tons of power is tons of fun, and handling is tons of fun as well...
i for one , wouldnt mind having a car that has 500+ hp that turns in as well as a charger did (not great, but fun powerslides everywhere)
i conversly, woudlnt mind having a car with only 200 hp that handles as well as a vette... (lotus elies? about as much as a standard vette, so id rather have the vette :-D)

[Anonymous]

i got treat
http://www.car.co.nz/images/media/minivanv.mpeg

[number77]

lol, just goes to show that anythings fast, if you got the money! :P

[Anonymous]

i know anything can be fast for the right amount

that civic was :wink:

[Garretts_turbo]

mmmmm what a yummy looking motor......makes my engine feel small and weak .... :?
personally, id rather have a car that handles excellent, even if it compromises the power.

[mit5005]

A VET vs. F50

ha ha bye bye vet

vet Vs. GTR

not to sure
i still got my money on the GTR


How about we put an F50 vs a Saleen S7 or a Ford Gt. I think these americans will get the win. I have nuttin against the F50, i actually love that car, but dont make stereotypes about American cars.

[number77]

true, american exotics are underrated. people think the viper handles like crap....no...they just played gran turismo and can't win with the car. in reallity cars like the viper require lots of talent to drive them the way they were built. as far as the mosler goes, its the best bang for your buck race car out there, as the z06 is for street cars. the mosler is very light weight especially when you compare that to the dimensions. the saleen is another great car. i guess if you asked me about italian cars, i would tell you they have too much heritage and not enough performance (not to say an f50 is slow). :D to each their own i guess but this is an american car section of the board and there are other places for the ferraris and what. the engine that i posted is not for a le mans car, its for the 1/4 mile. with those intentions they built the right motor to get the job done. :D

[Anonymous]

true, american exotics are underrated. people think the viper handles like crap....no...they just played gran turismo and can't win with the car. in reallity cars like the viper require lots of talent to drive them the way they were built. as far as the mosler goes, its the best bang for your buck race car out there, as the z06 is for street cars. the mosler is very light weight especially when you compare that to the dimensions. the saleen is another great car. i guess if you asked me about italian cars, i would tell you they have too much heritage and not enough performance (not to say an f50 is slow). :D to each their own i guess but this is an american car section of the board and there are other places for the ferraris and what. the engine that i posted is not for a le mans car, its for the 1/4 mile. with those intentions they built the right motor to get the job done. :D

true

factory american cars dont have the best reputaion for quaility and durablity. you couldnt run a viper as long and as hard as you could run an itialian car. vipers dont handle like ferrari's especially the F50 its a damn F1 with a body

viper specs
http://www.vipercentral.com/buy/specs/specs92.htm

F50 SPECS
cant find check out find
on thread[OFFER] TOP GEAR - Formula 1 vs F50(i was asked not to link)

anyway for the money a viper is a better car because you cant buy a ferrari for 100 grand.

[RC45]

true

factory american cars dont have the best reputaion for quaility and durablity. you couldnt run a viper as long and as hard as you could run an itialian car.

That is an untrue statement.

I want to see the F40/F50/Testarossa with 100,000 miles uner the belt that has not almost the ourchase price in maintenance.

These Italian thorough breds are sensative beasts - they may run hard and fast, but need TLC and like the fucking hot porn star babes in the "pinup " section - are VERY high maintenance.

[Anonymous]

These Italian thorough breds are sensative beasts - they may run hard and fast, but need TLC and like the fucking hot porn star babes in the "pinup " section - are VERY high maintenance.

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but if you give the "porn star" what she whats she will fuck you all night long and not get tired.

as for a fat bitch well, she'll finish before you

[gtx28]

lol shady your soo off its rediculous, did you say fast and civic in the same sentance? lmao, I think you lack the concept of a fast auto, yes ferrari small displacement engines can rev high for long periods, but longevity is not there speciality, if you have ever paid for the yearly maintenance schedule on one you will quickly understand that it is almost 8 times more than most peoples monthly mortgage payment, the facts dont lie, rc has a big point there. Same thing is true in other markets, I have not owned a newer model mercedes, but in the past the maintence schedule was like that of an exotic, why would i want to bother, when I can buy an american product that will last alot longer, and hit my wallet alot less. Can you say CTS V?? I love the sound of a screaming v12 at 8k but i also love the rumble of my camaro felt at well over a mile away. Do I love the sound of an rx at 14k rpms hell ya. I said all that to say this it dosent matter what your talkin about, broad statements almost never work when your talkin about something as diverse as people, or autos. Is the only constant in the universe change? or mabey love, but is love aplicable to a logic defined universe who am i to argue. Has anyone else noticed that I babble alot? lol

[gtx28]

anyway for the money a viper is a better car because you cant buy a ferrari for 100 grand.

Another example of your strange reality, as a matter of fact you can purchase a number of different ferrari's for under 100k, the older testarossas, and some 355's along with some of the older models are now well below the 100k mark. I have been eyeing some of the Tesstarossas, and the 512m for a while, I am hoping to find a 512m in the near future for a fair price. Ok granted that none of the f40 f50 cars have dropped below the 100k mark but still if ferarri is the name of the game it can be had.

[jon944lee]

WHOA.... kinda reminds me of my friend's Z28, except his isn't turbocharged...

http://www.cardomain.com/id/silverghostz

[SilverPhoenix]

true, american exotics are underrated. people think the viper handles like crap....no...they just played gran turismo and can't win with the car. in reallity cars like the viper require lots of talent to drive them the way they were built. as far as the mosler goes, its the best bang for your buck race car out there, as the z06 is for street cars. the mosler is very light weight especially when you compare that to the dimensions. the saleen is another great car. i guess if you asked me about italian cars, i would tell you they have too much heritage and not enough performance (not to say an f50 is slow). :D to each their own i guess but this is an american car section of the board and there are other places for the ferraris and what. the engine that i posted is not for a le mans car, its for the 1/4 mile. with those intentions they built the right motor to get the job done. :D

true

factory american cars dont have the best reputaion for quaility and durablity. you couldnt run a viper as long and as hard as you could run an itialian car. vipers dont handle like ferrari's especially the F50 its a damn F1 with a body

viper specs
http://www.vipercentral.com/buy/specs/specs92.htm

F50 SPECS
cant find check out find
on thread[OFFER] TOP GEAR - Formula 1 vs F50(i was asked not to link)

anyway for the money a viper is a better car because you cant buy a ferrari for 100 grand.


lol italian car last longer than american car lol, u gave me a good laugh there lol. Ever heard of the GT-40 and its decendent the Ford GT? or how about the C5-R, or mebe the Z06 which lapped n-ring under 8min. Or the Mosler which can Slolam at 74mph? or the Viper that stops as well as the enzo without Ceramic brakes. You seem to be an open dictionary of fanboy stereotype knowledge.

[number77]

lol italian car last longer than american car lol, u gave me a good laugh there lol. Ever heard of the GT-40 and its decendent the Ford GT? or how about the C5-R, or mebe the Z06 which lapped n-ring under 8min. Or the Mosler which can Slolam at 74mph? or the Viper that stops as well as the enzo without Ceramic brakes. You seem to be an open dictionary of fanboy stereotype knowledge.
lol, i try not to be so blunt. but yes. the viper is an extrordinary car. people just don't think so because they can't win the GT races on gran turismo. it doesn't come with anti-lock brakes..why? cause its a street race car and they know what scca drivers like on and off the course. :D

[corvette97]

OH, american muscle!!!, i'm not "american", but i love their cars, IMO these are the best options around and they are beast on the rode, IMO too the vette can turn perfectly

[SPEEDKILLAR]

Yikes :shock: that's a big crazy engine, could you nos those type of engines?

[SilverPhoenix]

Yikes :shock: that's a big crazy engine, could you nos those type of engines?

probably have to tune it differently, lower boost maybe cuz with a shot of Nos the Exhaust going into those turbines are gonna melt them lol.

[number77]

Yikes :shock: that's a big crazy engine, could you nos those type of engines?
sure could, but it would have to be built differently. when you put nitrous threw a big money, high powered drag car, there are tons of things you have to change, cams, fuel timing, lots of stuff. i don't think that they are running nitrous because i believe there is a rule saying you can only have one power adder (nitrous, turbo, blower, etc.).