Audi B7 RS4 vs BMW E92 M3 (Auto Express Magazine)

[Schwalbe]

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I like their conclusions. :wink:

[bmagni]

kewl, go M3!
the RS4 wins just because it's more "fun" to drive, meh... still I believe that beating Audi's interior design is tough.
thnx for the article

[JoeHahn]

kewl, go M3!
the RS4 wins just because it's more "fun" to drive, meh...

But isnt that the reason everyone raved over the old M3 compared to older Audi's?

Thanks for the article - good read 8)

[gangajas]

I like the result too, BMW fanboys are being too arrogant with its new favourite machine.

[martin100]

Hmm interesting. I guess it´s just a question of taste which to choose, as the RS4 is a very hard competitor. In the end i would say the M3 is once again the "more fun to drive" car, while the RS4 is more the everyday allround car. I guess i´d also take the RS4 for it´s interior and quality. But the M3 looks way better than i thought it would. Can´t decide which looks better...

[inso]

Thanks for the scans.

[bmwmpower]

how can be more fun in 4 wheel drive then rear wheel drive ?
im not saying that rs4 is better, maybe is ,but we were listening all those years that atmosferic engine a rear wheel drive is always the best way to have fun during driving

[pzgren]

nice article

the center console of the m3 looks strange to me...

[cooperluke]

Me too... :(

[twboy1999]

i'll take the m3

[bmagni]

i hadn't read this part: "it requires skill to master, but rewards in a way the RS4 simply can't"

so RS4 more fun to drive ehhh? :P

[pitfield]

That's not what they are saying, same as old M3 vs old RS4

[bmwmpower]

Meh - I'd still take the new C63 AMG! :wink: :P

Seriously, I've been quite dissapointed with the M3 reviews I've seen so far... looks like every new M3 is duller and half as thrilling as the previous one :? :? the Audi is one step ahead when compared with the E92, because afterall, you won't drive flat out all the time... so I know the E92 can be more rewarding when driving on the limit, but how many times will you drive at that pace at the end of the day :wink:

with that mentality u could be happy with a4 2,0 tdi

[bmwmpower]

Meh - I'd still take the new C63 AMG! :wink: :P

Seriously, I've been quite dissapointed with the M3 reviews I've seen so far... looks like every new M3 is duller and half as thrilling as the previous one :? :? the Audi is one step ahead when compared with the E92, because afterall, you won't drive flat out all the time... so I know the E92 can be more rewarding when driving on the limit, but how many times will you drive at that pace at the end of the day :wink:

with that mentality u could be happy with a4 2,0 tdi

Not really, because I like to trash my car every now and then on trackdays... but that doesn't mean I will be driving flat out all the time :wink:

not all the time, but flat out is the time when u see difference between cars

[bmwmpower]

Meh - I'd still take the new C63 AMG! :wink: :P

Seriously, I've been quite dissapointed with the M3 reviews I've seen so far... looks like every new M3 is duller and half as thrilling as the previous one :? :? the Audi is one step ahead when compared with the E92, because afterall, you won't drive flat out all the time... so I know the E92 can be more rewarding when driving on the limit, but how many times will you drive at that pace at the end of the day :wink:

with that mentality u could be happy with a4 2,0 tdi

Not really, because I like to trash my car every now and then on trackdays... but that doesn't mean I will be driving flat out all the time :wink:

not all the time, but flat out is the time when u see difference between cars

First off, your opinion is clearly biased - just look at your name :wink:

And secondly, you're not Michael Schumacher, nor am I... so I'm sure we wouldn't even notice the difference between both cars driving flat out :wink:

u dont need to be schumacher to see diference between 4 wheel drive and rear wheel drive

[Just_me]

I can have fun with both cars. The word fun is all about personal preferences. The average driver will have a lot of fun with both cars.
It all depends on which mood Im in to determine which car I choose.

[RC45]

Ahhhh - the classic test between the BoyRacer toycar and the overweight Boat.

How could either of those under performers be classed as "fun"?

Expressway 4 seaters maybe, but "fun"? No thanks... in that price range any used 911 will be gobs more fun than either of these 2 boyracer, mid-management, overweight overpriced slugs of pig iron :)

[bmwmpower]

Ahhhh - the classic test between the BoyRacer toycar and the overweight Boat.

How could either of those under performers be classed as "fun"?

Expressway 4 seaters maybe, but "fun"? No thanks... in that price range any used 911 will be gobs more fun than either of these 2 boyracer, mid-management, overweight overpriced slugs of pig iron :)

well quality cost something,also technology, audi and bmw has great engines,one of the very best now,

[rave426]

Ahhhh - the classic test between the BoyRacer toycar and the overweight Boat.

How could either of those under performers be classed as "fun"?

Expressway 4 seaters maybe, but "fun"? No thanks... in that price range any used 911 will be gobs more fun than either of these 2 boyracer, mid-management, overweight overpriced slugs of pig iron :)


I think both of the cars are awsome.

Overweight YES...Hell Yes. Overpriced....not near as bad as Porsche. I just saw a pair of 66K and 70K Caymans the other day. Tell me that aint robbery.

For the prices I think you get the best of all worlds. Speed, comfort, luxury, high revs, decent torqe, and a nasty sound V8. And I honestly think that the new M3 will be more fun to drive than a stock 997 (non-S).

I dont know if you ever drove the E46, but if you try to hold back your crack-like craving for torque and 400+hp cars I think you will have a good time. :) To me the E46 was less about the power and more about the sound and feel that you experience when driving hard.

If BMW can shave some ~400 lbs off the new E92 CSL and make that engine produce at least 450hp I think we will be in the mist of one of the most entertaining vehicles of all time. :o

Granted all that bullsh|t i said. If I could get a used 997S for the same price as the M3 then BMW can kiss my ass. HA

[rave426]

how can be more fun in 4 wheel drive then rear wheel drive ?
im not saying that rs4 is better, maybe is ,but we were listening all those years that atmosferic engine a rear wheel drive is always the best way to have fun during driving

I see where u are coming from, but I have come to realize that there is a secret kind of odd enjoyment that you get from driving a well setup AWD car. I drove the new STI. I was in second gear cornering on a wet road and this sort of awe fell over me when I realized that I could smash the gas and not worry about a damn thing. It just goes and grips, and grips....and eventually understeers. But it just felt so refresing know that no matter what i gave it....it was going to stay on course.

Of course this would get old to me, because I want to be able to indulge in some opposite lock, but to some people I bet that simple fact is very inspiring!