The Nissan GTR - THE LEGEND IS REAL

[toffytofik]

Brand new promo video of the powerful Nissan GT-R from the Geneva Motorshow 2008.The Nissan GT-R - THE LEGEND IS REAL - YouTube
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Awesome vid, very creative! Worth the watch! :-)



And to spice it up, here's the other one: "Godzilla is back. Hits its First Strike!"

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Warning: this one is very EPIC! :mrgreen:


Enjoy!

[HeilSvenska]

Interesting visuals. Although if it were up to me, I'd just have my super GT hooning around to an Italian aria... or metal.

As for the second one, it's an unofficial one, but it's aiming at all Porsches? Even the 993? Isn't that sacrilegious?

[SnakeBitten]

Seen the last one last year. Funny as hell when I first saw it. Still puts a smile on my face.

[04RCSTI]

I cant even imagine how much work that first video took...wow.

[RC45]

This car has been hyped so much, that when the first series of recalls are done to address failing systems and broken parts - the financial blow to Nissan will be so devestating, they will wish they had saved the promo dollars to help pay for the warranty funds ;)

Not even Ferrari or Porsche have taken so much time to promote false engine outputs and tyre specs - this one is sadly going to never live up to the hype :twisted:

Add that to the rediculous markups being charged by dealers already, and you have the makings of a market white elephant not seen in decades.

Sad really, because this car could have been a hit without all this marketing crap - just let it stand on its merits, like say, the GT3 or Elise or even the NSX.

There will always be an asterisk next to any achievement of this Barry Bonds of the car world. ;)

[styla21]

Not even Ferrari or Porsche have taken so much time to promote false engine outputs and tyre specs - this one is sadly going to never live up to the hype :twisted:

Never in the history of the whole world, has there been an internet poster, so inflammatory as You. :-)

Arn't you finding difficult, being that there are so many 3rd party reports attesting to the GT-R's performance, to continue to criticise it? I was so anti- this car, but now it appears that Nissan have under stated the hp figures.. That's what I like to see. :thumbup:

(BTW, all vette's are rubbish. :-P)

[HeilSvenska]

(BTW, all vette's are rubbish. :-P)
Them's fighting words. Never in the history of the whole world, has been an internet poster, so wrong as you.

And if a manufacturer's going to claim performance figures, they should do it with the correct power ratings. Otherwise it's deceptive. I mean, according to that one power reading, the GT-R makes, what, 520hp? That's 40 more than claimed. That's wrong. It creates an illusion of it being so much better than it is. As for other manufacturers, they tend to have different power ratings due to the method, like the Z06 actually making like 507hp instead of 500hp. Now that's understandable, but 40hp more than claimed? That sounds bit more than an innocent mistake, if you get my drift. ;-)

[styla21]

Abolutely agree with you, that specified performance should be accurate. :-)
I would be majorly pissed off however, if my new sportscar came in under the benchmark by which I thought it met. I would have been cheated.
But, if said new sportscar actually performs better, I'm not sure it gives the same grounds to feel cheated!

I don't agree with you that it's wrong of Nissan to understate their performance however, or that it "creates an illusion of being so much better than it is". That's just not possible by under-stating your product! :-)

(And they were intended to be fighting words...:-) And was gross tongue in cheek comment. I mentioned in another post that if anyone knew of decent RHD conversion shops, that I would actually consider buying the new vette and importing it downunder! - Comment was directed toward RC for his well known Vette support.)

[HeilSvenska]

I don't agree with you that it's wrong of Nissan to understate their performance however, or that it "creates an illusion of being so much better than it is". That's just not possible by under-stating your product! :-)
That's ubsurd. What's the point of standardizing power ratings and specifications when a manufacturer's willing to flatout lie about its product? Is it too much for people to ask for truth about a company's products?! I don't understand your irrational desire to defend this car.

(And they were intended to be fighting words...:-) And was gross tongue in cheek comment. I mentioned in another post that if anyone knew of decent RHD conversion shops, that I would actually consider buying the new vette and importing it downunder!)
Then you shouldn't have said it.

[RC45]

I don't agree with you that it's wrong of Nissan to understate their performance however, or that it "creates an illusion of being so much better than it is". That's just not possible by under-stating your product! :-)

Well, in the beginning Nissan claimed certain lap times from stock tyres and 480bhp.

That's when many said "Not if the car weighs 4000lbs it won't". All we said was, either the 480bhp is bull, or the time is bullshit - and now the truth surfaces that there is indeed more power.

Thats fine, but dont build a bunch of hype based on "we only need this little power to move our weight"... just state the real facts and move on ;)

And the tyres - why Nissan and all these magazine reviewers just dont admit the GT-R comes with Michelin Sport Cup sticky tyres... again, simply state the facts and move on :)

After all, if the 997 C2 shipped with Sport Cups it would be twice the car.

So, if we put the GT-R into perspective and just keep it in context, then that would e ok - but the Jesus-mobile hype is getting a little much these days - ehehe

It's a great car, but very much dependent on all its special bits - I would like to have one that was 500lbs lighter ;)

[nthfinity]

I just think the car is ugly as sin, oversized, overhyped to the degree of the McLaren F1 ( which I "famously" loath for all the years of fanboy hype)

This is a populous car that is designed to stick it to the yanks in their home teritory---- the land of the Z06 performance bargain; and because it's supposed to hate on us Yanks; because of the fanboy love; because of the lack of journalistic integrity in performance tests.... all this and MORE is why I loath this car.

[nthfinity]

In every case.... I look forward to seeing how one copes with the Loop in Hell with 10 year old Ferrari's ;)

CARRY On, never mind me ;)

[styla21]

That's ubsurd. What's the point of standardizing power ratings and specifications when a manufacturer's willing to flatout lie about its product? Is it too much for people to ask for truth about a company's products?! I don't understand your irrational desire to defend this car.

Your mistaken.. I was one of the originators of the discussions, that questioned the validity over claimed lap times from Nissan. I questioned the weight, discussed the merit of slick / semi-slick tyres. I was not on the GT-R hype mobile, infact quite the opposite.

Notwithstanding, there is no gross injustice imparted by Nissan if the real power produced by their cars is indeed more than claimed power. If their car puts out 10% more power than originally claimed, you can't jump up and down and call them liars! They simply make decent engines??

I do not understand how you can feel cheated, or jaded if you were to get more than you were expecting and for what you paid for.

Then you shouldn't have said it.
Since when are you a post nazi? It was a tongue in cheek comment to another member, who I doubt took offence and realised the humour as intended, and is well aware of my desire to import the new Vette, as soon as the RHD issue is resolved! :)

[RC45]

I do not understand how you can feel cheated, or jaded if you were to get more than you were expecting and for what you paid for.

Well, the problem I would have, is if you bought a 480bhp GT-R and got 520, and I bought a 480bhp GT-R and only got 490bhp.

A standard should be a standard right?


Since when are you a post nazi? It was a tongue in cheek comment to another member, who I doubt took offence and realised the humour as intended, and is well aware of my desire to import one, if it is at all feasible.
No harm - No foul ;)

[justin101180]

The video is nice. but i'm not sure what they feature in it... the new GTR or the film projector:laugh: I think it's the projector... Because it has more detail shots than the car:laugh::laugh:

[styla21]

Well, the problem I would have, is if you bought a 480bhp GT-R and got 520, and I bought a 480bhp GT-R and only got 490bhp.
A standard should be a standard right?

Absolutely! You are dead right. :-)
To date, there is no inconsistencythough. There is a standard however of producing engines that are producing a marginally (+/-10%) higher output than specified on paper. Which means, that the car produces more power than stated, but not to the detriment of the consumer.

Hate on the car for all the other reasons; The tyres, the tests, the fact that every journalist on the planet is an uber-fanboy, its playstation roots, the bloated weight, the fact that some people believe it was produced purely to aggravate Americans.. But not at the fact the engine produces more power than specified!! :-) To do so, would be a grave misuse of backward thinking and logic.

[RC45]

But I dont believe every car is going to have this "abundance" of power - as there is no reason for it, the advertised power is 480bhp ;)

And the number being bandied about so far are almost 500awhp - that equates to closer to 600bhp than 500bhp.

All this is what puts a cloud on the car - but that doesnt change the fact I cant wait to meet one on the freeway ;)

Lets see how the PS3 controlled whale handles 3100lbs and no electronic aids at all :)

[HeilSvenska]

One thing I thought of was the US spec actually getting 480hp at the engine for some reason (EPA or something) but sharing the same glory as the 520hp version. That'd be disgusting. We'll see. ;-)

[79TA]

Abolutely agree with you, that specified performance should be accurate. :-)
I would be majorly pissed off however, if my new sportscar came in under the benchmark by which I thought it met. I would have been cheated.
But, if said new sportscar actually performs better, I'm not sure it gives the same grounds to feel cheated!

I don't agree with you that it's wrong of Nissan to understate their performance however, or that it "creates an illusion of being so much better than it is". That's just not possible by under-stating your product! :-)

(And they were intended to be fighting words...:-) And was gross tongue in cheek comment. I mentioned in another post that if anyone knew of decent RHD conversion shops, that I would actually consider buying the new vette and importing it downunder! - Comment was directed toward RC for his well known Vette support.)

Low horsepower figures our what the various Japanese automakers used to do. Nissan has found a new way to deceive people. By claiming it runs the times it does with only 480 horsepower, it implies that the electronic wizardy in the car is nothing short of miraculous, which is just what Nissan would like us to think. There's no techno-cred to just going fast with light weight and power; otherwise the Vette wouldn't be such a target. It should be plain that when the horsepower figure is off by more than 8%, deception has occurred. I'm sure the Nissan powertrain engineers aren't so lousy that they can't get a decent estimate.

The last gen Viper was also, technically underrated. I believe that it would have been allowed to advertise a few more hp under the modern SAE standards. However, a 1% change hardly compares to that of more than 8%.

[ferrarif1fan89]

Wow, I got to reading a quarter of the way down, spotted the usual crap about porsche v nissan v vette and just exited out.

[styla21]

Toffytofik, the first video is fantastic!! Very creative.. Thankyou for posting. :-)

[toffytofik]

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Glad that at least someone enjoyed it! 8)
I'm also glad the GTR lives up to it's heritage and finally debuted on the world arena!

From the PGC/KPGC10 back in the 1969 - 1972...

http://www.jbskyline.net/C10/GTR/Showroom/Bilder/KPGC10%20front%20left.gif


Up to the R35 as we know it today!

http://www.evo.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_466/car_photo_233481_25.jpg


2009 will be the 40 anniversary year for the GTR badge! :-)

The legend is alive!

[RC45]

Wow, I got to reading a quarter of the way down, spotted the usual crap about porsche v nissan v vette and just exited out.

Good - because that meant you had zero to contribute to the discussion... because if you would have bothered reading you would have seen you were the first person to mention anything about vs Vettes. :)

[nthfinity]

Good - because that meant you had zero to contribute to the discussion... because if you would have bothered reading you would have seen you were the first person to mention anything about vs Vettes. :)

I digress, I posted the letters Z followed by 0 and a 6 after that.

[RC45]

I digress, I posted the letters Z followed by 0 and a 6 after that.

But it was not as vs Z06 ;)