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StanAE86
08-31-2007, 12:20 AM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2007/08/30/entertainment/e091851D27.DTL


Thursday, August 30, 2007 (AP)
Dogs Sniff Out Counterfeit DVDs in NY

(08-30) 09:19 PDT New York (AP) --

There's no need to fear — unless you bootleg DVDs.

The movie industry's real-life "Underdogs" — two specially trained
black Labradors — have sniffed out a large inventory of knockoff
discs in the New York City borough of Queens, the district attorney's
office said Wednesday.

The dogs, named Lucky and Flo, participated in a probe resulting in raids
on three retail outlets where investigators discovered thousands of hidden
DVDs. Titles included "The Simpsons Movie,""The Bourne Ultimatum" and
"Underdog," the film inspired by a cartoon superhero beagle. Three people
were arrested and charged with trademark counterfeiting.

Lucky and Flo are sponsored by the Motion Picture Association of America,
and are trained to identify discs by the scent of chemicals.

"Man's best fried has become a DVD counterfeiter's worst nightmare,"
Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said in a statement.

It was their first assignment in the U.S., following a successful
assignment in Malaysia in March. During that stint — dubbed
Operation Double Trouble — they helped unearth nearly 1.9 million
DVDs, three DVD replicating machines and 97 compact disc burners, worth $6
million. Twenty-six people were arrested on copyright violations.

The operations were so successful that Malaysian movie pirates were
reported to have placed a bounty of $29,000 on the dogs, prompting them to
be kept under close guard.

Movie studios in the U.S. lost $6.1 billion to worldwide piracy in 2005,
of which the Asia-Pacific region accounted for $1.2 billion and the United
States for $1.3 billion, according to the Motion Picture Association of
America. ----------------------------------------------------------
Copyright 2007 AP

RC45
08-31-2007, 12:22 AM
Who actually buys duped DVD movies?

I don't get it?

Mattk
08-31-2007, 12:36 AM
^Clearly, lots of people, considering estimated global losses of $6.1 mn. They're cheap and quality is improving. The legal DVDs are not cheap.

RC45
08-31-2007, 01:02 AM
I think the "estimates" are grossly over stated

How many people do YOU know who buy pirate DVD's and CD's?

Even in the USA... a huge market, once a movie is on DVD its price plummets.

A year after launch they are $5 a pop. Cheaper that pirate copies.

Mattk
08-31-2007, 01:14 AM
How many people do YOU know who buy pirate DVD's and CD's?

My father has bought a few in China, but the price difference between pirated and official there is quite high, and the quality is exactly the same, because the same people make them. (No shit, it's actually true). DVDs in Australia are very expensive. Most people just rent. Unless you are in the military and have access to lots of high-end hardware and lots of time and can produce your own.

Bizi Jones
08-31-2007, 04:17 AM
those figures are crap to begin with...if ppl buy pirated movies because they can't afford to pay for studio ones, than they wouldn't buy them from retailers even if there weren't any bootlegs available...so if they wouldn't buy them from studios either way than there's no loss to speak off :P

Mattk
09-01-2007, 04:38 AM
^Because even people who can afford to buy the legal ones will buy the illegal ones, because they are 20 times cheaper.

graywolf624
09-01-2007, 10:14 AM
How the hell does a dog sniff out a counterfeit dvd? The only logical way I could see a dog determinging a counterfeit is detecting a difference in quality of the dvd burn and material based on the smell. While I do believe dogs can do that, that would mean everyone in the industry would have to use the same type of laser, and they would get alot of false positives for home made movies.

RC45
09-01-2007, 02:20 PM
How the hell does a dog sniff out a counterfeit dvd? The only logical way I could see a dog determinging a counterfeit is detecting a difference in quality of the dvd burn and material based on the smell. While I do believe dogs can do that, that would mean everyone in the industry would have to use the same type of laser, and they would get alot of false positives for home made movies.

I do believe the dogs are smelling the organic dyes used in non stamped burnable DVD's.

The assumption is that the counterfiets use burnable Discs and this is what they are sniffing out - I bet they had many false positives as shipments of blank DVD's were intercepted time and time again ;)

So they just kept looking till they got a bunch of burned discs.

5vz-fe
09-01-2007, 03:56 PM
I believe more money is losted in illegal movie download then bootleg dvds. If you won't pay retail for dvd, may as well burn it urself. Those movie association always blow up their numbers to make them look like they suffer alot more than they really did.