First real test drive of the scc ultimate aero tt

[pagani]

My favorite current supercar testdrive by Business Week magazine
I am very impressed that a such a small company could build such a impressive car
SSC Ultimate Aero - A BusinessWeek Exclusive - YouTube
:-):thumbup:

[enzoferrari]

Is one of my favorite 2,thanks for the vid,the SSC is awesome.

[RC45]

Well - they needed a 2 mile straight road to go 256mph.. lets see how slow it goes on a banked oval ;)

[pagani]

Well - they needed a 2 mile straight road to go 256mph.. lets see how slow it goes on a banked oval ;)
A oval creates to much friction to reach a high speed.
On the other a oval speed run would be cool
:-):thumbup:

[pagani]

Is one of my favorite 2,thanks for the vid,the SSC is awesome.
It's sure is kick ass.
And the company is very small.
How cool would be to get aero testest by topgear and than jc has admit it's just as good as the veyron.
:-):twisted:

[enzoferrari]

How cool would be to get aero testest by topgear and than jc has admit it's just as good as the veyron. just imagine!:laugh:

[leblanc2.0]

:eek:You guys really like this car??? Compare this car with Veyron..OMG! Sorry but this car is a piece off trash,ugly,bad engineered,etc.

With JC this car goes direct to hell,Veyron to heaven.

[turpija]

is the 0-60 and 1/4mile time estimated or real life tested?

[pagani]

:eek:You guys really like this car??? Compare this car with Veyron..OMG! Sorry but this car is a piece off trash,ugly,bad engineered,etc.

With JC this car goes direct to hell,Veyron to heaven.
I like hell more then heaven

[pagani]

is the 0-60 and 1/4mile time estimated or real life tested?
real live tested by them selve
Full specs

Engine


Type:Block and Heads (V-8)Displacement:387.2 cu.in.Bore x Stroke:4.125 x 3.620"Compression Ratio:8.975:1Horsepower:1183 bhp @ 6950 rpmTorque:1094 lb./ft. @ 6150 rpmRedline:7200 rpmFuel Injection:Electronic Sequential PortWeight:422 lbs.Oil:SAE 5W/30 Fully Synthetic RacingInduction System:Sequential, multi-port fuel injection, Twin Turbo Chargers. Dual-Water to Air Intercoolers.Fuel:Premium Unleaded - 91 Pump Octanehttp://www.shelbysupercars.com/images/engine.jpg



Warranty


Basic Warranty:1 Year / Unlimited MilesPowertrain:1 Year / Unlimited MilesRust-Through:N/A

Chassis & Body


Layout:Mid-Engine/Rear DriveBody/Frame:Carbon Fiber/Composite/Steel
Space FrameBrakes:Front: 14.0" Vented Slotted Discs/8-Piston Caliper.
Rear: 14.0" Vented Slotted Discs/6-Piston Caliper.Wheels:Forged 3-Piece Alloy 19x9-1/2" Front, 20x13" RearTires:Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
Front: 235 35 (YR)19.
Rear: 335 30 (YR)20.http://www.shelbysupercars.com/images/chassis-body.jpg

Steering:Rack and Pinion, AssistedTurns, Lock to Lock:2.5Turning Circle:41.6 ft.Suspension:Front: Unequal Length Upper and Lower A-Arms, Coil Over Springs, Remote Reservoir-Adjustable Penske Coil-Over Shocks, Cab Controlled Air Lift, Anti-Roll Bar.
Rear: Unequal Lengths Upper Rocker and Lower A-Arm, Adjustable Coil-Over Springs, Remote Reservoir-Adjustable Penske Coil-Over Shock, Anti-Roll Bar.

The Ultimate Aero Dynamics


Coefficient of Drag (Cd):0.357Frontal Area:19.0 sq. ft.Belly Pan:Complete flat belly pan with rear Venturi tunnels.

General Data


Dry Weight:2,750 lbs.Weight to Horsepower
Ratio (lbs/hp):2.33 - New Production Record!Weight Distribution F/R:Front: 42%
Rear: 58%Wheel Base:105.2"Length:176.2"Width:82.7"Height:43.0"Ground Clearance:4.0"Trunk Space:2.6 cu. ft.http://www.shelbysupercars.com/images/wind-tunnel.jpg



Accomodations


Seating Capacity:2 Custom Recaro SeatsHeadroom:38.5"Seat Width:2 x 19"Leg Room:47.0"Seat Back Adjustment:25ºSeat Travel:6.0"http://www.shelbysupercars.com/images/interior.jpg



Drive Train


GearRatioRPMMPH1st3.00:1720058.5172nd2.15:1720081. 6513rd1.5:17200117.0334th1.1304:17200155.2945th0.8 667:17200202.5576th0.6452:17200272.102Final Drive Ratio: 3.4444:1
Engine RPM @ 60 Top Gear: 1550


Instrumentation


Gauges:260-mph Speedometer, 8000-rpm Tachometer, Sequential Shift Lights, Horsepower Gauge, Oil Pressure, Water Temperature, Fuel Level, VoltAudio/Video:Navigation System, 10-Speaker Premium Audio/CD/DVD System, 7.5" Video/DVD Screen, Automatic Back-Up Camerahttp://www.shelbysupercars.com/images/gauges.jpg



Standard Equipment


Includes:Air Conditioning, Power Windows, Power Mirrors, Tilt-Steering, Cab-Controlled Front Air Lift

Record-Breaking Times


0-60 mph:2.78 seconds1/4 Mile:9.90 seconds at 144 mphTop Speed:257.41 MPH / Official Average: 256.15 MPHSkidpad:1.05 g0-100mph-0:11.6660mph-0 (braking):103 feet
:-):thumbup::twisted:

[toffytofik]

All i have to say, this car is fukin impressive! Like the looks as well.

The only flaw i noticed so far is the Cd ~ 0.357? Isn't that great. Why wouldn't they make it lower? That'd helped by alot at such speeds. Nonetheless, amazing project! I'm really interested to see it's best shot at reaching top possible speed and a couple of hot laps on the 'ring!

Oh, i just found out it was mentioned in the Top Gear news where Clarkson bashed it his usual anti-american way! :D

Here, in case someone missed:

YouTube

[pagani]

All i have to say, this car is fukin impressive! Like the looks as well.

The only flaw i noticed so far is the Cd ~ 0.357? Isn't that great. Why wouldn't they make it lower? That'd helped by alot at such speeds. Nonetheless, amazing project! I'm really interested to see it's best shot at reaching top possible speed and a couple of hot laps on the 'ring!

Oh, i just found out it was mentioned in the Top Gear news and Clarskon bashed it his usual anti-American way! :D

Here, in case someone missed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBDzukCX2U8
That is some good publicty for scc
And they should let make jc eat his cubic hair if the ride of the aero is as good as the veyron.
I think the aero pack is just about perfect for the car no need for lower the cd figure.
:-):thumbup::twisted:

[enzoferrari]

Sorry but this car is a piece off trash,ugly,bad engineered,etc. Ok:?:It looks way better than the stupid Veyron,is faster,less expensive,the V8 sounds better,do you think that a bad engineered car will hit 256 mph, and thats without the stupid V16 with 4 turbos with a VW shape,and why are you hating,is a small company but look at the numbers 0-60 mph:2.78 seconds1/4 Mile:9.90 seconds at 144 mphTop Speed:257.41 MPH / Official Average: 256.15 MPHSkidpad:1.05 g0-100mph-0:11.6660mph-0 (braking):103 feet
PLUS+
Includes:Air Conditioning, Power Windows, Power Mirrors, Tilt-Steering, Cab-Controlled Front Air Lift
Video/DVD Screen, Automatic Back-Up Camera.

[pagani]

Ok:?:It looks way better than the stupid Veyron,is faster,less expensive,the V8 sounds better,do you think that a bad engineered car will hit 256 mph, and thats without the stupid V16 with 4 turbos with a VW shape,and why are you hating,is a small company but look at the numbers 0-60 mph:2.78 seconds1/4 Mile:9.90 seconds at 144 mphTop Speed:257.41 MPH / Official Average: 256.15 MPHSkidpad:1.05 g0-100mph-0:11.6660mph-0 (braking):103 feet
PLUS+
Includes:Air Conditioning, Power Windows, Power Mirrors, Tilt-Steering, Cab-Controlled Front Air Lift
Video/DVD Screen, Automatic Back-Up Camera.
This hardcore pure drivers car rc45's idea of a supercar.
:-):thumbup::-P

[79TA]

The drag coefficient is 0.357??? That seems really high when compared to many less sleek looking cars. Then again, I think many manufacturers nowadays aren't particularily honest about the CD as it's not something that is easily tested like 0-60 times.

[nthfinity]

Nice video Pagani :)

This is a car that has grown on me in the past few months... Just as S7 production ends, the SSC fills in that gap :)

:eek:Sorry but this car is a piece off trash,ugly,bad engineered,etc.



What makes you think that it's poorly engineered piece of trash? What do you know that we don't ???

[nthfinity]

The drag coefficient is 0.357??? That seems really high when compared to many less sleek looking cars. Then again, I think many manufacturers nowadays aren't particularily honest about the CD as it's not something that is easily tested like 0-60 times.

The Veyron is .36 in "top speed mode" and .37 in normal configuration, and a mid .37 for High d/f mode.... just as a comparison...

[pagani]

Nice video Pagani :)

This is a car that has grown on me in the past few months... Just as S7 production ends, the SSC fills in that gap :)



What makes you think that it's poorly engineered piece of trash? What do you know that we don't ???
It's the new american supercar king
:-):thumbup:

[leblanc2.0]

The veryron is just a computer on wheels.

But its a computer that works...


YouTube

[79TA]

It should be apparent that the SSC doesn't deserve the kitcar moniker. Save that sort of insult for the Factory Five GTM cars. I assume by bends you mean that it handles well. It weighs about 33% more than the SSC and I can assure you the SSC would run circles around a Veyron at any given track.

The Veyron does have more complex design as it was designed with a luxury aspect in mind. This is what sets the Veyron apart from other cars in my mind. You can go to 253 comfortably. That same speed can be neared or eclipsed by other cars but it's much more exciting (uncomfortable.) Being enthusiastic about the SSC does not mean disrespecting the Veyron. I see no problem in comparing the two cars. I still love the Veyron. I don't know why can't atleast respect the SSC for what it is.

[leblanc2.0]

You probably know that the Koenigsegg's engine is made by Ford US, don't you ? ;-)


Yes like Ford GT.


YouTube


Now Koenigsegg's engine is made by themselfs.Its a racing engine.And you have nascar and other races.

[nthfinity]

Yes like Ford GT.


Now Koenigsegg's engine is made by themselfs.Its a racing engine.And you have nascar and other races.

While it is now made by the Koenigsegg, the CCX engine is wholly of a design from Lansing, Michigan ;)

Again, are you going to back from your statement, or are you going to defend it with substance?

[79TA]

^I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the koenigsegg engine is nothing more than something slightly custom out of the Dart engine block catalogue.

Anyway, I'm still waiting for you to explain and support your comments about the SSC.

[nthfinity]

^I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the koenigsegg engine is nothing more than something slightly custom out of the Dart engine block catalogue.


Oh, the engine is exotic componentry, all right.

[Carbodiox]

Our cars are in other level,that US cars cant reach.Your cars only need to last 4 years.


But dont think that i hate all US cars.I like the Mustang Rouch,Ford GTX1,old GT40 and the beautiful Shelby GT500.


I totaly second that.

It's [aero] not even close to style, usfulness and complexity of design and engeneering of its biggest competitor Veyron.

[leblanc2.0]

Engines with double overhead cams are hardly engineering marvels as they, like the pushrod V8's, have been around since the 1930's. Also, variable valve timing has yet to do anything outstanding for the performance of normal production cars. I'm still not seeing any specific points. But of course, being an American enthusiastic about the SSC must mean I'm single-minded and short-sited right? :rolleyes:

Man its you that say that not me.

Its a question of tastes.I like red cars and you blue perhaps.Its a diferent point of view.

[79TA]

Yes, one point of view, mine, has been backed up by some actual points. Another, that where the SSC is arbitrarily disprespected, is nothing more than an unbacked claim. Take your pick I guess.

[nthfinity]

Man its you that say that not me.

Its a question of tastes.I like red cars and you blue perhaps.Its a diferent point of view.

What does "different point of view" have to do with how well a car is engineered?

[Carbodiox]

nthfinity sorry and no offence but if u think that all that u have mentioned amaricans did first for ex with mid engine car read more about history of motor (and european) engeneering

[79TA]

I know the Veyron's tires wouldn't last too long at 250 mph but is that really the reason they'd limit the speed? People at Bonneville can seem to find suitable tires. Then again, those are usually strictly for top speed runs.

[HeilSvenska]

I know the Veyron's tires wouldn't last too long at 250 mph but is that really the reason they'd limit the speed? People at Bonneville can seem to find suitable tires. Then again, those are usually strictly for top speed runs.
I don't see the point either. Then again, Veyron's Michelin PAXs are designed so that you could use them everyday then on that day you wanna go 250mph. Bugatti does recommend you to get a new set before you do 250mph, though. Recommend probably meaning that they'll void your warranty if you don't. :mrgreen:

[nthfinity]

I don't see the point either. Then again, Veyron's Michelin PAXs are designed so that you could use them everyday then on that day you wanna go 250mph. Bugatti does recommend you to get a new set before you do 250mph, though. Recommend probably meaning that they'll void your warranty if you don't. :mrgreen:

No, they only void the warranty on the tires if you do a standing start hard launch.

[HeilSvenska]

No, they only void the warranty on the tires if you do a standing start hard launch.
I meant the car itself. :mrgreen: Then again, isn't the warranty void if you use the second key anyways? I think I heard something like that. Although... that doesn't sound right.

[chedisme]

clarkson say a picture of this on an episode and instantly said he hated it and that it would be crap. i still think he should test it though.

[pagani]

I know the Veyron's tires wouldn't last too long at 250 mph but is that really the reason they'd limit the speed? People at Bonneville can seem to find suitable tires. Then again, those are usually strictly for top speed runs.
I wonder how the tires will hold up on the scc ultimate aero tt on a top speed run?
:-):thumbup:

[turpija]

it's normal to compare the Veyron and SSC becouse Veyron was fastest and SSC is fastest now, but infact they are very different cars, I guess SSC is supercar for all those people that don't like Veyron.
comparing SSC to Koenigsegg would be very cool becouse they are pretty similar,both have Forced induction V8, RWD, manual gearboxes, and lack of any electronic aids, also similar weight.
the PR guy from SSC also agrees that SSC is more like Koenigsegg.
but when you realize that 800hp CCR went 388kmh(242mph) on banked Nardo which decreases the top speed by few miles you begin to wonder how fast a 1000hp+ Koenigsegg would go.
and that's a comparison I would like to see :)

btw here is video were the PR guy says that SSC is more like Koenigsegg then the Veyron ;)
it starts at 3:20mark
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Ultimate-Aero-TT-SSC-Ford-GT40-McLaren-F1-GARAGE41_150349.htm

[pagani]

it's normal to compare the Veyron and SSC becouse Veyron was fastest and SSC is fastest now, but infact they are very different cars, I guess SSC is supercar for all those people that don't like Veyron.
comparing SSC to Koenigsegg would be very cool becouse they are pretty similar,both have Forced induction V8, RWD, manual gearboxes, and lack of any electronic aids, also similar weight.
the PR guy from SSC also agrees that SSC is more like Koenigsegg.
but when you realize that 800hp CCR went 388kmh(242mph) on banked Nardo which decreases the top speed by few miles you begin to wonder how fast a 1000hp+ Koenigsegg would go.
and that's a comparison I would like to see :)

btw here is video were the PR guy says that SSC is more like Koenigsegg then the Veyron ;)
it starts at 3:20mark
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Ultimate-Aero-TT-SSC-Ford-GT40-McLaren-F1-GARAGE41_150349.htm
The veyron is very diffrent car than the scc
and the pr guy scc is right about the comparing.
And if you love both you schould buy both.

[leblanc2.0]

Top Gear videos,no links.

Top.Gear 2007 Bugatti Veyron top speed test
Top Gear race Plane Vs Bugatti Veyron

And some ppl says that cant be driven in public roads:mrgreen:

[leblanc2.0]

it's normal to compare the Veyron and SSC becouse Veyron was fastest and SSC is fastest now, but infact they are very different cars, I guess SSC is supercar for all those people that don't like Veyron.
comparing SSC to Koenigsegg would be very cool becouse they are pretty similar,both have Forced induction V8, RWD, manual gearboxes, and lack of any electronic aids, also similar weight.
the PR guy from SSC also agrees that SSC is more like Koenigsegg.
but when you realize that 800hp CCR went 388kmh(242mph) on banked Nardo which decreases the top speed by few miles you begin to wonder how fast a 1000hp+ Koenigsegg would go.
and that's a comparison I would like to see :)

btw here is video were the PR guy says that SSC is more like Koenigsegg then the Veyron ;)
it starts at 3:20mark
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Ultimate-Aero-TT-SSC-Ford-GT40-McLaren-F1-GARAGE41_150349.htm

Well someone notice the diference between this cars.


For me Koenigsegg lacks a NA V12.A V8 turbocharge is not enough,many turbo lag.And it breaks down all the time.

[Svensson]

Read the rules "leblanc2.0"... you can't post TopGear vids or features here.

[leblanc2.0]

Read the rules "leblanc2.0"... you can't post TopGear vids or features here.

Thank you for remind me.:thumbup:

[nthfinity]

Read the rules "leblanc2.0"... you can't post TopGear vids or features here.

It's ok for youtube links etc..... or to our own torrent files...

[leblanc2.0]

It's ok for youtube links etc..... or to our own torrent files...

Now i can put youtube links about top gear? Cool!

[nthfinity]

Now i can put youtube links about top gear? Cool!

Not full features... but putting a link to the full feature that is in the video vault is great ;)

[nthfinity]

Links to hi-res features in the video vault
Veyron v. Typhoon (http://www.motorworld.net/videovault/details.php?id=1966)
Veyron Top Speed (http://www.motorworld.net/videovault/details.php?id=1717)
Veyron first test feature (http://www.motorworld.net/videovault/details.php?id=1388)

[pagani]

Well someone notice the diference between this cars.


For me Koenigsegg lacks a NA V12.A V8 turbocharge is not enough,many turbo lag.And it breaks down all the time.
V8 twin turbo is plenty.

[HeilSvenska]

Anyways...

SSC Aero TT would be closer to the Koenigsegg CCXR than the Veyron, not just in the number of cylinders, but in their intent.

And yeah. Twin turbo V8's plenty enough.

[pagani]

Anyways...

SSC Aero TT would be closer to the Koenigsegg CCXR than the Veyron, not just in the number of cylinders, but in their intent.

And yeah. Twin turbo V8's plenty enough.
Your spot on
:-P

[abrown250]

i think jc said it best. the car is rubbish. it doesnt even come close to the bugatti in terms of quality, handling, and refinement. that ssc is just a kit car that can do 256mph. just look at the interior. my little 15 yr old sister could design a nicer looking cockpit. plus, isn't the veyron "limited" to 253mph because the tires can't handle any faster? Regardless, I think the ssc is fast, but thats about it. The veyron is more an event when you drive it, and makes the ssc look like one of those toy electric cars by comparison.

[HeilSvenska]

i think jc said it best. the car is rubbish. it doesnt even come close to the bugatti in terms of quality, handling, and refinement. that ssc is just a kit car that can do 256mph. just look at the interior.
That's quite a claim from a person who doesn't own either of those cars.

[abrown250]

That's quite a claim from a person who doesn't own either of those cars.

its not a claim its an opinion. and its based on articles and videos about both cars. maybe rubbish is the wrong word, but i dont think its really comparable to a veyron because aside from its straight line speed, it lacks everything else the veyron has. not that i own one or anything ;-)

[nthfinity]

I think its better to compare the SSC vs. the Koenigsegg... or the S7 1000 hp TT, or the Mosler MT900, or Zonda etc.

Comparing this to the Veyron is really only applicable in top speed. Abrown250.

But why all the hate on SSC by the euro's? particularly when all you know about it is its mid engine, 1100+ hp, and 250+ mph.

[pagani]

That's quite a claim from a person who doesn't own either of those cars.
It sure is
:-)

[abrown250]

easy there guy im just stating an opinion... sheesh:-P

[HeilSvenska]

its not a claim its an opinion. and its based on articles and videos about both cars. maybe rubbish is the wrong word, but i dont think its really comparable to a veyron because aside from its straight line speed, it lacks everything else the veyron has. not that i own one or anything ;-)
You presented those opinions as if they were facts. There's not enough articles on SSC Aero TT to compare it to anything. And I've already presented my opinion already so I won't repeat myself. I'm not trying to be offensive, I'm just telling you to watch how you say things. ;-)

[Erez]

even if its faster you can't compare it to the veyron, it not even in the same category.. (and i dont mean in the performance department, as to be honest i haven't checked all the numbers, nur do i care) if you have the money get what you want otherwise stfu about this or that sucks, americans will defend their cars to the death, clarkson, tho funny as hell to me, is just that, he says shit about the germans, americans, basically anyone who isn't british..
the z06 is a great car for everyday, if you live in the states, and for what you pay for it there, not so the case in other places (for the money after taxes... the roads.. etc) calling the veyron stupid is just ignorant, its a brilliant peace of engineering, as for looks, to each his own i guess, i find the veyron stunning you may not feel the same, and that's fine, you can't criticize taste (tho everyone seems to want to), and yeah i dont like the looks of the SSC one bit.. but thats me.. either way, i haven't got the money for any of them anyways..

[abrown250]

good point, but i think HeilSvenska just takes these forums too seriously sometimes

[HeilSvenska]

If I don't take things seriously, they're not worth talking about. ;-)

[chedisme]

i dont get if the veyron is limited by the tires just get better tires. if the ssc has tires that can do 256, and there a small company, why cant VW find tires that can do it. or heres a bright idea create tires that can handle it. i mean they already spent about 5 million dollars on the veyron, why not spend some more and get better tires.

and just just to clarify i like both cars equally in different ways.

[turpija]

i dont get if the veyron is limited by the tires just get better tires. if the ssc has tires that can do 256, and there a small company, why cant VW find tires that can do it. or heres a bright idea create tires that can handle it. i mean they already spent about 5 million dollars on the veyron, why not spend some more and get better tires.

and just just to clarify i like both cars equally in different ways.

Veyron uses specially developed tires and they are rated to 250mph+ so they are guaranted they can take top speed run without problems(if they are not damaged)
SSC uses Michelin pilot sport ps2 which is high end tire but they are not rated for 250mph, they don't "explode" when driven faster then they rated speed, but the manufacturer doesn't guarante you that they are safe beyond rated speed.

[F250]

I run Portuguese tires on my Veyron. They are made of hemp, fishmeal, and cattle dung. Jeremy Clarkson thinks they are better than American Goodyears.

[pagani]

Veyron uses specially developed tires and they are rated to 250mph+ so they are guaranted they can take top speed run without problems(if they are not damaged)
SSC uses Michelin pilot sport ps2 which is high end tire but they are not rated for 250mph, they don't "explode" when driven faster then they rated speed, but the manufacturer doesn't guarante you that they are safe beyond rated speed.
How many people that will buy the scc will test it's top speed?

[abrown250]

so does that mean that bugatti simply didnt take the risk like ssc of seeing how much faster the car could go?

[toffytofik]

^
No. Power to weight ratio simply isn't good enough to go any faster regardless of tires.

i dont get if the veyron is limited by the tires just get better tires. if the ssc has tires that can do 256, and there a small company, why cant VW find tires that can do it. or heres a bright idea create tires that can handle it. i mean they already spent about 5 million dollars on the veyron, why not spend some more and get better tires.

and just just to clarify i like both cars equally in different ways.
In terms of weight Veyron is a fuken tank. Add the fact it has positive net downforce and you'll get the weight getting close to something like 2,5 tons at 400kph, so tires heat very rapidly. Now Bugatti claims they'll last whole 15 minutes under such load which is actually great achivement. I don't doubt they designed the tires as good as they could.

[turpija]

How many people that will buy the scc will test it's top speed?

I don't know, first we must see how many people will buy it :-D

so does that mean that bugatti simply didnt take the risk like ssc of seeing how much faster the car could go?


yes I think so, but the orignial goal set by Mr.Piech was 1000hp, 400kmh top speed, and every day useability, so 407kmh is more then originaly planed;-) but I heard that Piech secretly wanted to beat old Porsche 962 dauer so they did a little bit extra top speed just to be sure :-D

No. Power to weight ratio simply isn't good enough to go any faster regardless of tires.
weight has little to do with top speed, it's simple drag vs power thing, SSC has much better power to weight ratio but that resulted in just slightly better top speed.

[pagani]

I don't know, first we must see how many people will buy it :-D



yes I think so, but the orignial goal set by Mr.Piech was 1000hp, 400kmh top speed, and every day useability, so 407kmh is more then originaly planed;-) but I heard that Piech secretly wanted to beat old Porsche 962 dauer so they did a little bit extra top speed just to be sure :-D


weight has little to do with top speed, it's simple drag vs power thing, SSC has much better power to weight ratio but that resulted in just slightly better top speed.
The scc could go faster than it's current record.
:-)

[enzoferrari]

I run Portuguese tires on my Veyron. They are made of hemp, fishmeal, and cattle dung. Jeremy Clarkson thinks they are better than American Goodyears. and if clarson says that the car is ugly,it would be ugly for you,right.

[turpija]

The scc could go faster than it's current record.
:-)

yea that's what's buging me, people will allways say that, even if Koenigsegg beats SSC people will say that SSC can go faster

[enzoferrari]

even if Koenigsegg beats SSC people will say that SSC can go faster Please:thumbdown:
numbers dont lie.

[turpija]

you didn't undertstand what I'm trying to say
SSC guys said that they are fastest but there is plenty of speed left in car, they said that if they had longer road/track they could go even faster, and then pagani refered to that by saying that ssc can go faster then it's current record, so if koenigsegg beats ssc some people will say that ssc can go faster, not faster then koenigsegg but their previous record, but nobody knows how much faster can it go. maybe(probably) it's only few mph

[pagani]

you didn't undertstand what I'm trying to say
SSC guys said that they are fastest but there is plenty of speed left in car, they said that if they had longer road/track they could go even faster, and then pagani refered to that by saying that ssc can go faster then it's current record, so if koenigsegg beats ssc some people will say that ssc can go faster, not faster then koenigsegg but their previous record, but nobody knows how much faster can it go. maybe(probably) it's only few mph
The body of the car is stable up to 273 mph(436 km/h)

[toffytofik]

Here's some info i maneged to find on the net:

And because of the short straightaway, S-bends, and uneven pavement from the public road, SSC says that there was a lot more pedal to push, leaving 6-10 mph for future purposes.

SSC will send an Ultimate Aero to Europe to test its true top speed on one of Germany's ultra-smooth test tracks, just like the Bugatti Veyron, Koenigsegg CCR, and McLaren F1.

The Ultimate Aero also broke Road and Track's slalom record, previously held by the Ferrari Enzo.So they claim it's somewhat 10 mph reserve. But why do they need to go in Germany to test it? Isn't there long enough test polygons in USA? At least they could've tested it at Bonneville (i know it's not the same as the ultra-smooth asphalt of Germany... anyways.)

weight has little to do with top speed, it's simple drag vs power thing, SSC has much better power to weight ratio but that resulted in just slightly better top speed.
You're right, kinda. But static weight does matter too, even if in less degree :P
Anyway, seems like both Veyron and SCC suffer from excess drag generated by the heap of radiators found on both these cars. Furthermore Veyron's got a relatively large frontal area which isn't good ~ lots of drag.

[pagani]

Here's some info i maneged to find on the net:

So they claim it's somewhat 10 mph reserve. But why do they need to go in Germany to test it? Isn't there long enough test polygons in USA? At least they could've tested it at Bonneville (i know it's not the same as the ultra-smooth asphalt of Germany... anyways.)


You're right, kinda. But static weight does matter too, even if in less degree :P
Anyway, seems like both Veyron and SCC suffer from excess drag generated by the heap of radiators found on both these cars. Furthermore Veyron's got a relatively large frontal area which isn't good ~ lots of drag.
You will need extra power to go faster because of the drag.
I wonder how much power the scc makes on e85 or race fuel or high pomp fuel like bp ulimate
:-):thumbup:

[HeilSvenska]

All we need is a guy who's insanely rich to buy all of the cars mentioned here, Saleen S7 TT 1000hp, Koenigsegg CCXR, Bugatti Veyron, and the SSC Aero TT then rent a stretch of road, hire an insanely brave man, and test the top speeds of these cars. Just once to end this argument once and for all.

[turpija]

All we need is a guy who's insanely rich to buy all of the cars mentioned here, Saleen S7 TT 1000hp, Koenigsegg CCXR, Bugatti Veyron, and the SSC Aero TT then rent a stretch of road, hire an insanely brave man, and test the top speeds of these cars. Just once to end this argument once and for all.

+1 :-D

[pagani]

+1 :-D
+2
:-P
That schould be cool

[pagani]

That would be the event of the century

[turpija]

well I don't know what happened but SSC announced that they will be going in Europe for high speed shootout in march or april last year, I guess the car wasn't ready.

[pagani]

well I don't know what happened but SSC announced that they will be going in Europe for high speed shootout in march or april last year, I guess the car wasn't ready.
They will try that again i think
Here is a recent pc wallpaper

https://www.shelbysupercars.com/wallpapers/march-1280x1024.jpg

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