View Full Version : Homeowners' Ass. in TX bans Ford F150 on driveways, but not Chevy Avalanches...
HeilSvenska
08-18-2008, 10:05 PM
Absolute nonsense.
If there's one thing Texans are serious about, it's pickups.
But a Frisco man says his truck is being targeted simply because his homeowners association doesn't think it's classy enough.
Jim Greenwood said he never dreamed his HOA would have a problem with his new Ford F-150 pickup. Then he received the first of three notices threatening him with fines.
"Mr. Greenwood, you're violating a subdivision rule that prohibits pickup trucks in your driveway," the notice reads.
Stonebriar HOA rules allow several luxury trucks on driveways, including the Cadillac Escalade, Chevy Avalanche, Honda Ridgeline and Lincoln Mark LT.
But most Ford, Dodge or Chevy pickups are restricted.
"It's very frustrating and confusing. It's hard to imagine how an HOA would try to dictate what type of vehicle you can drive and park in your driveway," Mr. Greenwood said.
Bill Osborn of the HOA board said the association also prohibits boats, trailers, golf carts and RVs in driveways.
"The high-end vehicles that are allowed are plush with amenities and covers on the back. It doesn't look like a pickup," he said. "It's fancier."
Mr. Greenwood appealed, claiming his Ford F-150 isn't much different from the Lincoln Mark LT.
"The response was: 'It's our belief that Lincoln markets to a different class of people,' " he said.
"Furthermore, one board member told my wife that if we don't like it, we can move."
HOA officials said that many Stonebriar homeowners own pickups but that they abide by the rules and keep them parked in their garages.
"A Chevy Suburban can be in the driveway," Mr. Greenwood said. "If we had a big Hummer, that could be in the driveway. If we had a Lincoln Mark LT, that could be in the driveway. But a Ford F-150 can't.
"That doesn't make sense."
McKinney Ford dealer Bob Tomes agreed. In Texas, he said, truck owners should have the right to park their pickups on their driveways – even in a gated community.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/city/collin/frisco/stories/DN-friscopickups_17met.ART0.West.Edition1.4d8a269.htm l
Spiffu
08-18-2008, 11:50 PM
High class rednecks, I didn't know there was such a thing.
Are they finicky on what nights are proper for inbreeding as well?
HeilSvenska
08-18-2008, 11:52 PM
Are they finicky on what nights are proper for inbreeding as well?
Wrong part of the country.
marcefer
08-19-2008, 12:47 AM
Strange way to push freedom to the limit :thumbdown:
Your neighbours have more freedom than you yourself!
Spiffu
08-19-2008, 01:01 AM
Wrong part of the country.
If the IQ is low enough, there is the possibility.
Jacques_JDM
08-19-2008, 01:04 AM
Thats flat out stupid! seriously. what city is this?
Edit: NVM its in the Dallas Plano area. not to far from city i live in [Austin]...the funny thing is that my family and I lives in a gated community called Steiner Ranch [where homes range from mid 500,000s to 4million] and there aren't any ludicrous rules like that..
Man thats just horrible....
arguapacha
08-19-2008, 01:04 AM
:ohmy:
unwilling
08-19-2008, 02:34 AM
freedom is not defined by what is changed, but the ability to change IMO
simona
08-19-2008, 04:49 AM
putting the truck in the garage maybe a new idea to them rednecks.
well, on the bright side, atleast they recognize that Ridgelines and such aren't really useful trucks :-P
Mattk
08-19-2008, 08:39 AM
I think Greenwood may be finding out the hard way why he should have attended the homeowners' association meetings. He could have prevented this stupidity by simply speaking out.
pitfield
08-19-2008, 09:41 AM
I used to drive a van for a living and brought it home, I live in a smart square in Brighon (BN2 1FH) and some of the older residents used to attach notices to it's indscreen over night. They'd use loads of selloptape right in the drivers line of sight to make it as anoying as possible. Losers.
philip
08-19-2008, 10:56 AM
Deed restrictions are rules that you agree to when you purchase your house. Most people don't read them and then feel after they move in they have the "freedom" to do what they want.
He should have read the restrictions before he bought and moved somewhere else if he didn't want to put his pickup inside.
Maybe he liked the look of the neighborhood when he drove in what with all the pickups and boats in the garage.
Idiot.
pitfield
08-19-2008, 11:26 AM
Deed restrictions are rules that you agree to when you purchase your house. Most people don't read them and then feel after they move in they have the "freedom" to do what they want.
He should have read the restrictions before he bought and moved somewhere else if he didn't want to put his pickup inside.
Maybe he liked the look of the neighborhood when he drove in what with all the pickups and boats in the garage.
Idiot.
Idiot, I think that's a bit harsh, why would a community have such rules, it sounds to me like the other residents are nitpicking and have nothing better to do than pick on the new people on the estate.
What if he was driving a bright pink impala low rider with gold wheels and a yellow interior, is there something on the tenancy which lists that?
I think all the Escalade drivers are just jealous that the F150 is paid for ;)
dutchmasterflex
08-19-2008, 03:16 PM
Just as bad as Florida banning swinging nuts on cars. What the hell is going on down south?!
philip
08-19-2008, 05:52 PM
Idiot, I think that's a bit harsh, why would a community have such rules, it sounds to me like the other residents are nitpicking and have nothing better to do than pick on the new people on the estate.
What if he was driving a bright pink impala low rider with gold wheels and a yellow interior, is there something on the tenancy which lists that?
Everyone wants their 15 minutes of fame and moral outrage, this is his.
Most new subdivisions have very restrictive deed restrictions. No clotheslines, must cut your grass every week etc.
My subdivision has a tree preservation clause. You can cut every tree down on your property if you hate trees, you just can not do it to build a new house.
My favorites are in Phoenix, where the color blend of the rock in your front yard (in place of the grass) must be "just so".
Usually this same story is about a retired purple heart Viet Nam veteran in Florida who moves into a neighborhood that prohibits flagpoles and of course puts up a flagpole.
The bright pink impala low rider with gold wheels and yellow interior is what you buy to spite the subdivision for bitching about the pickup. :-)
mogwai
08-19-2008, 07:45 PM
Most new subdivisions have very restrictive deed restrictions. No clotheslines, must cut your grass every week etc.
Pretty soon developers will be dying for anyone to be moving into their subdivision the way housing here in the states is going. :ohmy:
mog
Pokiou
08-19-2008, 07:47 PM
HAHAH
and to think:
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave? hahaha
i think he should tell them the oath he has taken and his rights.
Mattk
08-19-2008, 10:53 PM
^Actually, it's not really his land. He just owns a percentage of the entire land that the estate covers. The estate is run by the homeowners' association which sets rules, and assisted by professionals which deal with maintenance, security, etc. The same goes with apartment blocks. Any rules can be set. Abiding by them is compulsory.
Lightbane
08-20-2008, 09:09 AM
He should go out and buy an allowed truck thats many years old. Then let the damn thing rot in his driveway. Maybe paint a big middle finger on it.
graywolf624
08-20-2008, 07:55 PM
Actually, it's not really his land
Ummm.. No.. Your confusing Condos/Appartments/Town homes with homeowners associations. He owns the land.. no if ands are butts. There is a restriction on the deed that means he has to follow the rules of the homeowners association. It does have restrictions and requires voting of majority of members. Abiding by them has limits, they can be challenged in court.
philip
08-20-2008, 09:57 PM
Generally in Texas a homeowners association has a first lien after the mortgage on the property.
Although homeowner association rights have been reduced here in Texas recently, due to evicting an 85 year old widow out of her house because she didnt pay her $150 dues, they still have alot of power.
Professional management companies are the worse. If you do something wrong they will hire an attorney to send you a letter telling you to cut your grass, and will include a $250 bill for sending you the letter. If you dont immediately pay the bill, they will sue you for payment and hold their lien over your head to get you to pay, and now the bill is $1500 cause they had to sue you.
I'm sure this is what has happened to this guy.
Nowhere in the article does it state that the Home Owner's Association just passed a rule disallowing common pickup trucks.
While I think the rule may be stupid, it is not as stupid as Mr. Greenwood. As part of the process of buying his home, Greenwood had the opportunity to read the covenants, codesand restrictions as well as any and all HOA regulations.
The regulation was there before he completed the sale. 99.99% of all residential real estate contracts contain inspection clauses allowing a buyer to back out if the condition of the property, CC&Rs,ttitle, HOA regulation, etc., etc. are not what they were presented as.
Greenwood is an idiot for not reading the HOA rules. He's a bigger idiot for signing off on his inspection clauses without reading them. If his contractdidn't give him the opportinity to examine and approve the HOA regs, he is an ass for signing it.
That said, he should examine the HOA regulations in detail. I am sure there are plenty of non-regulated acvtivities he could engage in to piss off the assoiciation.
I'm thinking a back-yard party for up and comming gansta rappers and gang members as a start.
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