Z4 3.0 vs. C6

[ahmedgiyab]

One of my friends asked me about this...what to buy?

The new C6 or a Z4 with a 3.0 engine (steptronic or SMG)?

I told him that the new corvette is much better in performance, but Z4 is German made...

For example, I know that the handling of the C5 was shit above 200km/h...and the handling of the Z4 is just "perfect"...

What do you guys think?!

[zevolv]

that new C6 is an ugly ass car I like the old one better those headlights look like they came off of a ferrari 360 and it's not even out yet

[gr]

If someone wanted to give me one of them, I'd take the Corvette. There's quite few newer Corvettes here in Norway, and they cost twice the price of a Z4 here (taxes on weight, hp and volume). If I was to pay for it myself I'd chose the Z4. The vette isn't twice as good as the Z4... ;-)

[ahmedgiyab]

In Dubai where I live the Corvette has the same price as a Z4 3.0...

So thats why he can't decide...

[gr]

Yeah, ok. I'd have to take some of that back. The 2.2i is half the price. The 3.0i is somewhat more expensive. Probably like 40% cheaper than a vette.

[corvette97]

Buy the corvette, much more exclusive and awesome car

[TT]

I'd take the Z4 any day :)

[Minacious]

These two cars are not even in the same class. Buy whichever one "YOU" fall in love with. Wait till the C6 comes out then get a test drive in both. Admire the lines of both cars. Check out the ergonomics and how it feels to sit behind the wheel. You will be able to tell yourself which one you want, I guarentee.

Whoever told you that the handling of the C5 is bad above 200km/h and the Z4 is perfect, lied to you bad.

I am a bit biased towards the C6 because I am a Vette guy, but the styling definately won't be for everyone. I would tell those who have based their opinion on the photos, to reserve judgement until they see the car in person. I had a friend who didn't like the look at all of the C6 from the photos. When he saw it this past week at the LA Auto Show, his opinion changed to quite the opposite and now he likes it.

I've always considered the Z3 and now the Z4 a chick car, but that is simply my opinion, nothing more. I will say, that the build quality of the Z4 will most likely be better than the C6's.

[twboy1999]

i personally hate american made car,, they just pure suck,, the only ones i like is Ford Gt and now the C6
i think it looks great exteriro, but the interior is still shitty box

but i think the performance shold be great

btw, did c6 gain weight?

[gottacatchup]

i dont quite fit in a corvette, the windsheild is too short so i'll probably take the Z4

[Vansquish]

the C6 is going to be an awesome vehicle when it finally hits the streets...and I think the styling will be easier to get used to than the "flame-surfaced" Z4...and it'll certainly be much faster.

[Hawk]

Z4 hands down I hate covettets they are big ugly american crap.

[twboy1999]

corvett c5 got smaller,, smaller then c5
so it is not american crap

WTF IS WRONG WITH ME...omg,,, i am defending an american car..NOOOOOO

[Vansquish]

hahaha...the C6 is now about the size of a 911 I believe.

[zr2man99]

The M1 Abrams tank is big and ugly, but is it crap? Ask the Iraqis.

[DeMoN]

I would choose the Z4. You cant compare the class a European car has with an American. Even though corvette is one of the few american cars I "like"

[Ivanhoe]

the z4 came last in ecoty... just a pointer :lol:

[godspeed06]

yea, the C6 is with like .1 inches off of the 911, and it lost weight. i'd get the vette it will totally rape a Z4 on the track hands down. plus, the ergonomics of the C6 are probably different from that of a C5 so you have to sit in the C6 to be sure. i'd get the C6 without thinking twice.

[Copso]

For starters, the Z4 and the new C6 are not cars that compete in the same class. The Z4 is german-desingned (not built, they make it in the USA) and its a very nice roadster and a competent sportscar, but it's performance has nothing to do compared to the new C6.

On the other hand, we have yet to see on how the C6 handles and behaves in general... For my personal way of driving and lifestyle, I'd take the Z4 over the old C5.

Having said that, if the new C6 has the same or more power than the C5 plus improved handling and finesse, added to a new rich-looking and quality-made interior, maybe I myself would take a new C6 over the Z4...

In any case we will have to wait untill september or october to make an objective comparison, since is until the when it will finally be available to the public.

[sentra_dude]

i personally hate american made car,, they just pure suck,, the only ones i like is Ford Gt and now the C6
i think it looks great exteriro, but the interior is still shitty box

but i think the performance shold be great

btw, did c6 gain weight?

Well considering that, technically, both are built in the U.S.A., one in Kentucky the other Alabama I believe, that's not the strongest argument... I know you mean that the Z4 was designed in Germany but you shouldn't say something is crap just because it is built in America, many so called foreign cars (to Americans) are built in America and they have very high quality (certain Hondas and Toyotas).

Personally, I am usually one to go with the European offering, but in this case I would pick the C6. The Z3 was notorious for its horrid handling, and I don't think they have completely ironed that out of the Z4. It has a good engine but other than that it doesn't have many redeeming aspects IMO. It's ugly, overpriced, the Z3 had sub-par reliability, and it's not all that fast in comparison to the C6.

[yg60m]

For starters, the Z4 and the new C6 are not cars that compete in the same class. maybe the Z4 is german and its a nice roadster, but it's performance has nothing to do compared to the new C6.

On the other hand, we have yet to see on how the C6 handles and behaves in general... For my personal way of driving and lifestyle, I'd take the Z4 over the old C5.

Having said that, if the new C6 has the same or more power than the C5 plus improved handling and finesse, added to a new rich-looking and quality-made interior, maybe I myself would take a new C6 over the Z4...

In any case we will have to wait untill september or october to make an objective comparison, since is until the when it will finally be available to the public.

I agree they are not in the same catogory except the price in Dubai.
The C6 performs certainly (much) better than the Z4 as it's lighter and more powerfull than the C5 that already outperforms the Z4. I think it will have good roadholding to compete with recent european realisations and the C5 wasn't that bad even when tested by european magazines (the americans were pretty eulogistics on the C5, especially the Z06 wich won several comparative tests).
Despite all this i would choose the Z4 because it's a BMW and because i like the design.

[WhiteP]

Corvette cos I hate BMW :( especially the new design

[RC45]

This is a funny comparison.

No really - funny.

[callen]

http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/merismus/as/autoshow2004/photos/l_4Corvette-f-1.jpg
http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/merismus/as/autoshow2004/photos/l_4Corvette-eng.jpg

Is there any question?!? :lol:

http://www.bmw.ca/automobiles/images/models/Z430i_ext2.jpg
http://www.bmw.ca/automobiles/images/models/Z430i_int2.jpg

[ahmedgiyab]

I think that the Z4 after 10 years will remain a BMW...but the Corvette by that time will be the same as all other US cars...

In the long-term its important to focus on quality...(I think!)...may be I'm wrong!

The same as the 156 GTA and the BMW 325i for example(almost the same comparison)...sometimes the look dominates!

[graywolf624]

"I think that the Z4 after 10 years will remain a BMW...but the Corvette by that time will be the same as all other US cars... "

50 years of history say your wrong.

[HeilSvenska]

We'll have to wait for the new M roadster to really make this comparison (although it would be pointless) I would opt for the C6 not only because I would look more manly in it than in Z4. Z3 & hairdresser anyone?

[graywolf624]

I thought they weren't making another m roadster?

[godspeed06]

I think that the Z4 after 10 years will remain a BMW...but the Corvette by that time will be the same as all other US cars...


that is just pure ignorance so i'll let you slide without completely flaming your ass. the corvette has more heritage than just about any car and has a bigger following than just about any car. the corvette owners buying loyalty is one of the best in the industry.

[RC45]

I think that the Z4 after 10 years will remain a BMW...but the Corvette by that time will be the same as all other US cars...


that is just pure ignorance so i'll let you slide without completely flaming your ass. the corvette has more heritage than just about any car and has a bigger following than just about any car. the corvette owners buying loyalty is one of the best in the industry.

Thank you.

[RC45]

"I think that the Z4 after 10 years will remain a BMW...but the Corvette by that time will be the same as all other US cars... "

50 years of history say your wrong.

What other single car model (not make but mode), has been around this long - and remained true to purpose and heritage?

[zr2man99]

"I think that the Z4 after 10 years will remain a BMW...but the Corvette by that time will be the same as all other US cars... "

50 years of history say your wrong.

What other single car model (not make but mode), has been around this long - and remained true to purpose and heritage?

Absolutely fucking nothing. The C6 will be kick ass.

[ahmedgiyab]

I did not mean Heritage...

The BMW will run after 300,000km.....because its German :)

But what about the corvette????

My dad had a 1996 Impala SS (with a LT1 engine) after 130,000 miles the we had to change the whole gearbox!!! :x

But the engine was great!

[graywolf624]

"dad had a 1996 Impala SS (with a LT1 engine) after 130,000 miles the we had to change the whole gearbox!!!
"

That depends alot on the transmission they use. The camaro trannys for the lt1 engine(93-97) were bullet proof.

The 97+ camaro ones went with a different manufacturer and it was less strong.
They don't make their own trannys so you can't judge them on that.

[tabh]

i have a caprice cop car with a lt1 it has over 330,000 miles and it runs like a champ :lol:

[ahmedgiyab]

I'm not judging them...it just not usual with a BMW...

Changing the gearbox in any car is something that costs! This gearbox was used for the C4 as well.

This is simply my opinion! I know that the C6 and the Z4 doesn't fall in the same category, but its a hard choice because the BMW has a better brand name!

[Leo_M3]

You guys are also missing a very crucial point....

In 2005 when the C6 will be released, the new BMW 3 Series will be out and that introduces a new generation of BMW straight six engines. Which the Z4, 5 Series and 6 Series will get.

These engines will be more powerful, more economical and more eco-friendly.

So its very hard to judge....if you are buying the car in 2005 the Z4 will look the same but have new stuff under the bonnet, the engines in the Z4 were introduced in 2001, BMW update their straight sixes every 4 years or so.

The Z4 is still using the same engine the Z3 3.0 used and the new 5 Series is using that same engine.....as well as the old 5 Series...

The new engines will be a VERY welcome addition to the BMW arsenal.

Also romours are going around that the next generation 3 series will be available with the 3.5 V8 you can find in the current generation 735i.

So maybe the Z4 might get it.......not likely but its posible :)

[ahmedgiyab]

They say that the new 3 series will have a 3 litre turbocharged engine with 300bhp.

It will be 330ti...and of course the new M4 with a V8... :)

[coloradosilver]

I currently have a C5 (you can see a pic of my engine in my avatar) and it will outrun, outhandle, outbrake, and flatout outperform a Z4 any day of the week. The build quality of the Z4 may be better and a more plush interior, but the corvette isn't designed to be a luxury car, it's all about the performance. When it comes to bang for the buck, it's hard to beat!

[Leo_M3]

They say that the new 3 series will have a 3 litre turbocharged engine with 300bhp.

It will be 330ti...and of course the new M4 with a V8... :)

lol it defintely wont be called the 330ti.

ti is what BMW uses to define their compacts which arent available in USA.

BMW compacts are known as ti eg: BMW 318ti

[BACR]

z4 any day. fantastic roadster that just has complete style and so much grip. soz but z4 over the c5

[jinxed84]

c6 hands down, i think the stock one has the 400hp LS2 now. thats just nutty. a new c6 would walk a z4 all day long. yes yes the z4 is german made, and i love bmws.....but cmon 180hp difference.

[adlinyusman]

I'd go for the C6 if you were considering the performance. But if i wanted a cruiser, i'd take the Z4 anyday. I may not be in the same league as the C6, but at least i can take roof down when the sun is shining...

[zevolv]

"I think that the Z4 after 10 years will remain a BMW...but the Corvette by that time will be the same as all other US cars... "

50 years of history say your wrong.

What other single car model (not make but mode), has been around this long - and remained true to purpose and heritage?

Absolutely fucking nothing. The C6 will be kick ass.

I would have to say that the Mustang is pretty damn close to it by ten years and besides a three year absense the thunderbird has always been a sporty cruiser.

[RC45]

I would have to say that the Mustang is pretty damn close to it by ten years and besides a three year absense the thunderbird has always been a sporty cruiser.

Another Einstein to the rescue... ;) THAT is why we are saying that NO OTHER car model comes close with an UNINTERUPTED LINEAGE.....

The Thunderbird changed target market very much during it's life - then failed - then was reborn as a retro throw back...

The Mustang will always be 11 years younger... that's the thing about age - you can never catch up... ;)

[ahmedgiyab]

What about the BMW 507 roadster? It dates back to the 50's as well!

OK, maybe the Z4 is not "grandson" of the 507, but the 507 is a legend!

http://www.bmwworld.com/models/vintage/507.htm

Only 252 were made...and its still a legend! It was a symbol of the "rich and famous" in the 50's...

I agree that the Corvette changed the "car history"...it created a unique style that time, which became a lifestyle!!!

[graywolf624]

Not to mention the tbird is slated for the axe this year.
If you think the mid 80s tbird was a sporty cruiser I have some swamp land in florida to sell you.

As for the mustang you have the first issue being that it was over 10 years later. Then you have the issue of did it maintain its history. Should I bring up the Mustang II with the 13 sec 0-60 times?

[MPoweredKid]

i'm a huge BMW fan, but i would have to say go with the C6.

[RC45]

What about the BMW 507 roadster? It dates back to the 50's as well!

OK, maybe the Z4 is not "grandson" of the 507, but the 507 is a legend!

http://www.bmwworld.com/models/vintage/507.htm

Only 252 were made...and its still a legend! It was a symbol of the "rich and famous" in the 50's...

I agree that the Corvette changed the "car history"...it created a unique style that time, which became a lifestyle!!!

I'd give that one to you if they kept making the 507 every year for the last 50 years - not even changing it's name ... ;)

[zevolv]

Not to mention the tbird is slated for the axe this year.
If you think the mid 80s tbird was a sporty cruiser I have some swamp land in florida to sell you.

As for the mustang you have the first issue being that it was over 10 years later. Then you have the issue of did it maintain its history. Should I bring up the Mustang II with the 13 sec 0-60 times?

Considering the fact that they just introduced new thundebirds for next year and the fact that the mustang II was just that a different Mustang while there was still the original mustang and the T-bird form the 80's was a decent car they had turbocharged engines or a 5.0 V-8

[dis3as3d]

The C6 is badass no doubt, and its performance is on par with MUCH more expensive cars. Its build quality and Interior finish is not. The Z4 is MUCH slower, but has a much better build quality. If the buyer is a driver he would get the Corvette.

[astonmartinandy]

I think the choice just rally comes down to what you want from the car. No-one is denying that the Corvette will be faster and then are claiming that it will be able to turn as well now (which is a bonus) but then again the z4 will still have the handling and be a better all round car.

Are you a muscle car v8 guy or a sophisticated v6 person?

[zevolv]

Straight 6 not V6!


Sorry can't stand it when that happens :(

[ahmedgiyab]

4 speed aut. for the new C6????!!!!!

Its insane! Still they are using a 4 speed auto? Why can't they replace it for a 5speed at least?!

or

a possibility to shift from the steering wheel....

[zevolv]

GM has a "Paddle" shift setup and it sucks ass that probably why and Most people that buy a Corvette don't get autos anyway

[adlinyusman]

just saw the C6 on the cover of road and track....looks awesome. Would by it in a minute.

[aawil]

Well there too completely different cars really. I don't like the Z4 at all. The S2000 would get my vote in the small roadster category.From what I've heard the Z4 isn't a very impressive car in the handling department either. Not to mention German reliability is a myth not sure if it pertains to BMW as much but they've had there problems.I think the C6's performance will speak for its self.

[ahmedgiyab]

i think with this 4speed auto. they are stucked in the 80's...

In the previous model, the C5 should have had at least a 5speed one!

I need an explanation for this!!!

Please someone tell me why?!

[godspeed06]

i don't care if the vette has a three speed on the column... anyone who buys an auto corvette gets what he deserves. never buy a automatic sports car. just don't do it. friends don't let friends drive autos.

[tabh]

if you bastards would read you would know that gm tried to use the jag 5 speed auto but the ls2 being as badass as it is had too much torque for the damn thing so they had to stick to the 4 speed :shock:

[tabh]

sorry i forgot to mention how much the z4 sucks ballz compared to the new vette or even the old vette :mrgreen:

[ahmedgiyab]

You guys forgot the main topic...its not a comparisom between the Z4 and the C6...

They don't fall in the same category! The Z8 vs. C6 would be nice to compare because both has 400bhp!

The question is which one to buy if they have the same price???

[graywolf624]

"Considering the fact that they just introduced new thundebirds for next year and the fact that the mustang II was just that a different Mustang while there was still the original mustang and the T-bird form the 80's was a decent car they had turbocharged engines or a 5.0 V-8"

I hate to break it to you but your wrong on both accounts. The Mustang II was the name of the mustang in the 70s. There was no different mustang from 74-78. The 13 sec 0-60 was actually the fastest of these cars in I believe 78. The car was based on the pinto. It is as much a mustang as the sn95. If you want to argue against that then the mustang has existed for 4 or 5 less years right there and Im sure a case can be made to cut out a few other years. We wont talk about 79-81.

As for the tbird they were only turbocharged in a few years and perhaps you should look up the performance numbers. The fact that they had fixed roofs will also tip you off that they have changed. Also funny but I havent seen anything about a new tbird. I did read fords announcement around september that said the ford tbird was being cut for lack of sales and to protect collector value. http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosinsider/0304/22/a01-144063.htm

Ford is in financial straights and is closing off their niche cars. ITs just a fact of life. I'd rather that then the threat of bankruptcy be realized(they really are that close).

[bmwdakias]

ok they are not in the same category but if their prices are equal then things change. My brother owns a 2001 Z06 and it is a really good car.handling is great,looks are exotic and it is very fast the only drawback of the car is the interior but as far as i know the c6 has hugely improved interior. Definetly the c6 is more impressive to look at and not girly at all where as the z4 is stil a bit girly like its predescesor. I would easily choose the c6 as its great value for money,faster and better looking than the z4.