2010 Ford Mustang Countdown and spy pictures

[HeilSvenska]

Yes, yes. The Mustang had live rear axle, yada yada yada. We've all heard that before.
But the Mustang was always about affordable V8. Secretary car with style, etc...

http://www.fordvehicles.com/the2010mustang/

Released sometimes in November, just in time for the LA Auto Show. :mrgreen:

[Spiffu]

By all the spy shots of seen so far of test mules, the new cars being based on this.

http://seriouswheels.com/cars/top-2006-Ford-Mustang-Giugiaro-Concept.htm

If ford get's there shit together, they'll stop catering to the drag racing crowd and bring the mustang into the 21st century.

[pagani]

By all the spy shots of seen so far of test mules, the new cars being based on this.

http://seriouswheels.com/cars/top-2006-Ford-Mustang-Giugiaro-Concept.htm

If ford get's there shit together, they'll stop catering to the drag racing crowd and bring the mustang into the 21st century.
The need to have indepent rear suspension.
Not more ancient shit.
And than ford wil have a real winner.
:-)

[nthfinity]

I've seen this car with NO camo, and the next gen GT500 with no camo. The car really does look "that" much better. In some ways, it looks like how the Nissan GTR "should have looked" The 500's front vents are better then the current GT500, but not quite as cool (nor expensive) as the GT500 KR.

The competition will be very surprised by the base GT... VERY surprised.

[Minacious]

I've seen this car with NO camo, and the next gen GT500 with no camo. The car really does look "that" much better. In some ways, it looks like how the Nissan GTR "should have looked" The 500's front vents are better then the current GT500, but not quite as cool (nor expensive) as the GT500 KR.

The competition will be very surprised by the base GT... VERY surprised.

Does it look like that concept above?

[nthfinity]

Does it look like that concept above?

The nose isn't so terribly different. basically, a lower nose with a more pronounced chin. The way the lower door sil line goes into the window sill/ fender flair is nice (not a direct contiguous line) and the rear end is reworked a little.... finally LED sequentially activated tail lights...

and power.... :D

[fabro_s]

The nose isn't so terribly different. basically, a lower nose with a more pronounced chin. The way the lower door sil line goes into the window sill/ fender flair is nice (not a direct contiguous line) and the rear end is reworked a little.... finally LED sequentially activated tail lights...

and power.... :D

Hey nth, how did you get to see it first than anybody :?::thumbup:

Is it like the Guigiaro Cocnept in terms of looks, similar???

Does it look better than the Camaro?????

Lucky you!

[nthfinity]

Hey nth, how did you get to see it first than anybody :?::thumbup:

Is it like the Guigiaro Cocnept in terms of looks, similar???

Does it look better than the Camaro?????

Lucky you!

It is based on the S197's looks, just modified. Some people may be dissatisfied that it's not a "whole new body" but that is just stupid talk. We are just 3 years into the current cycle. The SN95 took all of 5 years before there was a significant body re-sculpting.

It does, however, look very good.

It is no Guigiaro

How did I see it? Well, we can't all kiss and tell.... especially with prying eyes.

[Spiffu]

It had better not be a S197 with just a few new panels, new front end etc. They need a new chassis and suspension for the car.

[r2r]

Seen a disguised one cruising on Woodward today!

The new one has pretty much identical proportions as the current one.

[nthfinity]

It had better not be a S197 with just a few new panels, new front end etc. They need a new chassis and suspension for the car.

New suspension and new chassis? ..... I've got to be careful not to insult you here... but do you have ANY idea how advanced the chassis on the Mustang is? Ford laid down a serious gauntlet, where the car's handling limiting factor is far far far from the chassis; it is the corporate suspension, which can easily be rectified with some components from the aftermarket.

When you start seeing the lap times of the heavy GT500 KR, you might get my drift; but I'm still not so sure.

[HeilSvenska]

and the rear end is reworked a little.... finally LED sequentially activated tail lights...

and power.... :D
LOL, really? That's pretty awesome.

[79TA]

New suspension and new chassis? ..... I've got to be careful not to insult you here... but do you have ANY idea how advanced the chassis on the Mustang is? Ford laid down a serious gauntlet, where the car's handling limiting factor is far far far from the chassis; it is the corporate suspension, which can easily be rectified with some components from the aftermarket.

When you start seeing the lap times of the heavy GT500 KR, you might get my drift; but I'm still not so sure.


S197 suspension geometry is very well thought out. These cars, unlike foxes and SN95's, aren't going to need all sorts of new mounting points for a good racing suspension (FR500C anyone?) While I wish I had the understanding to argue the chassis tuning points myself, I'll just make an appeal to authority here and reference Grassroots Motorsports Magazine.

The Mustang should come with IRS, even if only to make the whiners shut up, but it bothers me that all that went into the current 3-link set up is completely ignored. Nevermind that most of the IRS whiners don't even understand the advantages of IRS in any sort of depth. If they were teenage girls, one might think IRS was an essential fashion accessory. It's not like I hear them complaining about the importance of camber control over bumpy surfaces or anything. For all they care, the Mustang might as well have front leaf springs. If one really intends to go 7-10/10's around corners (not that likely around town) on bumpy roads, then that person has every right to want IRS. If not, they probably just want another feature to brag about on their car, not unlike pickup truck owners who never haul anything. None of that is intended as a stab at members of this forum, who thankfully tend to be more on top of things, but rather the average unsubstantiated rhetoric that one finds at car meets and in half-hearted car reviews from publications that aren't primarily automotive in theme.

IRS should be standard on some of the performance models (Shelby's for sure) but the live axle should remain an option for anyone with serious drag racing pretentions. The V6's that make up 2/3's of the sales don't seem worthy of IRS.

If anything, I'd like to see the Shelby cars in a somehow lighter form. Carbon fiber? Fiberglass? Less sound deadener and other luxuries? I don't know what they'd do, but the Mustang isn't a car that should ever weigh two tons (3950 or however much the GT500 weighed.)

SIgh, I'm not exactly looking forward to the '10 reveal, because I absolutely love the looks of the current 'stang. Time marches on though.

[nthfinity]

FYI

the chassis on the S197 is more rigid then a SN95 with a FULL roll cage. It is so rigid, that engineers had to design areas for flex to be stressed at, as it was almost "too rigid"

TA, you really are making some fantastic content here lately :)

[Spiffu]

I am well aware of the hidden talents of the S197, I know as much from the mods I have done to my own car. And I know how well the racing variants have done in the the Grand Am series.

However, I want to see the new iteration be a well represented, technically equipped and well powered. I want the stock car to be the equivalent of the Corvette in it's price range. I don't want to hear about "well if you do this mod to it, it'll be as good." No, Ford can't rely on that kind of word of mouth anymore.

I want to see the new stang being tuned around the Nurburgring.

[79TA]

I don't want to hear about "well if you do this mod to it, it'll be as good."


I think that's the biggest reason that IRS needs to be available as an option or standard feature.

[HeilSvenska]

http://jalopnik.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2008/08/2010-new-mustang-emblem.jpg
New enblem.

"We lifted the head to make the pony more proud, tipped the neck into the wind to give it a feeling of greater speed and better balance... It’s more chiseled and more defined and looks more like a wild horse... It’s more realistic in terms of proportion to an actual Mustang.”

[graywolf624]

I think that's the biggest reason that IRS needs to be available as an option or standard feature.
Dunno about that.. The last IRS sucked so bad the road racers swapped in the stick axle. They need to design the car from the ground up for one or the other. Both doesnt work.

that went into the current 3-link set up is completely ignored
The only problem with the 3 link setup is it sucks over bumps. Otherwise its a good setup, mind you its the one the competitors across the road have been using on fbodies for damn near 30 years.

the chassis on the S197 is more rigid then a SN95 with a FULL roll cage.
No offense but that isn't saying much. You could drive an sn95 up on a 2 foot curve and only one wheel would be off the ground. The new chasis is much more workable then the previous, respectable even.. but its not a new standard either.

[79TA]

Interesting. I'd heard plenty about people dumping the IRS for drag racing, but not road racing. I wouldn't mind a watt's link rear suspension setup. The current 3-link doesn't get the respect it deserves, but people can't get past the solid rear axle. Hopefully they can get a good IRS in just for the sake of avoiding more random criticism.

[graywolf624]

It would be harder to find a racer with one then without. The wats links and pan hard rod setups were popular with the hardcore.

[HeilSvenska]

http://jalopnik.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2008/08/2010-Ford-Mustang_Hood.jpg
Cowlicious

[HeilSvenska]

http://jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12/2008/09/medium_2842132645_8b31b39b7a_o.jpg
http://jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12/2008/09/medium_2842967336_16d5339c6f_o.jpg
Ponylicious

[nthfinity]

Thats @ I 275 in Novi/ Northville

[fordgt84]

i'm likin what i see :-), especially the front end

[silentm]

looks like they will be stuffing a big motor under that hood, good to see :)

[79TA]

It'll be interesting to see if they go through with the Boss motor after they release Ecoboost versions.

[HeilSvenska]

GT500
http://jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12/2008/09/medium_2844265760_33147f21e3_o.jpg
http://jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12/2008/09/medium_2843428537_0d06ca602c_o.jpg

[79TA]

I don't know what to think of it yet. It looks like all Mustangs are getting the current GT500 grill treatment. I really hope the next one has dimensions more similar to the foxbody. Of course, this wasn't supposed to be an entirely new model or anything.

[Spiffu]

There's no change, dunno why they have camo on it.

[MidEngine4Life]

Doesnt look much different. Camaro and Challenger still look better. We'll see how it turns out.

P.S. is that a rear diffuser I see? Mustang + Aerodynamics = Wha?

[79TA]

^ Look at Spiffu's car and you might recognize that spoiler, hehe.

[HeilSvenska]

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[FoxFour]

The previous IRS that was put in the '99-'04 Cobras was just a carryover design from the MN-12 chassis Thunderbird/Cougar. Therefor not designed for the power potential of the Cobra. Higher durometer bushings and switching to heavier duty half shafts (If I remember correctly, and correct me if I'm wrong, the '99 model had half shafts that were designed for the Explorer 4X4 model) But it was still a heavy-ass assembly.
Just to get off track a little bit, the SN-95 platform/ Fox4 chassis did have shortcomings, but what would have happened if Ford did give John Coletti the serious cash infusion like they did with the S-197 program? I can tell you it would have been a very different animal than it is today. Most people here are familiar with Ford making the Mustang into a front-wheel drive, 4 cylinder car, that car later turned out to be sold as the Probe, and that idea was shelved by thousands of angry letters sent to Ford HQ.
Taken from Road and Track, Guide to the new 1994 Ford Mustang:
So in August 1989, Coletti was asked by Alex Trotman, then head of Ford's North AmericanAutomotive Operations, to form a '"skunk team'" to investigate the possibility of building a new Mustang "'We formed a team-it was made up of eight people-and we started meeting in my office every Thursday night at 4 o'clock, because this was in addition to our normal jobs.
Getting the Go Ahead:
" In May1990, I went to Mr. Trotman and said 'We'd like to continue from now until October with almost no cost to you. Just give us the green light to go to October, and in October we'll give you the full lowdown,"' says Coletti.
'"We made him a deal he couldn't refuse. And basically he went for it''
In September 1990, Ford senior management approved the idea of building a new Mustang around existing powertrain and chassis hardware, but as long as a tight schedule and even tighter budget could be met.
So basically the 1994 Mustang was designed inside an old Montgomery Ward warehouse south of Dearborn and brought the Mustang program to fruition in 35 months, previous new car programs ran at least 48 months.
Actually the engineers on that program wanted an SLA front end setup and IRS, but were just happy to keep the Mustang alive .
Even though my next car is leaning towards the 2010 G8 ST , I have heard rumblings of a 2010 Mustang SVO powered by a 300+ HP 4 cylinder EcoBoost engine. Since I have an affinity to that particular car, owning one for 12 plus years and driving that car in my early twenties, good memories, I just may have to keep an eye out on that particular car when it comes out.

[79TA]

Cool. I didn't know that about the '94 model. They saved a lot of sales for Ford by keeping the real Mustang alive.

I'm looking forward to seeing this Mustang at the L.A. Auto Show. Man, that's coming up really quickly now.

[nthfinity]

So basically the 1994 Mustang was designed inside an old Montgomery Ward warehouse south of Dearborn and brought the Mustang program to fruition in 35 months, previous new car programs ran at least 48 months.
Actually the engineers on that program wanted an SLA front end setup and IRS, but were just happy to keep the Mustang alive .
Even though my next car is leaning towards the 2010 G8 ST , I have heard rumblings of a 2010 Mustang SVO powered by a 300+ HP 4 cylinder EcoBoost engine. Since I have an affinity to that particular car, owning one for 12 plus years and driving that car in my early twenties, good memories, I just may have to keep an eye out on that particular car when it comes out.

Not inaccurate stories... the GT will be ~400 hp n/a.

My friend Peter was heading that montgomery ward warehouse way back when ;) Nice to see it mentioned in publication

[79TA]

400 hp for the "standard" GT. You just made my day. :-)

[dutchmasterflex]

Looks pretty much the same.. All comes down to looks and power to me when deciding between the 3 new muscle and pony cars.. and it has to be the Challenger, just because it looks so much better than the other 2.

[kach22i]

I've saw three spotted camo Mustangs on US 23 just north of Ann Arbor a couple of weeks ago, no pictures the sun was setting and I was going south, just no time to take pictures.

More pictures:
2010 Mustang with leopard-skin spotted camo
http://jalopnik.com/5047064/2010-ford-mustang-in-the-nude

They fixed the boxy truck-like front, but messed with the perfect rear.

It's like the Night Gallery mermaid. :mrgreen:

The rear is growing on me, it does soften the car and matches the front treatments.


These pictures were done back in October 2002 (6 years ago). I traced over a rendering in one of the major car magazines and added many touches I thought the car should have (was not the first time). I posted them over at Blue Oval News and Brad's Mustang site, and perhaps a few other forums. Most people seemed to like the suggestions I drew in.

I suppose I could see into the future better than most.;)

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Mustang/kach-blue1.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Mustang/Kach-blue2.jpg



I did some more drawings of the new Mustang a few years later(w/personal mods). Once a large two page ad came out I hit it with some "white-out" and magic marker for changes I would like to see. A guy over at Blue Oval News posting as Timmm55 then touched it up in photoshop.

How close did we get?


http://s184.photobucket.com/albums/x295/kach22i/Mustang/
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads14/22kachzzijpg1223661341.jpg

[enzoferrari]

Mustang is coming back!~

[kach22i]

Concept Photos
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/17/la-preview-2010-ford-mustang-finally-unveiled/

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/11/02_xx2010mustanglive.jpg

I love this headlight detail, a salute to the 1970 Mustang.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/11/14_xx2010mustanglive.jpg

I question the trapazoid rear tail lights and the canting in of the rear.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/11/02_mustang2010.jpg

I love the addition of "hips".

I love the lowering of the front hood edge height.

This redo is very much like the changes I drew several years ago and posted on the Internet. They even copied the color of my highlight marker.

Where is my free Mustang? :D

[79TA]

400 hp for the "standard" GT. You just made my day. :-)


awww, for now we'll settle with the 315 hp 4.6 litre intake and mild exhaust combo.