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thepest
04-17-2007, 08:07 PM
So, would you or would you not chip-tune you car, if given the chance to do so?

Do you recon it's overall bad for the car (engine) or rather not, even better?

blinkmeat
04-17-2007, 08:13 PM
I definitely would -- what are you looking to chip?

coloradosilver
04-17-2007, 08:14 PM
I now drive a BMW 335i coupe and have the Procede chip in it that adds about 55 hp and 75 torque to the wheels by playing with the boost, timing, injectors, air/fuel ratio, altitude consideration, and throttle response.

Absolutely no issues and I'm getting better gas mileage than before the chip was added. Couldn't be happier. :P

666fast
04-17-2007, 08:44 PM
Depends on the chip, some suck, some don't. Do your homework. If all things say it's good, then go for it.

TopGearNL
04-17-2007, 08:48 PM
I would, but only build in by a professional and no cheap shit..

thepest
04-17-2007, 08:53 PM
I definitely would -- what are you looking to chip?

Nothing in particular on my mind right now. I'm asking in general, because I've heard both sides and the guys to help me make my ming are here, so.. ;)

I now drive a BMW 335i coupe and have the Procede chip in it that adds about 55 hp and 75 torque to the wheels by playing with the boost, timing, injectors, air/fuel ratio, altitude consideration, and throttle response.

Absolutely no issues and I'm getting better gas mileage than before the chip was added. Couldn't be happier. :P

That must be a hell of a ride, especially with this chip! Share your experience :)

RC45
04-17-2007, 09:02 PM
I now drive a BMW 335i coupe and have the Procede chip in it that adds about 55 hp and 75 torque to the wheels by playing with the boost, timing, injectors, air/fuel ratio, altitude consideration, and throttle response.

Absolutely no issues and I'm getting better gas mileage than before the chip was added. Couldn't be happier. :P

How much leeway and freedom is built into the system? I know you know how the LSx series are truely custom tunable.

Does BMW let folks go as custom as the GM LSX's?

And in answer the OP'er. not just yes, but HELL Yeah.

666fast
04-17-2007, 09:51 PM
i've got a REVO chip on the TT. it's fantastic! 40hp and 77 lb/ft gain. well worth the $500.

i highly recommend chipping, HOWEVER don't ever get a cheap ECU flash, always spend extra money and get the best one you can find. It's worth it...after all your car's ECU will be altered.

Do the Revo chips have the valet mode?

coloradosilver
04-17-2007, 10:22 PM
How much leeway and freedom is built into the system? I know you know how the LSx series are truely custom tunable.

Does BMW let folks go as custom as the GM LSX's?

Unfortunately, there isn't much room for tuning for things like larger injectors, intake, exhaust, head work etc.... like I was able to with the C5.

The TT 3.0 in the BMW has fairly tight safe operating parameters so the tunability of the system is pretty confined. The chip that I'm using raised the peak boost by about 2.5 lbs, any more than that and things get a little unpredictable and way less reliable.

The CR is already pretty high for a turbo engine, and without replacing the internals, it's hard to run much more than about 400 hp and 420 torque at the crank without getting into the unsafe zone.

I've heard stories about the stock downpipe cracking at anything over and additional 2.5 lbs, so thats where I drew the line.

What can I say, I hated to see the Corvette go, but the BMW is a bit more reliable, more comfortable in the daily traffic that I have to sit in, and does much better in the snow than the Corvette ever would dream of. Just made sense to get it as my daily driver.

That being said, the C6 Z06 will also be in my garage by next spring. :D

Oh:

Ive got new rims and tires as well.

19 x 8.5 245's in front
19 x 9.5 275's in back

With the chip I'm running 0-60 in 4.57.

Will be adding the Borla exhaust system soon for a better sound and a little more power.

Q
04-18-2007, 06:35 AM
best thing is Stand Alone ECU's... like Motec

TopGearNL
04-18-2007, 08:11 AM
I just plugged in a Cobb Access Port to my STi and I think it is brilliant. aaaaaaathere are several maps available injcluding a set of real time maps I can change ont he go (i.e. valet parking, economy, top end bias, midrange bias,etc.). It is very nice. It also deciphers the check engine light codes, can be used to display realtime boost levels, coolant temp, rpm and several other bits of info.

That sounds very cool! :D

thepest
04-18-2007, 09:17 AM
I just plugged in a Cobb Access Port to my STi and I think it is brilliant. aaaaaaathere are several maps available injcluding a set of real time maps I can change ont he go (i.e. valet parking, economy, top end bias, midrange bias,etc.). It is very nice. It also deciphers the check engine light codes, can be used to display realtime boost levels, coolant temp, rpm and several other bits of info.

That is, indeed, pretty cool!

dutchmasterflex
04-18-2007, 09:30 AM
Really depends on the chip, you have to know what it actually does that alters the ECU.

But to answer the question, a chip or reprogramming the ECU is a necessity when looking for power under the hood. ECUs are programmed for economy and not peak power straight from the factory.

Erez
04-18-2007, 10:03 AM
would and have before :wink:

dingo
04-18-2007, 11:02 AM
Like I've said in previous posts, I would not just get some chip you plug in and drive off.

I want my car on a dyno and CUSTOM tuned to match it and the mods that have been done. Not some generic map that throw on because they think each Evo/STi/whatever is the same.

Ecutek1 and 2 are an example of something I wouldnt get, Tek3 is a custom tune so much better.

ViperASR
04-18-2007, 11:07 AM
I have a Porsche Performance Chip in the Porsche. It helped alot in terms of power and gas milage. Just remember that this isnt something to cheap out on, if your gonna do it, do it right and get the right part.

Dingo-It depends on the chip and the car as to wether or not you need a Dyno tune. My car didnt need a tune, but thats because the motor isnt a high strung motor like in the Evo or WRX. A dyno tune wouldnt hurt, but in my car it wasnt nessesary.

Skaala
04-18-2007, 12:51 PM
NO POWERBOX!, make sure you get a proper programming/replacement of the chip.
We chipped our old Seat Alahambra 1,9TDI (org 110hp) turned out 145whp after. Got a good reduction in fuel consumption as well.

The Q7 is also getting a Superchips chip as soon as it passes 15.000km.

Schwalbe
04-18-2007, 01:29 PM
I put an Garrett Chip on my previous B5 Audi A4 1.8T, it given me excellent performance with my K04 turbocharged that I installed. It's obvious that I recommend it for some turbocharged cars. :wink:

TopGearNL
04-18-2007, 01:37 PM
The Q7 is also getting a Superchips chip as soon as it passes 15.000km.

More power, more torque :twisted: :wink:

pagani
04-18-2007, 03:37 PM
The Q7 is also getting a Superchips chip as soon as it passes 15.000km.

More power, more torque :twisted: :wink:

If you want to go further whit engine tuning/building then you better get a stand alone ecu.
:D 8)

Q
04-18-2007, 03:58 PM
The Q7 is also getting a Superchips chip as soon as it passes 15.000km.

More power, more torque :twisted: :wink:

If you want to go further whit engine tuning/building then you better get a stand alone ecu.
:D 8)



best ECU for the Q7's 4.2 V8 is from DMS Motorsport

RC45
04-18-2007, 04:03 PM
The Q7 is also getting a Superchips chip as soon as it passes 15.000km.

More power, more torque :twisted: :wink:

If you want to go further whit engine tuning/building then you better get a stand alone ecu.
:D 8)



best ECU for the Q7's 4.2 V8 is from DMS Motorsport

or just begin with a car and engine that has a completly programmable system from the beginning.. like GM provides ;)

Q
04-18-2007, 04:08 PM
I put an Garrett Chip on my previous B5 Audi A4 1.8T, it given me excellent performance with my K04 turbocharged that I installed. It's obvious that I recommend it for some turbocharged cars. :wink:

i didnt know that garret made a chip for the VAG engines.... the best chip out there for your stock 1.8t which gaines 35+hp 30Tq is from GIAC.. and they have it for your KO4 setup too...

pagani
04-18-2007, 04:09 PM
The Q7 is also getting a Superchips chip as soon as it passes 15.000km.

More power, more torque :twisted: :wink:

If you want to go further whit engine tuning/building then you better get a stand alone ecu.
:D 8)



best ECU for the Q7's 4.2 V8 is from DMS Motorsport

or just begin with a car and engine that has a completly programmable system from the beginning.. like GM provides ;)
Orcourse rc45 you could do that.
I would go for motec or autronic or pectel or gems.
These brands are the best for stand alone ecu.
:D 8)

Q
04-18-2007, 04:21 PM
^^ i agreee with u, but for example, motec and autronic r only used for hightly modified/racing cars which have stroker kits, turboed, etc....

pagani
04-18-2007, 04:42 PM
^^ i agreee with u, but for example, motec and autronic r only used for hightly modified/racing cars which have stroker kits, turboed, etc....

Yes they are motorsport ecu's only need for cars whit proper engine tuning fast road use/competion.
Not needed on your golf tdi.
:D :)

graywolf624
04-18-2007, 07:10 PM
I would get a custom mod.. I dont like the idea of a pre speced chip.. Each car has minor differences even from factory.. It simply can't be as good as a custom option.

Otherwise yes I would.. but Id try to keep the standard tune handy if your warrentee is still good.

novass
04-20-2007, 05:29 PM
I thought about getting the Split Second boost controller for my Audi over a chip due to the fact that I could change the amount of boost as opposed to being stuck with high boost. I may still get it, but I don't expect my A4 to become a race car anytime soon without dumping tons of cash into it, which I don't want to do LOL

RC45
04-20-2007, 05:32 PM
The Q7 is also getting a Superchips chip as soon as it passes 15.000km.

More power, more torque :twisted: :wink:

If you want to go further whit engine tuning/building then you better get a stand alone ecu.
:D 8)



best ECU for the Q7's 4.2 V8 is from DMS Motorsport

or just begin with a car and engine that has a completly programmable system from the beginning.. like GM provides ;)


Like the motronic in my Audi you mean..... :wink:

Its basicly the same as a motec or simular, it seems like there are alot of simular things here.... :D

Well, if out of the box - boe stock - as delivered from the dealer - your Audi allows custom fuel mapping, ignition timing, rev limiter, torque management and other things to be adjusted and tuned to the nth degree - then yes.

Mr.Vercetti
04-20-2007, 06:21 PM
I have chipped both the Ibiza with a Revo and the BMW with the ESS chip. The Ibiza after a 1st stage upgrade provided 124bhp which is an increase of 20bhp. The Revo makes the car to respond a liiiittle bit more aggressive (Ibiza like all the VW group cars have electric pedal) which is was primarily the reason for putting it.
As for the BMW the chiping was essential after installing ESS s/c.
So yeah, I d say that if the chip is a well known and tested one then yeah why not?

pagani
04-22-2007, 07:25 AM
The Q7 is also getting a Superchips chip as soon as it passes 15.000km.

More power, more torque :twisted: :wink:

If you want to go further whit engine tuning/building then you better get a stand alone ecu.
:D 8)



best ECU for the Q7's 4.2 V8 is from DMS Motorsport

or just begin with a car and engine that has a completly programmable system from the beginning.. like GM provides ;)


Like the motronic in my Audi you mean..... :wink:

Its basicly the same as a motec or simular, it seems like there are alot of simular things here.... :D

Well, if out of the box - boe stock - as delivered from the dealer - your Audi allows custom fuel mapping, ignition timing, rev limiter, torque management and other things to be adjusted and tuned to the nth degree - then yes.


The motronic is basicly a stand alone ecu, like motec, autronic and simular so yes....they dont call it vorsprung durch technik just for fun, and the motronic alowed one to do this since the early 90`s.... :wink:

I did no knew that buth most factory ecu's are pretty limted in what they can do.
This where a stand alone ecu comes in.
:D 8)

coombsie66
07-12-2007, 11:16 PM
best thing is Stand Alone ECU's... like Motec

An entirely open ended, uneducated and uninformed post if ive ever seen one...

Best thing for what??
Best for user friendlyness, maybee

Best for processing power, no

Best for options internal to the ecu, no

Best for number or entries in fuel, spark, temperature compensation etc tables, no

Best for the ability to run the entire car's electrical systems, trip computers, climate control systems etc, ummm no

In certain instances they can be usefull, but an all encompassing statement like, a motec is best is just false.

The main issue is the lack of access codes to the factory units, otherwise tuning would be a much more financialy friendly thing!