newsgroups... what are they/how do they work

[No.1]

Sorry in advance, but what are newgroups.... i seem to have not noticed them until now, and i can't understand them. :?

I've not signed up to any just yet, but i think i may sign up to this one
http://v3.newzbin.com/

What lies beneath the surface of these sites?... direct HTTP downloads, or access to torrents, and a user account which requires you to keep a healthy UL/DL ratio?

Any further explanation would be welcome :D

[No.1]

does nobody else know what they are for?

glad i'm not the only one then... lol.

I think i'll sign up to newzbin with my spam email account :idea:

[No.1]

That kind of makes sense....

I've registered on newzbin, but i need to add credit to my account to be able to so much... does this credit give me access to torrent files?

Strange that they should charge for a service that encourages copyright theft/infringement. :|

[TopGearNL]

I use them.

You need a site/forum where they say what they posted and where. Then you can copy the filename they give to www.binsearch.info for instance, look it up and if it finds the file you can make a NZB link of it. Now you can open this NZB link with programs like Grabit or Newsleecher. In those programs you have to create a server with which it downloads whatever you want to download. You can either use your own connection as a server or go for a payserver.

[No.1]

I use them.

You need a site/forum where they say what they posted and where. Then you can copy the filename they give to www.binsearch.info for instance, look it up and if it finds the file you can make a NZB link of it. Now you can open this NZB link with programs like Grabit or Newsleecher. In those programs you have to create a server with which it downloads whatever you want to download. You can either use your own connection as a server or go for a payserver.

i think i undestand you, but i might have to ask a few more questions when i try this out :P :wink:

[TopGearNL]

^^ Discover the magic of the PM button :wink:

[Svensson]

That kind of makes sense....

I've registered on newzbin, but i need to add credit to my account to be able to so much... does this credit give me access to torrent files?

Strange that they should charge for a service that encourages copyright theft/infringement. :|

You should get over the idea that newsgroups have anything to do with bittorrent. It's a complete different way of downloading altogether. One big difference and advantage over torrents is that you don't have to upload anything! Over time I've downloaded several terabytes from newsgroups, but I didn't upload one single byte to usenet!

This is an advantage because it is fully legal to download copyrighted video & sound files of any kind (at least in the Netherlands). The uploading part is what's illegal.

Here's a great tutorial with everything you need to know about how to get started on newsgroups:

:arrow: http://www.binaries4all.com/beginners

It may seem complicated at first, but in fact it's really easy!
Good luck!

[No.1]

^^ CHeers... i'll investigate now :good:


i see your a Heroes fan.... i can't get enough of that show at the moment 8)

[Svensson]

Yes, Heroes is awesome! And guess how I obtain all my HD Heroes episodes... Exactly, newsgroups 8)

[RC45]

And the irony of it all?

Newsgroups are the original digital commucation mechanism... they predate the Intardnetwebs :P ;)

Talk about going full circle :P hehe

[No.1]

Yes, Heroes is awesome! And guess how I obtain all my HD Heroes episodes... Exactly, newsgroups 8)

could you post here... or pm me... a good free server... and any good groups to get hold of such HD content... i'm struggling to find stuff

[TopGearNL]

And the irony of it all?

Newsgroups are the original digital commucation mechanism... they predate the Intardnetwebs :P ;)

Talk about going full circle :P hehe

Yep! :P

[Svensson]

Yes, Heroes is awesome! And guess how I obtain all my HD Heroes episodes... Exactly, newsgroups 8)

could you post here... or pm me... a good free server... and any good groups to get hold of such HD content... i'm struggling to find stuff

I would love to help you with a free server.. problem is, I don't use one myself :wink:

I got tired of working with crappy free Dutch servers which only gave me incomplete files, so I decided to get a payserver. It costs me about €6,50 each month, but the retention is 50 days and I hardly ever get incomplete files, plus I can download files at my maximum internet connection speed. A good payserver is really recommended, imo even if you don't download huge amounts of data. It's just so much more convenient to work with.

For Heroes and other TV shows, you should check out posts by NoPoints4U (http://www.binsearch.net/?max=250&g=alt.binaries.tv&a=NoPoints4U%40abmm.com+%28NoPoints4U%29)

[TopGearNL]

I bet you use Eweka, like me :wink:

[Svensson]

^ I considered Eweka, but then chose Tweaknews, because for me it was a little bit cheaper at the time.
I might try Eweka when my Tweaknews subscription ends this summer. I saw they improved their retention up to 70 days! Great stuff :D

[No.1]

Yes, Heroes is awesome! And guess how I obtain all my HD Heroes episodes... Exactly, newsgroups 8)

could you post here... or pm me... a good free server... and any good groups to get hold of such HD content... i'm struggling to find stuff

I would love to help you with a free server.. problem is, I don't use one myself :wink:

I got tired of working with crappy free Dutch servers which only gave me incomplete files, so I decided to get a payserver. It costs me about €6,50 each month, but the retention is 50 days and I hardly ever get incomplete files, plus I can download files at my maximum internet connection speed. A good payserver is really recommended, imo even if you don't download huge amounts of data. It's just so much more convenient to work with.

For Heroes and other TV shows, you should check out posts by NoPoints4U (http://www.binsearch.net/?max=250&g=alt.binaries.tv&a=NoPoints4U%40abmm.com+%28NoPoints4U%29)

cool... it seems giganews looks like a good service.

Yesterday, i got the error that alt.binaries.boneless is not availalbe on this server... do some of these groups appear only on payservers?

[Svensson]

That's another big reason to get a payserver. They support nearly all newsgroups, at least all the populair ones. Free servers often don't.
Giganews is a very good choice! Perhaps a bit expensive but they offer a lot.

[No.1]

Thx for the advice... i'll take a look around these sites before picking the most cost effective one... there is no point in paying loads for something that you can get cheaper elsewhere :)

[twboy1999]

i just join giganews

i have no idea what i am suppose to do now?


where do i download the stuff?

i need the clients or something?

[twboy1999]

finally figure out how to use it a little

here is a site about newsgroup, and how to use it

http://www.binaries4all.com/grabit/


so far i only tried the grabit client, and mabye is only grabit, but newsgroup seems so unorganize,,

[Svensson]

^ Yeah, that's the link I posted on the first page. Really informative.

Grabit is the easiest newsreader to begin with. Imo Newsleecher with its "Supersearch" function is better, but it's not a free service. The "problem" with usenet is indeed that it can be a bit unorganized if you don't know what to look for. That's why there are indexing services & communities which tell you exactly what has been posted, at what location and by what name, so it's a piece of cake to find exactly what your looking for.

@ No.1: Already found the new Heroes episode? (http://www.binsearch.net/index.php?q=Heroes.S01E21)

[twboy1999]

so with this
vinsearch.net

basically i search for what i want, and from teh result i put check marks on what i want to download and then click creat NZB rite?


^ Yeah, that's the link I posted on the first page. Really informative.

Grabit is the easiest newsreader to begin with. Imo Newsleecher with its "Supersearch" function is better, but it's not a free service. The "problem" with usenet is indeed that it can be a bit unorganized if you don't know what to look for. That's why there are indexing services & communities which tell you exactly what has been posted, at what location and by what name, so it's a piece of cake to find exactly what your looking for.

@ No.1: Already found the new Heroes episode? (http://www.binsearch.net/index.php?q=Heroes.S01E21)

[No.1]

^ Yeah, that's the link I posted on the first page. Really informative.

Grabit is the easiest newsreader to begin with. Imo Newsleecher with its "Supersearch" function is better, but it's not a free service. The "problem" with usenet is indeed that it can be a bit unorganized if you don't know what to look for. That's why there are indexing services & communities which tell you exactly what has been posted, at what location and by what name, so it's a piece of cake to find exactly what your looking for.

@ No.1: Already found the new Heroes episode? (http://www.binsearch.net/index.php?q=Heroes.S01E21)

Cheers for the heads up... still got a few eps of the first part of season one to watch :oops:

[No.1]

i just join giganews

i have no idea what i am suppose to do now?


where do i download the stuff?

i need the clients or something?

I'm thinking of signing up to Giganews... i'd be interested to hear what you think of the service, and the groups available :good:

I like the idea of a direct DL, rather than a P2P type thing

[twboy1999]

well
i am a newbie to newsgroup
so i really cant comment on if it is good or not

i just know newsgroup is very unorganize and soemtimes takes a while to find the files u want, because it is so unorganize

[Svensson]

Twboy1999,

What you need is to join something like a newsgroup community or forum, where members tell you exactly what they posted, where they posted it and under what exact filename. As you've probably experienced, it sometimes can be hard to find exactly what you're looking for, because people often post files on usenet under a "cryptic" name, or just a plain number. What a usenet community does, is provide a place where people can report what they posted or spotted on usenet, together with more info concerning the files.

A very good community in the Netherlands is FTD. It's only available in Dutch, but binaries4all have written an English tutorial on how to download the program and how exactly to use it. It's very handy!

Check it out here: http://www.binaries4all.com/ftd

[twboy1999]

svensson
thanks for the help

with FTD
the way i donwload NZB is with other user's post rite? like they will link a place where i can download the NZB rite?

[twboy1999]

anyone know any english base usenet forum? like where all the users post waht they find

[twboy1999]

i found a pretty good site

they have daily upload of NZB files

http://nzbmatrix.com/nzb.php


if anyone got goodies please share :) :D