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Apac102
01-24-2004, 06:26 PM
Personally, I think it would be cool to see Audi and Porsche in the F1. I think would spice it up between car companies. what do you guys think?

FerrariKiller
01-24-2004, 07:18 PM
How about Cadillac or Bently should step up to F!. I would prefer Cadillac because GM might as well grab a piece of the F1 pie. They can afford it.

Apac102
01-24-2004, 10:39 PM
I never thought about GM. Because we have the Indianapolis course, it would be nice to have an American team too.

kian
01-25-2004, 12:59 AM
more japanese teams ........ nissan ... mitsubishi ...

zevolv
01-25-2004, 01:06 AM
Well the only American company left is GM technicaly. Ford has Jaguar and Daimler/Chrysler has Mercedes Benz so that would be a place to start. Something from the VW/Audi group would be interesting (That includes Porsche, Bentley, Rolls Royce, Lamborghini).

deth
01-25-2004, 01:15 AM
Well the only American company left is GM technicaly. Ford has Jaguar and Daimler/Chrysler has Mercedes Benz so that would be a place to start. Something from the VW/Audi group would be interesting (That includes Porsche, Bentley, Rolls Royce, Lamborghini).

porsche is an individual company, if you dont believe me ask st-anger, and rolls is owned by bmw.

alondahan
01-25-2004, 04:39 AM
Lotus!

COFair
01-25-2004, 10:32 AM
aston martin

SFDMALEX
01-25-2004, 10:45 AM
LOTUS.

....just saw alondahan say lotus also. :D


Lotus with help of Ford. Ford supplying a power plant.

yg60m
01-25-2004, 11:02 AM
Ford is already involved in F1 either through Jaguar and Minardi (they provide the engine). I don't think the "good old time" could be back ... :(
The major car companies missing in F1 are VW and GM.

Fleischmann
01-25-2004, 11:17 AM
aston martin

Aston Martin hasn't got the money to build a car suiting the category, nor to enter such competitions.

But I'd like to see the Maserati and the Porsche on the circuit, both companys have the potential and "knowledge" to compete in F1 races.

kian
01-25-2004, 12:05 PM
lotus is now own by malaysian proton ....which means it wont touch the F1 for as long as it stays under proton or maybe 20yrs later ...LOL

yg60m
01-25-2004, 12:33 PM
Aston Martin hasn't got the money to build a car suiting the category, nor to enter such competitions.

But I'd like to see the Maserati and the Porsche on the circuit, both companys have the potential and "knowledge" to compete in F1 races

Aston Martin is Ford property so they could made Aston race in F1 as well as Jaguar, it's just a question of marketing.
Maserati is Ferrari property so i don't see them racing in F1 as long as Ferrari is ...
For Porsche, of course it would be great but their last try (a V12 provide to Footwork in 1989 or 1990 ) was a disaster, it request too much money. :(

he7lius
01-25-2004, 02:32 PM
I know Lamborghini is owned by Audi but that would be interesting.
Porsches have to enter F1, because it is hard to see a good supercar maker and with great experience not to be at the Top of the Racing competitions.

stracing
01-25-2004, 05:44 PM
i think no matter how much you plead with porsche, they won't enter it. it costs exorbitant amounts of money to set up a team

dylan99
01-25-2004, 10:38 PM
Porsche and maybe Audi/Lamborghini

scubywrxr
01-26-2004, 02:31 PM
bentley would be nice 2 c :D

callen
01-26-2004, 02:36 PM
Lambo should enter a car. audi has bought the company in hopes of a resurgance. i think this would be just the thing audi needs not only for their cars but lambos as well. they could maybe one day be compared directly to ferrari :mrgreen:

graywolf624
01-26-2004, 02:37 PM
Considering lambo has never had factory race cars I wouldn't hold your breath.

MaffMaff
01-27-2004, 09:23 AM
Porsche tryed it back when and i dont think F1 is their thing.

Surely it would! They love to make cars with the engine at the back! :) :wink:

Matt

levensnevel
02-06-2004, 04:29 PM
Interesting view taken by Sir Jackie Stewart
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=motorsportsnews&loc_code=index&content_code=06220189

CarbonFibre
02-07-2004, 07:03 PM
I think it would be great to have VAG in one form or another competing in F1. Porsche can't afford it. Maybe we'll see Audis there eventually, but I don't think they or Porsche are interested in this kind of racing because the F1 cars share would share little to absolutely nothing with their roadgoing cars. Porsche does a fine job with its GT3 cars that race all over the world. Audi is already heavily involved in the SCCA Speed world Challenge as well at getting back into DTM with works cars.

FerrariKiller
02-07-2004, 10:48 PM
I mentioned GM earlier and I just saw an article from autoweek in which Jackie Stewarts says:

“I think it’s crazy for GM not to be in motorsports. I mean, crazy!” The company, he suggests, has too domestic a mind-set for a global player. “If you’re a Cadillac, forget a sports car, forget a GT car, if you’re going to race with the boys, you’ve got to get into the top end of it. The amount of money that it would take to do the job, they could build an engine and have an alliance with another operation.”

Check out the whole article
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=motorsportsnews&loc_code=index&content_code=06220189

FerrariKiller
02-08-2004, 01:48 AM
I mentioned GM earlier and I just saw an article from autoweek in which Jackie Stewarts says:

“I think it’s crazy for GM not to be in motorsports. I mean, crazy!” The company, he suggests, has too domestic a mind-set for a global player. “If you’re a Cadillac, forget a sports car, forget a GT car, if you’re going to race with the boys, you’ve got to get into the top end of it. The amount of money that it would take to do the job, they could build an engine and have an alliance with another operation.”

Check out the whole article
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=motorsportsnews&loc_code=index&content_code=06220189

SFDMALEX
02-08-2004, 10:42 AM
Lambo already tried to race in F1 without any success. And if you ask me I dont think they have the "know how" for F1.

SFDMALEX
02-08-2004, 10:47 AM
Considering lambo has never had factory race cars I wouldn't hold your breath.

I'm pretty sure Lambos 1991 entry was a factory effort in a Lamborghini 291.
http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/Formula1/Lamborghini/LamboMuseumb.jpg

SFDMALEX
02-08-2004, 10:54 AM
Interesting view taken by Sir Jackie Stewart
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=motorsportsnews&loc_code=index&content_code=06220189

Thanks Levensnevel I enjoyd reading that one.

grunthos
02-09-2004, 02:50 PM
Hey that was a fun article levensnevel
- thanx

tekwar
02-09-2004, 03:08 PM
Would like to see nissan, lambo, porsche, and even a comback from lotus would be good to see, but unlikely that any of these companies would go to F1.

How bout some more american car makers, that should spice it up for the people there.

CarbonFibre
02-09-2004, 09:37 PM
If GM didn't want to spend the money to compete in Le Mans, they aren't going to dive into F1. After Audi's dominance in Le Mans, Cadillac pulled out and said that it was obvious that direct injection engine technology would have to be developed in order to compete, and they weren't willing to spend the money.

NYCHonda
02-10-2004, 03:34 AM
As crazy as it may sound, I would like to see an unexpected auto manufacturer like Hyundai, Kia, Ssanyong, Daewoo, or even Daihatsu to be involve in an F1.

NYCHonda
02-10-2004, 03:34 AM
As crazy as it may sound, I would like to see an unexpected auto manufacturer like Hyundai, Kia, Ssanyong, Daewoo, or even Daihatsu to be involve in an F1.

ae86_16v
02-16-2004, 01:16 AM
If GM didn't want to spend the money to compete in Le Mans, they aren't going to dive into F1. After Audi's dominance in Le Mans, Cadillac pulled out and said that it was obvious that direct injection engine technology would have to be developed in order to compete, and they weren't willing to spend the money.

Yeah, GM would probably stay out of it. Keep in mind though the Corvette still competes in ALMS.

I personally would like to see Lotus or Porsche, but then again, I doubt entire company would have enough money to really compete in F1 without a major sponsor/contributor. Then again, people said the same thing about Ferraris in the 90s.

Another question to ask is that there are 10 teams (20 cars) right now in F1. Would FIA allow another team? Has there been a 22+ car field before? I remember a few years ago they had Arrows and Prost. . .

mihai1235
02-16-2004, 01:38 AM
It would be nice to see Audi entering F1, and the CEO of Audi declared that if things are going well for Audi as a sports brand, they might enter Formula 1. Maserati cannot enter F1, because Ferrari is already there, but a co-operation between Audi and Maserati would look good.

The359
02-16-2004, 01:51 AM
Whoever mentioned Aston Martin, they were already in Formula 1. They ran in 1959 with the DBR4 which had its best finish of 2nd at Silverstone and broke a lap record in the same race. In 1960 they ran the DBR5 but only ran it in two races before they decided to cancel the Formula 1 attempt.

The cars were both front-engined and destined to failure from the start when the rear-engine cars hit the scene.

The359
02-16-2004, 01:52 AM
Another question to ask is that there are 10 teams (20 cars) right now in F1. Would FIA allow another team? Has there been a 22+ car field before? I remember a few years ago they had Arrows and Prost. . .

There is no maximum limit on cars in Formula 1, merely a minimum limit. There must be at least 20 cars on the field, hence why they do not want to lost another team, or else some top teams will have to start fielding 3 cars per race.

There have been seasons with upwards of 30 to 40 cars.

ae86_16v
02-16-2004, 06:32 AM
Another question to ask is that there are 10 teams (20 cars) right now in F1. Would FIA allow another team? Has there been a 22+ car field before? I remember a few years ago they had Arrows and Prost. . .

There is no maximum limit on cars in Formula 1, merely a minimum limit. There must be at least 20 cars on the field, hence why they do not want to lost another team, or else some top teams will have to start fielding 3 cars per race.

There have been seasons with upwards of 30 to 40 cars.

Oh thanks, yeah, I've heard about the 3 cars thing. . . It is just so expensive now to keep manufacturers in F1.

Damn, 30 to 40 cars?!?! That is almost getting to be like NASCAR or something. . .

levensnevel
02-16-2004, 09:17 AM
Well,

may be, may be :idea:
http://www.f1central.net/news/1076928366.html?PHPSESSID=6197a5da2a5768ca5be8b065 e190f72d
Let's keep our fingers crossed

ae86_16v
02-17-2004, 08:23 AM
Well,

may be, may be :idea:
http://www.f1central.net/news/1076928366.html?PHPSESSID=6197a5da2a5768ca5be8b065 e190f72d
Let's keep our fingers crossed

Yeah that would be nice. . . but people gotta keep in mind that Teams almost never win going right into it. But Americans are results driven and they demand wins right away.

In F1, you should be happy if you achieve wins within the first five years.

Just look at Toyota and Jaguar.

It would be nice if they stuck with it for a while. . . (The American Team that is).

levensnevel
02-17-2004, 09:27 AM
ae86_16V

you tend to forget that Jaguar is a continuation of Stewart Racing.
Stewart Racing, aA team what started form 'scratch ' and managed a podium finish in their first year. So it has been done in recent history :fadein:

S0300182
02-17-2004, 01:10 PM
Bentley coz they ruled LeMans or lamborghini be coz well just coz they dont take part in many racing events apart from 1, and hopefully there gonna take part in lemans with their Murcielago R-gt

sads
02-21-2004, 03:38 AM
lotus please come back + id like 2 c audi porsche nissan vw and anyone who can afford it