*** 2007 Chinese GP ***

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Round 16 of the 2007 Formula 1 Season!
Practice 1 Times:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9508/practice1hq3.jpg

[saadie]

i was just about to post this ... you beat me by a minute :lol: ..
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4770/prac1cx3.gif

Raikkonen is doing great! 8)

hamilton should be penalised .. .and should be sent back the grid .. not just 10 places :| ...

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^ I hope Hamilton is stripped of the 10 points from Japan. Imagine how much more exciting the championship would be!

[saadie]

^^ that would be even better ..
hes too immature to be a world champion anyway :roll:

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Practice 2 Times:
01 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:36.607 31 laps
02 F. Alonso McLaren 1:36.613 28 laps
03 F. Massa Ferrari 1:36.630 29 laps
04 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:36.876 33 laps
05 J. Trulli Toyota 1:37.151 36 laps
06 M. Webber Red Bull 1:37.450 34 laps
07 R. Schumacher Toyota 1:37.524 32 laps
08 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:37.617 27 laps
09 N. Rosberg Williams 1:37.646 36 laps
10 G. Fisichella Renault 1:37.970 32 laps
11 H. Kovalainen Renault 1:38.062 21 laps
12 J. Button Honda 1:38.205 41 laps
13 R. Barrichello Honda 1:38.304 40 laps
14 R. Kubica BMW 1:38.379 39 laps
15 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:38.388 16 laps
16 A. Wurz Williams 1:38.531 32 laps
17 A. Davidson Super Aguri 1:38.975 38 laps
18 V. Liuzzi Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:39.062 36 laps
19 A. Sutil Spyker F1 1:39.224 37 laps
20 T. Sato Super Aguri 1:39.360 37 laps
21 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:39.404 34 laps
22 S. Yamamoto Spyker F1 1:40.051 38 laps

A last-gasp effort from Kimi Raikkonen saw him top the timesheets at the end of Friday's practice for the Chinese GP.

Despite trailing both the McLarens and his team-mate for most of the session, Raikkonen put in a flying lap in the dying seconds of Practice Two that saw take the lead.

The Finn, who is still in the hunt for this year's World title although only marginally, posted a 1:36.607 around the 5.400 km-long track to steal P1 from Fernando Alonso by the smallest of margins: 0.006s.

Third place went to Felipe Massa, who finished a further 0.017s back, in what was one of the closest-fought practice sessions of the season.

Championship leader Lewis Hamilton set the fourth best time but found himself almost a quarter of a second slower than his title rivals.

It was a good afternoon for Toyota and Red Bull, who completed the top eight with Jarno Trulli leading Mark Webber, Ralf Schumacher and David Coulthard.

There were a couple of spinners during the session with Massa going off at Turn Three, Trulli at Turn Nine and Alex Wurz and Hamilton both at Turn One.

Jenson Button, Coulthard, Adrian Sutil and Sakon Yamamoto also had a few wary moments as they fought to stay on the track.

Meanwhile Nick Heidfeld's problematic start to the weekend continued when he stopped out on track, just as he had done in Practice One.

12 minutes into the session the German pulled off the main circuit and into a back road into the pit-lane. Although his car was quickly returned to the BMW garage, Heidfeld only managed to get back out for the final twenty minutes of the session. He finished P14.

Heikki Kovalainen was another driver to experience problems as he came to a halt out on track halfway through practice. He ended the session 12th on the timesheets.

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The FIA have confirmed that Lewis Hamilton will not be punished for allegedly driving erratically behind the Safety Car during last week's Japanese GP.

In a statement, stewards declared that conditions were so bad that it would be 'inappropriate' to punish any of the drivers involved in the crash between Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel.

As a result, not only has Hamilton avoided an penalty, but Vettel will not have to serve the ten grid-slot penalty imposed by stewards at Fuji for this weekend's Chinese GP. The youngster has instead received a 'reprimand'.

Vettel's team Toro Rosso had requested that the matter be re-examined due to the appearance of new footage after the German was penalised 10 places on the starting grid for this Sunday's Chinese Grand Prix .

The new video, which was filmed by a fan in the grandstand at the Fuji Speedway and appeared on YouTube, appeared to show the McLaren driver pulling over to the right-hand side of the track and braking sharply, causing Webber to also slow unexpectedly and catch Vettel off guard, causing him to drive into the back of the Australian.

The stewards decision came after a meeting involving Hamilton, Webber and Vettel, plus representatives of McLaren, Red Bull and Toro Rosso.

A statement read: "The stewards have received a request form Scuderia Toro Rosso by way of letter dated October 4, 2007 to re-open matters relating to the race in Japan with particular reference to the penalty imposed on their driver Sebastian Vettel.

"The letter refers to footage said to have been recorded by a spectator. It is the steward's understanding that it appeared on an internet website. The footage shows exactly the same incident as that which was viewed by the stewards late on the evening of the race, albeit from a different angle.

"Having heard the explanation of all concerned and viewed both the original film of the incident which was available to stewards at Fuji as well as the new film (which in reality adds little if anything to the original film), what has become apparent is the view clearly expressed by all drivers and team managers alike that the conditions at Fuji were exceptionally bad and worse than those experienced when the race starts behind the safety car.

"Because of those views, the stewards accept that it may be inappropriate to impose the penalty normally applied for an offence such as this.

"In the circumstances the stewards will reduce the penalty imposed on Vettel to a reprimand.

"The involvement of Lewis Hamilton in this incident has also been considered in the light of evidence given by him, his team manager and in particular all other parties present and no penalty is imposed upon him."

The decision will be warmly welcomed by Hamilton, who had earlier expressed his growing disillusionment with Formula One in light of possible sanctions including a 10-place penalty on the starting grid or even being stripped of the 10 world championship points he earned for his stunning victory in Japan.

"It's just a shame for the sport and if this is the way it's going to keep going then it's probably not somewhere I really want to be," he said.

"Formula One is supposed to be about hard competition, fair and that's what I've tried to do this year, just be fair.

"If I've been in the wrong, I've been the first to put my hand up, or apologise at least, and I don't mind being given a penalty but there's been some real strange situations this year where I'm made to look the bad person or by the looks of it this weekend could be given a penalty.

"I had a good weekend, I don't think I put a foot wrong and I didn't do anything to harm anyone else or put anyone else in danger but I've come away to China and no doubt I'm going to be punished for something.

"I just think it's a real shame for the sport."

Hamilton holds a 12-point lead over closest challenger Fernando Alonso and will become the first rookie to win the world championship if he drops no more than one point to his McLaren team-mate in Shanghai.

But the 22-year-old was only fourth quickest in both of Friday's practice sessions while the Spaniard finished second behind Ferrari driver Kimi Raikkonen in each of the 90-minute sessions. :bad:

Typhoon may threaten Qualifying session and race day:
Just days after the washout at Fuji Speedway, F1 is bracing for yet another dreadful bout of Asian weather ahead of the Chinese Grand Prix.

Shanghai stayed dry albeit humid for the opening day of action on Friday, but most weather predictions agree that the skies are likely to turn black just in time for qualifying on Saturday afternoon.

That, however, may not be the worst of it. Drivers up and down pitlane called last Sunday's Japanese Grand Prix the most treacherous in their entire careers, but a potentially enormous storm is brewing on the Shanghai horizon.

One top team's forecast, we have learned, is that a strong category-four typhoon currently ravaging Taiwan could have moved on to Shanghai by race-day.


Indeed, local reports verified that typhoon Krosa is expected to hit the Chinese coastal city of Wenzhou, south of Shanghai, on Sunday morning.

In 2004, qualifying at Suzuka for the Japanese Grand Prix was called off when a powerful typhoon struck nearby.

[gangajas]

Hamilton crying again :roll: :roll:

I had a good weekend, I don't think I put a foot wrong and I didn't do anything to harm anyone else or put anyone else in danger but I've come away to China and no doubt I'm going to be punished for something," Hamilton said. "I just think it's a real shame for the sport.

"Formula One is supposed to be about hard competition - fair - and that's what I've tried to do this year, just be fair.

"If I've been in the wrong, I've been the first to put my hand up, or apologise at least, and I don't mind being given a penalty but there's been some really strange situations this year where I'm made to look the bad person or by the looks of it this weekend could be given a penalty.

"It's just a shame for the sport and if this is the way it's going to keep going then it's probably not somewhere I really want to be.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article2595645.ece

[Svensson]

Hamilton crying again :roll: :roll:

I had a good weekend, I don't think I put a foot wrong and I didn't do anything to harm anyone else or put anyone else in danger but I've come away to China and no doubt I'm going to be punished for something," Hamilton said. "I just think it's a real shame for the sport.

"Formula One is supposed to be about hard competition - fair - and that's what I've tried to do this year, just be fair.

"If I've been in the wrong, I've been the first to put my hand up, or apologise at least, and I don't mind being given a penalty but there's been some really strange situations this year where I'm made to look the bad person or by the looks of it this weekend could be given a penalty.

"It's just a shame for the sport and if this is the way it's going to keep going then it's probably not somewhere I really want to be.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article2595645.ece
LoL, you really grab every opportunity to complaining about Hamilton...
Face it, he's kicking Alstronzo's ass, who by the way, is the real cry-baby :P

[Bizi Jones]

nah...Al0nso seems to have quited down...cause I think he knows its over...or at least he's not comparing himself to Senna/Prost or asking through the media that he keeps his (not yet won) 1st championship... :roll:

[acmarttin]

that Spanish foo can't badmouth his future bosses :lol:

[gangajas]

Hamilton crying again :roll: :roll:

I had a good weekend, I don't think I put a foot wrong and I didn't do anything to harm anyone else or put anyone else in danger but I've come away to China and no doubt I'm going to be punished for something," Hamilton said. "I just think it's a real shame for the sport.

"Formula One is supposed to be about hard competition - fair - and that's what I've tried to do this year, just be fair.

"If I've been in the wrong, I've been the first to put my hand up, or apologise at least, and I don't mind being given a penalty but there's been some really strange situations this year where I'm made to look the bad person or by the looks of it this weekend could be given a penalty.

"It's just a shame for the sport and if this is the way it's going to keep going then it's probably not somewhere I really want to be.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article2595645.ece
LoL, you really grab every opportunity to complaining about Hamilton...
Face it, he's kicking Alstronzo's ass, who by the way, is the real cry-baby :P

I'm not a fanboy of any driver so I think that I have the same right to post links about Alonso than to post links about Hamilton. If you don't like what you read is not my problem.



Q. In light of the talk surrounding the possibility of Hamilton being instructed to face the stewards regarding last week's Japanese GP, how do you feel? You could get your first win!

Heikki KovalainenHeikki Kovalainen: That would be nice! But honestly, I don't know what they are going to do. I haven't got any more to say about the situation; I don't want to get involved too much.

Obviously it looks like he has done something that was, I think, not acceptable. Webber has been quite outspoken about it, and all I have to say is that when I was behind Hamilton, he was also doing a little bit of accelerating and slowing down, and that moment I didn't inform my team about anything because I didn't think it was anything too dangerous, and I was able to cope with it.

But of course, you know, if I get the victory ... in Formula One, you don't get any style points. If they decide to throw him out, it's fantastic for me!

Q. Would you prefer your first win like this, or on the track with champagne?

HK: Oh, it would be better with the champagne. But if we win the race because of this case, then there is going to be champagne anyway! Like I said, there are no style points on how you win,

But it's not up to me to decide. The FIA will make a decision, and whatever the decision is, we will take it. We will move on and just focus on racing. There has been a lot of politics lately.

Q. Did you see the video of Hamilton?

HK: Yeah, I saw the video.

Q. How did it look to you?

HK: Well, to me it looks like Lewis was slowing down a lot. First he was quite close to the safety car and then he slowed down, and then Webber went to the inside at turn 14, and he had to slow obviously not to pass Lewis. And I think Vettel reacted too late - or didn't react at all - to Mark, and he hit Mark.

It is obvious that Lewis slows down a lot and then accelerates. This is what we talked about in Fuji at the drivers' briefing; it was the main talking point - that you can do a little bit of tyre-warming, but you don't do it too much.

You can come up a little bit behind the safety car, but you cannot do this [demonstrating with hands] because the problem is that it is like a chain reaction. One slows down at the front, and the second and third cannot react.

We all agreed that when the safety car lights go away, we should keep a constant pace. Whether it is slower or faster, we keep constant. And it looks like Lewis didn't keep constant pace. But that's all I have seen.

Q. Do you think that will be the main issue in the drivers' briefing in China?

HK: Probably. There was already a lot of talk about it in Fuji, and this happened straight after we talked about it. So I am sure there will be a lot of heated conversation. But I'll stay out of it! I'm going to focus on the race.

Q. How about if it is wet again on Sunday?

HK: Any weather for me is fine. Today the competitiveness didn't look fantastic, but I think there is more to come from our team, even in the dry. If it starts to rain then it's all open again. You never know what's going to happen. Any rain in these countries ... you might get a big shower and it might really change the situation. Honestly, for me, the weather is fine.

Q. Just back to Fuji for one moment, there were reports that you were asked by the team to not attack Lewis late in the race, and to hold station in second place. Can you clarify that?

HK: Yeah, that was not actually what the team told me. What I meant to say was, not to go too close to Hamilton and not to be alongside him behind the safety car. Nobody told me that I am not allowed to overtake. Of course I am allowed to overtake.

But the reason I stayed on that side of Lewis behind the safety car was because he was doing a little bit of this [makes speeding up and slowing down movements with hands], so I felt safer on the other side of him.

Sometimes I was on the left hand side, sometimes I was on the right hand side, because he was doing a little bit of moving around and I wanted to avoid hitting him. Even in a straight line it was difficult to see where he was going, so I stayed on the side just in case.

Q. I understand that the FIA instructed your team to tell you not to get too close to Lewis. Why wouldn't the FIA simply inform Lewis to keep a five-car gap between himself and the safety car, as per the rules?

HK: Honestly, you would need to ask Charlie [Whiting] from the FIA. I don't know why. I was surprised to hear from my team that I had a warning from the FIA to not get too close to Lewis. I was surprised, because I didn't feel I was causing any danger to anyone.

Of course when the restart is about to happen I am going to be there every time because I want to try to make a move as soon as I can, and I was trying to be as close as possible to him. But I don't know why no one said anything to Lewis.

Q. Is that strange, or is it normal under the safety car?

HK: I don't want to say anything about that. Honestly, it's not my business. All I heard was that my team was telling me to take it easy with him.

Q. Can the FIA track Hamilton's behaviour by telemetry?

HK: It's never easy, but they should be able to see quite clearly what he did. I guess they have been going through it a lot. For me, I'm not going to make the decision, so it's going to be difficult to say. But like I said, whatever decision they make, I hope they make and I hope we learn from this. If I get the win, great. If I don't it's still OK. We just have to move on after this.

Q. Do you think that the storm that is brewing against Lewis after Fuji is because of what he did, or because of the situation in the closing part of the championship?

HK: It's also a difficult question for me to answer. I have not been getting involved with the whole thing too much. My team is handling the situation in how they feel is the right way to do it, and I don't know about the reaction from the other teams. That's all I can say.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63033%5B/i%5D

[saadie]

"It's just a shame for the sport and if this is the way it's going to keep going then it's probably not somewhere I really want to be," he said.

"Formula One is supposed to be about hard competition, fair and that's what I've tried to do this year, just be fair.


GTFO then :roll: all this race experience that hehas , he dosnt know how to behave behind the saftey car :roll: ...

[yellky]

^ I hope Hamilton is stripped of the 10 points from Japan
FIAmilton?
not a chance :/

[yellky]

Imagine how much more exciting the championship would be!
oh just remembered that:
YouTube

now that was exciting end of the season!
was it one fukin' point..?
(yeah, i was keepin' my fingers crossed for Hill and pretty much hate Schu since back then :? )

[saadie]

yep ... 1 point

i'd expect alonso to barge into hamilton then any other driver .... ''
there is no specific rivalry this year .. such as hill-schu or Jv-schu ...

[novass]

^ I hope Hamilton is stripped of the 10 points from Japan
FIAmilton?
not a chance :/

Whether what Hammy did was right or wrong, I don't like the idea that the FIA would reconsider the race results days after it ended. Where would it end?

[saadie]

well .. it takes more then a day to see what happened, the videos and the redorded data and eveything. it is not really possible to do all the same day of the event ..

but yeah, i am with you ... the decissions should be taken at the latest before the podium ceremony

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Practice 3:
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7238/practice3vu5.jpg

It was extremely close between the top 4 drivers throughout all 3 practice sessions. I was expecting Ferrari to have a clear advantage in this track. The qualifying session (in 2 hrs.) and the race should be exciting!!!

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Massa seems abit off, different strategy?..hmm

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Why Lewis Hamilton will win this year's world championship:
Bernie Ecclestone says Lewis Hamilton will make a better world champion than his McLaren team-mate Fernando Alonso.

F1's Chief Executive, at the scene of the Chinese Grand Prix, where his 22-year-old countryman could secure the title near the end of his rookie season, said Alonso has “done nothing” for the sport since winning back to back titles in 2005 and 2006.

Kimi Raikkonen, Ecclestone added, “barely talks to anyone."

"It is painfully obvious to me that the right guy to be world champion is Lewis," Ecclestone said. "In fact my main fear would be if he didn't win it.

"If Lewis wins the drivers' championship he will act like a real world champion. He will know exactly what is expected of him and what he has to do."

Ecclestone hails Hamilton as a ‘miracle worker’ following the dramatic retirement of seven time world champion Michael Schumacher.

"But for him I'm not sure where the sport would be heading," he said.

:bad: :bad: :bad:

[Bizi Jones]

so what he's saying in essence is that F1 champions will now be scripted...Take a McLaren F1 add a splash of Ferrari...ban anything that doesn't fit into the script, mix for 17 races...what do u get...the new Golden Boy :roll:

[CMonakar]

Why Lewis Hamilton will win this year's world championship:
[quote]F1's Lance Bass has “done nothing” for the sport since winning back to back titles in 2005 and 2006.

Kimi Raikkonen, Ecclestone added, “barely talks to anyone."

I'm sure Kimi appreciated that one lol!

[saadie]

Why Lewis Hamilton will win this year's world championship:
Bernie Ecclestone says Lewis Hamilton will make a better world champion than his McLaren team-mate dancing queen F1's Lance Bass.

F1's Chief Executive, at the scene of the Chinese Grand Prix, where his 22-year-old countryman could secure the title near the end of his rookie season, said F1's Lance Bass has “done nothing” for the sport since winning back to back titles in 2005 and 2006.

Kimi Raikkonen, Ecclestone added, “barely talks to anyone."

"It is painfully obvious to me that the right guy to be world champion is Lewis," Ecclestone said. "In fact my main fear would be if he didn't win it.

"If Lewis wins the drivers' championship he will act like a real world champion. He will know exactly what is expected of him and what he has to do."

Ecclestone hails Hamilton as a ‘miracle worker’ following the dramatic retirement of seven time world champion Michael Schumacher.

"But for him I'm not sure where the sport would be heading," he said.

:bad: :bad: :bad:
typical british act by Ecclestone :roll:

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At the end of the day, F1 is still a business in his eyes.

[regele]

Bernie Ecclestone says Lewis Hamilton will make a better world champion than his McLaren team-mate dancing queen F1's Lance Bass.

F1's Chief Executive, at the scene of the Chinese Grand Prix, where his 22-year-old countryman could secure the title near the end of his rookie season, said F1's Lance Bass has “done nothing” for the sport since winning back to back titles in 2005 and 2006.

Kimi Raikkonen, Ecclestone added, “barely talks to anyone."

"It is painfully obvious to me that the right guy to be world champion is Lewis," Ecclestone said. "In fact my main fear would be if he didn't win it.

"If Lewis wins the drivers' championship he will act like a real world champion. He will know exactly what is expected of him and what he has to do."

Ecclestone hails Hamilton as a ‘miracle worker’ following the dramatic retirement of seven time world champion Michael Schumacher.

"But for him I'm not sure where the sport would be heading," he said.
That's gay :bad:

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Raikkonen may have dominated all 3 practice sessions and both Q1 and Q2 but Hamilton grabs pole position! NO!

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7349/qualifyingvy5.jpg

[acmarttin]

Well. There isn't a God.

Kimi hardly talks to anyone because he knows it's better to keep his f'n mouth shut!

[gangajas]

Wow, Mr. Nice Guy is now becoming aggressive against some journalists. He's more arrogant every day:

Q. (Heikki Kulta – Turun Sanomat) Lewis, do you hope that the storm comes and the race will be cancelled?

LH: No. Do you know what? I'm really surprised that you've asked me a question because all season you've not asked me one question. Whenever you get the microphone I know the question's going to Kimi. No, I think no, I just want to race. I'm going into tomorrow not thinking hey, this is the championship.

[saadie]

like i said .. hes too immature to be a champ ... :roll:

[pagani]

All current f1 drivers are asses
:lol: :lol:

[yellky]

i just wonder when goldenboy's father will have to disappear from the pits.. :lol:
come on dad, you cant be there every race, it makes me feel like a little kid.. other guys have girlfriends and wives.... please dad wait at home..
:wink: :wink:

[bmagni]

Wow, Mr. Nice Guy is now becoming aggressive against some journalists. He's more arrogant every day:

Q. (Heikki Kulta – Turun Sanomat) Lewis, do you hope that the storm comes and the race will be cancelled?

LH: No. Do you know what? I'm really surprised that you've asked me a question because all season you've not asked me one question. Whenever you get the microphone I know the question's going to Kimi. No, I think no, I just want to race. I'm going into tomorrow not thinking hey, this is the championship.

no need to post EVERYTHING bad he says. Or at least talk about someone else or somehting

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Vettel penalized:
After being handed a ten position penalty for crashing into the back of Mark Webber in Japan last Sunday and then having the penalty rescinded this weekend, Sebastian Vettel has been handed another penalty ahead of Sunday’s Chinese Grand Prix, this time for allegedly blocking a rival.

Vettel recorded the eighth fastest time in the first round of qualifying this afternoon and then went on to qualify 12th for the 56-lap event. However it emerged this evening that the rookie racer will now start 17th after being handed a five position demotion AFP France report.

Tonio Liuzzi and Vettel therefore now line-up 11th and 17th respectively for the penultimate race of the season.

Al0nso is very disappointed:
Fernando Alonso on Saturday afternoon seemed to uncork a wave of intense frustration as he spoke to journalists from his native Spain.

After oddly qualifying six-tenths behind McLaren team-mate and title leader Lewis Hamilton in Shanghai, the reigning world champion did not try hard to hide his suspicion that the Woking based team had deliberately slowed down his single seater.

"I am really interested to know where I have lost this time, because I do not think I have lost six-tenths in the other 100 laps that I have done this weekend," he said, according to the news agency EFE.

Alonso answered 'no' when specifically asked if he suspects McLaren of sabotage, but he also said he has 'no idea' if he has been weighed down with much more fuel than pole-sitter Hamilton.

He was rebuked on Friday by team boss Ron Dennis for saying he would 'not answer' a question about whether he expects equal treatment at the penultimate race of 2007.

Alonso added after qualifying: "I don't know. I am not going to make a comment about this after each session.

"If I was three or four thousandths behind, it doesn't mean anything - it could be small differences in fuel levels or small details such as that.

"But six or seven tenths... I can't remember any time that I was so far behind anybody. That was the strange thing about (today).

"If you have not had a good weekend, you say 'okay, I did not get comfortable with the car, with this corner'... but I have been fast all weekend, also in qualifying one and two.

"To be so far behind in qualifying three - I am the most surprised of all."

Alonso was asked how much optimism he will now carry to Sunday's grid.

"None. Very little. You are fourth, you have to recover so many points, hope for the rain, hope for the others to have problems and you have the luck to finish," he said.

Alonso was also critical of the 'atmosphere' he encounters at McLaren at every race, and accused Ron Dennis and his other bosses of planting negative stories about him in the German and British press.

"When I joined the team, I hoped for more. I arrived with two world championships, we have improved the car as much as we can - last year they were struggling to go into qualifying three and this year then are going to win the championship.

"The truth is that the treatment has not been very good."

Alonso seemed particularly bitter about Dennis, a day after the McLaren Team Principal said he was 'disappointed' that the Spaniard had not defended the team's principles of equality.

"Sometimes it is better to shut up than to lie," Alonso responded on Saturday. "And if he did that more often, I believe his team would be a better one.

"I believe that many of the things and the scandals that have occurred this year have been caused by him.

"I have spoken a lot with Coulthard, Montoya, with Kimi, and all of them left the team and found great happiness. There must be something.

"If something is going to improve, it has to start with them (the team). You always hear about, or I am always told about, the so-called equality of the team.

"It is impossible to have it in Formula One - there is always a better engine, a better lap to stop, always a better something or other."

Alonso is staunchly quiet about his plans for 2008, but he said he hopes to be able to prepare for next year 'soon'.

"Sometimes, by the things you hear or the actions, it seems like they also do not have any desire (to continue together). I don't have a problem; I have another ten teams that could be interested in me.

"Staying here... it is necessary to look at whether it is the best thing to do or not," he said.

It's not written here, but I think Al0nso summed it up best when he said "the championship has been decided off-track."

[5vz-fe]

Wow, Mr. Nice Guy is now becoming aggressive against some journalists. He's more arrogant every day:

Q. (Heikki Kulta – Turun Sanomat) Lewis, do you hope that the storm comes and the race will be cancelled?

LH: No. Do you know what? I'm really surprised that you've asked me a question because all season you've not asked me one question. Whenever you get the microphone I know the question's going to Kimi. No, I think no, I just want to race. I'm going into tomorrow not thinking hey, this is the championship.

I think he's just getting playful with the jounalist. I think it's highly depending on the tone.

[sameerrao]

I think Kimi is going to win tomorrow with a 1-2 for Ferrari but Hamilton is going to all but clinch the championship this weekend with a third or fourth. He is going to leave with a 9-10 point lead over everyone and barring a DNF is going to win it by Brazil.

Also noted the pretty self-destructive comments by Alonso

[yellky]

my guess:
Rai will go for a win
Alo in top 4
Ham DNF - collision with Vet
and Vet who dare to touch the goldenboy, by the FIA decision, will be dropped 10 positions in next 80 races
:lol: :wink:

[5vz-fe]

my guess:
Rai will go for a win
Alo in top 4
Ham DNF - collision with Vet
and Vet who dare to touch the goldenboy, by the FIA decision, will be dropped 10 positions in next 80 races
:lol: :wink:

I would love that result, it will make Brazil much more interesting to watch.

[blue8]

Powerful typhoon heads for China
A child is rescued from a home destroyed by a mudslide in Taiwan (06.10)
Krosa battered eastern Taiwan, uprooting trees and causing floods
Mainland China is bracing itself for Typhoon Krosa as officials warn eastern coastal provinces and cities to prepare for the worst.

Almost 140,000 people have been relocated in Zhejiang and Fujian provinces, and 27,000 fishing boats recalled to port.

Holidays for emergency workers have been cancelled.

Typhoon Krosa is expected to strike southern Zhejiang and northern Fujian late on Sunday.

Strong winds, rainstorms and high tides are forecast.

China is nearing the end of a week-long national holiday, and more than 2,000 holidaymakers have been evacuated from island resorts.

Shanghai, where the Special Olympics are under way, has recalled all flood prevention workers as a precaution in case the typhoon heads further north.

Formula One motor racing drivers taking part in Sunday's Chinese Grand Prix, also in Shanghai, are braced for wet conditions.

Another wet race should be interesting, as long as it doesn't start with a 19-lap safety car period :? Considering this is a typhoon, chances are high that the race might be canceled if the conditions are really bad. I recall from months ago that a storm seriously damaged the grand stands at the circuit. If the race will push-through, I wonder how it will affect the strategies of the top 4. From qualifying, Hamilton seems to be on a much lighter fuel load than Raikkonen and Al0nso in particular. Would that be an advantage?

[Bizi Jones]

so what's going on in China right now...is it raining/ wet race?

[5vz-fe]

I still remember last year when Alonso claims Renault is screwing with his car at the end of the season because he's jumping to Mclaren. Yet same bitching tone happens again this year. He really should find a mirror and see what's wrong with himself.

[nthfinity]

OMGZ

Hamilton Retires!~!!!?!?!?!?!

[5vz-fe]

It's gonna be an exciting Brazil...my wish came true!!

[go1d1e]

Oh.. My...

[DeMoN]

Yeah I was trying to keep awake (3 am here) and that definitely woke me up. Goddammit I just wanted this to be over and have Hamilton win. Now, 2 weeks for the conclusion.

If Lewis does not win, I hope Kimi does. God knows Kimi deserves a championship. I really want to see him smile wide for once, and Im sure he has not smiled ever because he is reserving that for when he is World Champ lol.

[5vz-fe]

I think Lewis has a good character. After so close of licking that Driver Championship, he still take the time to shake the hands of the mechanic, and chat with the annoying reporter that keep asking him how he fews right now. He is definitely on a different dimension than Alonso when it comes to character.

[saadie]

FUCK YEH .. GO FERRARI !!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[nthfinity]

Whoa! Where did Massa's final 3-4 laps speed come from???? Too little too late... but taking something away from both Alonso, and Kimi by taking the "fastest lap" :)

[yellky]

well done Kimi!
too bad the transmision in Kub's BMW fuked up again.. :roll:

the sight of the day: Ron `push push` Dennis :lol: :lol:

[saadie]

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9040/image1mn1.gif

[Ghostbat]

Even if I am a McLaren fan I kinda enjoyed what happened. Now the race at interlagos will be very interesting.

[autohabit]

Pathetic Chinese marshalls http://209.85.48.8/2644/194/emo/gay.gif Me and my friends have pushed many a rally car out of a ditch in the forests of the RAC Rally in years gone by :lol:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/f1/d78b43d5.jpg

[blue8]

Full results:
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1411/2007chinesegpji1.jpg

I think Lewis has a good character. After so close of licking that Driver Championship, he still take the time to shake the hands of the mechanic, and chat with the annoying reporter that keep asking him how he fews right now. He is definitely on a different dimension than F1's Lance Bass when it comes to character.

http://images.teamtalk.com/07/10/240/Lewis_Hamilton_China_580623.jpghttp://www.planet-f1.com/Images/151577.jpg
Although I was happy because of the DNF, Hamilton reacted very well to the situation. If it were someone else, they would have gone completely ballistic!

The Interlagos race should be very interesting with 3 title contenders!!! Congrats to Raikkonen for a superb race! Vettel also did very well and redeemed himself from last week!


McLaren have conceded that they reacted too late to Lewis Hamilton's tyres losing grip during the Chinese GP - and admitted that the decision was the team's rather than the driver's.

By the time the World Championship leader was called in, his tyres were effectively bald and Hamilton was unable to keep it on the road as he attempted to enter the pitlane. The result was Hamilton's first DNF of his rookie season and sustained criticism of McLaren's tactics.

"With hindsight, Lewis stayed out for at least a lap too long," conceded team CEO Martin Whitmarsh. "It was our decision. We were operating in very changeable conditions and, frankly, the call was a lap too late and we regret that now."

However, McLaren's disappointment was partially compensated by Fernando Alonso finishing in second place to reignite his fading title aspirations.

"For Lewis, a very disappointing day. But Fernando, did a great job. As a team, we are still one and two in the standings and there is all still to play for," reflected Whitmarsh.

[gangajas]

Pathetic Chinese marshalls http://209.85.48.8/2644/194/emo/gay.gif Me and my friends have pushed many a rally car out of a ditch in the forests of the RAC Rally in years gone by :lol:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/wh00sher/f1/d78b43d5.jpg

Yes, they should have used a crane to put him on the track again. :roll: :D

[gucom]

oii i woke up late, as i turned on the tv the first thing i saw was lewis in the gravel... as a hamilton fan that's not what i wanted to see :( but it's great for the championship, i really hope he can clinch it in brazil. And indeed, class act on his side after such a disappointment to thank the mechanics

[gangajas]

class act on his side after such a disappointment to thank the mechanics

Yes, he would be a perfect PR.

[Mattk]

Vettel has really been pretty good of late. Toro Rosso have found some good race pace. But a good race from Raikonnen, and Hamilton's retirement means everything is still up for grabs. Except the Constructors Chmapionship.

[gangajas]

Alonso doesn't have a chance of winning a Championship in McLaren, when his boss says things like these:


The problem was rain and his (Hamilton's) tyres were in the worst condition. But we weren't at all fazed about Kimi. We weren't racing Kimi, we were basically racing Fernando.


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63139

Talk about equality :roll: :roll:

[gucom]

For ron dennis to bet on the best chance he has of his team winning the drivers' championship isnt THAT weird i think, although ofcourse i understand A-lonse wont like it 1 bit. But A-lonso has no business and no intention of staying at mclaren, he's bitching and complaining all the frikken time, he can sod off right away as far as i'm concerned.

[bultaco_metralla]

uffffff i almost cum whe saw FIA boy Hamilton on gravel... ahhahahaha newwwwbieeeeee!!! Waiting for Brazil!! if alonso were in first position in brazil and lewis second i would brake fucking huge to fuck Hamilton... Championship for Kimmi XDXD

And about Ecclestone's lamer declarations about Alonso... You suck fucking grandpa asshole, you have received a lot of millions for the Valencia GP in 2008, an that is because Alons.o.... so please die soon motherfucker

[gucom]

uffffff i almost cum whe saw FIA boy Hamilton on gravel... ahhahahaha newwwwbieeeeee!!! it was partially his tyres being completely worn and the pitlane being wet because it didnt have nearly as much traffic as the circuit itself, and partially just an effing stupid mistake... Waiting for Brazil!! if F1's Lance Bass were in first position in brazil and lewis second i would brake fucking huge to fuck Hamilton... Championship for Kimmi XDXD so you'd be a pathetic excuse for a sportsman then :)

And about Ecclestone's lamer declarations about F1's Lance Bass... You suck fucking grandpa asshole, you have received a lot of millions for the Valencia GP in 2008, an that is because Alons.o.... so please die soon motherfucker Ecclestone's a prick, but wouldnt it be enough if he just got out of F1, does he HAVE to die?

[saadie]

^^ because hes uggglllyyyy :lol: jk

ecclestone never was in favor of kimi since the beginning you know :roll: ...
he doest need to die .. he needs to take a trip in outer space and never return :) ..
he'd be involved in f1 even when he is 4 feet under the ground in a coffin :| .... :lol: :lol:

[gangajas]

Alonso, Massa and Raikkonen laughing at the fact that Hamilton wasn't put on the track by a crane today :lol:

YouTube

[blue8]

Hamilton's rear tires:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/222/1509060922_d6e630fc95.jpg

Ferrari celebrating their 200th win:
http://www.formula1.com/photos/597x478/sutton/2007/d07chn2562.jpg

[saadie]

wow.. raikonen has a different look on his face :lol: ...
and hes wearing a different watch too .. hmm

thanks for the pics blue 8)

[ae86_16v]

Wow Lewis ran it all the way down.

Why didn't he pit for new tires?

[5vz-fe]

Wow Lewis ran it all the way down.

Why didn't he pit for new tires?

1 Word.....Greed

[saadie]

2nd word .. immaturity

[Bizi Jones]

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4309/379916xs6.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=379916xs6.jpg)

:mrgreen:

[5vz-fe]

I think he still able to win the championship with ease given his points advantage.

Alonso must be kicking himself now knowing that if he didn't crash out last race, he would be fighting Lewis at the same level next race.

[saadie]

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4309/379916xs6.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=379916xs6.jpg)

:mrgreen:

:roflmao:

[novass]

wow, lotsa hate here eh? I like Hamilton myself....not one to revel in ones misfortune....Sure he shoulda pitted for tyres but that decision was not his to make.

I remember in the beginning of the season everyone was rooting for Hamilton and now everyone seems to hate him. :bah:

At least the last race will be interesting since the championship is a three man race. I will be happy as long as Kimi or Hamilton win the championship.:wink:

[DeMoN]

Kimi or Hamilton is my vote. Hamilton is a cool guy and the main reason I want him to win is so he gets a record near-impossible to beat.

Kimi deserves the championship and I want to see him smile and laugh and, who knows, cry when and if he wins it. But damn Alonso... at the begining of the season I didnt care much for him as long as he made McLaren win. Now, damn, I hate that idiot so much. He has turned out to be an even worse person than Schumacher.

[saadie]

Kimi for the championship!! :D GO FERRARI!!!!

(that's all I'm gonna say)

:mrgreen: :P

Ditto :P

[Svensson]

Hamilton crying again :roll: :roll:

I had a good weekend, I don't think I put a foot wrong and I didn't do anything to harm anyone else or put anyone else in danger but I've come away to China and no doubt I'm going to be punished for something," Hamilton said. "I just think it's a real shame for the sport.

"Formula One is supposed to be about hard competition - fair - and that's what I've tried to do this year, just be fair.

"If I've been in the wrong, I've been the first to put my hand up, or apologise at least, and I don't mind being given a penalty but there's been some really strange situations this year where I'm made to look the bad person or by the looks of it this weekend could be given a penalty.

"It's just a shame for the sport and if this is the way it's going to keep going then it's probably not somewhere I really want to be.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article2595645.ece
LoL, you really grab every opportunity to complaining about Hamilton...
Face it, he's kicking Alstronzo's ass, who by the way, is the real cry-baby :P

I'm not a fanboy of any driver so I think that I have the same right to post links about F1's Lance Bass than to post links about Hamilton. If you don't like what you read is not my problem.



Don't make me laugh now... You're probably the biggest Alstronzo fanboy here! :P
The only thing you post in this thread is how that spanish foo is always being treated unfair by everyone and it's him against the whole world, plus you seize every opportunity to put Hamilton in a bad daylight. Which is fine by me, but don't deny you're a fanboy :niet:

If anything, Alstronzo owes it to himself that he's not the favourite of the team. With his big ego and me-me-me - mentality he has ruined his own chances. What goes around, comes around.

[gangajas]

Hamilton crying again :roll: :roll:

I had a good weekend, I don't think I put a foot wrong and I didn't do anything to harm anyone else or put anyone else in danger but I've come away to China and no doubt I'm going to be punished for something," Hamilton said. "I just think it's a real shame for the sport.

"Formula One is supposed to be about hard competition - fair - and that's what I've tried to do this year, just be fair.

"If I've been in the wrong, I've been the first to put my hand up, or apologise at least, and I don't mind being given a penalty but there's been some really strange situations this year where I'm made to look the bad person or by the looks of it this weekend could be given a penalty.

"It's just a shame for the sport and if this is the way it's going to keep going then it's probably not somewhere I really want to be.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article2595645.ece
LoL, you really grab every opportunity to complaining about Hamilton...
Face it, he's kicking Alstronzo's ass, who by the way, is the real cry-baby :P

I'm not a fanboy of any driver so I think that I have the same right to post links about F1's Lance Bass than to post links about Hamilton. If you don't like what you read is not my problem.



Don't make me laugh now... You're probably the biggest Alstronzo fanboy here! :P
The only thing you post in this thread is how that spanish foo is always being treated unfair by everyone and it's him against the whole world, plus you seize every opportunity to put Hamilton in a bad daylight. Which is fine by me, but don't deny you're a fanboy :niet:

If anything, Alstronzo owes it to himself that he's not the favourite of the team. With his big ego and me-me-me - mentality he has ruined his own chances. What goes around, comes around.

OK, then I'll have to censor myself and only post stupid articles by the Bristish tabloids against anyone who put Hamilton's title in danger, then you will be happy. :roll:

[saadie]

you two are fighting like little girls .. :lol: ...

i couldnt help to notice :lol: ...

like .. no shit :lol:

[gangajas]

you two are fighting like little girls .. :lol: ...

i couldnt help to notice :lol: ...

like .. no shit :lol:

I have to have the last word, it's something I've learned fom RC45. :D :wink:

Just joking. :P

[Svensson]

OK, then I'll have to censor myself and only post stupid articles by the Bristish tabloids against anyone who put Hamilton's title in danger, then you will be happy. :roll:
I love it how you're doing your best to please me! :D

you two are fighting like little girls .. :lol: ...

i couldnt help to notice :lol: ...

like .. no shit :lol:

Look who's talking :P
http://youtube.com/watch?v=leoCcL30vhY

[Mattk]

^"Saadie baby eating", LOL! :lol:

I think both Alonso and Hamilton have not managed the media very well this year.

[saadie]

you two are fighting like little girls .. :lol: ...

i couldnt help to notice :lol: ...

like .. no shit :lol:

Look who's talking :P
http://youtube.com/watch?v=leoCcL30vhY

OMG you actually searched my name on yotube .. :lol:

you just have to be the most bored and the stupidest peron on JW :lol: ... :P


I think both F1's Lance Bass and Hamilton have not managed the media very well this year.
yep ... just one word for them .. "women " they like talking crap just like these two ..
the real man on the other hand is raikkonen .. he thinks thrice and says absolutly nothing :lol:

[Svensson]

^ Haha admit it, it's you in the video :lol:

[saadie]

nahhh ... that guy is a nigger compared to me :lol: ....

[blue8]

Speaking of Al0nso, after only qualifying 4th, he reportedly kicked down a door in McLaren's circuit office and smashed his race helmet out of disappointment. The team even had to call a carpenter to repair the damage. His relationship with the team though is beyond repairable.

Ron Dennis will discuss Al0nso's future after the Brazilian GP.

The ultimate compliment:
Kimi Raikkonen has been as strong as Michael Schumacher in the second part of the 2007 season, according to Ferrari's head of track activities Luca Baldisserri.

Despite winning the first race of the season in Australia, Raikkonen failed to dominate teammate Felipe Massa in the early part of the year following his switch from McLaren.

Since the French Grand Prix in July, however, the Finn has been the top scorer, including four victories in nine races, and he is still with a distant chance of taking the title in Brazil despite two retirements.

Baldisserri reckons now that Raikkonen has adapted to the team and the tyres, the Finn has been at Michael Schumacher's level.

"Michael is a seven times world champion and we've been working together for 10 years, and at the end, with the relationship with Michael it was enough to look into his eyes to understand where there was a problem, to understand what he was meaning when he was speaking about the car," Baldisserri said.

"Generally with Kimi, we were struggling a bit at the beginning because he had some trouble to adapt his driving style to our car, to learn all our systems and to learn the Bridgestone tyres but I have to say that from mid-season to the race that he did today he can be at the same level as Michael.

"A driver that can do a race like today, such difficult conditions, without making a mistake is a great driver."

Raikkonen is seven points behind championship leader Lewis Hamilton and will need to win the Brazilian Grand Prix, with Hamilton in sixth and Fernando Alonso in third, to take the title.

Raikkonen kept his championship hopes alive by winning the Chinese Grand Prix, from which Hamilton retired after a driving error.

Ferrari's sporting director Stefano Domenicali said it is no miracle that the Finn will be able to fight for the title in the final race.

"No, I don't think it is a miracle, first of all, because if you look, we have won eight races out of 16, so fifty per cent of that, we have done great results," said Domenicali.

"Unfortunately this year, we have suffered from other problems but we are still there and we need to be, as always, not too anxious and looking behind at the last race, but we need to make a deep analysis since the beginning of the championship and this is what we are doing now, as an audit just to be sure that at the last race everything is covered.

"But it's not a miracle. We always said that we never give up, it's not just a way of saying it, it's just what we feel and once again, I want to stress the point that the team is very close together, we know that from the outside, after one race, big pressure but that's part of the game."

Since Magny-Cours, this is the tally of the top 4 drivers:
LH: 49 (2 wins)
FA: 55 (2 wins)
KR: 68 (4 wins)
FM: 47 (1 win)

[bultaco_metralla]

Don't make me laugh now... You're probably the biggest Alstronzo fanboy here! :P
.

I think youre wrong... :D :D :D

[bmagni]

Don't make me laugh now... You're probably the biggest Alstronzo fanboy here! :P
.

I think youre wrong... :D :D :D

don't be jealous that someone is trying to steal your title

[hwjunkie]

My wife and I stood up and cheered when Hamilton got stuck... He needs more things like that to bring his big head down to earth...