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campank
03-12-2004, 11:54 PM
With all the bad press the current two-session saturday qualifying has been getting, the likelihood of its replacement is very high. So does anyone have any ideas on what would be the optimum qualifying format? Some of the ideas that have been floating around the paddock lately are scrapping the first saturday session and have just one qualifying period period. BAR's David Richards proposed the idea of having the first session session be based on the 2002 style qualifying then have the second session be like the 2003 format.

As a home viewer I didn't really mind the single-lap qualifying of 2003, however when I went to a grand prix last year, I understand why a lot of people really didn't like the format. Because unless you had a monitor in view, there was a lot of waiting around except of course, for the three seconds when a car drove past you.

I really liked the fuel strategy element that was introduced last year. So I was thinking what could be really neat is if we could have a mix of 2003 and 2002 qualifying: hot laps with parc ferme. Cars would run in a similar setup as in 2002, with free access to the pits for any mid-qualifying changes. Then on a team's hot lap they would have until the end of the cool-down lap to 'declare' the hot lap as their official qualifying time. Then the car would enter parc ferme. And 2003's parc ferme rules would apply.

I think this would be pretty cool, since teams could get multiple runs it would make up for the 'DC effect', and teams could prepare their cars with fuel/tyres ahead of each hot lap. With the one-engine rule, teams would be under more pressure to take their laps early on for fear of over-taxing the engine.

so anyway that's my idea, Tell me if you think its got some merit, or if I am full of crap 8) . Got a better idea for qualifying? Lets hear it!

Cheers!

robruf
03-13-2004, 12:18 AM
I think that they should go back to when they had to do 12 laps within the hour and then the challenges would really start to be awesome again.

SPEEDCORE
03-13-2004, 04:23 AM
I think that they should go back to when they had to do 12 laps within the hour and then the challenges would really start to be awesome again.

Yeap agree with that, and get rid of ParcFarme(sp) at the moment the fastest car in qualifying doesnt always represent the fastest driver as of the different fuel stop strategies etc.

Also someone get rid of Max Mosley while were at it. :roll: :lol:

akumapc
03-13-2004, 12:51 PM
At the very least, if not revert back to a 12 lap qualifying schedule, I would say have 2 sets of 1 lap qualifying. So we would see 1 lap flyers setting the timesheets and then another round of 1 lap flyers to see if they could improve on their position. I really do miss the qualifying battles we had previously, and to be honest it was one of the best parts of F1 racing. Sure there was traffic every now and then but it was awesome to see mika beat michaels time, then michael beating mika's by .1, and then mika going back out and knocking off .03 and then michael knocking off .005 in the last minute of qualifying... ahh the good old days..

ae86_16v
03-14-2004, 04:42 PM
No, I don't like the free 1 hr or 30 min qualifying at all. I think it is much much more exciting to do the 1 lap qualifying. But, I guess it is true, that it is a bit long (I fast forward some of it). And another thing that sucks is to be the last team that runs and the first team out on the second half.

Maybe they should go back to the Friday and Saturday sessions, but keep the one Hot Lap qualifying because it simply produce the most interesting results.

I am gonna link you guys to my poll. . .

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7798

vanquish
03-14-2004, 05:19 PM
12 lap system rocks! The thrill of last minutes is outstanding!! Maybe little adjustments needed but the concept is great.

How about idea of 12laps with no possibility to fuel between runs. This would open more strategies. You could do a clean run in start of the session or u could risk and come late to track when the track is at its best.

But hopefully they do something to present system.

campank
03-14-2004, 11:36 PM
I remember one other option for a format was to have 2003's format, but the winner of Friday's session would get first choice of when they wanted to go out in the given session. In other words if it looked like it was going to rain, the drive could choose to go first.

crsbarnard
03-24-2004, 07:09 PM
I can't figure out why the FIA keeps on tampering with the qualifying system. Each time they change it they make it worse. FIA, please go back to the original 12 lap system. It wasn't broke so you shouldn't have tried to fix it. And for the small teams - thats all you ever saw during the first 30min. I don't understand what their complaining about.