Top Gear - S10 EP1 - 7th October, 2007 - Discussion

[vexor]

In the first of a new series Jeremy, Richard and James drive three lightweight supercars across Europe in search of the best roads. Plus Jeremy finds out what happens when you put a Bentley engine into a VW Golf, and Dame Helen Mirren is the Star In A Reasonably Priced Car.

10 episode season this time around

[saadie]

is it just me ... or their challenges really are getting boring :\ .. hmm

[5vz-fe]

Didn't they do the amphibious car challenge before?

[ferrari550]

I am sure the challenge will not be exactly the same. Will definatly be some different rules i guess and will be very entertaining. and the R8, clarkson loves it so i am not expecting anything different from his write up but can't wait to see it on the track!!

[poltz]

enough with the goddamn challenges!

[blue8]

^ +1
R8!!!

Will they ever test the 599?!?!?

[yg60m]

Nice to see them back !! :D

[Bizi Jones]

is this season going to be in hd?

[jorge]

Am i the only one that still loves the challenges? :?

[saadie]

yeah your old :prr:

[Caplax40]

Am i the only one that still loves the challenges? :?

Nah man, I love the challenges. The Star in a reasonably priced car I could do without but the challenges are probably my favorite feature.

[jakaracman]

Ufff, 2 more weeks ...

[Svensson]

Challenges are nice to watch, but the challenge/car-test ratio is getting a bit out of hand lately.

[Ford Capri 2.8i]

Probably the program wont dissapoint me (I think that the Series 10 will be quite better than the 9), but I started to get bored with the challenges as well; IMO the reason is because they have been doing each challenge under the same pattern and it hasnt been renewed.

However, if they do some challenge or other program features under some innovation, theyll produce a desirable program for every audience

[gangajas]

Not interested at all in the challenge, looking forward to the R8 test.

[obdr]

I like the challenges too.......but I preferred the "race" challenges more then the goofball ones. I like the goofball ones mixed in every ounce in awhile but I prefer the old style of challenges where Clarckson would race something like a Merc/Mclaren SLR against Hampster and Co. taking the cruise ship/train/light aircraft and such. Those challenges were amazing.

Im still waiting for JC to take a Gallardo spyder on a challenge accross the USA from coast to coast against his mates taking a Greyhound bus.

[coloradosilver]

It seems that we rarely get to see the good old fun car reviews anymore.

It's always some sort of car challenge, and sometime it's something that doesn't really have to do much with cars.

I like it when its just the driver in the car doing the review on the road and around the track.

Don't get me wrong, I love the challenges. But I think I liked the Top Gear of a Few years ago more than the TG of today.

[martin100]

Sounds promising! And by the way, i like the challenges too, though the earlier ones like the convertible people carrier were more funny than the later ones. But the petrol growing challenge was hilarious aswell :lol:

And i can´t wait for the R8 review, hopefully in old school TG quality :twisted:

BTW, is this series aired in HD or not?

[gangajas]

Change of plans:

In the first of a new series. Jeremy, Richard and James drive three lightweight supercars across Europe in search of the best roads.

Probably, these three:

http://i23.tinypic.com/168x3pi.jpg

Plus Jeremy finds out what happens when you put a Bentley engine into a VW Golf (:D), and Dame Helen Mirren is the Star In A Reasonably Priced Car

[Svensson]

Change of plans:

In the first of a new series. Jeremy, Richard and James drive three lightweight supercars across Europe in search of the best roads.

Probably, these three:

http://i23.tinypic.com/168x3pi.jpg
Now that sounds more like it! :D


Plus Jeremy finds out what happens when you put a Bentley engine into a VW Golf (:D), and Dame Helen Mirren is the Star In A Reasonably Priced Car
This is of course the Volkswagen Golf GTI W12-650 Concept.


Sounds a bit like the comparo across France with the Zonda, the F430 and another car I don't remember now :P
Ford GT :P
:arrow: http://www.jabbasworld.net/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1346

[martin100]

Still, no news if this series will be aired in HD or not?

[vexor]

Change of plans:

In the first of a new series. Jeremy, Richard and James drive three lightweight supercars across Europe in search of the best roads.

Probably, these three:

http://i23.tinypic.com/168x3pi.jpg

Plus Jeremy finds out what happens when you put a Bentley engine into a VW Golf (:D), and Dame Helen Mirren is the Star In A Reasonably Priced Car

yep ur right, i've changed the first post so it should all be good now

[SilviaEvo]

wow its been so long since the last season im hella excited for this one!

[blue8]

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TGTV preview: Veyron vs jet fighter

There are just six days to go until the new series of Top Gear returns to your Sunday night on BBC Two.

Throughout the week, we'll be counting down to lift-off with sneak previews of the biggest challenges, races and stunts that you can look forward to in the new series.

And races don't come much bigger than this one: the Bugatti Veyron against the RAF's new Eurofighter Typhoon jet.

See, when Jeremy raced Richard and James across Europe - him in a Veyron and the other two in a washing-machine-with-a- propellor-on-the-front - a few of the boys from the RAF got a bit upset that it wasn't a fair fight.

They had a point, in fairness - the finest piece of automotive engineering in history versus a clattery Cessna 182 was only ever going to end one way.

So the RAF offered up their base for a proper race: a two-mile sprint between the Veyron and a jet fighter.

That's a mile to the end of the runway and back for the Veyron, while the jet plane - being able to fly and all - had to go a mile straight up in the air and then, well, a mile straight back down again.

A fair fight? Of course not. A close race? You'll just have to wait until Sunday to find out.

The new series of Top Gear starts this Sunday at 8pm on BBC2.

[vexor]

here's a more detailed preview of this week's episode

The wait is nearly over. On Sunday night Top Gear will return to your television, and you won't believe what we've got in store.

All week we've been counting down to the big day with exclusive previews (if you missed out, see the list below) and every week we'll be bringing you an exclusive video clip from the upcoming show.

But first, this week. On Sunday night's show you'll see Jeremy drive the awesome Golf W12 - VW's 641bhp present to itself to celebrate the GTi's 30th anniversary. It's a great piece of film - so good that we nabbed an exclusive little promo video for you to watch before Sunday's show.

The big film involves the latest crop of Atkins-diet supercars and a hunt for the world's greatest driving roads. It's a two-parter with Jeremy falling in love all over again with the Gallardo Superlegerra, Richard chasing hard in bright green Porsche GT3 RS and James trapped miles behind in an airconless Aston N24 race car.

This week's star in our reasonably priced car is A-lister Dame Helen Mirren and we also see a welcome, if slightly scorched, return of the Cool Wall. If give away any more details, they won't let us in next week.

[Caplax40]

^^^^^^ Haha James always gets the short end of the stick!

[blue8]

More details:
As we take the tyre-warmers off a new series of Top Gear, the wait’s almost over. We’ve got ten whole episodes of excellent-ness ready to unleash on your Sunday night viewing schedule, and you simply won’t believe what Messrs Clarkson, Hammond and May have been up to over the past couple of months.

So, for one night of the week at least, you can banish cookery and home-improvement programmes from your screen and enjoy some good old-fashioned petrol-based fun.

In episode one, we decided to find the finest driving road in Europe. Coincidentally, Lamborghini, Porsche and Aston Martin have recently seen fit to release a brace of new lightweight road-racers in the form of the Gallardo Superleggera, 911 GT3 RS and V8 Vantage N24. To quote Hammond, I think you can see where this is going.

Also in the first programme, Jeremy takes to the test track in an improbably powerful VW Golf, and we put a monarch (sort of) in our reasonably priced car when Dame Helen Mirren comes to visit.

Later in the series, we’ll treat you to a selection of massive challenges and stunts. You’ll see the glorious return of the amphibious cars, in a voyage that makes the crossing of a reservoir look a tiny bit feeble. We put the biofuel we grew last series to seriously good use. And we spend an entire programme in Africa as our intrepid presenters attempt one of our wildly over-ambitious, but cheap, races.

Also: it was massively delayed, gave some of the finest engineering minds in Europe nervous breakdowns, and is too expensive for all but the richest Arab potentates - and that’s just the car. Find out what happened when the Bugatti Veyron met the Eurofighter.

It might surprise you to know we’ve even thrown in some road tests and reviews of the most exciting and interesting cars to hit the road - including the latest Ferrari, Porsche-baiting new Audi R8 supercar and hotly tipped Caparo T1.

So, stop the clocks, silence the dog with a juicy bone and cancel anything you were planning to do on Sunday evenings for the next ten weeks - Top Gear is back!

Sunday 7, 8pm BBC Two

Repeated Wednesday 10, 7pm on BBC Two

[gangajas]

Some short previews of this week's programme:

Gallardo SL, 911 GT3 RS and AM V8 N24:

http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/videos/74/chooseconnection.html

Golf GTI W12:

http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/videos/72/chooseconnection.html

[martin100]

At least they got the 599 GTB on the show! The Caparo T1 should also be interesting! Seems to be an astonishing series once again :mrgreen:

[stmoritzer]

Probably, these three:

http://i23.tinypic.com/168x3pi.jpg



!!, they have been in the Swiss Alps, the picture is taken in Davos, a swiss alpine resort close to St.Moritz - means plenty of mountain roads ahead :mrgreen:

[leblanc2.0]

http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/2278/images/4/large.jpg
bugatti veyron v eurofighter - YouTube

[Svensson]

Probably, these three:

http://i23.tinypic.com/168x3pi.jpg



!!, they have been in the Swiss Alps, the picture is taken in Davos, a swiss alpine resort close to St.Moritz - means plenty of mountain roads ahead :mrgreen:
Thanks for the info stmoritzer! You have a sharp eye :P

[Svensson]

Remember BBC2-recieving guys, Top Gear starts in less then one hour! :D

[Svensson]

Jeremy Clarkson about the Stig:
Some say... his scrotum has its own gravity-field
:lol:

[GRiP_DRiVER]

aww.... i have to wait for somebody to put up a torrent. I hate this damned country. No good tv shows.

[Svensson]

^ I'm sure Jabba will put it on the http://www.mininova.org/tor/.

That was a very nice episode! The Gallardo SL / GT3 RS / V8 Vantage 24N feature was great... A lot of beautiful shots of the cars on the most incredible roads against amazing backdrops. Unfortunately they focused more on getting the nicest shots than on the actual cars and the driving itself. But perhaps I'm a bit spoilt by Chris Harris's vids where he drives those kind of cars to the limits of grip and beyond :P

[pagani]

I really love the driving roads feature.
If i ever go on a holiday i think will go to the col du turini and the stelvio pass.
That are some proper driving roads.
:D 8)

[Jabba]

Nope there was no HD transmission I am afraid, the main feature will be up in an hour or so (its most of the show hence why its taking so long to upload - over 300 MB) :?

[Svensson]

^ I think Jabba meant that the main feature took up a big part of the whole episode.
I've just timed it and it's over 30 minutes in total (including the "discussion" in the studio before and after the feature).

A ~700MB torrent of the full show is available as a torrent on the net as well, though, with a little over 100 seeders and almost 2000 lecchers, the speed isn't exactly...great. :D
It's also on Usenet, where I just got it from, so if you want it fast, Newsgroups are probably you're best chance.

[kufain]

Can't wait for this new episode...am excited!!!! :P :lol: :P

[Jabba]

You say its almost the full show wich parts do you cut out?

The review of the mad golf (that will be uploaded soon), news and star in a car.

[r2r]

Just watched the whole episode and must say that was great entertainment!

[Caplax40]

That was a great episode! Top Gear has such high production value. The camera work and how everything is produced is just amazing.

Can someone fill me on on their "Everything is real" comment in the very beginning? I assume they got some flak in regards to their challenges or something?

[acmarttin]

Great episode! Made possible by Jabba. Thanks for covering the backs of those of us who don't get Top Gear on TV!!!

I don't want to spoil the joke but the jab Jezza made at 5th gear made me spit soda. I have a feeling that some JW members close to that final mountain pass are going to be taking a road trip next spring :D


Can someone fill me on on their "Everything is real" comment in the very beginning? I assume they got some flak in regards to their challenges or something?

I can't fill you in officially but I have a feeling that you're on the nose about the comment. I have had the feeling that certain aspects of past challenges were set up, but I've gotten really good at just enjoying things lately so it hasn't really bothered me. TG is incredibly entertaining as always :)

[Svensson]

Is Usenet free?
Yes it is. However, your internet service provider needs to support the newsgroups that you want to download from.

If you want to get started, you can find everything you need to know here:
http://www.binaries4all.com/beginners/

[stmoritzer]

Davos-Stelvio

grrr . :love:

this would be a JW-drive :wink:

[pzgren]

i'm not quite sure which road they took. i'll watch it again and consider the maps afterwards. guess i'll have to drive down there too next spring...

[pzgren]

Davos is only 1,5 hours drive away form where i live, so wouldn't be a big thing to go there for me. maybe the perfect road to test my new car in spring :D

[pzgren]

You know already what you're going to get? Give us a hint :wink:
No :D

i have a few things in mind. but as i wrote in the other topic i'll buy something new in spring. until then i'll make a few tests rides and find out which will be the best car for me... :wink:


i've found some infos about the road:

Passo dello Stelvio is the 2nd highest asphaltic pass in the alps. it's usually open from end of may until november.
the 50km long street over the pass was build from the austrian empire between 1820 and 1826. in WWI between 1915 and 1917 was the Italianfront in this region. there are still parts of military positions to see from this time.
the design of the road is more or less the same since it was build. still today there is the curvy north east ramp from Trafoi with 48 numbered curves.

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[martin100]

Great first episode as expected! Nothing to complain about! Old style TG quality! I guess the BBC provided them with more money for this episode alone than Channel 5 for the whole 5th Gear series. And it shows :wink:

[jakaracman]

Well, the "artwork" was up to usual TG standard but the episode itself was kind of watery. VW was great but the light supercars piece lasked proper TG humour (except the naked May part) ...
And the "new" frniture is awful ...
At least JC - Hamster jokes are still funny ...

[jorge]

Excellent episode as usual, i even watched it twice :|

[vexor]

The News Uncut

Part one: http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/videos/76/broadband_wm.html

Part two: http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/videos/77/broadband_wm.html

Part three: http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/videos/78/broadband_wm.html

Part four: http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/videos/79/broadband_wm.html

[Store24]

Finally a good Top Gear!! Hooray!! They must have fired the director that ruined the last 2 or 3 seasons. Finally they are going back to what people liked. If you were to take a poll on peoples all time favorite episodes I'm sure the one where they drove the F430, Ford GT, and Zonda in France would be in almost everyone’s top 3.

Seems like who ever is running the show now knew that and decided to make another show similar to it. Thank God and well done! Stick with what you know works. I just wish they would have given James a real car because that racing Jag was kind of stogy.

But great episode, the best one in 2 or 3 seasons!!

Oh and Hammond is trying to hard. In the on set parts he looks like he is pretending to be a rock star. Long hair does look good on some people but defiantly not him! For god sake he was wearing purple wooden beads that matched his shirt color!! And a cheesy rock star wanabe jacket. Lose the new look Hammond and go back to what always worked for you too!

[graywolf624]

Top Gear is Back! So lets see. First the 3 cars finding the best drive. Well where they ended up is one of the most famous mountain passes. Its pictures and videos have been used in countless car reviews. I know top gear has used it before, and I've seen pictures of it associated with Ferrari. Fantastic drive but I think they are really sort sighted cutting out Australia and the US. The 2 best drives Ive ever been on, one was in the US the other in Tasmania. Then again, only one of these made top gear magazines top 100 (the one in the states).

The racing Aston jk got a bit old after a while, and seeing may naked was not exactly my idea of fun. Still it was fun to watch the cars shift around on these roads.

The news bit, blaming it on 5th gear. Man Id thought that rivalry was dead. They hadnt taken a stab at each other in years. Oh well, it had to reawaken sooner or later. I don't remember them flipping the ateam van though, just driving it.

What was up with Richards hair? He looked like top gear dog was on his head. Then again, where is the dog for that matter?

The bit about the golf though.. Kinda made me scratch my head and ask me why did they bother. Rubbish and a concept car.. Then again there are plenty of concept cars i would like to see tested so I guess I can;t complain.

[ARMAN]

Great episode I am SO happy TG is back! :P Thank you endlessly Jabba http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9020/pray1np1.gif (http://www.imageshack.us)


The News Uncut

Part one: http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/videos/76/broadband_wm.html

Part two: http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/videos/77/broadband_wm.html

Part three: http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/videos/78/broadband_wm.html

Part four: http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/videos/79/broadband_wm.html

thanx for posting those links Vexor! :P I was wondering what Richard didnt say when he said "we cant say that on the telly" :lol: btw Clarkson is one rude motherf@ker :D