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StanAE86
07-04-2007, 08:42 PM
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Wednesday, July 4, 2007 (AP)
Police: Shoppers Stepped Over Victim
By ROXANA HEGEMAN, Associated Press Writer

(07-04) 04:57 PDT Wichita, Kan. (AP) --

As stabbing victim LaShanda Calloway lay dying on the floor of a
convenience store, five shoppers, including one who stopped to take a
picture of her with a cell phone, stepped over the woman, police said.

The June 23 situation, captured on the store's surveillance video, got
scant news coverage until a columnist for The Wichita Eagle disclosed the
existence of the video and its contents Tuesday.

Police have refused to release the video, saying it is part of their
investigation.

"It was tragic to watch," police spokesman Gordon Bassham said Tuesday.
"The fact that people were more interested in taking a picture with a cell
phone and shopping for snacks rather than helping this innocent young
woman is, frankly, revolting."

The woman was stabbed during an altercation that was not part of a
robbery, Bassham said. It took about two minutes for someone to call 911,
he said.

Calloway, 27, died later at a hospital.

Two suspects have been arrested. A 19-year-old woman was charged with
first-degree murder. Another suspect who turned himself in had not been
charged as of Tuesday, the Sedgwick County prosecutor's office said.

The district attorney's office will have to decide whether any of the
shoppers could be charged, Bassham said.

It was uncertain what law, if any, would be applicable. A state statute
for failure to render aid refers only to victims of a car accident.

Eagle columnist Mark McCormick told The Associated Press he learned about
the video when he called Wichita Police Chief Norman Williams to inquire
about a phone call he had received from a reader complaining about a
Police Department policy that requires emergency medical personnel to wait
until police secure a crime scene before rendering aid. McCormick said
Williams then unloaded on him about the shoppers in the stabbing case.

"This is just appalling," Williams told the newspaper. "I could continue
shopping and not render aid and then take time out to take a picture?
That's crazy. What happened to our respect for life?" ----------------------------------------------------------
Copyright 2007 AP

Mattk
07-04-2007, 09:39 PM
Yeah, this is pretty appalling. You'd think people would notice that someone had been stabbed and was in pain, and the only person which did take notice thought it was a good idea to take a picture of it. Sick.

graywolf624
07-04-2007, 11:19 PM
Not to point out the obvious, but most people arent trained in what to do beyond call 911.. Also anyone thats say a nurse isnt going to render aide because of the lawsuit implications. That basically means unless you meet someone with training who isnt a professional or willing to take the risk of a lawsuit you wait for the ambulance. Sucks but thats the way it is. It honestly might be better that way since someone who isnt trained could make the victim worse.

Still walking over the individual is a bit excessive. They could talk to her and calm her down in the interim.

acmarttin
07-05-2007, 12:25 AM
Shit dude I would at least try to put some pressure on the wound. I've seen enough episodes of Rescue 911 as a kid to figure that out.

Mattk
07-05-2007, 12:29 AM
Yeah, at the very least, they could have stopped to find out why someone was lying on the ground, wounded.

Although I would have thought that those who render aid to wounded people are generally immune to lawsuits unless they do something really stupid, like yanking people out of car crashes and snapping their necks.

Zot09
07-05-2007, 02:44 AM
Wow...that is just unbelievably disgusting... :(

RIP

graywolf624
07-05-2007, 05:32 PM
Yeah, at the very least, they could have stopped to find out why someone was lying on the ground, wounded.
Someone called 911 within 2 mins of it happening.. So obviously someone did.


Although I would have thought that those who render aid to wounded people are generally immune to lawsuits unless they do something really stupid, like yanking people out of car crashes and snapping their necks.
Sadly no. Part of the benefit/need for being certified by the American Red Cross for first aid is they provide legal protection should you get sued. No such legal protection is provided to registered nurses, meaning most nurses will hesitate to help you.

In a long ago former life I was a lifeguard, and my mother is a nurse, hence I am acutely aware of the legal ramifications of helping someone.

Mattk
07-05-2007, 09:52 PM
^Yeah, I know what mean now. Nurses would probably be able to be sued for professional negligence.

I still find this situation hard to understand.

ARMAN
07-06-2007, 10:31 AM
We can only say thanx to SOB lawers and the system that is existing that offer you theyr "service" anytime you ate too much at McDonald or you want to help someone and can be sued for life(i am not talking about helping someone who was injured and you can easily make it only worse by helping). This does not exist here thankfully but the lawyers I have met who wanted tonns of money from our oun company and thats literally for nothing(and obviously you cant do nothing against it) makes me want to brake every single bone in theyr body :x This in the same way does not justify those fat asses who didnt notice someone laying down on the floor and galopped them over.

Pokiou
07-08-2007, 10:12 PM
Man that is revolting.. they should get stab and left to die!

blinkmeat
07-08-2007, 11:08 PM
You guys are sue happy though - anything to make a buck -- I don't imagine a judge would throw ridiculous lawsuits out in America?

This is a survival story ...

http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/198247

philip
07-08-2007, 11:57 PM
In Texas good samaritans are shielded from lawsuits, even if they harm the victim.

Do n't know about Kansas.

I have generally found Kansan's to be very helpful, I'm not sure why this happened.

ARMAN
07-09-2007, 09:21 PM
"The first thing we must do... is kill all the lawyers" - William Shakespeare

:mrgreen:

Mattk
07-09-2007, 10:45 PM
^I find your hostility towards my future profession somewhat disconcerting! :P But, yes, some lawyers just like to file lawsuits to get attention and some street cred. A lot of them have honourable intentions, but I still think it's dishonest.

79TA
07-15-2007, 05:41 AM
Well, on a happier a note, a lady from my church who happens to be a nurse saved a guy a couple of months ago. She was driving to church and stopped where a man was hanging out of his 30's hotrod (she didn't know what it was and therefore I don't as I wasn't there) that he had just badly wrecked. The man was quite delerious and appeared to be drunk. He was bleeding terribly as he'd cut a couple of very important arteries (he was missing much of the skin from his back). Anyway, the afforementioned nurse stopped and controlled the bleeding using strips that she ripped off of her dress. This undoubtedly let the man live long enough for the paramedics to arrive.

The funny thing is that she still went to church after all of this and then did her best to wash the blood off of her dress before the service started. She visited the guy the next week who didn't remember the incident at all. He was mostly grumpy and not at all grateful for the lady who saved his life. It's sad to see how selfish that man was but it is nice to know that there are people who would stop to help a stranger.