Flat out in a C6 Z06 on a autobahn

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[Neema702]

thats such a badass car!!! the americans did good on this one.. haha...

[RC45]

7,000rpm in 5th gear - top end.

[RC45]

Whats up with all the "love" for the Z06 all of a sudden? :P

3 years ago I remember almost every member of this site fighting tooth and nail about how shit the Z06 is ;) :P

[Minacious]

Whats up with all the "love" for the Z06 all of a sudden? :P


That's what I was thinking.

[yg60m]

Wow, the speed at which he passes the trucks !! I don't imagine if they changed of line ... But it must be impressive being overtaken by a car at that speed :P

[fordgt84]

Ok its a crap car.....happy now? :P :wink:
no it isn't

[pterps]

Crazy dutchmen :roll:

It's nice to have an autobahn not far from you :D

[obdr]

I wonder what the sales figures are for the Z06 in Europe.

[gis]

Whats up with all the "love" for the Z06 all of a sudden? :P

3 years ago I remember almost every member of this site fighting tooth and nail about how shit the Z06 is ;) :P

it still is,they edited the first 10 mins of the video were it took so long to get to that speed :P :wink:

[Minacious]

That is all well and good, but those Audis are modified. It is rather silly to compare a stock car to a modified one. :wink:

[Minacious]

That is all well and good, but those Audis are modified. It is rather silly to compare a stock car to a modified one. :wink:


Its also a joke dude.... :wink:

But if we compare power they are not that far apart modified or not, and the Audis might be as much as 17 years older also..... :wink:

Come on, I knew you were joking. That is why I put the little guy winking.

[dutchmasterflex]

I wonder how long he can go flat out like that before the engine goes.. and not just with a LS7, but other engines too. Would be an interesting chart to see different engines and their maximum time before the engines rip themselves apart at max power.

[nthfinity]

That is all well and good, but those Audis are modified. It is rather silly to compare a stock car to a modified one. :wink:


Its also a joke dude.... :wink:

But if we compare power they are not that far apart modified or not, and the Audis might be as much as 17 years older also..... :wink:

Come on, I knew you were joking. That is why I put the little guy winking.

why am i suddenly reminded of the world's first 250+ mph car... a modified vette?

and... RWD is superior to AWD in road car sporting conditions ;) as is natural aspiration :P ;)

[5vz-fe]

That guy has some balls.....even with a capable car, I wouldn't dare to go 200mph in public roads.

[TopGearNL]

Cool vid, I love this car!

As far as Im concerned its one of the bargains of the century.

Before anybody says the interior is crap as usual, it isn't! Its just not up to Audi standards :wink:

[dutchmasterflex]

I have a great video produced by a good friend tthat shows Audi's dominance in road racing with their AWD touring cars.

I'll post it as soon as I learn how to make quality DVD rips. (PM me if you want to help me out ;) )

[twboy1999]

C6 z06= cool car

[RC45]

Oh boy... here we go again.

I knew the ignorant haters couldn't keep their fool mouths shut for long.

:roll:

[nthfinity]

That is all well and good, but those Audis are modified. It is rather silly to compare a stock car to a modified one. :wink:


Its also a joke dude.... :wink:

But if we compare power they are not that far apart modified or not, and the Audis might be as much as 17 years older also..... :wink:

Come on, I knew you were joking. That is why I put the little guy winking.

why am i suddenly reminded of the world's first 250+ mph car... a modified vette?

and... RWD is superior to AWD in road car sporting conditions ;) as is natural aspiration :P ;)


Audi sendt the streamliners down the German autobahn doing 270 mph in the late 1930`s.... :wink:

And awd are not as good rwd, thats why Audi ruled in rally, in DTM in IMSA and so on with quattro....weight are the only obsticle...
And its also because they wanted the formula 1 cars to be slower they changed the rules so turbos wouldnt be allowed anymore....jupp you summed it up nicely...... :lol: :wink:

since when is rally a road course?

Since when was the callaway, or any other 1000 +++ hp american V8 from a street engine, in a street car remotely related to purely designed race cars?

When people are getting the Audi Le Mans to win Le Man's in the GT1 class, in the FIA GT racing, and ALMS... i'll shoot your brand a bit more respect...

[nthfinity]

Since when is a tarmac rally anything like a road course? I stand by my statement... its much more dificult to go flat out, and much more driver + car ability, then simply car ability with a good driver.

As to the calloway... ever hear of Bonneville? tons of street legal cars are running 250 mph plus these days... we're not even talking 1988 anymore... nor streemlined cars.

As to audi dominating DTM... maybe i got into DTM late, because I recall the standing start, the audi's often qualifying near the top... 4th-6th or so, but the AWD giving the far superior launch, and still being fast enough to hold the lead? still impressive... but hardly international racing.

IMSA yes, thats here, but i guess since i only followed prototype racing in IMSA, i'm a nutter :P

The Macca' F1's top speed run was run with the limiter removed, weight removed, I've been told the engine was spec'ed up a bit, and all panel gaps had tape on them... yet somehow that was legit?

When the Audi La Mans or R8 or wahtever it's called goes into international racing, and starts winning, then the argument is settled...

No, you mistake my take on it

Audi miss the point of making a road car a great race car for already far too long IMHO. Your defence of them is as laughable as my defence of a C5 Z06's interior

where is Audi in WRC?
Where is Audi in international GT1 racing?
They stick where it's safe... at the top of LMP1 :( at least the cars become coupes next year...

[Ghostbat]

Audi dominate in the sport they choose to go for at the time, wich have been proven for decades, I dont even think you can explain your take on it.....

Are you sure Audi dominate DTM?

2006 P1 Bernd Schneider Mercedes
2005 P1 Gary Paffett Mercedes
2003 P1 Bernd Schneider Mercedes
2001 P1 Bernd Schneider Mercedes
2000 P1 Bernd Schneider Mercedes

This is just me but I wouln't call this Audi dominance.

[Ghostbat]

Audi dominate in the sport they choose to go for at the time, wich have been proven for decades, I dont even think you can explain your take on it.....

Are you sure Audi dominate DTM?

2006 P1 Bernd Schneider Mercedes
2005 P1 Gary Paffett Mercedes
2003 P1 Bernd Schneider Mercedes
2001 P1 Bernd Schneider Mercedes
2000 P1 Bernd Schneider Mercedes

This is just me but I wouln't call this Audi dominance.



Wich part of until they changed the rules to prevent Audi from dominating dont you understand?

Im just asking....

Wich part of your own qoute is wrong then ;)

Btw I know they changed the rules so no need for a new Swe vs Nor game .

[nthfinity]

Since when is a tarmac rally anything like a road course? I stand by my statement... its much more dificult to go flat out, and much more driver + car ability, then simply car ability with a good driver.

As to the calloway... ever hear of Bonneville? tons of street legal cars are running 250 mph plus these days... we're not even talking 1988 anymore... nor streemlined cars.

As to audi dominating DTM... maybe i got into DTM late, because I recall the standing start, the audi's often qualifying near the top... 4th-6th or so, but the AWD giving the far superior launch, and still being fast enough to hold the lead? still impressive... but hardly international racing.

IMSA yes, thats here, but i guess since i only followed prototype racing in IMSA, i'm a nutter :P

The Macca' F1's top speed run was run with the limiter removed, weight removed, I've been told the engine was spec'ed up a bit, and all panel gaps had tape on them... yet somehow that was legit?

When the Audi La Mans or R8 or wahtever it's called goes into international racing, and starts winning, then the argument is settled...

No, you mistake my take on it

Audi miss the point of making a road car a great race car for already far too long IMHO. Your defence of them is as laughable as my defence of a C5 Z06's interior

where is Audi in WRC?
Where is Audi in international GT1 racing?
They stick where it's safe... at the top of LMP1 :( at least the cars become coupes next year...


Well you cant get closer to racing on the road than in rally really as the race on actuall roads...
On dtm you are wrong also, or do you think that the awd system gave them such a lead that the rwd cars couldnt catch up with them for 160km hmm I must say you give the quattro system alot of credit here...... :lol: :wink:
And to say touring car racing aint international racing you really make a weak argument....

I was joking with my whole string of replies until you didnt get it, and only posted the vids of the S2`s for fun and to bring a few more vids to the thread not to insult the uber vette.....ok?
Then you bring in the sledgehammer wich was a heavily tuned almost didnt make the run on off special car who holds an record wich are not even official, and in the same breath goes about saying NA is the way to go while the sledgehammer are far from NA.....weak dude weak....

Ok so in IMSA its all about prototypes while in LeMans its to get as close as possible to road cars......ROFLMAO....oh yeah we all see what an great argument you are making here.....

I never said anything about the macca I dont even like the car, on the other hand it was an official run so its legit on the panel gaps and the engine I have only heard you talk about it so sorry for not just accepting it as facts.....

Audi dominate in the sport they choose to go for at the time, wich have been proven for decades, I dont even think you can explain your take on it.....

I dont need to defend Audi, I just need to enlighten you since you really think Audi can get such good starts that they can hold off the competition for 160 kms, your defense of the c5 z06`s interior are no need to do, its great in your eyes and you like the way it is, thats fine by me great that you settle for that not a problem for me at all.... :roll: no need to look for arguments you know.... :wink:

Audi are not in wrc at this time they made wrc what it is, then when the crowds became to big they pulled their team and moved on to dominate other series...
Audi cannot afford to support all series as im sure you are aware of racing costs money and when you always are in the front with new tech it costs more than to run a converted roadcar vette at LeMans.....

Lets see international racing in GT1 class, and if they can win, then let's see it today.

BTW, I've already proven myself to you multiple times much more then ought to be nessisary. You are simply an blithering idiot. I never said the Sledgehammer is an ideal race car, but you bring in a stupid video of a highly modified 320kph turbo audi, then i'll counter any which way you want... there hundreds of 1000+ hp highly modified american cars on the street. That video is simply a stupid stab at trying to take any credance away from how amazing the C6 Z really is... I have no idea why, but you know what...

I'm just going to start doing the same thing as you, lets see how long your "ivory tower" condisending "I was just posting that in jest" BS.

Calling me a liar is just fucking redicluous.

I've tried to be civil time and time again... but it's just pointless. Watch out, here come the superior Corvettes, and any other american car that out does europe time and time again into any and every thread I have time to hijack like you idiots keep doing here.

my argument is what is going on NOW in racing. Audi have had plenty of heritage in the past... but what exactly are they doing now that fits what I enjoy? I'm only a part of a potential market segment.... but where are they? They are in LMP1 and dominating... good for them, now move on to a less successful group (WRC anybody?) FIA GT? ALMS ? Where is the excitement in Audi's road car racing program? The RS4 would seem ideal.... until now the R8... right?

sheesh, Maybe it's just the language barrier that you aren't getting... i'm just repeating myself, and you keep touting "oh they did this and did that, and back then they were great!"

well, they were... today, where is the excitement? where are the costomer racing programs? I know its not something you can possibly imagine... but that is something I find interest in.

Never did i say the C6 R is 100% the same car as the Z06... but, they were designed side by side, and share a significant amount of technology... and much with the next SS

[RC45]

I wonder how long he can go flat out like that before the engine goes.. and not just with a LS7, but other engines too. Would be an interesting chart to see different engines and their maximum time before the engines rip themselves apart at max power.

Until you run out of gas.

The engine is designed to operate at 7,000rpm.

I seem to recall being told that during the dev cycle of the LSx motor's they run 24 hours flat out to help determine max rpm abd other design component specs.

[dutchmasterflex]

I wonder how long he can go flat out like that before the engine goes.. and not just with a LS7, but other engines too. Would be an interesting chart to see different engines and their maximum time before the engines rip themselves apart at max power.

Until you run out of gas.

The engine is designed to operate at 7,000rpm.

I seem to recall being told that during the dev cycle of the LSx motor's they run 24 hours flat out to help determine max rpm abd other design component specs.

But with an "unlimited" tank of fuel. 24hrs at 7,000rpm seems like a pretty good number.

I still wonder what the average max life of these engines, and other engines are at their max RPM.

[silentm]

^^ it's not like you will be going max RPM every day right? and imo it doesn't state much about the average life of an engine at the RPM range you would be using it 90% of the time driving. or am i mistaken?

the video is very nice, first time to see a Z06 maxed out in germany.

[nthfinity]

I wonder how long he can go flat out like that before the engine goes.. and not just with a LS7, but other engines too. Would be an interesting chart to see different engines and their maximum time before the engines rip themselves apart at max power.

Until you run out of gas.

The engine is designed to operate at 7,000rpm.

I seem to recall being told that during the dev cycle of the LSx motor's they run 24 hours flat out to help determine max rpm abd other design component specs.

But with an "unlimited" tank of fuel. 24hrs at 7,000rpm seems like a pretty good number.

I still wonder what the average max life of these engines, and other engines are at their max RPM.

RC is only partially correct with this info

GM do a 300 hour wide open throttle test on all thier engines

[RC45]

I wonder how long he can go flat out like that before the engine goes.. and not just with a LS7, but other engines too. Would be an interesting chart to see different engines and their maximum time before the engines rip themselves apart at max power.

Until you run out of gas.

The engine is designed to operate at 7,000rpm.

I seem to recall being told that during the dev cycle of the LSx motor's they run 24 hours flat out to help determine max rpm abd other design component specs.

But with an "unlimited" tank of fuel. 24hrs at 7,000rpm seems like a pretty good number.

I still wonder what the average max life of these engines, and other engines are at their max RPM.

RC is only partially correct with this info

GM do a 300 hour wide open throttle test on all thier engines

Thats the engine dyno tests right? What about the "complete car" test? I think they also bolt a car to a rolling road for 24hours flat out or something absurd.

[RC45]

That makes more sense now.

I've done a 24h race with my Clio, using the stock 2.0 16v 193hp engine, and we didn't had any problem driving always between 5500 and 7000rpm :wink: and I know Clios that have already done 3 24h races + 2 complete seasons of the regional champ where I race :wink: with the same original engine.

And then, some say french cars suck :P :D

Anyway, I have the feeling that these Corvette engines - and the Porsches too - can last forever flat-out. They just look so much reliable than anything else :wink:

But a 24hr endurance race still has yougoing up and down through the rev range and stopping for gas and tyres.. these full throttle bench tests have the engine at full throttle for the entire test duration.

(and at full throttle these LSx motors consume fuel at an astonishing rate - my 5.7l unit sucks the juice down at about 3 to 4 mpg at full throttle ;) :P :twisted: ) - which translates to about 27 minutes of driving if I am not mistaken.

[Der Abt]

The Z06 is a really fast car.
Nice video.