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MotorWorld
03-30-2008, 02:42 PM
F1 boss Max Mosley has sick Nazi orgy with 5 hookers
Son of fascist Hitler lover in sex shame

http://www.motorworld.net/pictures/3003_orgy_01.jpg
TAKE ZAT: Formula One supremo Mosley is bent naked and chained over the torture bench in the S&M dungeon as one of the hookers lays into his bare buttocks so hard with a cane he needed a dressing to cover the wounds


FORMULA One motor racing chief Max Mosley is today exposed as a secret sado-masochist sex pervert.

Video: Watch F1 boss Max Mosley play Nazi sex games with hookers
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DxvFADEX3us

or http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/videoplayer/index.php?videoid=http://del.interoute.com/?id=3af6810b-1ecc-49ad-a746-994ea2c88ecb&delivery=stream


The son of infamous British wartime fascist leader Oswald Mosley is filmed romping with five hookers at a depraved NAZI-STYLE orgy in a torture dungeon. Mosley— a friend to F1 big names like Bernie Ecclestone and Lewis Hamilton— barks ORDERS in GERMAN as he lashes girls wearing mock DEATH CAMP uniforms and enjoys being whipped until he BLEEDS.

The multi-millionaire son of Sir Oswald, who was a pal of Adolf Hitler, plays a concentration camp commandant in a FIVE-HOUR torture chamber video.

Mosley—the most powerful man in motor-racing—barks orders in German as he WHIPS two hookers dressed in striped uniforms reminiscent of AUSCHWITZ garb while girls in Nazi uniforms look on.

At one point the wrinkled 67-year-old—who publicly likes to give the impression he has put his father's evil legacy behind him—yells "she needs more of ze punishment!" while brandishing a LEATHER STRAP over a brunette's naked bottom.

Then the lashes rain down as Mosley counts them out in German: "Eins! Zwei! Drei! Vier! Fünf! Sechs!"

With each blow, the girl yelps in pain as grinning, grey-haired Mosley becomes clearly aroused. And after the beating, he makes her perform a sex act on him.

Last month the urbane president of the FIA—Formula One's governing body—hit the headlines when he announced a crackdown on racism in the sport after McLaren ace Lewis Hamilton was abused by Spanish spectators.

But on Friday the only ‘crackdowns' married Mosley was interested in were on bare buttocks...including his own.
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Before hammering away at the girls he plays a cowering death camp inmate himself, having his GENITALS inspected and his hair searched for LICE—mocking the humiliating way Jews were treated by SS death camp guards in World War II.

Then, head bowed and tied up in chains, he is interrogated by a dominatrix before being chained up and LASHED so hard over a TORTURE BENCH that he WHIMPERS for mercy and has to have a wound dressing put on his backside.

His Jew-hating father—who had Hitler as guest of honour at his marriage—would have been proud of his warped son's command of German as he struts around looking for bottoms to whack.

But even the vile Thirties fascist—whose blackshirt thugs terrorised London's East End—might have been less impressed with the sordid company his offspring keeps.

Mosley's appointment with his hookers was at a smart £2million riverside flat on London's Chelsea Embankment at noon on Friday.

Our investigators obtained a graphic video of his sick antics.

The girls arrived first, led by the main dominatrix, a stern-faced blonde, carrying a suitcase laden with whips, chains and uniforms. Half an hour later, Mosley—married to devoted wife Jean since 1960—turned up wearing a smart overcoat and suit after making the short walk from his nearby London home.

The 6ft 2in former barrister once helped his father try to restart his political career in the Sixties with a new fascist Union Movement party. He was even a prospective parliamentary candidate himself.

But the party that got his vote on Friday was one involving violent perversion in a rigged-up basement torture dungeon.

After paying £2,500 in cash, Mosley—a good friend of F1 billionaire Bernie Ecclestone—was ordered by the head hooker to strip as she played out his sick fantasy.

"OK, undress," she snapped. "UNDRESS! You are going to be punished to be shown how we treat prisoners in our facility."

As his white Y-fronts hit the floor, the powerfully built blonde barked out her orders: "Head down. Let's see if they have been keeping you clean at the other facility.

"Hurry up! Lie face down! Don't look at me!" Mosley meekly obeyed and was chained and manacled before another blonde dominatrix, wearing only a jacket, shirt and knee-length boots, entered the room.

As another hooker ticked off points on an inspection sheet, she roughly scrutinised his head and private parts before demanding his age. "I'm 42," he whispered, lying to attract a severe beating. He also lied about his name, saying he was called Tim Barnes, so the punishment would be really painful.

He got what he wanted. "You are now going to be punished," hissed the dominatrix. "You are going to receive 12 strokes of the birch plus another three for not telling me your real age. Then you will receive six strokes of the cane."

Mosley was then bent over and strapped naked to a leather torture bench. The muscular blonde dealt him 15 savage blows. Towards the end Mosley was whimpering and gasped for breath. Reddened and bruised, he then received a further six strokes with a cane.

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His flogging over, he left the room before saying, "Thank you, mistress". After having his wounds dressed, Mosley makes the transformation from masochist to sadist. Now fully clothed, he bends two blonde girls over the whipping bench, their striped concentration camp-style uniform bottoms yanked down to expose their buttocks.

He converses in German with one girl throughout the torture, loving every minute of death camp role-play, while the other girl pleads: "I don't know what you are saying, so I don't know what to do."

Oxford-educated Mosley has refused to condemn his father who was considered so dangerous he was interned during the war. He once said in an interview: "He was wonderful as a person. But I don't think my father would have made a good dictator. He talked tough but, fundamentally, he was too soft."

Whereas his son is a hard man—especially when it comes to beating girls' naked bottoms. One of the hookers is strapped into a gag to stifle her screams as Mosley lays into her backside in front of the other four girls. With a Nazi swagger, he counts each stroke in German before having sex with his ‘victim'.

A frantic orgy then begins, as a brunette hooker is strapped to a bench before a dominatrix uses a sex toy on her. Later she performs a lesbian act on one of the blondes. Red-faced and panting, Mosley looks on like a child in a sweet shop, but surrounded by bright red bottoms.

The orgy lasted almost five hours and the five hookers spent the final ten minutes laughing and drinking wine together. One said: "The girls have all had a good seeing-to!"

After the sex marathon, Mosley dressed again and had a quick pit-stop, turning down wine in favour of a cup of tea. At 5.05pm, he put on his overcoat and disappeared into the blustery afternoon to resume his other life as Max the respectable motor-racing mogul who will be officiating at the next Formula One Grand Prix in Bahrain next weekend.

http://www.motorworld.net/pictures/3003_orgy_02.jpg http://www.motorworld.net/pictures/3003_orgy_03.jpg

Now Mosley has shown his true colours too—and brought a new kind of shame on his already tarnished family name.



source: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/3003_nazi_orgy.shtml

Ghostbat
03-30-2008, 02:53 PM
Never knew Mosley was such a sick f**k.

pagani
03-30-2008, 03:24 PM
Never knew Mosley was such a sick f**k.
I ones some picturs in a porno mag about something similar.

toffytofik
03-30-2008, 03:43 PM
WTF? Is this for real?!

MotorWorld
03-30-2008, 03:45 PM
WTF? Is this for real?!

The News of the World is a genuine newspaper. It is published by Rupert Murdoch's Newscorp organisation, whose other UK newspaper, the rather more respectable Sunday Times, was being sued recently by Mosely for some comments it published by Martin Brundle about there being a 'witch hunt' against McLaren by the FIA.

now on other sites too http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=550109&in_page_id=1770

pagani
03-30-2008, 03:49 PM
WTF? Is this for real?!
Yup it's real

torrentjunkie
03-30-2008, 04:04 PM
WTF? Is this for real?!

took the words right out of my mouth...this is sooooo hard to believe, i hope motorsport isn't tarnished because of this sick idiots sexual fetish.:-( i can see where the 50 million quid fine from mclaren went last year, what a sick senile old f***

04RCSTI
03-30-2008, 04:11 PM
bahahahaha

CarlZ
03-30-2008, 04:31 PM
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: I red the article :laugh: omg my belly :laugh: the funnyest thing I have heard in quite a while :laugh: and it's even true OMG hahhahahahaha ahhh ...yeah, but seriously man can't even have a different sex without being humiliated :batman::whip::rofl::rofl::rofl: goddam funny tho:laugh:

nthfinity
03-30-2008, 04:59 PM
Note to rich people in the public eye....

Don't be sick farking wierdo's... the world WILL find out :P

toffytofik
03-30-2008, 05:15 PM
Yup it's real

The News of the World is a genuine newspaper. It is published by Rupert Murdoch's Newscorp organisation, whose other UK newspaper, the rather more respectable Sunday Times, was being sued recently by Mosely for some comments it published by Martin Brundle about there being a 'witch hunt' against McLaren by the FIA.

now on other sites too http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=550109&in_page_id=1770
Thanks for clarification. I simply couldn't believe what i read.

Something's definitely wrong with the world we're living in.

RC45
03-30-2008, 05:34 PM
NOw I remember why I didnt watch F1 ;)

Carbodiox
03-30-2008, 06:00 PM
Bernie + Hamilton + Mosley i would not be surprised now if they were doing such a lovely parties together


But seriously thats so sick!!!

styla21
03-30-2008, 06:54 PM
WOW. Just WOW.
I wouldn't be suprised to see a suicide attempt / succdess around the corner. How humiliated must he be?

ae86_16v
03-30-2008, 07:33 PM
Seriously, at first I thought it was an early April Fool's Joke.

Mattk
03-30-2008, 08:58 PM
In the post-Brown era of criminality, he can be charged with assault!

styla21
03-31-2008, 01:36 AM
In the post-Brown era of criminality, he can be charged with assault!
Really? Where does the limit of consent come in? Using a scale of say, assault, manslaughter, murder, and voluntary euthenasia. Considering this was clearly consensual, how would assault charges apply? :?:

HeilSvenska
03-31-2008, 01:46 AM
I died a little inside...

Mattk
03-31-2008, 09:19 AM
Really? Where does the limit of consent come in? Using a scale of say, assault, manslaughter, murder, and voluntary euthenasia. Considering this was clearly consensual, how would assault charges apply? :?:

R v Brown was a UK case a few years back, where during a drug bust, the police confiscated an old sex tape which involved all sorts of sado-masochistic sexual activity between a consensual 'victim' and a whole bunch of other people. The police charged everyone who was still alive (two or three had died since the video) and they were convicted on the basis that you can't consent to really serious violence and that there's a limit (which is left to the discretion of the jury/judge). The same principle applies in sports cases, where you impliedly consent to violence reasonably expected, but if it's ridiculously gratuitous violence, you can't consent to it.

If we're talking about killing people, using this principle, you can't consent to being killed. Therefore, legalising euthanasia is not something that's consistent with the common law, because euthanasia is basically telling someone to kill you.

RC45
03-31-2008, 12:02 PM
Therefore, legalising euthanasia is not something that's consistent with the common law, because euthanasia is basically telling someone to kill you.

Tell that to the Dutch ;)

Pokiou
03-31-2008, 12:26 PM
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: I red the article :laugh: omg my belly :laugh: the funnyest thing I have heard in quite a while :laugh: and it's even true OMG hahhahahahaha ahhh ...yeah, but seriously man can't even have a different sex without being humiliated :batman::whip::rofl::rofl::rofl: goddam funny tho:laugh:


wtf is with all these icons.

Pokiou
03-31-2008, 12:30 PM
Bernie + Hamilton + Mosley i would not be surprised now if they were doing such a lovely parties together


But seriously thats so sick!!!


thats a stupid comment... pulling a Hamilton into this.. they guy is there to race not fuck some hooker... your a such a tool for a stupid comment like that.

Svensson
03-31-2008, 01:34 PM
^ Calm down "Pokiou"... He's probably just kidding.

CarlZ
03-31-2008, 01:46 PM
Pokiou, I just like them, and this was the best moment to use them :laugh: it's still a bit funny

nthfinity
03-31-2008, 02:02 PM
thats a stupid comment... pulling a Hamilton into this.. they guy is there to race not fuck some hooker... your a such a tool for a stupid comment like that.

turns out Max is a farking wierdo, and we love to hate both Max and Bernie for their proposed rules changes, and domineering play over F1.

More power to getting rid of those arseholes IMHO

toffytofik
03-31-2008, 05:16 PM
Max Mosley faces calls to quit as Formula One chief after ‘Nazi’ orgy

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article3649197.ece

Pokiou
03-31-2008, 05:26 PM
Fair enough. But i just dont see hwo Hamilton fits into this picture.. i think the comment was just over the top.

twboy1999
03-31-2008, 05:45 PM
cant even see his face in the video
the pics are not even clear

SafirXP
03-31-2008, 09:20 PM
awesome news! now lets see what the FIA does assuming the vid's genuine!

Mattk
03-31-2008, 09:35 PM
Let's see what the police does.

MotorWorld
03-31-2008, 10:39 PM
Let's see what the police does.

you seem to have mistaken the UK for a country where laws are applied evenly to the population regardless of who they are.......

blue8
04-02-2008, 02:36 AM
Mosley apologizes (he doesn't deny anything though) and refuses calls to quit
Max Mosley has apologised to members of the FIA for any embarrassment caused by the recent revelations about his private life, but made it clear he remains fully committed to his role as president of motor racing's governing body.

In a letter sent on Tuesday to all presidents of the national FIA clubs, all members of the FIA Senate, the World Motor Sport Council and the World Council for Mobility and the Automobile, Mosley blames the allegations about his sexual conduct on a 'covert' operation to discredit him.

The FIA head also denied claims from the newspaper that there were Nazi connotations in his actions.

He also reveals that he intends to take legal action against the News of the World newspaper for the article.

In the letter, Mosley writes: "From information provided to me by an impeccable high-level source close to the UK police and security services, I understand that over the last two weeks or so, a covert investigation of my private life and background has been undertaken by a group specialising in such things, for reasons and clients as yet unknown. I have had similar but less well-sourced information from France.

"Regrettably you are now familiar with the results of this covert investigation and I am very sorry if this has embarrassed you or the club. Not content with publicising highly personal and private activities, which are, to say the least, embarrassing, a British tabloid newspaper published the story with the claim that there was some sort of Nazi connotation to the matter. This is entirely false.

"It is against the law in most countries to publish details of a person's private life without good reason. The publications by The News of the World are a wholly unwarranted invasion of my privacy and I intend to issue legal proceedings against the Newspaper in the UK and other jurisdictions."

Although there have been calls by some for Mosley to resign in the wake of the scandal, in the letter he claims that he has received support from a number of parties who wish him to stand firm in light of the controversy.

"I have received a very large number of messages of sympathy and support from those within the FIA and the motor sport and motoring communities generally, suggesting that my private life is not relevant to my work and that I should continue in my role," wrote Mosley. "I am grateful and with your support I intend to follow this advice.

"I shall now devote some time to those responsible for putting this into the public domain but above all I need to repair the damage to my immediate family who are the innocent and unsuspecting victims of this deliberate and calculated personal attack.

"You can, however be certain that I will not allow any of this to impede my commitment to the work of the FIA."

The letter is the first public statement from Mosley since the story broke in Sunday's News of the World newspaper.

Although Mosley is scheduled to attend this weekend's Bahrain Grand Prix, it is looking increasingly likely that he will choose to skip the event.

Although the news of Mosley's antics has generated a lot of coverage and reaction in the media, so far Formula One teams and manufacturers have remained silent over the matter.

styla21
04-02-2008, 02:49 AM
Wow. Love this one: "but above all I need to repair the damage to my immediate family who are the innocent and unsuspecting victims of this deliberate and calculated personal attack.

He banged 5 hookers!! I can't believe the audacity of the man to attempt to pass the buck, over sticking his piece in 5 hookers and call it a third party attack on his family. Ridiculous. :ban:

I'm sure he is hoping to enjoy the same luck enjoyed by Elliot Spitzer, and his wife doesn't leave him.. Can't understand them not though. :huh:

fordgt84
04-02-2008, 05:50 AM
you know if he's into sado-masochism, that's fine by me :sleep:...but nazi role playing? imagine if he did some kind of apartheid role playing...that's f****d up, the thought of someone getting sexual pleasure from regimes that left permanent scars and ruined the lives of so many people is sickening

Pokiou
04-02-2008, 09:17 AM
it hasnt ruined my life.. nor has it ruined his.... so .. he doesnt care.

styla21
04-02-2008, 09:33 AM
Pok, are you saying Mosley doesn't care about what's going on, or you don't care about the nazi role-playing as the "role playing" doesn't in itself cause harm?

I wrote an inflammatory post saying wtf, but then realised I may have mis-interpreted what you were saying :-)

Pokiou
04-02-2008, 09:44 PM
well look at it this way..

they are shooting a movie and there a people acting as Nazi people.. so should we ask those actors to quit ?

there is a reason why its called Roll playing.

in grade 3 i played one of a jewish roles we had in a play.. doesnt mean i should hate the jews...and it doesnt mean the jews should condem me.. roll playing.. its called that for a reason.

Pok

Mattk
04-02-2008, 09:50 PM
That doesn't change the fact that his fondness for deviant sexual practices has the potential to harm more than just his own life. Many a political leader has been brought down by doing silly things.

styla21
04-02-2008, 10:51 PM
Pok,
I agree with you.. Role playing is just that, role playing. And if Mosley hadn't been caught on film spanking hookers, we wouldn't be discussing it, and others wouldn't be incensed.

The stupidity, and offensiveness of the situation, to me at least, is the fact that a married family man, hired and banged 5 hookers. How kinky they got, I don't really care.

But in terms of his credability and perception as a man of moral substance, I think this has all but gone out the window.

Pokiou
04-02-2008, 11:35 PM
So that means his Family should be the ones kicking his arse, I mean you dont get fired from work for cheating on your wife do you.. What you do in your private life stays in your private life and what you do @ work stays @ work.

What im saying is, he shouldnt be asked to quit his job cause he had a kinky night. Maybe his moral compass is fucked up he wouldnt be able to find his way home but.. on the other hand, she shouldnt be asked to quit, maybe pay a hefty fine?

styla21
04-02-2008, 11:54 PM
on the other hand, she shouldnt be asked to quit, maybe pay a hefty fine?
Unless he has a clause perhaps provisioning for his sacking if considered to have bought the sport into disrepute? Unlikely though to be specific toward "hiring of hookers and spanking to 1942 war theme"

But there is likely nothing binding in his contract to prohibit for philandering. You can successfully argue that point. :-)

I doubt that things will be the same for him again, considering he has next to no respect from those he deals with. In my business, if I was viewed as a complete twisted unloyal fuck, I doubt i'd get deals done either.

RC45
04-03-2008, 12:03 AM
So that means his Family should be the ones kicking his arse, I mean you dont get fired from work for cheating on your wife do you.. What you do in your private life stays in your private life and what you do @ work stays @ work.

What im saying is, he shouldnt be asked to quit his job cause he had a kinky night. Maybe his moral compass is fucked up he wouldnt be able to find his way home but.. on the other hand, she shouldnt be asked to quit, maybe pay a hefty fine?

What you do in your private life only stays in your private life, if you keep it private in your private life.

I am sorry, but if you are fucking whores and playing out Nazi fantasies then you are morally corrupt and unstable and need to step down from your position as leader of a large complex and trusted enterprise.

If this man is willing to be this depraved and dishonest and immoral in his "private" life, then you can bet your arse he is a dishonest, untrustworthy immoral person in his business life.

All credibility and sincerity is lost.

Pokiou
04-03-2008, 12:26 AM
i would agree if the whores in the video where in the F1 chambers or what ever or the sluts worked there but.. they didnt.. there for you cant bring that shit into the office.

RC45
04-03-2008, 12:41 AM
i would agree if the whores in the video where in the F1 chambers or what ever or the sluts worked there but.. they didnt.. there for you cant bring that shit into the office.

Would you take instruction on ethics and following the rules from your manager at work if he had been exposed fucking whores while pretending to be hitler?

Pokiou
04-03-2008, 12:49 AM
Hitler possibly did the same and many people still followed him!

philip
04-03-2008, 12:54 AM
This is right out of the movie the Bank Job, is the upper crust of British society just wierd or what.

I can't believe he thinks he can do anything but retire and disappear.

RC45
04-03-2008, 01:02 AM
Hitler possibly did the same and many people still followed him!

My question was whether you would continue to take moral and ethical instruction from your manager after he was exposed as an unethical and immoral person?

Pokiou
04-03-2008, 01:10 AM
i wouldnt take moral or eithical instructions for anyone. let alone someones who moral compass is fucked up.

But if he was my boss and he asked me to figure out a way to make F1 more fun. Then iw ould listen to him.

styla21
04-03-2008, 01:14 AM
Can't believe what i'm reading ^^ :huh:

RC45
04-03-2008, 01:19 AM
i wouldnt take moral or eithical instructions for anyone. let alone someones who moral compass is fucked up.

When you follow the rules put forth by F1 you are taking moral and ethical instructions.


But if he was my boss and he asked me to figure out a way to make F1 more fun. Then iw ould listen to him.
Why would you listen to the man after he was exposed pretending to be a nazi with 5 whores?

Can't believe what i'm reading ^^ :huh:
Me neither.

Sadly we learned today that many countries and societies do not instill and foster good morals and ethical behaviour.

Yesterday, in Saltlake City Utah, a little 7 year old girl went missing while playing outside he apartment front door.

Today her body was found in the bathroom of an neighbouring apartment.

She appears to have been killed and her body attempted to be hidden by a 21 year old Burmese asylum seeker - he was fresh off the boat from Burma.. literally - he had been in the US for less than 30 days.

When questioned yesterday by the little girls parents if he had seen her - he said no.

I am not saying that just because someone doesnt condemn immoral behavour they are 1 step from child murder, but I am saying that there seems to be a lack of moral condemnation these days that is concerning.

Is it possible that the lack of clear moral direction is partly to blame for this exponential increase in abhorant crimes?

Pokiou
04-03-2008, 02:55 AM
no but the guy wants to ahve kinky sex and there are groups that provide it.. BUT if you said he was having sex with 5 14 yo girls or 16yo girls and hitting them and abusing them, then thats different. I wouldnt listen nor look or in anyway assoc. with them in anyways.

I would love for my fiancé to dress up in a french maide outfit and so forth.. doesnt mean that im some French cheese eating surrender monkey.



you can be shocked as much as you want. But seriously his behaviour didnt affect F1 or teh drivers in anyway what so ever. I find it just silly to go on about it. Im sure if given the chance you would all jump into an orgy with 5 gorgeous woman/man what ever you like. If your married thats your own moral and dignity on the line. Not mine nor anything else.



If he resigns.. then so be it.. IF he doesnt then so be it.. at the end of the day there is going to be an F1 race and it will happen with or with out him.



I dont condole what he has done BUT .. he is only a figure at the top. Should all americans be hated cause of Clinton cock sucking scandal? or should every1 hate Bushs crap? No each to there own.. america will be america with or with out them leaders.. its not the leaders that make the country, company or FIA. Its the group of followers that make it what it is. You cant allow 1 rotten tomato spoil the broth.

Pokiou
04-03-2008, 02:57 AM
I didnt mean to give america as an example but it was just figure of free speech.. :P

fordgt84
04-03-2008, 06:37 AM
^ to be honest no one really cares (maybe not even his wife) that he had sex with prositutes, but what everyone seems to be disgusted by is why the hell he had to go on and act like a fu***g nazi.

If he did the french maid thing i would've just laughed... but this is nazism, it paints the image that he accepted what the nazi did, and maybe wished he was a nazi, so much so that by acting out similar situations of torture, humiliation and oppression he gets sexual satisfaction... i mean how can anyone have a sexual fantasy about the holocaust? that is really messed up, and i wouldn't want anyone like this to be in any position of power no matter how effective he is

styla21
04-03-2008, 06:52 AM
GT, It appears most are missing the distinction here. This is not about whether or not a sex act is right or wrong in their own private domain, but rather that adultery (in shocking taste) was commited and how reflects on Mosleys sincerity, credability, transparency, and trustworthiness.

RC said this perfectly. If his own wife can't trust him, due to being completely devoid of all ethics and moral fibre, how does the business community as a whole?

The FIA will have more corporate fallout behind the scenes, due to the actions of one man, than you may think. ;)

toffytofik
04-03-2008, 07:30 AM
Mosley: BMW and Mercedes-Benz issue joint statement

As widely expected, despite Max Mosley's letter to members of the FIA, and various others, earlier this week, claiming that he has received a large number of messages of support and sympathy from those within the FIA and motor sport, this clearly does not include BMW or Mercedes-Benz.
The two manufacturers have this morning issued a joint statement which will further damage the FIA President, whose position becomes more precarious with each passing day.
The statement reads as follows:
"The content of the publications is disgraceful. As a company, we strongly distance ourselves from it. This incident concerns Max Mosley both personally and as President of the FIA, the global umbrella organisation for motoring clubs. Its consequences therefore extend far beyond the motor sport industry. We await a response from the relevant FIA bodies."Mosley: Toyota issues statement


Less than hour after BMW and Mercedes-Benz issued a joint statement condemning Max Mosley's behaviour, following allegations in a British tabloid newspaper, Toyota has issued its own statement.
It reads as follows:
"Toyota Motorsport does not approve of any behaviour which could be seen to damage Formula 1's image, in particular any behaviour which could be understood to be racist or anti-Semitic.

Senior figures within any sport or business, including motorsport, must adhere to high standards of behaviour. When all the facts are known, it will be for the FIA to decide whether Mr Mosley has met the moral obligations which come with the position of FIA President."And a statement from Honda

Following statements from BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Toyota, Honda has now issued its statement in relation to the ongoing Mosley saga.
It reads:
"It is necessary that senior figures in sport and business maintain the highest standards of conduct in order to fulfil their duties with integrity and respect. The Honda Racing F1 Team is extremely disappointed by recent events surrounding Mr Mosley and we are concerned that the reputation of Formula One and all its participants is being damaged. We request that the FIA gives this matter careful consideration and reaches an immediate decision in the best interests of F1 and Motorsport."source links:
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=34348 (http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=34348)
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=34349 (http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=34349)
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=34350 (http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=34350)


I guess that'll help make him quit. Anyway, maybe he can make as much money selling his home videos?

Fédération Inter-nazi-onale de l'Pornographie presents:

"Mosley's Q3 HOTSlapping Nazi-style!" (on-board footage) [DVD] - Irrepressible Max sets new qualifying rules! Ya, ya, no pitstops allowed!

anyone? :mrgreen:

styla21
04-03-2008, 07:38 AM
Thanks Toffy! Your post just summed up what likely and appropriate consequences that we've been describing throughout the thread. :-)

toffytofik
04-03-2008, 07:42 AM
And look what he replied with!!!

Mosley regrets team statements

Max Mosley came with a statement on Thursday replying to the Formula 1 teams that issued a statement on Mosley's sex scandal. The FIA President regrets the team did not contact him to check if the video was real and slams BMW and Mercedes Benz for their acts during the Second World War.

Mosley said in a statement to Reuters: "Given the history of BMW and Mercedes Benz, particularly before and during the Second World War, I fully understand why they would wish to strongly distance themselves from what they rightly describe as the disgraceful content of these publications.

"Unfortunately, they did not contact me before putting out their statement to ask whether the content was in fact true.

Earlier this week Mosley said he received support from within the FIA saying: "My private life is not relevant to my work and that I should continue in my role. I am grateful and with your support I intend to follow this advice."

:rolleyes:

source: http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2008/04/03/mosley-regrets-team-statements/

styla21
04-03-2008, 08:20 AM
D.I.S.C.R.A.C.E.F.U.L:ban:

RC45
04-03-2008, 09:06 AM
Mosley said in a statement to Reuters: "Given the history of BMW and Mercedes Benz, particularly before and during the Second World War, I fully understand why they would wish to strongly distance themselves from what they rightly describe as the disgraceful content of these publications.

"Unfortunately, they did not contact me before putting out their statement to ask whether the content was in fact true.


Earlier this week Mosley said he received support from within the FIA saying: "My private life is not relevant to my work and that I should continue in my role. I am grateful and with your support I intend to follow this advice."

With responses like this it is quite obvious "Mr Mosely" is quite removed from reality and seems to think he can operate with impunity from a position of moral bankruptcy and poor ethics and clear violation of law... and in his opinion should be above said requirements - afterall - he is Max Mosely - he is above everyone else.

Doesnt his behaviour border on that of a psychopath? ;)

Pokiou
04-03-2008, 09:36 AM
so is there proof that its him ??? t

RC45
04-03-2008, 09:39 AM
so is there proof that its him ??? t

Dont you think if it wasnt him he would have come out and said this on day one?

Instead he has taken the morally corrupt stance of "its my life leave me alone".

nthfinity
04-03-2008, 09:54 AM
With responses like this it is quite obvious "Mr Mosely" is quite removed from reality and seems to think he can operate with impunity from a position of moral bankruptcy and poor ethics and clear violation of law... and in his opinion should be above said requirements - afterall - he is Max Mosely - he is above everyone else.

Doesnt his behaviour border on that of a psychopath? ;)[/left]

I'm still pissed he destroyed the greatest racing formula in the world.... Group C ... all because it was too popular vs. F1.

Pokiou
04-03-2008, 09:59 AM
it doesnt affect you and me.. sooooooo im over it.

RC45
04-03-2008, 10:09 AM
it doesnt affect you and me.. sooooooo im over it.

Actually it does affect you - your acceptance of the event as "normal" has erroded your morality just a little more - in effect Desensitizing your self.

This begs the question of how you would justify not having an opinion on these events to your children?

As you and others accept this behaviour as normal, so you normalize it - till eventually you will have no problem voting for such a morally corrupt and reprehsible person to public office.. afterall, you maintain public behaviour is not impacted or affected by private actions - when in reality and truth, a persons moral and ethical judgement in private is a reflection on what their real motivations and responses would be in public life.

It is rather saddening to see how many people in the world simply refuse hold public figures to a decent standard.

styla21
04-03-2008, 10:18 AM
it doesnt affect you and me.. sooooooo im over it.

Sounds like my ex girlfriends most favoured cop out :-P
Should your schumacher moto gp thread be responded to with "it doesn't affect me"?

Claiming irrelevancy doesn't embolden an opinion. Pok, how hard is it to accept that the leader of a world recognised, esteemed organisation can no longer publicly be entrusted to steer their direction and uphold the organisations image, when they act in a morally devoid way and display no proof moral substance?

nthfinity
04-03-2008, 10:28 AM
Actually it does affect you - your acceptance of the event as "normal" has erroded your morality just a little more - in effect Desensitizing your self.

This begs the question of how you would justify not having an opinion on these events to your children?

As you and others accept this behaviour as normal, so you normalize it - till eventually you will have no problem voting for such a morally corrupt and reprehsible person to public office.. afterall, you maintain public behaviour is not impacted or affected by private actions - when in reality and truth, a persons moral and ethical judgement in private is a reflection on what their real motivations and responses would be in public life.

It is rather saddening to see how many people in the world simply refuse hold public figures to a decent standard.

I'll take this to a logical side step...

If Mosley's Scruples are lacking in his private life, then why should it be that any of the teams should listen to him.... particularly in the Steppneygate scandle last year.... where it was Max's charge to punish McLaren for unethical tactics.... when Mosley himself has been practicing unethical; and bigoted deviances in his private life for decades. (something like what we now know isn't developed overnight!)...
Does Mosley secretly support the spaniards who were chanting racist remarks to Hamilton during the Spanish GP? IS that in fact why they received no punishment as a country to house a GP?....

A lot of past decisions come into question....

toffytofik
04-03-2008, 11:24 AM
MEDIA HAS DISCOVERED WHO SET THIS ALL UP!!!

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/474/cheersladsjs5.jpg

fordgt84
04-03-2008, 01:05 PM
^ :mrgreen:

F250
04-03-2008, 02:01 PM
What do you expect? Max is just being himself. After all, his parents Oswald (leader of the British Union of Fascists) and Diana Mosley were married in 1936, at the home of Joseph Goebbels - Adolph Hiter was the guest of honor.

The Daily Telegraph reffered to Max's mother as an "unrepentant Nazi" in her obituary.

The Mosleys. Just your average next-door family!:thumbup:

Pokiou
04-03-2008, 10:15 PM
Sounds like my ex girlfriends most favoured cop out :-P
Should your schumacher moto gp thread be responded to with "it doesn't affect me"?

Claiming irrelevancy doesn't embolden an opinion. Pok, how hard is it to accept that the leader of a world recognised, esteemed organisation can no longer publicly be entrusted to steer their direction and uphold the organisations image, when they act in a morally devoid way and display no proof moral substance?


This whole thing doesnt worry my. But im a Lewis Hamilton Supporter and i just dont see how he still fits into this, thats what pissed me off.

as far as im concerned this max guy and die. Like i said it doesnt bother me.

Mattk
04-04-2008, 01:06 AM
The main issue here is that Mosley, as a leader of a reputable global organisation, should live ethically. It's bad enough to have orgiastic sadomasochistic sex whilst married, and worse to lie about it. His behaviour has brought scandal to FIA and it should be a responsible act to resign. He has fucked up FIA's credibility.

F250
04-04-2008, 01:52 AM
He has fucked up FIA's credibility.

Except with neo-Nazis.:ohmy:

Here's a plaque commemorating one of Daddy's political failures:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Battle-of-Cable-Street-red-plaque.png/250px-Battle-of-Cable-Street-red-plaque.png

blue8
04-04-2008, 08:30 AM
MEDIA HAS DISCOVERED WHO SET THIS ALL UP!!!

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/474/cheersladsjs5.jpg

This doesn't seem funny for Mosley as he thinks that is exactly what happened :thumbdown:
As if this 'episode' wasn't already damaging enough for F1, Max Mosley has reportedly blamed McLaren-Mercedes for a recent tabloid article relating to his alleged extra-curricular experiences, saying the team set him up.

Mosley has a tension-fraught history with the McLaren team, having slapped them with a £50million fine for last year's Stepneygate scandal in what some felt was his own personal vendetta against team boss Ron Dennis.

'Mosley has confided to friends he believes he may have been the victim of a plot by McLaren-Mercedes, who were fined £50million last year for 'spying' on Ferrari, to destroy his career,' reports the Daily Mail.

The newspaper went on to say that Mosley is determined to prove that he was set-up, which is why he has called an Extraordinary Meeting of the FIA.

However, it's not just Mosley who (allegedly) reckons he was set-up.

Bernie Ecclestone's immediate reaction after hearing the news was to say: "I find it difficult to believe. It's his business but it sounds to me like a set-up."

More telling is that BMW team boss Mario Theissen, who after five days to thinking about it, said on Friday that it did appear as if was entrapment.

"What shouldn't be neglected is it certainly looks like a trap," he said. "And that is something which in our view is not acceptable."

MotorWorld
04-04-2008, 09:37 AM
yet another twist ...

http://www.sniffpetrol.com/wp-content/uploads/maxexpose.jpg Formula 1 racing boss Max Mosley is in hot water this week as Sniff Petrol has exclusively obtained video footage showing the motorsport supremo engaged in SICK activities including pretending to be IN CHARGE of the FIA.

During the 15 YEAR session captured on tape by our spies, Mosley insists on being referred to as THE PRESIDENT and makes those around him follow STRICT RULES, which he then repeatedly changes.

Amongst the DEPRAVED acts caught on camera, our footage shows the F1 figurehead wantonly PUNISHING McLaren for MONEY. He later SPANKS Renault and, in scenes of unbelievable hypocracy, then KISSES THE ARSE of Ferrari.

The disgraceful footage also shows Mosley, 67, TORTURING Formula 1 fans by introducing HARD to understand development freeze rules and TWEAKS to qualifying.

In some scenes the grey haired racing ring master is even shown HANGING OUT with a DWARF, although this later turned out to be Bernard Ecclestone.


source: http://www.sniffpetrol.com/2008/04/04/mosley-exposed/

Mattk
04-04-2008, 11:35 AM
Yeah, entrapment or not, he still bloody did it.

silentm
04-04-2008, 02:11 PM
well if you ahve yourself being taped during such an act you're just a blithering idiot...

imo he should step down from his position. i find that what he did is morally not acceptable and should be punished. i could never agree with a person who did such things in his free time and i would know about it.

damn i feel sorry for the people who have to work for him...

RC45
04-04-2008, 11:04 PM
I do believe he feels that his wealth and "station" should mena he gets special treatment.... he is a textbook example of a corrupt person.

acmarttin
04-05-2008, 03:30 AM
Man I was watching practice (recorded) this morning and they brought this up. I was still in the dark about it as I was disconnected from the media for an out of town project. I thought I had gone crazy when I heard Bob Varsha say "Max Mosley", and "Nazi sex party" in the same sentence. I had to rewind it.

Gotta love how he turns around and points at Mercedes like "Yeah...well...you built Hitler's limo!!!"

What a jackass.

He obviously doesn't give a flying fuck about F1 otherwise he would do at least one decent thing and resign.

pagani
04-05-2008, 06:16 PM
Max mosley father was a Fascist
Fia needs to kick the fucker out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Mosley

Mattk
04-06-2008, 03:26 AM
^Yes, most people know that. Unfortunately, I don't think having sex with hookers is quite considered a breach of contract. Maybe it is, but the FIA would do better to have Mosley leave of his own accord, after he is defeated by shame and humiliation.

F250
04-06-2008, 06:47 AM
Here's Max's mother, Diana (right) and her sister Unity (left). Looks like the beginnings of a Nazi orgy circa 1936. How do you say "sloppy seconds" in German?

http://www.sheilaomalley.com/archives/dianaunity.png

Mattk
04-06-2008, 10:12 PM
The odd thing about having a Nazi-themed orgy is that Hitler wasn't all too approving of deviant sexual practices.

nthfinity
04-06-2008, 10:57 PM
The odd thing about having a Nazi-themed orgy is that Hitler wasn't all too approving of deviant sexual practices.

I'm sure porking his cousin, Eva Braun was quite normal ;)

chinesseguy
04-06-2008, 11:26 PM
why am i not surprised. May this be the downfall of Max Mosley

styla21
04-07-2008, 12:09 AM
^^ Lmao at the sausage festival photo..

Mattk
04-07-2008, 09:24 AM
I'm sure porking his cousin, Eva Braun was quite normal
I think you may mean Geli Raubal, his niece by his half-sister.

nthfinity
04-07-2008, 09:28 AM
I think you may mean Geli Raubal, his niece by his half-sister.

something like that

Pokiou
04-08-2008, 08:49 PM
incest mofo

Here is something to make you all happy :D

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0953317/

blue8
04-09-2008, 11:40 AM
Mosley's future to be decided by June:
The FIA will hold a vote of confidence in president Max Mosley after the Senate accepted his request for an Extraordinary General Assembly meeting, to be held on June 3.

Mosley asked the president of the FIA Senate for the meeting to discuss the fallout from the tabloid revelations into his private life.

The EGA, will be held in Paris and will include a vote of confidence by secret ballot of more than 200 members of the general assembly.

Mosley called for the meeting to explain his position and provide what he hopes will be "total clarity" to the FIA in light of the statements released last week by several national car associations and key Formula One manufacturers requesting that the governing body take action.

He is determined to continue in his role and confirmed his intentions in a letter to the FIA last week.

A statement issued by the FIA today said: "The FIA can confirm that the members of the Senate have unanimously approved the proposal of the President of the FIA, that further to the recent press coverage relating to his private life, an Extraordinary General Assembly should be convened.

"The meeting will be held on June 3, 2008, in Paris. The General Assembly will include a vote of confidence by secret ballot."

RC45
04-09-2008, 11:46 AM
Mosley called for the meeting to explain his position and provide what he hopes will be "total clarity" to the FIA in light of the statements released last week by several national car associations and key Formula One manufacturers requesting that the governing body take action.

He is determined to continue in his role and confirmed his intentions in a letter to the FIA last week.


Is he for real?

If they vote him "in" then the entire membership is made up of trash.

Maybe its time for the maufacturers and teams to walk from the FIA and have a new body created - all of motorsport might be better for it in the end.

pagani
04-09-2008, 12:35 PM
Is he for real?

If they vote him "in" then the entire membership is made up of trash.

Maybe its time for the maufacturers and teams to walk from the FIA and have a new body created - all of motorsport might be better for it in the end.
Fuck the fia
They have made f1 very boring whit their boring ass rules
And the same whit the wrc rally series.

styla21
07-24-2008, 05:54 AM
Max had a win today, in his suit again the UK press association.

LONDON, England (CNN) -- Formula One chief Max Mosley has won a privacy case against a British tabloid newspaper over a story alleging he attended a five-hour sex session involving Nazi role play, court officials said Thursday.
FIA president Max Mosley sued the News of the World for violation of privacy.

The UK's Press Association said the 68-year-old, was awarded £60,000 ($120,000) against publishers of the News of the World, which printed photographs of the session and posted video on its Web site.
Mosley, who is president of Formula One's governing body -- the FIA -- and the son of the late British fascist politician Oswald Mosley, had admitted taking part in sado-masochistic but said he abhorred the idea of Nazi sex fantasies.
He said his life was devastated by the claims published in March and the secretly-filmed footage, labeled "truly grotesque and depraved" by the newspaper, which attracted at least 3.5 million hits, according to PA.
James Price QC told London's High Court the "gross and indefensible intrusion" was made substantially worse by the newspaper's suggestion that Mosley was playing a concentration camp commandant and a death camp inmate.
The newspaper's editor, Colin Myler, said he believed the story was one of "legitimate public interest and one that I believe was legitimately published," PA reported.
Myler said it was "absolutely not true" that the newspaper had fabricated the Nazi aspect.

Pokiou
07-24-2008, 09:56 AM
im with rc on this.. i lost confidence in the FIA...

Mattk
07-25-2008, 12:12 AM
Max had a win today, in his suit again the UK press association.

Fair enough. The damage has already been done, though.

silentm
07-25-2008, 09:03 AM
kinda reminds me of the movie "The Bank Job" but turns out that this kind of stuff will not make you loose your job...

styla21
07-25-2008, 09:47 AM
Fair enough. The damage has already been done, though.

What damage? He kept his position, and had an orgy.
We're not discussing ramifications on family, friends, and general respect.

Mattk
07-25-2008, 12:26 PM
^He kept his position, but with a lot less personal respect. I disagree and think that in any discussion of Mosley, we have to take into account his personal life. I highly doubt his marriage will survive, and if it does, I do not predict it will be a happy one. People will look at him strangely. He was never popular and now people think he's a freak.

F250
07-25-2008, 12:46 PM
So Max "won" $120,000! I'm quite sure the newspaper that lost the case paid much more than that for the Mosley Nazi-family-fun-fest video. And made 50 times that amount by publioshing the stories.

Alelanza
07-25-2008, 01:23 PM
Max had a win today, in his suit again the UK press association.

That's a good decision from the court

philip
07-25-2008, 06:45 PM
For those of us used to the screwed up things that go on in the U.S. The British legal system seems quite unique. A public figure is caught doing something which is illegal in the U.S. (I presume the ladies were being paid) and the newspaper who catches him pays him money. Wow.

Kind of like Govenor Elliot Spitzer keeping his job and the Washington Post having to pay money to him for exposing his flings with prostitutes. (invasion of privacy)

Kind of reminds me of when in the '50's Liberace sued a British newspaper for saying he was a homosexual and won a libel judgement from them.

Just very strange.

nthfinity
07-25-2008, 08:39 PM
Kind of reminds me of when in the '50's Liberace sued a British newspaper for saying he was a homosexual and won a libel judgement from them.


Liberace, a homosexual? what?? LOL

wow... too bad Rock Hudson wasn't in on that suite.

philip
07-26-2008, 12:05 AM
Not to hijack as this is a post about the head of F1 being caught on tape having a Nazi SandM orgy and now the courts ordering the newspaper to pay him 120k pounds for reporting it.

In a similar judicial disservice in the '50's the press paid for calling Liberace a homosexual. Actually if you read this article from Wiki they only hinted that he was homosexual but that was enough for him to sue and win his libel case.

"Lawsuits and alleged homosexuality
Liberace's fame in the U.S. was matched for a time in the UK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom). In 1957, an article in The Daily Mirror (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Mirror) by veteran columnist Cassandra (William Connor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Connor)) mentioned that Liberace was "...the summit of sex--the pinnacle of masculine, feminine, and neuter. Everything that he, she, and it can ever want... a deadly, winking, sniggering, snuggling, chromium-plated, scent-impregnated, luminous, quivering, giggling, fruit-flavoured, mincing, ice-covered heap of mother love," a description which did everything it could to imply he was homosexual without saying so. Liberace sued the newspaper for libel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libel), testifying in a London court that he was not a homosexual, and had never taken part in homosexual acts. He won the suit on the basis of the term fruit-flavoured (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_%28slang%29) which was held to impute homosexuality. [1] (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0508766/bi) The £8,000 ($22,400) damages he received from The Daily Mirror led Liberace to alter his catchphrase to "I cried all the way to the bank!"[42] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberace#cite_note-41)
He fought and settled a similar case in the United States against Confidential (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidential_%28magazine%29). Rumors and gossip magazines frequently alleged behavior that strongly implied that he was a homosexual. A typical issue of Confidential in 1957 shouted, "Why Liberace's Theme Song Should Be 'Mad About the Boy!'"[43] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberace#cite_note-pyron211-42)
In 1982, Liberace's alleged live-in boyfriend of some five years, Scott Thorson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Thorson), sued the pianist for $113 million in palimony (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palimony) after an acrimonious split-up. Liberace continued to publicly deny that he was homosexual. In 1984, most of Thorson's claim was dismissed although he received a $95,000 settlement.[44] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberace#cite_note-43) Later in the decade Thorson emerged as a pivotal witness in the prosecution of reputed gangster Eddie Nash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Nash) in the 1981 quadruple murder of the Wonderland Gang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderland_Gang).
Confusion over Liberace's true sexuality was further muddled in the public's mind by his public friendships and romantic links with actress Joanne Rio (whom he claimed he nearly married), skater Sonja Henie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonja_Henie), aging Hollywood icon Mae West (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mae_West), and famous transsexual Christine Jorgenson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgenson).[45] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberace#cite_note-pyron210-44) Many publicity releases and women's magazine articles attempted to counter the gay rumors by portraying Liberace as "the perfect all-around man any woman would be thrilled to be with…He's so considerate on dates... He never forgets the little things that women love…He makes you feel that when you are with him, well, you really are with him." Another article was entitled "Mature Women Are Best: TV's Top Pianist Reveals What Kind of Woman He'd Marry".[45] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberace#cite_note-pyron210-44)
Shock rocker Alice Cooper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Cooper) stated in his auto-biography: Alice Cooper: Golf Monster (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alice_Cooper:_Golf_Monster&action=edit&redlink=1), that when he met Liberace many years ago, as soon as they were away from the cameras, he adopted a lower voice, and ordered that female groupies be brought in. Alice went on to question whether Liberace was truly homosexual, or just playing the part."

I still cant imagine this F1 guy kept his job. The world gets crazier everyday.

RC45
07-26-2008, 12:13 AM
I still cant imagine this F1 guy kept his job. The world gets crazier everyday.

No kidding - and even after this fiasco, members of the FIA are expected to respect and abide by any and all of his and the governing bodies rulings.

It really is an upside down world - if any of us regular joes displayed such lack of character and judgment in any type of public capacity, we would end up losing everything.

There is no doubt there are 2 sets of rules applied - 1 for the elite and then another for the rest.

5vz-fe
07-26-2008, 12:56 AM
^I think that has been clearly proven by celebs in CA with their drink and drives LOL.

Mattk
07-26-2008, 02:57 AM
Max Mosley is hardly elite anymore. Sir Oswald was almost completely discredited after the Fascists lost power in Europe.

RC45
07-26-2008, 02:58 AM
Max Mosley is hardly elite anymore. Sir Oswald was almost completely discredited after the Fascists lost power in Europe.

Not elite?

The man is part of the wealthy jetset immune to the laws of the land... pretty much makes him part of the elite.

Mattk
07-26-2008, 04:36 AM
^The decision was actually legally consistent with previous ones, such as the Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones wedding case. He is hardly immune. He can just afford to hire better lawyers. Yes, I'd concede that is inequitable, but my point still stands.

F250
07-26-2008, 04:53 AM
Max Mosley is hardly elite anymore. Sir Oswald was almost completely discredited after the Fascists lost power in Europe.

Are you saying he was well-respected in England during the war?:laugh:

F250
07-26-2008, 04:58 AM
Liberace, a homosexual? what?? LOL

wow... too bad Rock Hudson wasn't in on that suite.

I believe Rock Hudson and Liberace may have been en suite.

RC45
07-26-2008, 12:51 PM
^The decision was actually legally consistent with previous ones, such as the Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta-Jones wedding case. He is hardly immune. He can just afford to hire better lawyers. Yes, I'd concede that is inequitable, but my point still stands.

No, your point doesnt stand - it is both pedantic and unneeded.

Max Mosely is by very definition "one of the modern elite" - 99.99999999999999999999% of the global population either doesnt care or remember "the Mosely's of WWII" - they know and apparently "care" for and fawn over the super wealthy, well connected, legally immune, superstar boss of the FIA.

To try imply or otherwise suggest Max Mosley is not a member of the "elite" is simply incorrect.

Ah, forget it..... you have your view and I have mine.

Mattk
07-27-2008, 03:09 AM
Are you saying he was well-respected in England during the war?
Well, no, not really; his heyday was during the 20s and 30s. :)