The current Administration starts to monitor all PC's

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[HeilSvenska]

Noooooooooooooooooooo. I did that inadvertently!

[SHIZL]

unless your running a linux behind multiple proxys "they" can tell who you are and what your doing. now unless "they" intend on prosecuting more no big deal nothing new

[Mattk]

^Yeah, they can track you anyway. I highly doubt that any federal agent will be bothered checking out people's internet usage unless they have reasonable suspicion that you're committing some sort of heinous offence or planning to.

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[5vz-fe]

Seems like the government is trying to take advantage of the fact that most ppl click agree without reading what they are agreeing on.

[Mattk]

I prefer to look at things in a more realistic setting. I've looked at the Department's privacy statement and it seems perfectly fine. But assuming you were looking harder and un-covered such unsavoury consequences, I still don't think it matters. So:

Being a prosecutor is generally a terrible job with compartively poor pay and limited prospects of career advancement. I highly doubt they will frivolously use obscure laws to prosecute people. It just makes you look like a jerk when you could be doing something else instead. Furthermore, they don't have any evidence unless an investigatory agency gives them some, upon which they will probably tell the investigator to leave them alone and get back to more important work. Then there is the question of why an investigator in a federal agency would bother to investigate random people under obscure laws. It doesn't accomplish a whole lot at all. So they won't. They will focus on more important offences.

[10000rpmlover]

I prefer to look at things in a more realistic setting. I've looked at the Department's privacy statement and it seems perfectly fine. But assuming you were looking harder and un-covered such unsavoury consequences, I still don't think it matters. So:

Being a prosecutor is generally a terrible job with compartively poor pay and limited prospects of career advancement. I highly doubt they will frivolously use obscure laws to prosecute people. It just makes you look like a jerk when you could be doing something else instead. Furthermore, they don't have any evidence unless an investigatory agency gives them some, upon which they will probably tell the investigator to leave them alone and get back to more important work. Then there is the question of why an investigator in a federal agency would bother to investigate random people under obscure laws. It doesn't accomplish a whole lot at all. So they won't. They will focus on more important offences.


you know nothing of how the US government operates do you? by definition frivolous is something they do in a daily basis, what is more jacked up is that if you use that site and you happen to be registered as a republican, you will be under their crosshairs, electing that piece of garbage NUT-bama was the worst decision all these fools ever made, I say them because I certainly did not vote for him and his entourage of evil socialist scrottum lickers

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[loliea]

And all this is coming from FOX the world leader in incorrect, dishonest and manipulated news... Come one guys shut down your TVs (except for John Stewart) and get your news from elsewhere, a more objective source.

On the side note that when I hear/see somebody talking about the government being fascist that's just driving me mad, part of my family was killed in Auschwitz... :angry:
This is pure manipulation/sensationalism and miss-used of words.

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[pagani]

And all this is coming from FOX the world leader in incorrect, dishonest and manipulated news... Come one guys shut down your TVs (except for John Stewart) and get your news from elsewhere, a more objective source.

On the side note that when I hear/see somebody talking about the government being fascist that's just driving me mad, part of my family was killed in Auschwitz... :angry:
This is pure manipulation/sensationalism and miss-used of words.
Fox =fraud most the time
Glenn beck has been called a cia shill beware of him.

[loliea]

This is not a political forum, so instead of trying to start a one-sided fallacial discussion based on YOUR false data - GAFC.
This is so weak and stupid :thumbdown: :stupid:

FOX is 100% pure political, so each time FOX is cited to reference a thread it is going to be political...

I'll end it there with you, I know from reading this forum it is useless to discuss with you. Have a blast profiling and insulting me :laugh:!

[borhanfarrokh]

I hope so make peace one day in all of the world

[Mattk]

Federal Prosecutors have no prospects for career advancement? You may want to rethink that one.Considering it is a career path I am considering myself, I think I have thought about it enough. I know for a fact that junior prosecutors in my state are all on one month contracts. Hardly attractive. Federal prosecutors may have a better deal, but they are a smaller organisation and handle fewer matters. I doubt it is any different in American contexts.

As for the other stuff, like I said, I'm sure it happens, but not very regularly. The reason being that Fox News will find out and make you look like a dickhead. I accept that frivolous prosecutions are common in the US, but not so endemic that all users of a rebate scheme will be targeted by the government. I also accept (and know) that American politics is far dirtier than what I am accustomed to.

But, my initial point is that if the government really wanted to target you, they can, whether or not you own a computer. An amazing amount of information is available for public purview. I am sure the CIA and FBI and find out lots more without too much investigatory effort.

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[SHIZL]

The terms that are freaking everybody out are seen by the car dealers when they access cars.gov to get their rebate. If you cut and paste the boiler plate found on the Beck show into a little thing called GOOGLEyou will get thousands of hits from all kind of city, state and federal goverment websites. Those terms usually popped up when a third party entity (a gun dealer for instance) is accessing a government website. This has been a standard security agreement for over 10 years and no one has every complained. If you want to believe that Obama is seizing your computer, go right ahead. I suggest you not watch Glenn Beck if you are going to believe everything he says

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[nthfinity]

I'm not a fan of Beck, mainly because he doesn't site a lot of his material (which comes from a constitutional lawyer). Still, he's not wrong on many issues he speaks of.

Anybody citing John Leibowitz as news...or funny I don't think there is much help for you.

I think this is a topic waiting to jump the tracks (and in some ways already has). Closed

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Topic re-opened since there is a newsworthy update to this topic... tread lightly folks, or it closes again.

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[pagani]

See, now you are talking nonsense. Yo uwill NOT be able to show a SINGLE item broadcast by Fox is "fraud" of any kind. That statement is really ill informed.

You are also very poorly informed on who or what Glenn Beck is - rad his new book Uncommon Sense and you will learn quite a bit.



You are obviously an ignorant liberal. Why dont YOU post ANY proof Fox is a fraud and not 100% true.

You will fall flat on your face trying to do so.

Please dont try throw your politcially unaware featherweight around.
All mainstream media is fraud.

[SHIZL]

All mainstream media is fraud.
+1:thumbup:

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[10000rpmlover]

so if I go there and I happen to have images of barrack hussein getting anal raped by a tranny michelle obama bending barack over for her tranny endowement

come on you know you thought of it

[Pokiou]

just to shed light to this.. how can you view the terms and condition with out visiting the website ?? i mean didnt microsoft loose a court case due to the same wording... as it didnt have any terms and condition on the box but rather stated it during the installation process ?