[SPOILER] 2008 Canada GP

[Carbodiox]

I Practice


1. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1.17,553 14 laps
2. Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1.17,809 12 laps
3. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren 1.18,133 10 laps
4. Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1.18,182 13 laps
5. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1.18,292 12 laps
6. Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1.18,303 8 laps
7. Mark Webber Red Bull 1.18,712 11 laps
8. David Coulthard Red Bull 1.18,809 12 laps
9. Kazuki Nakajima Williams 1.18,971 24 laps
10. Fernando Alonso Renault 1.19,005 13 laps
11. Nico Rosberg Williams 1.19,093 20 laps
12. Sebastian Vettel Toro Rosso 1.19,228 21 laps
13. Timo Glock Toyota 1.19,346 28 laps
14. Jarno Trulli Toyota 1.19,568 31 laps
15. Giancarlo Fisichella Force India 1.19,815 16 laps
16. Adrian Sutil Force India 1.19,888 15 laps
17. Nelson Piquet Jr Renault 1.20,091 23 laps
18. Rubens Barrichello Honda 1.20,173 17 laps
19. Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 1.20,541 16 laps
20. Jenson Button Honda 1.21,542 17 laps

II practice


1. Hamilton 1.15,752 42
2. Kubica 1.16,023 41
3. Raikkonen 1.16,093 39
4. Kovalainen 1.16,331 36
5. Massa 1.16,413 27
6. Heidfeld 1.16,589 43
7. Webber 1.16,604 39
8. Rosberg 1.16,767 37
9. Vettel 1.17,019 43
10. Trulli 1.17,068 46
11. Nakajima 1.17,242 37
12. Coulthard 1.17,334 31
13. Barrichello 1.17,462 39
14. Fisichella 1.17,508 39
15. Glock 1.17,549 31
16. Bourdais 1.17,559 38
17. Alonso 1.17,644 30
18. Sutil 1.17,813 37
19. Button 1.17,842 39
20. Piquet 1.18,076 17

I think it is going to be interesting

Hieidfeld wants to fight back
Kubica wants his first win
Raikkonen wants to take the lead
Hamilton - no comments
Massa wants to show that he's capable of winnig anywhere
Kovalainen wants to show that he's not useless

[Wonderduck]

...and Alonso wants to show that he can get through the turn 1/2 complex without throwing his car offtrack.

[Spiffu]

Yay! Finally a race that I don't have to get up at 4:30am for!

10:00am PST for qualifying tomorrow.

[Mattk]

A few top drivers failed last race, so it'll be interesting to see what approach they'll take here. All guns blazing or a more measured, low-risk approach.

[styla21]

Is there anything but guns blazing in F1? Time difference for this one sucks for me. Practice kicks off at midnight, qualifying around 3am. :-)

[Carbodiox]

Qualifying results

1. line:
Lewis Hamilton (GB/McLaren-Mercedes) 1.17,886
Robert Kubica (Pol/BMW-Sauber) 1.18,498

2. line:
Kimi Raikkonen (Fin/Ferrari) 1.18,735
Fernando Alonso (Esp/Renault) 1.18,746

3. line:
Nico Rosberg (Ger/Williams) 1.18,844
Felipe Massa (Bra/Ferrari) 1.19,048

4. line:
Heikki Kovalainen (Fin/McLaren-Mercedes) 1.19,089
Nick Heidfeld (Ger/BMW-Sauber) 1.19,633

5. line:
Rubens Barrichello (Bra/Honda) 1.20,848
Mark Webber (Aus/Red Bull) 1.17.523 (didn't start in Q3)

6. line:
Timo Glock (Ger/Toyota) 1.18,031
Kazuki Nakajima (Jap/Williams) 1.18,062

7. line:
David Coulthard (GB/Red Bull) 1.18,238
Jarno Trulli (Ita/Toyota) 1.18,327

8. line:
Nelson Piquet Jr. (Bra/Renault) 1.18,393
Adrian Sutil (Ger/Force India) 1.19,108

9. line:
Giancarlo Fisichella (Ita/Force India) 1.19,165
Jenson Button (GB/Honda) 1.23,565

10. line:
Sebastien Bourdais (Fra/Toro Rosso) 1.18,916
Sebastian Vettel (Ger/Toro Rosso) didn't start at all


Now it is going to be interesting.

[Mattk]

What is going on with Vettel? He seems pretty fast at times, but rarely delivers when it's necessary.

Kubica is in hot form and I reckon he's a good chance to take out the race.

[Kissyface]

Wow! What a session. Very exciting. My little 4 yr old daughter got scared the way I was whooping and hollerin'!

I am a Lewis Hamilton fan but I wouldn't have been upset to see Kubica on pole. Anything but a Ferrari, really.

RACE PREDICTIONS:
1. Hamilton by 30s
2. Raikkonen
3. Kubica
4. Massa

Alonso out before first pit stop. Why? Dunno, just a feeling.

[styla21]

Alonso out before first pit stop. Why? Dunno, just a feeling.

Good call, Agreed.
Fuel strategy tends to be overlooked when examining qualifying performance.. It will be interesting to see where everyone is really placed tonight! :-)

[GeorelloG]

Good call, Agreed.
Fuel strategy tends to be overlooked when examining qualifying performance.. It will be interesting to see where everyone is really placed tonight! :-)

Definitely agree. Although I don't think Alonso will be that much lighter. Best he can hope for is possibly P5, i.e. if Heikki/Heidfeld does not catch up with him.

I think Kimi will definitely get past Kubica during the early parts of the race. We'll then have to see how the McLaren's (Hamilton) tyres hold out. The Ferrari does seem to look better on the longer stints and look after its tyres better.

I think it will be an interesting race!!!:mrgreen:

[Mattk]

Ferraris do tend to look after the tyres better, but Hamilton has good pace and the McLaren has improved regarding tyre wear. I reckon the three main contenders will be Hamilton, Raikonnen and Kubica, in that order.

[torrentjunkie]

Alonso out before first pit stop. Why? Dunno, just a feeling.

maybe one of those evil badgers will have their way again lol

trulli wants to complete a lap without spinning...just 2 hrs to go, im behind lewis, he just looks untouchable, especially after he snatched the pole from robert in his last flying lap...took ALOT of curb near the wall of champions i think....i favour kubica over kimi, would be nice to see him and lewis battle it out like in gp2 days should be an exciting race...but lets not over hype it or we might get disappointed

[go1d1e]

Madmax not working this week?

I missed the drama :(

[LEXION]

Hame made a good scene today...... I think he hit Kimi on purpose...he could have hit the other car :D


Good race....I think (hope) Massa will win :D

[go1d1e]

I would prefer kubica to win than a ferrari..

[SHIZL]

and ur wish is has come true wow never would of thought any of that was going to happen

[go1d1e]

Wow, changes the whole championship..

So whats the deal with the pitlane pileup? It said there was an investigation?

[LEXION]

interesting race from start to finish, Good job Kubica :)

[styla21]

Styla is deliriously happy :-D

[Carbodiox]

Oh man what a race!

AWSOME job by Kubica

Hamilton just.. no comments

Feel sorry for Kimi

[yellky]

hell yeah, finally !!
great job by KUB and BMW :)

[GeorelloG]

Well done Kubica and of course BMW. They have been looking so good of late. Pity about Kimi and Hamilton. It would have been a good 3-way battle. Well maybe next time...

[marek1712]

Hurray, finally Robert is a winner :)

[Spiffu]

Already a video of Hamilton's fubar.

YouTube

[Carbodiox]

Wonderduck waiting for your Update!

[strategy_fan]

Hamilton gets a 10 place grid penalty for the French GP. Same for Nico Rosberg who went into the back of Hamilton at the same time.

One thing I want to know, how was it that two cars were allowed side by side at the pit lane exit, shouldn't they be in line?

[styla21]

I wonder why the youtube vid was pulled :?:

[Mattk]

Well, it appears Hamilton and Rosberg have been penalised 10 qualifying places to be administered at the next grand prix: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/6/7902.html. Serves them right for being so careless. Even learner drivers know to look out for red lights.

[Kissyface]

When all would think his success beyond doubt, young Lewis appears to find the most unthinkable and baffling opposite result. Would Mansellian be an appropriate adjective?
Congrats to Kubica for a well deserved win. His racecraft shows a maturity beyond his years. He reminds me a great deal of the Professor. (but not because he too has a crooked nose!)

[Pokiou]

I honestly think the fault there lies with the 2 cars at the front of the pit lane straight... IF they hadn't tried to over take each other in pit lane which is a big NO NO!, Hamilton would of been able to avoid both cars.

I think Kimi and the other drivers should all be penalized... Seriously who races in pit lane.. if you get out in front good if you don't then get back in line!

[yellky]

red is red, means STOP and he just fuked up :thumbdown:

young Lewis is really a great driver and has the possibility to drive a great car (despite the fact it was illegal (stolen i should say) last year..) - but damn! he makes WAY too many mistakes.

good to see KUB in BMW (instead of Ferrari or McLaren) 'cos F1 would become pretty boring :-P ;-)

[Mattk]

I honestly think the fault there lies with the 2 cars at the front of the pit lane straight... IF they hadn't tried to over take each other in pit lane which is a big NO NO!, Hamilton would of been able to avoid both cars.
He also would have gone straight through past the red light. A bigger no no. At least the first two stopped.

[mts6800]

This was not the first time the red light caught drivers out. Last year Massa blew thru it and was DQ. Montoya did the same few years back,

Pitting under the SC at Canada is almost guaranteed to have a red light because from the time a car peels off into the pits till it's serviced and in pit lane the SC will not yet have cleared the blend line from the pits.

It was interesting to see Kimi and Robert (Kubica) side by side at the red light. I think when the light goes green they can race for position. Just don't cross that blend line!

[SHIZL]

this time it wasnt kimi messing up in his breaking hehe rookie mistake by hamilton hopefully they improve the track next year

[5vz-fe]

Bullish Hamilton: There is no stopping us

Tuesday 10th June 2008

http://images.planetf1.com/08/06/240/Lewis-Hamilton_937556.jpg
Lewis Hamilton is refusing to let his Canadian GP mishap get him down, saying if he hadn't crashed he would've "destroyed" the rest of the field.

Starting from pole position, Hamilton easily etched out a seven second lead over the competition. However, his advantage was undone when the Safety Car came out on lap 17, resulting in the field bunching up.

Two laps later and Hamilton was out of the grand prix after a mistake saw him rear end Kimi Raikkonen. It was a disappointing end to a promising race for the 23-year-old.

However, Hamilton is refusing to let it get to him as he reckons had it not been for the accident he would be destroyed the competition.

"This will make no difference. It hasn't knocked me confidence-wise, I'm not gutted or disappointed," he said.

"It is not going to take me a day to recover or anything. I'll be up first thing training and really looking forward to Magny-Cours.

"Going forward, the mood is strong. The fact is we destroyed everyone at the weekend. With the car we have right now there is no stopping us."

Speaking of the penalty, which was handed to Hamilton after he crashed into the back of Raikkonen's stationary Ferrari which had stopped for a red light at the end of the pit lane, the Brit said: "The rule is silly.

"We are in the race - how can you see a red light at the end of the pit lane? But that's the rule and I accept it.

"I start ten places back in the next race. It's a bit harsh really. I didn't aim to ruin anyone's race."

One person who firmly believes Hamilton can bounce back from his Canadian disappointment is McLaren team doctor Aki Hintsa.

The Finn explained: "We can measure the mental stress levels in the drivers as well as fatigue.

"Lewis has improved physically and mentally since the start of the season. His statistics are very impressive and from those I can tell you this will not affect him one little bit."



Check out Lewis's latest comments

[5vz-fe]

I bet he aim for Kimi.

"We are in the race - how can you see a red light at the end of the pit lane? But that's the rule and I accept it"

Maybe he should try to re-acquire his Super License again.

I find Lewis was more political friendly in the beginning of last year and tend to choose his words wisely. This year is totally off wack.

[styla21]

I've been thinking the same thing of late 5vz-fe. I'm not going as far to call Lewis a Diva, but certainly is showing a lower tolerance for making pleasing media comments.

[silentm]

what a great race, i was laughing really when hamilton hit kimi... how unfortunate :rolleyes: what a dumbass. red is a signal color you really should be able to see it, it's not like you get tunnelvision doing 80 km/h in the pitlane eh?

looks like this time the tarmac really made the race interesting, but i guess it's not really something that shoud be happening on a F1 track. i'm still amazed how the drivers were able to keep it together, most of the time.

[mts6800]

Lewis needs to think when he makes these remarks "how can you see a red light..." Well, it was pretty obvious that 2 drivers in front of him saw it!

Lewis is still learning how to race in F1. He is a great driver but there's more to F1 than that. He can just mark it up as another lesson learned.

I disagree with Lewis, I don't think the penalty was harsh, it was an avoidable accident. If Kimi wasn't there and the exit was clear would Lewis have blown thru the red light? That would mean a DQ for him and the excuses would have been great reading! :laugh:

The McLaren team should have told him watch the light, it's red. That's no real excuse though as it's the driver's responsibility to know it's there.

No matter what he says, this is going to hurt his chances, every point counts. The 10 spot penalty will probably cost him some points too.

Poor Rosberg, I think he was too focused on following Lewis that when he saw things not right it was too late to stop.

[szumszer]

diva, what would make anyone think lewis is a diva ... LEWIS is a DIVA
not only a diva, but delusional as well, he has not destroyed anyone this year and French GP won't be where he destroys anyone either ... the only thing he destroyed so far is a chance to become the first F1 driver to win the championship in his rookie year (he had it in the bag until he tried to put his personal "spin" on things)
he is as talented as he is mistake-prone and immaturity he displays is disappointing considering the potential
I think lewis will find himself in a tough spot next year when his team mate gets up to speed and will be in direct competition with lewis
on a lighter note, robert did a good job as the third best driver by winning in Canada, what made the event special is the fact that he nearly killed himself there last year (if that accident occured 10 years earlier he would not be racing today)
he real problem with robert is that he shows great pace when alone/qualifying, but does not race well with other drivers ... when was the last time he passed anyone ... really
look at alonso and massa or even lewis for that matter ... robert needs to become a racer before he can be a championship caliber driver as the track cannot always be empty in front of him
he needs to improve in this regard and hook up with one of the other two big teams (ferrari or mclaren) before he can be considered a contender as his championship lead will be short-lived once kimi wins in France
the only thing a hamilton can destroy is the winning championship bid as shown last year by the rookie and a carrera gt as recently severly damaged by his father ...

[yellky]

he real problem with robert is that he shows great pace when alone/qualifying, but does not race well with other drivers [....]
robert needs to become a racer before he can be a championship caliber driver as the track cannot always be empty in front of him

are you kiddin' me?
here's my favourite example:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qTxXGbjQBqA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=l40yFTePD8s

[styla21]

Well put, Yellky :-) Kubica is unreal.

When I think about it, how did Lewis NOT see two stationary F1 cars infront of him?? Or the flashing red light? I mean what exactly was he looking at then?
Of course it wasn't intentional; I just can't figure out what we would have been looking at haha..

[5vz-fe]

I agree, the first vid is great!! I will definitely put Kubica infront of Lewis. Only time will tell for infront of Kimi. In my books, he's definitely better than Lewis.

[Mattk]

he real problem with robert is that he shows great pace when alone/qualifying, but does not race well with other drivers ... when was the last time he passed anyone ... really
Well, I think those videoes say it all, really. Kubica is definitely a racer. He's better in qualifying, I agree, but he can still cut it with the best.