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interceptor_01
03-02-2004, 06:12 AM
Official press release:

1. BMW Concept M5.

– The world’s first V10 high-revving engine in a saloon car.
– The world’s first 7-speed SMG in a saloon car.
– The best power-to-weight ratio in its market segment.

Precisely 20 years have already passed since the BMW M5 established a new segment, which has in the meantime also been discovered by other car manufacturers. And that car – the original – is still by far the most successful player in the high performance saloon car segment. Spread over three generations of production, more than 35,000 units were built – initially manually at the BMW M plant in Munich and later at the 5 Series
assembly line in Dingolfing. These units were then sold worldwide.
The secret of the BMW M5’s popularity has always been the successful synthesis of unobtrusive yet powerful appearance, combined with a
high-performance power unit – a sports car featuring Formula 1 technology and at the same time a saloon car offering premium comfort.
In terms of driving dynamics, the BMW M5 had always set standards in its segment. It not only excelled due to its high performance, but due to the way in which M power was produced and developed. It appeared as if this first-rate car’s inexhaustible power reserves had created a totally new dimension in effortlessness.

BMW M5 parameters: Performance, style and driving fun.

Due to the change of model within the 5 Series, the BMW M product portfolio is currently presented without a BMW M5, even though the demand for such a car has never diminished. For this reason, BMW M designers have begun designing a possible successor based on the new BMW 5 Series. This car is a far-reaching concept on an appealing subject: the BMW Concept M5.

Such a car could undoubtedly serve as a stimulus and offer solutions for a future series-production vehicle. Totally in keeping with the high demands of our clientele, whose main reasons for purchasing a car are performance, style and driving fun, the BMW M5 Concept makes its living out of contrasts: the principle of optimal performance wrapped in a discreet but, by comparison with the 5 Series, distinctive body design.


When seen alongside the new 5 Series, the exterior design of the
BMW Concept M5 has its very own uniqueness. Modified front and rear air dams and side sills, a slightly lower body, side air vents, an exclusive
wheel design as well as the four M-type tailpipes, visually accentuate the vehicle’s claim to being a sports car.

The first V10 high-revving power unit in a saloon car.

The heart of every M automobile, and that includes the BMW Concept M5, must be its exclusive high-performance power unit with high-revving air intake technology, an engine which sets a benchmark in this field. With this
engine, BMW M is presenting a masterpiece in power unit technology that undoubtedly has just what it takes: the figure 5 is predominant with a
5.0-litre capacity producing around 500 bhp (368 kW) and a maximum torque of at least 500 Nm, these being the kind of figures BMW M considers worthy of a possible new M5.

And the figure ten will also gain in significance, as, for the first time in
BMW history, a series-production saloon car is to be powered by a
ten-cylinder internal combustion engine, the sound and power of which is closely related to the engine currently providing monstrous power to the
BMW Williams Formula 1 racing car, without a doubt the most powerful car
on the starting grid.

The engine powering the BMW Concept M5 should be in a position to mobilise the enormous power reserves required to assist this unique sports saloon car in achieving a remarkable driving performance. Engineers at
BMW M envisage the car accelerating from 0 to 100 km/h (0 to 62 mph) over the classic distance in well under 5 seconds, the 200 km/h mark being reached in just 13 seconds.

It is not power alone that makes an M power unit so unique.
The technology of this newly-developed ten-cylinder engine should not be perceivable by single-dimensional power or sheer performance alone, but first and foremost by the method of achieving such performance. M power featured in the new BMW Concept M5 will once again rise to the occasion and become a perfect example of what is technically feasible and appropriate.

This is evident not only in the extremely appealing design of a BMW high-performance engine. Needless to say, this specially developed BMW M engine incorporates typical features such as high-pressure VANOS, individual throttle butterflies, engine electronics designed by our own engineers and based on knowledge gained from Formula 1 racing as well as traverse force-regulated oil supply.


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Big pictures on the Concept car

http://www.uploadit.org/ascariss/bmw_m5_new_02.jpg
http://www.uploadit.org/ascariss/bmw_m5_new_03.jpg
http://www.uploadit.org/ascariss/bmw_m5_new_04.jpg
http://www.uploadit.org/ascariss/bmw_m5_new_05.jpg
http://www.uploadit.org/ascariss/bmw_m5_new_06.jpg


"only" 500hp and only SMG, so sad I really love manualgearboxes. Say it isnt true ....

altezza
03-02-2004, 06:21 AM
Thanks for the info, Zafiro!
and welcome to JW :D

interceptor_01
03-02-2004, 06:25 AM
Thanks for the info, Zafiro!
and welcome to JW :D

thank you! :D

yg60m
03-02-2004, 06:36 AM
Thanks for these informations , i was curious of the figures, 5.0 or 5.5, 500 or 550 bhp ... the torque is the same as the older M5 so i don't know how they will reach 200 km/h in 13 s, it's almost the F40 time !!!!!

ps : welcome onboard Zafiro. :wink:

interceptor_01
03-02-2004, 06:40 AM
Thanks for these informations , i was curious of the figures, 5.0 or 5.5, 500 or 550 bhp ... the torque is the same as the older M5 so i don't know how they will reach 200 km/h in 13 s, it's almost the F40 time !!!!!

ps : welcome onboard Zafiro. :wink:

"maximum torque of at least 500 Nm" , Im expecting 550Nm, well i hope so..

and thanks :)

cho_888
03-02-2004, 06:46 AM
thats real cool, i want one! thats on powerful sedan, do you think it will change much when the production model is released.

interceptor_01
03-02-2004, 06:59 AM
thats real cool, i want one! thats on powerful sedan, do you think it will change much when the production model is released.

I'm sure it will get a little spoiler on the trunk, we have already seen it on prototypes. And also BMW M3 concept didn't have spoiler too, but prodution version had it.

jon_s
03-02-2004, 07:23 AM
Hahaha, that is a good bit of information! Thankyou!

interceptor_01
03-02-2004, 09:25 AM
This sounds like fun "V10 up to 9.000 is to be stable /min" :shock:

PATo355
03-02-2004, 10:11 AM
Thx for the information Zafiro , very complete , interesting posts for a newbie , and please update your profile and get an avatar :D i bet you will be a regular here

sentra_dude
03-02-2004, 11:19 AM
Cool, thanx for the info Zafiro.

Can't wait for that car to come out and take back it's crown, hehe. 8)

kteo2003
03-02-2004, 11:31 AM
if they maneged a 5.lt engine to rave till 9000 well i think there is nothing else to say....

coombsie66
03-02-2004, 02:16 PM
^^ That aint the impressive thing, its retaining the superb torque spread al the way from low down, to the red line. And making a reliable engine that makes it so amazing!
I presume this one has a 7 speed SMG due to this engine being more revvy than the old one?
No manual then!? Thats a shame, and i think a few people bought the current M5 over the E55 due to the option of a manual box. It was certainly a strongly contributing factor for my dad.

Tomerville
03-02-2004, 02:34 PM
Thats a shame, and i think a few people bought the current M5 over the E55 due to the option of a manual box. It was certainly a strongly contributing factor for my dad.


Very True. Is it an SMG a la BMW? or will it be a true SMG found in BTCC cars and the TVR T440R which has a clutch pedal you use on down-shifts and starts? The BMW SMG is just a modified automatic. er, manumatic.

jon_s
03-02-2004, 03:07 PM
^^ That aint the impressive thing, its retaining the superb torque spread al the way from low down, to the red line. And making a reliable engine that makes it so amazing!


Oooooooooooooooh YES! Spot on. Not that you ever are not :wink:

7 gear...blimey! Soon be having enough gears to rival big rigs and trucks! :?

stradale
03-02-2004, 03:25 PM
I don't know about the gearbox issue. The gearbox mentioned here clearly is the one in this concept. BMW doesn't provide technical details of a production version when the car is still called concept. It would be strange to specify any options as well, since you can't order a concept. So I have still hope there's a choice for either a manual or an SMG gearbox in the eventual production version M5.

coombsie66
03-02-2004, 04:16 PM
I just hope if they do a manual box and SMG that they dont spend all the money and time developing the SMG and then just wack a dog af a manual in for those who are die hards for a manual.
If the torque levels are only slightly up on the current M5 then maybee they might be able to use a revised version of the current 6 speed box. (Although this one aint too good, but adequate)

SPEEDKILLAR
03-02-2004, 04:54 PM
Mercedes will strike back :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

stradale
03-02-2004, 05:05 PM
Mercedes will strike back :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Yeah, like a drunk powerlifter unable to hit anyone standing in front of him. Ever agile BMW needn't worry, I think.

skituner
03-02-2004, 05:26 PM
thanks alot. im huge fan of the m5 and cant wait for the new one
v10 in a saloon=crazy fast

Vansquish
03-02-2004, 05:32 PM
Damn...I've been waiting for this thing to come out, but now I'm not so sure I'm even very interested in it. No Manual gearbox, what the hell? I mean, I'm sure it will be fast, but nowhere near as much fun as a stick.

jon_s
03-02-2004, 05:43 PM
Now, lets not forget Audis' response! :shock: This is going to be a good show down!

interceptor_01
03-02-2004, 06:13 PM
Now, lets not forget Audis' response! :shock: This is going to be a good show down!

Audi and mercedes are cheating, they both use supercharger/turbo, that isnt fair :agrue: :D

jon_s
03-02-2004, 06:38 PM
Are audi using it in the next one? I heard they were going to use the V10 out of the Gallardo :?

Sachmo12345
03-02-2004, 09:15 PM
i cant wait to see it prowling my neighboorhood

bmwdakias
03-02-2004, 09:28 PM
The car looks great, it is definetly going to take its crown back although according to my opinion and many car magazines it never lost it. I ve heard rumors about more than 500 bhp. Ok in a way i can agree with people not liking the design of the e60 but this car looks and it should drive great. The smg is a great gearbox and i think people should stop being prejudiced against it and open their eyes into the future. I cant wait to see it, i am thinking of going to the geneva motor show where i heard it is going to make its first appearance. :D Imagine how the M6 will look like, i cant wait

interceptor_01
03-03-2004, 03:16 AM
Are audi using it in the next one? I heard they were going to use the V10 out of the Gallardo :?

I´ve heard the same, also mercedes aren't gonna use supercharge on the next E55. Now we talking fair game :lol:

interceptor_01
03-03-2004, 05:22 AM
from Gustav, the guy who own M5board.com

I've heard a bird sing

7-speed gearbox. Choose between manual and SMG III.

250 km/h limiter can now be taken off by choise. This option will be introduced on the M3 CSL.

:shock:

LotusGT1
03-03-2004, 05:47 AM
Now, lets not forget Audis' response! :shock: This is going to be a good show down!

Audi and mercedes are cheating, they both use supercharger/turbo, that isnt fair :agrue: :D

LOL...tell me what isn't fair about that ?

interceptor_01
03-03-2004, 06:20 AM
LOL...tell me what isn't fair about that ?

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