[SPOILER] 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix

[blue8]

Round 18: Brazilian Grand Prix
Interlagos

Final race of the season! Hamilton leads Massa by 7 points so he's definitely the favorite. But as the cliche goes, anything can happen! :-) I just hope for an exciting end to what has been a great season (so far)

Practice 1:
Pos Driver Car Time Laps
1. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:12.305 24
2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.495 + 0.190 23
3. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:12.507 + 0.202 18
4. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) 1:12.874 + 0.569 24
5. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.925 + 0.620 20
6. Alonso Renault (B) 1:13.061 + 0.756 25
7. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:13.298 + 0.993 24
8. Piquet Renault (B) 1:13.378 + 1.073 39
9. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) 1:13.426 + 1.121 28
10. Glock Toyota (B) 1:13.466 + 1.161 33
11. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:13.600 + 1.295 24
12. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:13.621 + 1.316 23
13. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:13.649 + 1.344 30
14. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:13.676 + 1.371 28
15. Button Honda (B) 1:13.766 + 1.461 13
16. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:13.806 + 1.501 24
17. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:13.836 + 1.531 30
18. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:13.861 + 1.556 19
19. Sutil Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:14.704 + 2.399 21
20. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:14.821 + 2.516 21

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Practice 2:
Pos Driver Car Time Laps
1. Alonso Renault (B) 1:12.296 43
2. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:12.353 + 0.057 41
3. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:12.435 + 0.139 44
4. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:12.600 + 0.304 32
5. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:12.650 + 0.354 45
6. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:12.687 + 0.391 47
7. Piquet Renault (B) 1:12.703 + 0.407 44
8. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:12.761 + 0.465 42
9. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.827 + 0.531 33
10. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:12.886 + 0.590 42
11. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:12.896 + 0.600 38
12. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) 1:12.971 + 0.675 48
13. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) 1:13.038 + 0.742 49
14. Glock Toyota (B) 1:13.041 + 0.745 39
15. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:13.213 + 0.917 37
16. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:13.221 + 0.925 39
17. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:13.273 + 0.977 41
18. Button Honda (B) 1:13.341 + 1.045 49
19. Sutil Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:13.428 + 1.132 32
20. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:13.691 + 1.395 33

[5vz-fe]

Wow...Renault seems to be back to Champ form

[SHIZL]

^ day late dollar short, man i cant wait for the race except for knowing its the last of the season :-(

[turpija]

there are pretty good chance of a rainy race;-)

[a007apl]

I'm like to Hamilton wins this Championship :thumbup:

[styla21]

Rainy race = potential chaos :twisted:
I'm hoping deep down that Massa can pull it off; however chances are Hamilton will reign supreme, and will become a deserving champion.

[bettlejuice]

I'm like to Hamilton wins this Championship :thumbup:

i'm with you apl :-)

[bettlejuice]

Wow...Renault seems to be back to Champ form

that's really nice ... i hope they carry that on to next season

[blue8]

i'm with you apl :-)

I'm surprised you aren't rooting for your countryman Massa... or were you sarcastic :?:
Anyway, I prefer Massa over Hamilton :-)

Practice 3:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Alonso Renault (B) 1:12.141 19
2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.212 + 0.071 18
3. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.225 + 0.084 18
4. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:12.312 + 0.171 17
5. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:12.389 + 0.248 19
6. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) 1:12.402 + 0.261 19
7. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:12.426 + 0.285 18
8. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:12.453 + 0.312 18
9. Piquet Renault (B) 1:12.457 + 0.316 24
10. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:12.457 + 0.316 19
11. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:12.625 + 0.484 16
12. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:12.698 + 0.557 18
13. Glock Toyota (B) 1:12.712 + 0.571 22
14. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) 1:12.971 + 0.830 22
15. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:13.054 + 0.913 19
16. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:13.058 + 0.917 22
17. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:13.135 + 0.994 24
18. Button Honda (B) 1:13.278 + 1.137 23
19. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:13.460 + 1.319 22
20. Sutil Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:13.680 + 1.539 22

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Qualifying:
Q1 fastest: Massa
Q2 fastest: Kovalainen
POLE POSITION: Felipe Massa
P2: Trulli (where did he come from?)
P3: Raikkonen
P4: Hamilton
P5: Kovalainen

[zeus_2011]

Looks to be an interesting race!!

[bettlejuice]

I'm surprised you aren't rooting for your countryman Massa... or were you sarcastic :?:



nah.... no sarcasm here .... just supporting the one that showed best results throughout the season

[bettlejuice]

Details for Sunday, November 02
Rain showers in the morning will evolve into a more steady rain in the afternoon. High around 75F. Winds NW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80%. Rainfall around a quarter of an inch. Sunday night: Periods of rain. Low 67F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80%. Rainfall near a quarter of an inch.
UV Index: 9 (Very High)
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Relative Humidity: 73%
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Precipitation: 80%
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Snow: 0%
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Cloud Coverage: 81%

[pitfield]

come on Lewis

[Mattk]

Looks like good news for Massa. Hamilton has his work cut out for the race, but he only needs to finish 5th at best. I wouldn't expect fireworks from him unless he has a brain explosion.

[blue8]

Lewis Hamilton is world champion
Most exciting end to the season. Insanely nail-biting!

[arguapacha]

I do not know what to say... Vettel is my hero... Glock... well...

It was a fun race. and a good season. Still think Massa deserves the title more.... he lost it because of Ferrari's mistakes...

[zeus_2011]

wtf was that??? Did glock just win lewis the championship....very confused!

[Strop]

What a race.....:ohmy:.....one championship decided in one corner.Congratulations Hamilton, but next year you won't be that lucky.

[leblanc2.0]

Well done Hamilton.:clap:

[SHIZL]

wtf was that??? Did glock just win lewis the championship....very confused!
his tires had lost tire temp he was stilll running on drys
well done hamilton.

[Bizi Jones]

http://fotos.subefotos.com/a984babe3db3feffe4e295c5e18197cfo.gif

[blue8]

^ Even I though Massa had won it...
Anyway, congratulations to Hamilton! What a year it was for him. Although he was less consistent and made more mistakes, he accomplished his goals of winning Monaco and his home grand prix in Silverstone and becoming world champion. Oh and he has a hot new girlfriend
Just hope that somehow he manages his ego...

[toffytofik]

^
^
Haha, that was the first thing i was gonna post about ~
hilarious facial expressions change @ the Ferrari paddock: :mrgreen: >>:?: >>:crying:

Well deserved title for Hamilton. Glock was his messiah today! :-D
Massa looked very good at his homeground. Oh, and poor Coulthard, ending his carier with DNF... pity!

Anyway, that was an absolutely epic race and truly fantastic end on the season. Congrats everyone, F1 is not boring again!

[The Stig]

YYYYYEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mrgreen:

[atfin]

Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:-(:-p

[bettlejuice]

YYYYYEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mrgreen:

oh yeeeeeeeesssssssssssss!!!!!!!!

[inohm20]

Lewis deserved to win....this year. Massa is not only quick, he has a ferrari, and next year the gap between mclaren and ferrari may not be as close as it was this year (car wise). Massa is just a little too good I think, so if he gets a car that is definitely faster next year, well, everyone else is done for.

[fordgt84]

Fu%*ing awesome climax to the season :clap:
my god it truly isn't over til it's over... those last 2 laps were heart in the mouth stuff...when hamilton ran wide and vettel passed him i was like "oh no.. now i have to wait another year to see if he bags the title...vettel u little weasel grrr"... but then he passed glock on the last lap with only a few corners left ... congratulations to hamilton, he deserves it even though some of his moves this season were far from perfect.

massa truly gave an awesome performance this season, and he would've been a deserving world champion had hamilton finished 6th...he put on a brave face for his home crowd but u could still see he was hurting :-(

next year promises to be more exciting still... if the cars are gonna be good, it's gonna be hamilton vs alonso vs massa vs kubica vs raikonen vs vettel (surprisingly).

one of the best and exciting seasons in f1 ever :thumbup:

[Mattk]

Massa must be feeling hugely disappointed after winning the race so convincingly only to lose out on the world championship by a point. Next year should be a ripper season.

[nthfinity]

Think back...
It's 1997, and the last race of the season. Michael Schumacher is 1 point ahead of Jaques Villeneuve. Jaques is ahead, and Schumi makes a rough move which is ruled as deliberately trying to keep his rival from scoring any points. As a result, the Governing body strips Schumacher of all his WDC points for the year. A harsh Penalty; which some believed was not harsh enough.
http://www.iht.com/articles/1997/11/12/prix.t_0.php

It's 2008, June, in the crisp air of Canada. The rain starts pouring, and the strategies start compiling.
Luis Hamilton's chief rival at this point is Kimi Raikonnen. Safety car goes out, Pit red-light goes on. Kimi ends up in front of Hamilton. Hamilton crashes into Kimi in a speed limited pit! Replays all show Hamilton was at fault. The Media paints the crash as "Unfortunate".... saying "McLaren take penalty on the chin" suggesting that the penalty was not deserved. Looking at the history of such manuvers, Hamilton did not deserve to drive the remainder of the 2008 year. He was definitely NOT the best driver, and MOST definitely not deserving.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/2302747/F1-Canadian-Grand-Prix-McLaren-take-Lewis-Hamilton-crash-penalty-on-the-chin.html

Oh Well. I may actually watch 1 race in 2009, but I doubt it. 2008's technology, limits, and regulations seems a bit of a swan song for F1

[bettlejuice]

He was definitely NOT the best driver, and MOST definitely not deserving.


you gotta be kidding me .... lewis lost way more than kimi at that point and it was a pitstop incident and it was clearly unintentional ... massa had two unsafe releases and it was punished the same way (ooopss... actually he was not) ..... on schumi incident there was visible intention on taking jacques off track and it was season finale ... if you wanna compare you won't go to Canada but go to Japan instead when Massa hit Hamilton ... pretty much the same situation you brought from the past

[Mattk]

The thing with 1997 is that Schumacher ended up wrecking his car and lost everything, while Villeneuve finished in the points (3rd, I believe). In Canada, both drivers ended up with wrecked cars. Schumacher's unsportsmanlike conduct resulted in little disadvantage for Villeneuve.

Most drivers' form directly correlate with confidence. Lose a few, and you start getting a bit nervous. Win a few, and you're on top of the world. Alonso, for instance, was languishing mid-pack until he got a win, then another, and finished on a high.

Now, let's look at the contexts of each of those incidents. Schumacher's hit on Villeneuve was a racing incident. Hamilton's hit on Raikonnen was a pit lane incident. On the race track, people crash all the time. Schumacher was ruled to have done it deliberately. Such malice would obviously cop a massive penalty. Losing everything was his just deserts. In the pit lane, on the other hand, people don't crash all the time. Speeds are low and everything is highly regulated so as to prevent crashes. Like real roads, there are traffic lights, which Hamilton apparently didn't see. He caused an accident and his idiocy cost Raikonnen the race. The question is, was it deliberate? Is it a mere accident if you plough into a stationary car, piloted by a close championship rival? Question marks remain.

Put together, the Hamilton incident echoes the Schumacher incident. His culpability may not be as self-evident, but losing everything compared to a 10-place grid penalty for the next race is worlds apart.

[toffytofik]

LOL!

David Coulthard Brasil GP'08 autograph - YouTube

Classic DC! :mrgreen:

[arguapacha]

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHA ... I agree with coulthard!! hahahahahaahahahaha and I am colombian so I know how Montoya is like! hahahahahahahahahahaha

Ohh my... hahhahahahaha.. can't... stop... laughing!!!

[The Stig]

From all the reason given to the Ferrari fan today my favorite is the Glock let pass Lewis.

First of all no it is not the case
Second, Guys where were you after Chinese Gp and the amazing move of Massa to overtake Kimi?

With all the help from the Ferrari International Assistance to help Ferrari, all the penalties against Lewis, or Bourdais in Japan, well you should not complain.

[pitfield]

Watching Lewis celebrate his win brought a tear to my eye, briliant.

[nthfinity]

you gotta be kidding me .... lewis lost way more than kimi at that point and it was a pitstop incident and it was clearly unintentional ... massa had two unsafe releases and it was punished the same way (ooopss... actually he was not) ..... on schumi incident there was visible intention on taking jacques off track and it was season finale ... if you wanna compare you won't go to Canada but go to Japan instead when Massa hit Hamilton ... pretty much the same situation you brought from the past
IMO, the best driver this year was Alonso; and I don't like the guy. Vettel was second best.

LOL @ calling his hit of Kimi in the PIT LANE unintentional. No spray from the tires to blind, big red light, cars that are stopped at the light. Unintentional? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

[numbat91]

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!! it was a terrific race in the end.I think that the one who made Lewis Hamilton champion was Barrichello and his Honda(who was in front of them)and then when braking Glocks Toyota came across with him, lost his line and the result is known already.:detective:

[numbat91]

Sorry it was not a Honda it was Nick s Heidfeld Bmw

[turpija]

IMO, the best driver this year was Alonso; and I don't like the guy. Vettel was second best.

I agree, but I would also put Kubica up there with Alonso and Vettel, Kubica made only one mistake in whole sezone(Silverstone) and next year he is serious candidate for Championship becouse of BMW's early switch on 2009 car ;-)

[The Stig]

IMO, the best driver this year was Alonso; and I don't like the guy. Vettel was second best.

LOL @ calling his hit of Kimi in the PIT LANE unintentional. No spray from the tires to blind, big red light, cars that are stopped at the light. Unintentional? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

So Rosberg hit Lewis also intentionally also?

[mts6800]

IMO, the best driver this year was Alonso; and I don't like the guy. Vettel was second best.

LOL @ calling his hit of Kimi in the PIT LANE unintentional. No spray from the tires to blind, big red light, cars that are stopped at the light. Unintentional? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

So Rosberg hit Lewis also intentionally also?



Well I think Lewis' hit on Kimi and Rosberg's hit on Lewis were both untentional but demonstrated a loss of attention to the situation. Both definitely deserving of the 10 spot grid penalty for causing an avoidable accident. Make no mistake, they were avoidable. At first Lewis seemed to think it was a harsh penalty but I guess he later read the rule book and found out it's exactly 10 spots. Last year Massa ran the red light and there was nobody there to hit but Massa got a DQ for that. The track at Canada is such that it is very easy to catch a red light when pitting under the SC there. Pity that Canada is gone for 2009.

[Chaos in 1983!]

OMG what a race!!! that's why I love F1! I have no nails left on my hands, I was jumping up and down on the last couple of laps, man F1 can be exciting! although I was rooting for Massa to win, he truly deserves it, but to bad, I'll root again for Massa in '09.

[nthfinity]

So Rosberg hit Lewis also intentionally also?

When the car in front of you is accel, its hard to see over it at the cars who are both stopped at the light. Rosberg is wet behind the ears still, and obviously paid little attention to the light.

Logic wraps up that argument

[bettlejuice]

IMO, the best driver this year was Alonso; and I don't like the guy. Vettel was second best.

LOL @ calling his hit of Kimi in the PIT LANE unintentional. No spray from the tires to blind, big red light, cars that are stopped at the light. Unintentional? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

so what kind of advantage do you think he would got by also destroying his own car in the process?? ... i'm pretty show you know they have a couple of stuff to check on car's console and have to lower their heads to do that ....

[SHIZL]

i dont remeber who was running 2 sec a lap faster at that point in canada oh yeah it was lewis so why was he threatend by anyone there to take them out. and why was kimi lined up two wide in a pit lane ? oh well it was drama kimi wasnt his comp at the end of the year so that accident could of only helped massas bid at the championship anyway good race at brazil.rough crowd for hamilton to win the wdc getting booed wearing sennas helmet but its understandable in sports

[Mattk]

so what kind of advantage do you think he would got by also destroying his own car in the process??
The same could have been asked of Schumacher in 1997, in which he actually failed to do much damage to Villeneuve's car.

[dfarah]

I'm surprised you aren't rooting for your countryman Massa... or were you sarcastic :?:
Anyway, I prefer Massa over Hamilton :-)

Practice 3:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Alonso Renault (B) 1:12.141 19
2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.212 + 0.071 18
3. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:12.225 + 0.084 18
4. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:12.312 + 0.171 17
5. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:12.389 + 0.248 19
6. Heidfeld SPG (http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/shop_brands/spg.html) BMW Sauber (B) 1:12.402 + 0.261 19
7. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:12.426 + 0.285 18
8. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:12.453 + 0.312 18
9. Piquet Renault (B) 1:12.457 + 0.316 24
10. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:12.457 + 0.316 19
11. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:12.625 + 0.484 16
12. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:12.698 + 0.557 18
13. Glock Toyota (B) 1:12.712 + 0.571 22
14. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) 1:12.971 + 0.830 22
15. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:13.054 + 0.913 19
16. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:13.058 + 0.917 22
17. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:13.135 + 0.994 24
18. Button Honda (B) 1:13.278 + 1.137 23
19. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:13.460 + 1.319 22
20. Sutil Force India-Ferrari (B) 1:13.680 + 1.539 22


What ever the results means nothing to me. I am watching Nakajima Williams of Toyota going head to head with Coulthard Red Bull of Renault (B) having 1:13.058 + 0.917 22 1:13.054 + 0.913 19 :twisted:

[Mattk]

Uhh...a few weeks too late, perhaps?