[SPOILER] 2008 Monaco GP

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Round 6: Grand Prix De Monaco
Monte Carlo

Free Practice 1:
The session was red flagged at some point due to a loose drain cover on the exit of Sainte Devote.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5676/08f1rd6free1rf5.jpg

Free Practice 2 at 14:00

[styla21]

Kimi must have got there in the last few minutes.. I watched up until few minutes to go and Lewis was the one with the pace today. Of course a lot can / will change!!

... What happened to Heidfeld? Engine?

[Jona]

There is a big possibility for rain on sunday... we'll see. It would be interesting! :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=4648

[Pokiou]

Track layout:
http://217.204.13.141/resources/images/2147374622__mon_circuit.gif

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Free Practice 2 Times:
01 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:15.140 40 laps
02 N. Rosberg Williams 1:15.533 39 laps
03 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:15.572 42 laps
04 F. Massa Ferrari 1:15.869 37 laps
05 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:15.881 39 laps
06 R. Kubica BMW 1:16.296 34 laps
07 F. Alonso Renault 1:16.310 27 laps
08 J. Button Honda 1:16.351 45 laps
09 K. Nakajima Williams 1:16.372 40 laps
10 R. Barrichello Honda 1:16.418 32 laps
11 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:16.426 44 laps
12 T. Glock Toyota 1:16.688 46 laps
13 M. Webber Red Bull 1:17.094 39 laps
14 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:17.131 39 laps
15 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:17.246 35 laps
16 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:17.251 33 laps
17 J. Trulli Toyota 1:17.379 28 laps
18 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:17.581 38 laps
19 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:18.176 31 laps
20 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:18.225 38 laps

In relation to this (http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=56345) question, it looks like Ferrari would continue their winless streak in Monaco as they are struggling with the super soft tyres (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67633) :|

[mclean987]

any news on monaco f1 practice i saw practice torrent on here once but not lately i i would love to see some more not just qualifying and race

[Pokiou]

Yes, Hamilton is gooooood :D

[styla21]

Yes, Hamilton is gooooood :D
Did you see Hamilton tyre burst in the early laps of Prac 1, or Heiki's big lock-up? Same corner, same tyre.. Not convinced that Mclarens tyre / rim issues are completely dealt with. I guess only a small chance of something happening from it though..
Hamilton was on fire though! Seems they definitely have the pace at this early stage.

Edit: I have an updated link for the Mad-max viewer (that was taken down) for those of you who can't view the ITV footage live if you live outside UK.
PM for the link :-)

[5vz-fe]

Ferrari haven't won the Monaco for a few years already. Mclaren seems to be the more logical bet for this race.

[Mattk]

^But, Ferrari have had the wood on McLaren this year. Last year, it was far closer, and McLaren was probably on top.

[yellky]

heh, some rainy weather today :)

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FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE MONACO 2008
Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 23 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.567 11
2 22 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:17.084 0.517 15
3 1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:17.177 0.610 21
4 7 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:17.503 0.936 26
5 4 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:17.687 1.120 22
6 2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:17.691 1.124 26
7 10 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:17.856 1.289 22
8 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:17.883 1.316 23
9 8 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:18.147 1.580 26
10 16 Jenson Button Honda 1:18.225 1.658 27
11 14 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:18.367 1.800 16
12 12 Timo Glock Toyota 1:18.424 1.857 26
13 17 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:18.455 1.888 19
14 6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:18.615 2.048 25
15 15 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 1:18.651 2.084 29
16 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:18.795 2.228 24
17 11 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:18.858 2.291 25
18 3 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:19.024 2.457 23
19 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:19.131 2.564 10
20 9 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:20.805 4.238 17

Heikki might have gotten the fastest lap but he crashed right after... and yes there is rain (just light though)! Can't wait for qualifying and the race

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Qualifying:
Ferrari locks the front-grid of Monaco on a dry qualifying session

22 - 25 May 2008
FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE MONACO 2008
Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3
1 2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:15.190 1:15.110 1:15.787
2 1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:15.717 1:15.404 1:15.815
3 22 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.582 1:15.322 1:15.839
4 23 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.295 1:15.389 1:16.165
5 4 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:15.977 1:15.483 1:16.171
6 7 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:15.935 1:15.287 1:16.548
7 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:16.646 1:15.827 1:16.852
8 11 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:16.306 1:15.598 1:17.203
9 10 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:16.074 1:15.745 1:17.343
10 9 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:16.086 1:15.839
11 12 Timo Glock Toyota 1:16.285 1:15.907
12 16 Jenson Button Honda 1:16.259 1:16.101
13 3 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:16.650 1:16.455
14 8 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:16.756 1:16.479
15 17 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:16.208 1:16.537
16 14 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:16.806
17 6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:16.933
18 15 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 1:16.955
19 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:17.225
20 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:17.823

[5vz-fe]

Now I am confused. Where did Mclaren's pace in pratices went.

[Mattk]

^Practice times mean very little a lot of the time because the set up is different from the race set up. Besides, if you look at the Q1 and 2 times, both McLarens lapped faster than Raikonnen. Perhaps the race set up is not geared so much towards pace.

[toffytofik]

Ferraris start in front? Mercs are right behind?

Mmm, afterall it's a Monaco GP so i definitely see a Merc running in front of Ferrari...





























http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Safety_Car_with_Felipe_Massa_2006_Brazil.jpg/326px-Safety_Car_with_Felipe_Massa_2006_Brazil.jpg

[styla21]

Ferraris start in front? Mercs are right behind?

Mmm, afterall it's a Monaco GP so I definitely see a Merc running in front of Ferrari...

Had no idea where you were going with that one.... LOL:mrgreen:

[Mattk]

Haha, good one, toffytofik!

[toffytofik]

Rain race!!! Bring it on! :-D

[LEXION]

Who won?

[yellky]

HAM - lucky winning boy..
KUB - no single mistake, but still 2nd :/

[yellky]

anyways, great great race :)

[LEXION]

ahhhhhhh :(

What about the Ferrari's?

[yellky]

MAS 3rd and better dont ask about RAI ;)

[LEXION]

damn, disappointed :( I have to download the race now...I saw just 15 laps, when all looked great for Ferrari....I dont get it what happened the rest of the race. :(

[styla21]

Just about everything that could possibly go wrong for Kimi, did go wrong!
... I hope he sends Adrian Sutil an apology letter though! Got to feel for him :-(
YEAH Kubica!! :-)

[toffytofik]

I demand rainy conditions to be obligatory for the race as a part of the new official F1 rules!

[HeilSvenska]

Other motorsport coverages ruined the results for me. Boo. If I'm watching NASCAR, I don't want F1 news in it. Is that too much to ask? :-(

[Carbodiox]

But u gotta admit that Kubica is a hell of a driver making no single mistake in those conditions. Quiet, calm and focused guy aswell

[styla21]

Yeap, next to Sutil and perhaps Webber (Rosberg too until crash!), I would rate Kubica as having one of the best drives! Composed, and consistently fast. You have to feel for Heidfeld though... Definitely considered the #2 - and having Alonso drive into you doesn't help your results either :-P

[Pokiou]

well boys there you go.. Hamilton won.. I'm proud of the kid !

[kennyken]

Damm i really wanted force india to get some points. I like it when the other teams do well for a change :ohmy:

[Messer]

Hehe, looks like Hamiltons first mistake by hiting his rear wheel in the wall and getting that puncture actually helped him a TON by being smart and refueling him heavy.
Nice strategy and of course luck :)
Still I was hoping for a better result from Ferrari.

[mrbutter]

Disappointed ITV didn't speak with kimi. I want to hear what he has to say about the whole Sutil fiasco.

Pretty terrible :(


But go Hamilton!

[Mattk]

McLaren were great strategists during the race. Hamilton's crash proved pretty fortuitous, but the McLaren crew still did a hell of a good job re-planning the rest of the race. Ferrari were conservative and planned for rain, but that didn't happen. I think Williams fell into that trap with Kubica as well, but he had more pace than Massa. Massa over-shooting the first corner while leading proved costly.

Rainy days seem to allow opportunities for the smaller teams. Sutil had a great race until getting rear-ended. Webber was consistently one of the fastest drivers apart from the period after his last pit stop when he slithered around on his slicks. He's really had a good season this year, unlike Coulthard. Alonso, on the other hand, went berserk, and lost himself a swag of points because of over-eagerness.

Raikonnen had a horror race - drive through penalty and two nose cone changes after accidents. And poor Sutil! He'd done nothing wrong, and then Raikonnen hit a wet spot, lost control and clobbered him. What rotten luck!

[styla21]

. I think Williams fell into that trap with Kubica as well, but he had more pace than Massa. Massa over-shooting the first corner while leading proved costly.
You know Kubica is with BMW right? Williams is a seperate team nowadays..:-P
Nice summary - it really was a race of lost fortunes. Add Heidfeld / Rosberg to that list too..

[79TA]

Rain in Monaco made for a very interesting race. That (replay,) the Indy 500, the Coca Cola 600, and the end of the 24 hours of Nurburgring made today a great day for Motorsports coverage.

Way to take out Sutil, Kimi . . . a rapid series of talented and selfish saves right into an undeserving car.

[justin101180]

Dont you just hate it! that when your keeping your ratio good and dont want to download but the whole of you is saying you have to see it but you still decided not to?!!!?!?!?!?! and all of a sudden you see in spoilers that your team lost while they started in pole?!?!?!?! haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?!?!?!?!?!.... :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

[justin101180]

Sorry for the sudden burst of emotions..... hehehe

[styla21]

Ferrari fan I take it?? :-P

[blue8]

Just about everything that could possibly go wrong for Kimi, did go wrong!
... I hope he sends Adrian Sutil an apology letter though! Got to feel for him :-(
YEAH Kubica!! :-)

Gascoyne was very disappointed about the result that he called for the stewards to "act accordingly" (through a race-ban for Kimi perhaps):

"The frustration is that if that had been a Force India driver hitting a world champion we would expect to get a one or two race ban, but when it is the other way around it is disappointing that the stewards... well you know I hope they look at it and act accordingly," said Gascoyne.After reviewing the incident, the stewards decided that no further action should be taken.


Good to hear that Sutil didn't seem too bitter about it:
"It was a great race with an incredibly sad ending," he said. "We could have had fourth place. It's incredible bad luck that Kimi crashed into me. He obviously didn't do it on purpose."While he hasn't personally apologized to Sutil, Raikkonen said he was sorry about the incident. (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67751)

That was a very exciting race though despite all the disappointments.

I was really rooting for Kubica as 2nd but the result was good enough.

Vettel also did impressive to land in 5th. I'm not sure how he did it though, I didn't see him on-cam for most part of the race.

Heidfeld and Kovalainen are once again unlucky.

Piquet Jr, Bourdais and Glock should be very worried.

Oh. and what the heck was P. Diddy doing there?!?

EDIT: More bad luck for Sutil
The FIA representatives officially warned the Force India driver for overtaking three drivers under yellow flags on lap 13.

"The stewards warn the driver of car 20 as to his future behaviour," part of the stewards' statement issued at Monte Carlo read.


Championship Standings (http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=55068)

[Mattk]

You know Kubica is with BMW right? Williams is a seperate team nowadays..
Yeah, just a slip of the pen. Or keyboard.

There was nothing Raikonnen could have reasonably done to avoid the accident. He hit a wet patch whilst braking and with wet slicked tyres, he was doomed.

[Wonderduck]

Disappointed ITV didn't speak with kimi. I want to hear what he has to say about the whole Sutil fiasco.

"mrmmbllmmbl mrlbllmbllmmblbll mrbdmmmrb Sutil mrmbl. Blrmbl." - Kimi Raikonnen

[SHIZL]

great race dont forget about alonso's big headed mistake taking out heidfield . got to feel bad for sutil and his team 2nd time this year kimi has wrecked out braking like that australia was dry and they looked very similar does the world champ have braking issues ?

[5vz-fe]

Kimi f**ked up.