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Mr Snuggle Bunnnie
05-15-2008, 05:11 PM
Without doubt the most iconic grand prix track in the world, the Monaco Grand Prix has been an institution on both the sporting and social calendars since its inception in 1929.
The unique layout of the tight and barrier-lined harbourside street track presents a special challenge to the drivers, who generally either love it or loathe it.
The first world championship race in 1950 set the tone – 10 cars were eliminated in a first-lap shunt.
Five years later Alberto Ascari made history by becoming the only driver to crash into the harbour.
In the 1960s Graham Hill became the acknowledged ‘master of Monaco’ when he took a total of five wins.
Ayrton Senna surpassed even that record by winning six times in seven years between 1987 and 1993.
Michael Schumacher would also become known as a Monaco specialist, taking five victories on the streets.
But he met his downfall in Monte Carlo in his final season, being put to the back of grid for feigning an accident in a bid to obstruct Fernando Alonso’s charge for pole.
The track remains a thrilling throwback to the past, but gradually even Monaco’s face has been changed to bring it into line with more modern thinking.
A permanent pit garage complex was finally built in 2003, with the last few corners reprofiled (using land from the ocean) to make room.
The entry to the swimming pool complex – a left-right blink of the eye at 130mph – remains one of the thrilling pieces of tarmac on the F1 calendar, even if some of its teeth have been drawn now that the barriers have been moved back from the apex.
And the slalom through Massenet and Casino Square and over the crest down to Mirabeau is surely one of the most spectacular places to witness a grand prix car at close quarters.
Monaco is a glorious anachronism – and long may it remain so.
Pokiou
05-15-2008, 11:15 PM
I hate this track when trying to navigate it my self.. i cant seem to the get the f1 cars to go around it correctly. BUT watching it.. i think its OK.. not fun as there is really no passing points. :(
Best track i would say for passing would be the Melbourne's F1 Albert Park Track.
styla21
05-16-2008, 01:13 AM
When you say navigate it yourself - and can't seem to get the f1 car around it, are you referring to your glory days as f1 test pilot, or as a spectator? :-P
Mattk
05-16-2008, 01:47 AM
Perhaps he's talking about video gaming. It's not a great track if you want lots of passing manoeuvres, but it is fantastic just to see cars drive around it.
torrentjunkie
05-16-2008, 04:23 AM
Perhaps he's talking about video gaming. It's not a great track if you want lots of passing manoeuvres, but it is fantastic just to see cars drive around it.
yup, IMO i think its just a tad bit more about sights and sounds than it is about racing, still very entertaining to watch though. As Bob Varsha said, ''the grandest grand prix of them all"
styla21
05-16-2008, 05:15 AM
I was there last year for the GP. Fell absolutely in love with the place.
I agree though that it is probably not the ideal F1 circuit..
Mr Snuggle Bunnnie
05-16-2008, 09:09 AM
I hate this track when trying to navigate it my self.. i cant seem to the get the f1 cars to go around it correctly. BUT watching it.. i think its OK.. not fun as there is really no passing points. :(
Best track i would say for passing would be the Melbourne's F1 Albert Park Track.
Ive allways had the same prob's aswell so i know where your coming from
Mattk
05-16-2008, 09:16 AM
In terms of all the famous street circuits in the world, Monaco is by far the most organic. Albert Park is part street, and until the Singapore GP, it'll be the closest thing to a proper street circuit. The Gold Coast Champ Car circuit was excellent, but it was also lined with fences and safety barriers. Sensible, but missing the point of a street circuit. Singapore may come close, but it's ruined by the night-time start. Also, the roads chosen are all fairly wide.
The iconic status of Monaco is more than confirmed if you can imagine what would happen if Ecclestone decided to cut it from the calendar. It has great emotional appeal because of the very way it is constructed, or not constructed. It is as if the F1 cars are just racing down the street, because they are.
vaanish
05-16-2008, 03:17 PM
for me, its just an amazing spectacle
styla21
05-18-2008, 08:10 AM
Only 3 days to go!! I'm excited! :-)
Any idea on where the teams are placed? Anyone willing to go out on a limb and make a prediction?
yellky
05-20-2008, 03:28 PM
i'd love to see Kubica's BMW on top with the maiden win :D
blue8
05-21-2008, 09:43 AM
Wet race predicted for this weekend's Monaco GP
Wet weather is likely to affect the otherwise glamorous running of the Monaco Grand Prix this week.
Weather forecasters are predicting mild temperatures at or below 20C all week, including Saturday and Sunday, and a possibility of rain throughout the coming days.
The highest probability for dry weather is ironically on Friday, when Formula One teams do not practice following Thursday's traditional first day of official action.
Another weather source predicts a dry race for Sunday, explaining that the forthcoming rain for the area may have cleared by the morning.
We may finally have the first wet race of the season! Although rain was also predicted in Malaysia and Spain, the races were dry throughout. I'm expecting the race to be incident-filled with traction control banned and the very tight barriers of the circuit. Rain would make it quite exciting (and highly dangerous) and truly a lottery of a race!!
silentm
05-21-2008, 11:35 AM
wow if Monte will feature some rain it will be truly interesting to actually watch! :)
Pokiou
05-21-2008, 09:02 PM
I hope no rain. As for my monye i would put it on Hamilton as he seems faster on the corners with the hard tyres. I think he should start with the softs and then work his way to the hards!
If it rains.. then Massa.
styla21
05-21-2008, 10:22 PM
If it rains... possibly every team is in with a chance! :twisted:
Pokiou
05-21-2008, 10:59 PM
lol who ever gets outta the first corner in teh rain will possibly take the race home lol ...but i so hope every crashs and they have to restart it LOL .. gold in my opinion a true classic F1 Spectical. lol
Mattk
05-22-2008, 01:13 AM
^So a great race is one which absolutely every car crashes and there is no race because there are no cars racing? Strange logic...
styla21
05-22-2008, 01:40 AM
Mattk, Ironically, wouldn't you agree that a more interesting race is created - (over a traditional) 'procession', to see the faster cars overtaking from the back of pack and working their way up?
Monaco is horrible circuit for that however, the overtaking spots are few and far between.. Instantly I think of Mark Webber in this regard. For the last few years in a row he's done a brilliant job overtaking on this track.
Pokiou
05-22-2008, 11:52 AM
My logic was that all the cars pile up and those that can continue finish the race but non the less it would great to see them pile up :D
Mattk
05-23-2008, 03:35 AM
^You sound like my late grandmother. She liked watching motorsports because of the car crashes.
CarlZ
05-23-2008, 04:40 AM
^and your saying it isn't interesting to watch a car flying into wall :D
Mr Snuggle Bunnnie
05-23-2008, 04:52 AM
The 1996 monaco grand prix was wet and only about 8 cars finished the race and a very unlikely win from Olivier Panis in the Ligier which turned into Prost a year later.
Mattk
05-23-2008, 10:42 AM
^I think it was closer to four or five. I remember Michael Schumacher being the first to go after crashing into a wall.
^and your saying it isn't interesting to watch a car flying into wall
Yes, in a way, and I love a good crash, but I generally watch races for the racing. :)
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