Corvette ZR1 on Autobahn. Does 195

[FoxFour]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys7HutH54No

[enzoferrari]

Damm thanks for sharing!!the ZR1 is a beast:twisted:

[FoxFour]

I' m sure you will see plenty around South Florida soon, Enzo.

[leblanc2.0]

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LOL! Again,Germans engineering American cars.:laugh:

It will have no American sports car that does not have aid of the germanic engineers??



PLZ.Dont take it personal.:-)

[Spiffu]

Well someone has to bring the beer.

[HeilSvenska]

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LOL! Again,Germans engineering American cars.:laugh:

It will have no American sports car that does not have aid of the germanic engineers??



PLZ.Dont take it personal.:-)
No offense, but you seem very naive (I can think of worse words) in that subject. Because a company is located in United States doesn't mean it can only be made by American nationals. And you forget that GM has a large presence in Germany with Opel. Auto industry is very international and guess what, even European cars are made with American talents and technology in more ways that you'll know. Cough, Koenigsegg, cough.

[leblanc2.0]

No offense, but you seem very naive (I can think of worse words) in that subject. Because a company is located in United States doesn't mean it can only be made by American nationals. And you forget that GM has a large presence in Germany with Opel. Auto industry is very international and guess what, even European cars are made with American talents and technology in more ways that you'll know. Cough, Koenigsegg, cough.

I know that...but i was talking about supercars like you know.

You didnt understand or didnt want to understand what i said.


Koenigsegg used to have an american engine from Ford but thats it.Its not an american built supercar.

And i never said that USA didnt have american people with talent.

[Spiffu]

Then don't start shit when you don't need to.

[leblanc2.0]

Then don't start shit when you don't need to.


Calm down man. :thumbdown:

[HeilSvenska]

Then don't start shit when you don't need to.
Now that was a valid point. :mrgreen:

[79TA]

I think Spiffu pretty much summed this one up.

Who'd a thunk companies would hire people from different countries?!?! :ohmy:;-)

[leblanc2.0]

Man its all you have to say? Poor discussion.:-(

[RC45]

Calm down man. :thumbdown:

Your entiire premise was wrong though.

The ZR1 is already completed and built and on sale - just because a German-national is involved in the process of final road testing does NOT make the car "German Engineered"

Please go elsewhere to start your nonsense.

[nthfinity]

I know that...but i was talking about supercars like you know.

You didnt understand or didnt want to understand what i said.


Koenigsegg used to have an american engine from Ford but thats it.Its not an american built supercar.

And i never said that USA didnt have american people with talent.

The engine is as Sweedish as I am Korean. The company which designed and built the engine in each Koenigsegg through the CCR is about 40 miles from my home. They engineered the engine that is in the CCX, and Koenigsegg assemble it "locally" with a large amount of "american blue-coller engineering" in it.

[leblanc2.0]

Your entiire premise was wrong though.

The ZR1 is already completed and built and on sale - just because a German-national is involved in the process of final road testing does NOT make the car "German Engineered"

Please go elsewhere to start your nonsense.

See what o wrote in my 1st post.Or i need to write better english or you need to read more than once.

[leblanc2.0]

The engine is as Sweedish as I am Korean. The company which designed and built the engine in each Koenigsegg through the CCR is about 40 miles from my home. They engineered the engine that is in the CCX, and Koenigsegg assemble it "locally" with a large amount of "american blue-coller engineering" in it.


LLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL!!! WTH you are talking about? Who said that the engine was sweedish?

[HeilSvenska]

If you want to make a point, you need to clarify what you said.

[leblanc2.0]

If you want to make a point, you need to clarify what you said.


What you want that I clarify?



Koenigsegg is a poor reliable car.But i like it though.

[HeilSvenska]

That's not the point that you were trying to make, but this isn't the first time you've done this.

The fact is that you bring up empty points and try to cover it up when they are refuted.

[leblanc2.0]

That's not the point that you were trying to make, but this isn't the first time you've done this.

The fact is that you bring up empty points and try to cover it up when they are refuted.

I think you are talking about my post´s some time ago about Bugatti and SSC Ultimate Aero.

Who refuted who?

[79TA]

He was asking that you clarify your original statement about German engineers and the ZR1. RC's post was relevant, yet you reacted as if it was unrelated. That is why Heil asked you to clarify. Now you're going on tangents again.

[leblanc2.0]

He was asking that you clarify your original statement about German engineers and the ZR1. RC's post was relevant, yet you reacted as if it was unrelated. That is why Heil asked you to clarify. Now you're going on tangents again.


The better american sports car had help from foreign engineers(Germans or brits).It is a fact.Of course im not saying that the car is german.


For me the real true american sports car today is the Roush Mustang.

[nthfinity]

The better american sports car had help from foreign engineers(Germans or brits).It is a fact.Of course im not saying that the car is german.


For me the real true american sports car today is the Roush Mustang.

It's interesting...

Ferrari, Lamborghini, BMW, Audi, Mercedes Benz, Renault, Nissan, Toyota, Hayundai, Honda, and even Subaru come to Metro Detroit, Michigan, USA for help in creating technologies in their cars. No euro car can live w/out Detroit still 100 years on :) We have the best facilities, the best knowledgebase, the best engineering schools right here in Michigan.

Also, in response to your "LOLOLOL who said the engine is built in Sweeden?"
I must difur, you said that Koenigsegg build the engine themselves, to which I pointed out they only assemble it themselves. If they biuld it themselves, would that not mean they build it in Sweeden?

[deuces]

why are all the Americans on this forum so defensive about American cars? leblanc made a point/joke. take it or leave it but don't cry about it. just get on with your lives and make this forum productive by moving on. stop being asses.

[nthfinity]

why are all the Americans on this forum so defensive about American cars? leblanc made a point/joke. take it or leave it but don't cry about it. just get on with your lives and make this forum productive by moving on. stop being asses.

Sigh......

I'm generally tired of people making stupid statements saying "American cars are junk" or "American's can't build/ engineer" type BS.

So why not respond?

[RC45]

why are all the Americans on this forum so defensive about American cars? leblanc made a point/joke. take it or leave it but don't cry about it. just get on with your lives and make this forum productive by moving on. stop being asses.

Was it a point or a joke? Becasue he made no attempt to humourise it.

Then why did he start the shit he did?

Each statement he made was false, inaccurate and pointless.

So, again, what was his goal?

To just start shit?

More importantly, what is your point? Take it or leave it? We chose to take it and respond to its inaccuracies - in order for the forum to be productive people need to stop pointless shit - jokes and humour are one thing, as is obvious overt hyperbole - those are funny and enjoyable, but straight antagonistic nonsense is quite another.

[5vz-fe]

why are all the Americans on this forum so defensive about American cars? leblanc made a point/joke. take it or leave it but don't cry about it. just get on with your lives and make this forum productive by moving on. stop being asses.

ppl must be making jokes on you everyday.

[leblanc2.0]

It's interesting...

Ferrari, Lamborghini, BMW, Audi, Mercedes Benz, Renault, Nissan, Toyota, Hayundai, Honda, and even Subaru come to Metro Detroit, Michigan, USA for help in creating technologies in their cars. No euro car can live w/out Detroit still 100 years on :) We have the best facilities, the best knowledgebase, the best engineering schools right here in Michigan.

Also, in response to your "LOLOLOL who said the engine is built in Sweeden?"
I must difur, you said that Koenigsegg build the engine themselves, to which I pointed out they only assemble it themselves. If they biuld it themselves, would that not mean they build it in Sweeden?


Not necessary to exaggerate man.


I never said that i said was "Koenigsegg used to have an american engine from Ford but thats it.Its not an american built supercar.". I think i read or see a video about the engine but dont remenber what they say.


(http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/supercarvideos/220479/koenigsegg_factory_visit.html)

[leblanc2.0]

I cannot say nothing little warrantor on American cars that soon I am lynched.

[nthfinity]

Not necessary to exaggerate man.



where have I exaggerated?

[RC45]

I cannot say nothing little warrantor on American cars that soon I am lynched.

Actually you will find the same thing happen to you no matter what car you post nonsense about.

MotorWorld is about factual discussion, not heresay and lies.

[leblanc2.0]

Actually you will find the same thing happen to you no matter what car you post nonsense about.

MotorWorld is about factual discussion, not heresay and lies.

I learn something today.Nice expensive word heresay.:-D

"Hearsay is a legal term referring to the use of out of court statements as evidence." in Wikipedia

[leblanc2.0]

where have I exaggerated?


Ferrari, Lamborghini, BMW, Audi, Mercedes Benz, Renault, Nissan, Toyota, Hayundai, Honda, and even Subaru come to Metro Detroit, Michigan, USA for help in creating technologies in their cars. No euro car can live w/out Detroit still 100 years on :-) We have the best facilities, the best knowledgebase, the best engineering schools right here in Michigan.
But nice patriot speech.:thumbup::-D

[nthfinity]

But nice patriot speech.:thumbup::-D

Do you have evidence that I have exaggerated?

[10000rpmlover]

I am slightly sexually aroused... I have never been over a car... images of Anna Paquin on the passenger seat sweating profusely and tugging on the stick... yeah I need a break, be back in a few

[79TA]

^ back on topic, woot!


For crying out loud, just look up the definition of the word. While it usually applies to court scenarios, it has apporpriate meaning for other cases, like how RC used it.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay+evidence

In short, just because someone says so, doesn't mean that it is. So, one should back up their claims with actual evidence. I hope that clears things up. I'm not trying to point fingers at anyone. I'm only trying to clarify.

[leblanc2.0]

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