1995 Corvette ZR-1 best vette ... ever?

[nthfinity]

does anybody know what the skidpad for this vehicle is. its also faster then a z06 despite what the published numbers say. redline is higher, torque curve is longer.
on a second thought, it would be really funny to put the black widdow [350 cid about 550hp*] in a fiat (any of them)... im not sure if the tires would go up in a ball of smoke and flame, or if the frame would twist?

*LT-5 :)

[godspeed06]

i like the 2004 Z06 the best. in black of course.

[DurangoBob]

The ZR-1 was a very very cool car, but so is the ZO6. But I would much rather have the Callaway Sledgehammer! 800 very streetable HP. top speed of 254 mph, and it is quick too! Plus it handels well and gives a nice ride!

D-Bob

[nthfinity]

z06 is great, dont get me wrong cause i love the car (and perfer its exterior styling). but the zr1 has the engine, and top end the stock z06 doesnt. but as always, its always a battle for looks/straight/lateral accelleration :) the Sledgehammer is awsome, check out the linginfelter TT vette done back in 2000 i believe 0-60 in an unbelievable 1.97 seconds, and as you say, very streetable

[Defiler]

The ZR-1 was a very very cool car, but so is the ZO6. But I would much rather have the Callaway Sledgehammer! 800 very streetable HP. top speed of 254 mph, and it is quick too! Plus it handels well and gives a nice ride!

D-Bob

And you forgot a 0-60 in 2.9sec. Holy carap that was a fast car. But 400K?!?!?! No thanks.

[yg60m]

I like it a lot too, lot of caracter, THE engine (elaborated by Lotus) and a great look.

[BlackTransWS6]

I agree with nthfinity, the LT5 was a kickass motor. You can pick up that lingenfelter package at much less than 400k, so in the supercar arena, im gonna go with ligenfelter. Check out his website, its kickass.

[nthfinity]

I like it a lot too, lot of caracter, THE engine (elaborated by Lotus) and a great look.
dont you mean Mercury Motors?

[RC45]

I like it a lot too, lot of caracter, THE engine (elaborated by Lotus) and a great look.
dont you mean Mercury Motors?

Lotus designed, and Mercury Marine built.

[CMonakar]

It's only a matter of time before someone drops a tweaked dohc caddy XLR motor into the C6. :)

[Nemisis8u]

It's only a matter of time before someone drops a tweaked dohc caddy XLR motor into the C6. :)

Why would any one do a dumb ass thing like that? The new engine aleady makes 400hp. That is the last thing I see any one doing. Why would you downgrade? Oh I get, because it is pushrod and does not have 4 valves per cylinder :roll:

Edit: Sweet car BTW :D

[FoxFour]

The only thing that really did the ZR1 was that it looked too much like an ordinary 'Vette. Which in my opinion, was a good thing ( sucker someone approaching at a stoplight, for instance) If you looked at the car from the rear, though, those rear flared fenders with the ultra-wide tires really stuck out, so to speak, even more so in a yellow ZR-1. And yes, the ZR-1 engine was engineered by Lotus and built by Mercury Marine , because of their expertise in building aluminum engines. I also remember the problems that customers had with their engines, and the only way that these engines could be serviced was by shipping them back to Mercury for repairs. Imagine the anger that these customers must have experienced after they have learned that their local dealership had mechanics that were not experienced in these sort of engines!

[mustang07]

I like the 1971 454 corvettes with 425 horsepower. The options either the ZR1 or ZR2 packages, basically for track racing. Two of the rarest options that year. In Mulsanne Blue.

[Garretts_turbo]

i prefer the styling of the Z06 to the ZR-1, but the ZR-1 is a pretty wicked little package. i never liked the look of any of the C4 cars, but the sleeper potential is very high. :lol: :lol:

[number77]

well. i don't know about the best, but the best of its time, most definitely. the engine was a masterpiece. we're talking about 4 cams. very advanced for its time. the only problem would be finding someone certified to work on it, lol :D

[Anonymous]

its a nice car but its not all that

I saw one get beat in the 1/4 mile by a civic @ the CAlifornia speedway

[nthfinity]

shady view from the stands, eh?
if a ZR-1 was beat at the 1/4th by a civic, the civic was likely to have more invested in it then the total cost of the ZR-1, which is currently the most expensive vette when it was new. also, im guessing the vette driver was doing shitty, and may have been shitty himself :)
which would you rather own for the porpose of going fast... im quite sure that civic you saw was not an everyday machine, whilst the zr1 can handle it, just not much space for extras

[coloradosilver]

does anybody know what the skidpad for this vehicle is. its also faster then a z06 despite what the published numbers say. redline is higher, torque curve is longer.
on a second thought, it would be really funny to put the black widdow [350 cid about 550hp*] in a fiat (any of them)... im not sure if the tires would go up in a ball of smoke and flame, or if the frame would twist?

*LT-5 :)

The 95 ZR-1 stock will turn .90g on the pad. It's a great car, but you can get sooo much more for the money. New, those cars cost over $70,000 back in 1995. It was more of a milestone or important car than it was a great car.

[sentra_dude]

I love the ZR-1...but DAMN was that an expensive car. It was almost $70,000 in 1995(?) when they discontinued it, when a Supra cost $50,000 and a 911 Carrera cost about $60,000. But, man, oh man, talk about an engine...wonderful car. :twisted:

If offered either car, I would take the ZR-1 over the Z06 just because its so understated for its performance, and I like the ZR-1's looks over the Z06. However, if it was my money, definitely Z06, easier to mod, and work on.

[Nocturn]

I'd take the Zr1 for styling and power, the LS1 based engines don't have enough torque feeling for my taste.

[gigdy]

http://www.fast-autos.net/chevrolet/67chevroletcorvette.html

id say that is one of my favorite vettes 1967 stingray with a 427

[RC45]

If asked to vote - mine would be for one od the 2 '69 ZL1's... :D

http://www.fast-autos.net/chevrolet/chevroletcorvettezl1.html

http://www.fast-autos.net/chevrolet/corvettezl12.jpg

[RC45]

I'd take the Zr1 for styling and power, the LS1 based engines don't have enough torque feeling for my taste.

Sure - if you say so... :roll:

[Nocturn]

I do, I drove an LS1 SS, and my brothers LT1 Z28 and the LS1 just didn't feel like it pulled as hard despite the fact that it was probably faster.

[RC45]

I do, I drove an LS1 SS, and my brothers LT1 Z28 and the LS1 just didn't feel like it pulled as hard despite the fact that it was probably faster.

If you say so... :roll:

[Nocturn]

I do lol, doesn't mean your car is slow or anything just I prefer the LT1 based engines.

[RC45]

I do lol, doesn't mean your car is slow or anything just I prefer the LT1 based engines.

I didn't say you said my car was slow - just indicating that your opinion didn't match reality.

[Nocturn]

I don't understand how you can say my opinion doesn't match reality, its my opinion just as you have yours. Doesn't mean either one isn't as valid as the other. I drove both engines and like one over the other, theres no reason for you to get offended by it.

[RC45]

I don't understand how you can say my opinion doesn't match reality, its my opinion just as you have yours. Doesn't mean either one isn't as valid as the other. I drove both engines and like one over the other, theres no reason for you to get offended by it.

Not offended at all.

But to say "engine 1" feels better than "engine 2" when you drove 2 different CARS - not 2 similar cars with different engines... you are commenting on the feel of the car - the entire package - NOT the engines..

Nice try though... ;)

[Nocturn]

But the two cars were similiar I'm not talking about the LS6 since I havn't driven one of those, but I drove an SS, and Z28, 02/97 and the LT1 felt like it pulled harder. Both Camaros, both standards. I did dive a base model Vette and it felt a bit better but not by much (auto though).

[RC45]

But the two cars were similiar I'm not talking about the LS6 since I havn't driven one of those, but I drove an SS, and Z28, 02/97 and the LT1 felt like it pulled harder. Both Camaros, both standards. I did dive a base model Vette and it felt a bit better but not by much (auto though).

So you are comparing a 1997 LT1 SS and a 1998 LS1 Z28? Or a 97 Z28 vs a 98 SS?

Both auto or M6?

Still - as I say - if you say so... ;)

[Nocturn]

a 97 Z with a 02 SS, both M6.

[5.7 V10]

Not i my opinion, i say the 1963 Chevrolet Corvette Z06.

http://www.fast-autos.net/chevrolet/63z06.jpg

[RC45]

Well - big brakes and an endurance tank make the car a "factpory racer" - but I have yet to develop and real "love" for the mid-year Vettes shape... I like em... just not love em.. :P

I really like the early C3's - my favourite being the '69 - maybe one day the mid-years will grow on me... ;)

[nthfinity]

ive driven a M6 2000 camero Z28, and a 96 M6 T/A .... the LS1 definately felt faster, and more broad a torque curve... both chassis have similar wights, and weight ratios. but i guess thats just my opinoin lol. ill take the LS1 over the LT1 any day.

i agree the C4 styling is a bit aged compared with the C5. the ZR-1 handling charactaristics can be modified to go from extream to z06- like, but there is just no comparing the motors by perfromance numbers alone. just the price tag :shock: :roll:

[RC45]

a 97 Z with a 02 SS, both M6.

And the 97 is completely stock? You drove them back to back or 5 years apart?

These all make a difference on how your "seat of the pants meter" perceives the ride.

1997 Z28
LT1 V8
10.5:1
5.7l
305 @ 5200
335 @ 4000
M6
3.42:1
3310lbs

2002 SS
LS1 V8
10.1:1
5.7l
310 @ 5200
340 @ 4000
M6
3.42:1
3390lbs

But, just by numbers - I'll give you that much to say they are close enough to cause a "biased" person to come to the incorrect conclusion... ;)

[nthfinity]

5,670 cc
325 @ 5200 RPM
350 @ 4000 RPM
6000 RPM

2002 camero SS vs your nubmers are the Z28 of the same year

also note, that its been said that the LS1 was pushing close to 350hp at the crank....

[RC45]

5,670 cc
325 @ 5200 RPM
350 @ 4000 RPM
6000 RPM

2002 camero SS vs your nubmers are the Z28 of the same year

also note, that its been said that the LS1 was pushing close to 350hp at the crank....

My bad... ;) I have found 3 online sources incorrectly listing the 2002 SS specs..

BUt where are you getting the "recorded" 350 figure form?

[nthfinity]

i think it was a Chevy tuner magazine back when they got ahold of it in 2002... i dont own the magazine, but my roommate who is the local GM enthusiast has said that to me. i know its trap times are quite segnificantly faster then the Z28's with only 15 more hp, and 10 more ft. lbs. i suppose it could be due to a better torque curve, but i dont know.

its more heresay at this point. ive never been in an SS... im just able to compare the 'normal' v8's

[Nocturn]

Its pretty common knowledge on LS1 forums that the LS1 in the fbody is pretty much the exact same as it is in the vette, people have had their SS's hit from 300-320 RWHP on stock components. I imagine it looses some HP to the non dual exhaust on the fbody, but other than that I think its pretty much the exact same.

The actual cars were different, the SS had the SLP centermount cat back exhaust/ram air intake, and the Z28 had cold air induction and borla cat back.

Granted the SS feels fast, but it just didn't put me in the seats like the Z28 did.

[RC45]

Its pretty common knowledge on LS1 forums that the LS1 in the fbody is pretty much the exact same as it is in the vette, people have had their SS's hit from 300-320 RWHP on stock components. I imagine it looses some HP to the non dual exhaust on the fbody, but other than that I think its pretty much the exact same.

The actual cars were different, the SS had the SLP centermount cat back exhaust/ram air intake, and the Z28 had cold air induction and borla cat back.

Granted the SS feels fast, but it just didn't put me in the seats like the Z28 did.

Come back when you have a stock vs stock comparison ... ;)

Now we find out that the cars had intakes and exhausts etc - who knows what the state of tuning on either car was :P

[nthfinity]

I imagine it looses some HP to the non dual exhaust on the fbody

ive never seen a single exhaust on a V8 Fbody......? let alone on any Corvette

[Nocturn]

Well the fbody's exhaust merges into a single pipe after the manifolds, then splits at the muffler.

Well the 02 was a dealer, and the 97 was my brothers car. 02 had about 700 miles on it, with the SLP parts. Ram air hood and cat back, where the 97 had what we put on it. Seems a reasonable comparison to me, the 97 may have had a bit more off the line, but the 02 would of had more come higher speeds with the RA set-up.

[RC45]

;) If you say so.. :P

But head over to LS1Tech and start telling all those LS1 disciples that an LT1 is "the SB" ;)

[nthfinity]

Well the fbody's exhaust merges into a single pipe after the manifolds, then splits at the muffler

i am not familiar with this..... um....

anyway, RC45.... is it just me, or is this kinda amusing ?

If you say so..

[RC45]

Refering to this whole LT1 vs LS1 thing? Or "If you say so"?

[nthfinity]

well, both really. :wink:

in all honesty, he could've created a new topic on the subject. its nice that hes not just totally post whoring... most of what he is writing in the various topics are different, but seem to be not always related to what was said.

[RC45]

And that's exactly why I say what I say - our esteemed colleague from Austin compared the LT1 and LS1 and "He says" the LT1 feels stronger.. (in 3 different discussions mind you ;))....

[nthfinity]

And that's exaclty why I say what I say - our esteemed collegue from Austin compared the LT1 and LS! and "He says" the LT1 feels stronger.. (in 3 different discussions mind you )....


yeah, as i love american cars, i quite regularly post here, and read up... and ive seen them all. at least he likes a beefy v8..... albiet, 'dull' sounding stock v8 lol
doesnt quite seem like a 24 year old to me. but im wrong enough of the time :roll:

[Nocturn]

Well I figure it beats a whole topic about something thats easily discussed in a current one. I like all cars not just beefy V8's and sports cars. I am yet to drive a GTO which supposedly has more ass in the seat feel than the ol fbody does, but as I said I am yet to drive one. It's all just a matter of perception and opinion. Nothing to start name calling over.

The LT1 is not my choice of engine had I any to choose from, but between the LT and LS1's I choose the LT1.

I originally only had this topic in one thread, but it was spread by other people bringing it up in other threads.

[RC45]

I originally only had this topic in one thread, but it was spread by other people bringing it up in other threads.

Problem solved :) You have a thread now.

[Nocturn]

LOL solves that problem.