enzo crash

[number77]

http://cbs2.com/video/[email protected]

[RC45]

hmmm - which one is the stan?

[nthfinity]

before any of the goofy fanboys pop up, (Lexion, Rammus)

Stupid Americans can't drive for shit! :P :P :P :P :mrgreen: :spaz:

[RC45]

before any of the goofy fanboys pop up, (Lexion, Rammus)

Stupid Americans can't drive for shit! :P :P :P :P :mrgreen: :spaz:

Maybe it was a kitcar Enzo....









..based on an Audi :P

[StanAE86]

Check this out! Eddie Griffin crashed an Enzo!

http://cbs2.com/video/[email protected]

<you've been Stan'd>

:lol:

[number77]

hmmm - which one is the stan?
Sorry about that. I just figured the Ferrari fans didn't usually visit this section. I editted that post and tried to delete it but it wouldn't let me.

:)

[number77]

Check this out! Eddie Griffin crashed an Enzo!

http://cbs2.com/video/[email protected]

<you've been Stan'd>

:lol:
I am sorry.
:)

[StanAE86]

no no...I'm just playing. I dunno what the heck. sorry, bad joke gone worse. :wink:

[ViperASR]

hmmm - which one is the stan?

IDK whats going on anymore :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes:

[5vz-fe]

my eyes......

Well, at least the brakes and engine still works ..... poor enzo

[crasherror]

What a sad sight? SAVE THE ENZOs.
http://shop.gawker.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=JLT01

[Mers]

HAH am i the only one who found that scene hilarious??

[twboy1999]

haha
holy shit

eddie griffin look scared as fuck

that dumbass cant drive for shit

and why the hell is the pilon so close to the wall at the first place anyway
poor enzo

[blinkmeat]

Just when you think Griffen couldn't be more of a useless twat :roll:


what's he doing with this kinda money anyway he sucks

[twboy1999]

what money
is not his car

he isnt even that popular

[HeilSvenska]

EVERYONE involved in that stupid movie Redline must be set on fire NOW. :x :x :x

I'd laugh if Eddie Griffin were shot dead tomorrow.

Yes, I'm that horrible.


hmmm - which one is the stan?

*haha. I just moved my rant here.

[Minacious]

The Enzo, valued at around $1.5 million, was owned by the film's executive producer, Daniel Sadek, whose exotic car collection was featured in the movie.

Sadek said the car was beyond repair and that he had "mixed feelings" about the wreck.

"I'm glad Eddie came out of the crash OK, but my dream car got destroyed," Sadek said. "I went to my trailer for about 15 minutes and I thought, there's people dying everyday. A lot of worse things are happening in the world."

[HeilSvenska]

THAT SOB?!?!?!?!? He deserves to BURN. He destroyed his Carrera GT on purpose for that STUPID MOVIE! He deserves every bit of this. Mwahahahhahahhahahahhahhahahhahah!!! But not the car. The cars didn't deserve this at all... poor cars... suffering under stupid rich people... not smart, well-driving rich people...

*Sorry about the words with caps. I'm just very angry right now.

[ae86_16v]

On the local news, Eddie said he hit a cone and it got stuck underneath the front wheels so he was unable to turn. That's why he hit the wall.

[fsandys]

That was horrible to watch! :(

[gucom]

damn that sucks :?

[saadie]

:lol: nice one .. i like how the nose lifted about 45 degrees :lol: :|

[ViperASR]

:lol: nice one .. i like how the nose lifted about 45 degrees :lol: :|

I like how the guy behind the wall looks like hes gonna shit himself.

[ViperASR]

On the local news, Eddie said he hit a cone and it got stuck underneath the front wheels so he was unable to turn. That's why he hit the wall.
:bs:


If you look at the vid closely and listen to it, that is far from what happend, it was merely driver error. The cone he hit flys off to the left of the car, so thats not what caused it to understeer. If you listen and watch, you see the car begin to understeer, then he jumps on and off the throttle casuing it to understeer even worse, then he hits the wall. Then its bye bye enzo :bye:

[qt50006]

:cry: :cry: :cry:

[5vz-fe]

RWINDALE, California (AP) -- Eddie Griffin crashed a rare Ferrari Enzo worth $1.5 million into a concrete barrier while practicing at a racetrack Monday, destroying the car but escaping uninjured.

The comedian was practicing for a charity race to promote his upcoming film, "Redline," when he drove too fast around a curve at the Irwindale Speedway. Video footage showed the red sports car screeching before it ricocheted off the barrier with heavy damage to its front.

"Undercover Brother's good at karate and all the rest of that, but the brother can't drive," Griffin, referring to one his past films, said after the accident.

The film's publicist, Wendy Zocks, said Griffin was "doing OK."

"He walked away completely unscratched, but probably a little shaken," Zocks said.

The Enzo, valued at around $1.5 million, was owned by the executive producer of "Redline," Daniel Sadek, whose exotic car collection is featured in the movie.

Sadek said that the car was damaged beyond repair and that he had "mixed feelings" about the wreck.

"I'm glad Eddie came out of the crash OK, but my dream car got destroyed," Sadek said. "I went to my trailer for about 15 minutes and I thought, there's people dying every day. A lot of worse things are happening in the world."

Only 400 Ferrari Enzos were ever produced, all between 2002 and 2004.

Griffin's credits include the comedies "Undercover Brother"; "Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo" and its sequel; "Date Movie"; and "Norbit."

[philip]

So the dip shit didn't even wreck his own car. What an idot (owner and driver). Yes its always the brakes (cones) fault when you cant stop in time.

[LEXION]

Ah damn it, like there arent enough problems in the world :x

I hope Eddie works for free now...for the next 25 years, to pay that car! Ferrari's shouldnt have been shipped to USA, to many sunday drivers :(

[chest3r]

It might be because of the video ( we can't see the whole track ) but that really seems bad driving. What an asshole !!! :x

It might not have hurted him, but it did hurted me :roll:

[LEXION]

another vid:

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/news/new-video-of-eddie-griffins-ferrari-enzo-fender+bender-247371.php

[r2r]

^^ That video shows much better at what happened.

I don't know if I should laugh at that idiot or cry for the car.

[5vz-fe]

Well, as much as him being an idiot, the autox setup has some issues as well.

[Svensson]

On the local news, Eddie said he hit a cone and it got stuck underneath the front wheels so he was unable to turn. That's why he hit the wall.

Sounds like a lame excuse to me.. You can clearly see that both the front wheels are in full contact with the road and that they're turned in full lock to the right.

Looks to me like he entered the corner way to fast and understeered right into that wall. Even Enzo's & Bridgestone Potenza's have grip limits..

[TopGearNL]

Well if he is blaming a cone, where is it? :bah:

[Svensson]

^ Up his ass, that's why he was driving so bad :?

[fordgt84]

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaahhahahaha

[silentm]

HAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA HAHAHHAHAAHAHAAH

i can't help myself... :roflmao: which dumbass would let an amateur go round that track on his own. omg he totally deserved it. this just made my day :D :D

oh yeah and that enzo looked like it wanted to take off like a rocket. fucking pwnt i say

[nthfinity]

Ah damn it, like there arent enough problems in the world :x

I hope Eddie works for free now...for the next 25 years, to pay that car! Ferrari's shouldnt have been shipped to USA, to many sunday drivers :(


LMAO, I knew this comment would come LOL

Lexion, you know that over 1/2 of ALL ferrari sales come to the US, right? by that nature, wouldn't more Americans have the opertunity over time to have better driving skills with a Ferrari since more people have an opertunity to drive them? :P

Those comments are just too funny, I woudn't be surprised if he'll never drive one ... lol

[MidEngine4Life]

I cant imagine what he was thinking. I guess like Hamster says, some people out there think the richer you are the better you drive. At least they can save the engine, but man that was horrific to watch. Clarkson couldnt stand to see a Zonda scrape, I think he'd be in tears over this vid.

[Mers]

someone should buy the wreck and make a second P4/5 of it..

Someone who CAN drive, please

[nthfinity]

someone should buy the wreck and make a second P4/5 of it..

Someone who CAN drive, please

I can tell you with absolute, and 100% certainty, that there won't be a second P4/5

[bmagni]

lol, that was stupid... don't people get that you should never let anyone drive your car ??

[ae86_16v]

"I was coming around the track and came into a tight turn and I hit a cone and the cone got caught underneath the tire. So the tire locked up and … slammed into the wall," Griffin told CBS News.

http://www.showbuzz.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/27/people_hot_water/main2611916.shtml

[HeilSvenska]

And? What ever the reason, he should still BURN.

[HeilSvenska]

Who is Eddie Griffin?
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/date_movie/eddie_griffin/datemovie1.jpg

[novass]

Ferrari's shouldnt have been shipped to USA, to many sunday drivers :(

LMFAO Grow up dumbass.

[SPEEDKILLAR]

"I was coming around the track and came into a tight turn and I hit a cone and the cone got caught underneath the tire. So the tire locked up and … slammed into the wall," Griffin told CBS News.

http://www.showbuzz.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/27/people_hot_water/main2611916.shtml


WTF, the asshole is posing on it, fucking douchebag :roll:

[tanelvali]

why are you all so upset. this is just another PR trick and this crash was carefully planned and controlled. why would one put barriers just a few feet away from quite sharp turn? why is the guy, filming on the other side of barrier not even remotely frightened, just stands there and calmly films the "accident". Everybody is also very happy after the crash.. great stuff, they should put this to their movie. and maybe destroy some other enzos as well so more people would got to see the movie..

[HeilSvenska]

^^LOL Doesn't help though. I know the face is somewhat familiar, but I just don't know who the heck he is and after the Enzo crash, I don't really want to :lol:

He's just a C-list celebrity. Which means his movies are met with low low low expectations. He often plays a ghetto pimp. He was also the man with the dog in the beginning of Armageddon . "Little Richard! Little Richard!"

[philip]

Does the Enzo have ABS? It looks totally locked up going into the barrier.

The damage looks totally repairable, but the owner says its totaled. After all there going to fix Stephans Enzo.

Enzo insurance just went up.

Totally lame. This guy is now famous for 15 seconds.

[bmagni]

Does the Enzo have ABS? It looks totally locked up going into the barrier.

Seems that he was pushing - understeering - the car rather than braking...

i say he did it on purpose as par of a publicity stunt, seriously, not many people knew about the movie and now news all over the world covered the crash... besides its repairable...

[nthfinity]

Does the Enzo have ABS? It looks totally locked up going into the barrier.

Seems that he was pushing - understeering - the car rather than braking...

i say he did it on purpose as par of a publicity stunt, seriously, not many people knew about the movie and now news all over the world covered the crash... besides its repairable...

As I've found out, the PCH Erikson Enzo is being rebuilt, and the Houston TX. Enzo has been rebuilt as well, retaining the original vin... and some of the other enzo's have been rebuilt.

According to a friend who knows, This enzo is very reparable.

[LEXION]

Ferrari's shouldnt have been shipped to USA, to many sunday drivers :(

LMFAO Grow up dumbass.

very ''grown up'' of you....I guess some cant express themselfes on the forum anymore. Its good the car crashed, lets crash them all, to make some users happy and meanwhile lets ship all the cars to America , and give them to incompetents drivers to play dodgems :|

[nthfinity]

Ferrari's shouldnt have been shipped to USA, to many sunday drivers :(

LMFAO Grow up dumbass.

very ''grown up'' of you....I guess some cant express themselfes on the forum anymore. Its good the car crashed, lets crash them all, to make some users happy and meanwhile lets ship all the cars to America , and give them to incompetents drivers to play dodgems :|

while we're at it, lets speak of the crashed enzo in Nice, and the one in Italy, and how they shouldn't ship Enzo's to people in either Italy, nor France (nor russians) Because that is exactly where your logic points towared. Lets see you back it up.

[LEXION]

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/enzo/index.shtml

all the crashed Enzo's, except this one...look how many crashes happened in USA, more than half of them were crashed there :wink:

[nthfinity]

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/enzo/index.shtml

all the crashed Enzo's, except this one...look how many crashes happened in USA, more than half of them were crashed there :wink:

wait wait, don't tell me

more then 1/2 of all teh Enzo's delivered are in the USA

go figure!

[LEXION]

well than...you still have over 199 to crash...that should make you happy :?

[nthfinity]

well than...you still have over 199 to crash...that should make you happy :?

when was the last time you were in a Ferrari, when is the next time?

Is a ferrari meant to be driven, or to look at?

Last time I was in a Ferrari (http://nthimage.com/Detroit/events/Drive_11_05_06.htm)

and the next time I'll be in one is this coming Sunday.

I personally have met 3 Enzo owners, and know of two more, all who haven't crashed thiers, yet most of them put mile after mile on them.

I'm curious, what makes you the way you are regarding Ferrari's, and American's with Ferrari's? I know Romania isn't exactly an economic powerhouse... so move to where there is money, or, god forbid, why not try and become an entrapanuer yourself?

[novass]

Ferrari's shouldnt have been shipped to USA, to many sunday drivers :(

LMFAO Grow up dumbass.

very ''grown up'' of you....I guess some cant express themselfes on the forum anymore. Its good the car crashed, lets crash them all, to make some users happy and meanwhile lets ship all the cars to America , and give them to incompetents drivers to play dodgems :|

Why should I bother to properly express myself when met with such a biased and uninformed comment? I never said I was happy that the car crashed either, in fact I am quite sad as that means there is one less on the roads. But as far as Ferraris being in America, you obviously don't know as much as you would like to think you know about the brand. What experiences do you have first hand with Ferraris? I restored vintage Ferraris and worked on modern Ferraris for over 2 and a half years yet there is still a lot I have to learn about the history. So tell me what it is that you know that I should listen too. Did you know that Luigi Chinetti convinced Enzo to open the first Ferrari dealership in America? Did you know that shortly after opening he formed the North American Racing Team (N.A.R.T.) and the success of both was a huge factor in funding Ferraris road car development and success? No probably not, so why don't you just sit back and continue to make broad generalizations with no actual substance and only bias behind them.

[philip]

When a Ferrari gives up its life, it needs to be at 200 mph. Not lame like this one. At least the Malibu and Utah crashes were worthy of the car.

[nthfinity]

When a Ferrari gives up its life, it needs to be at 200 mph. Not lame like this one. At least the Malibu and Utah crashes were worthy of the car.

did you know the Enzo actually produces significant amounts of front end lift at speed?

[philip]

When a Ferrari gives up its life, it needs to be at 200 mph. Not lame like this one. At least the Malibu and Utah crashes were worthy of the car.

did you know the Enzo actually produces significant amounts of front end lift at speed?

No I didn't. The F40 is rock solid at speed. Does it have ABS?

[nthfinity]

When a Ferrari gives up its life, it needs to be at 200 mph. Not lame like this one. At least the Malibu and Utah crashes were worthy of the car.

did you know the Enzo actually produces significant amounts of front end lift at speed?

No I didn't. The F40 is rock solid at speed. Does it have ABS?the Enzo? it has various settings of braking in ASR, traction control, and ABS, from wimpy, to aggressive depening on what you set on the manatino.

Also, the Enzo has a lot of low pressure behind the car, which reduces the amount of downforce available even at speed across the rear.... some cars do it better, others worse.... others don't have that as a goal (CGT for example)

[tforth]

I know an enzo isn't as pointy (i.e. have as much front end grip) as a CGT, but that was excessive understeer!

BTW, the lift/down force comment above only becomes relevant at speed, right...

Lastly, I agree with philip, in that an autocross is no place for any supercar.

[nthfinity]

I know an enzo isn't as pointy (i.e. have as much front end grip) as a CGT, but that was excessive understeer!

BTW, the lift/down force comment above only becomes relevant at speed, right...

Lastly, I agree with philip, in that an autocross is no place for any supercar.

the Enzo's radiator is very far forward, and of course, that does hurt its angular momentum (ability to change direction and point its nose well.

but, as I was browsing some racing forums, they unanimously agree that Griffen was going way too fast for entry into that corner, considering the type of surface he was autocrossing on... a parking lot is very different to a race track in how the granulars interact with the tire compound....

Keep in mind, the wider the tire, the more the car will bolt with undulations in the road, the less steering feel there is... and is harder to break teh grip of the rear tires, which have a wider contact patch.

That said, the speeds he entered that turn, the second the tires lost grip, he kept turning into the turn, rather then trying to catch the understeer, and restore grip. Once the tires lost thier grip, braking effect would be greatly reduced as well.

yes, the d/f doesn't start affecting the car's balance much til higher speeds (as speed dubbles, forces of the air quadrouples)

[Stoopie]

again, stupid :(

[ViperASR]

I know an enzo isn't as pointy (i.e. have as much front end grip) as a CGT, but that was excessive understeer!

BTW, the lift/down force comment above only becomes relevant at speed, right...

Lastly, I agree with philip, in that an autocross is no place for any supercar.

the Enzo's radiator is very far forward, and of course, that does hurt its angular momentum (ability to change direction and point its nose well.

but, as I was browsing some racing forums, they unanimously agree that Griffen was going way too fast for entry into that corner, considering the type of surface he was autocrossing on... a parking lot is very different to a race track in how the granulars interact with the tire compound....

Keep in mind, the wider the tire, the more the car will bolt with undulations in the road, the less steering feel there is... and is harder to break teh grip of the rear tires, which have a wider contact patch.

That said, the speeds he entered that turn, the second the tires lost grip, he kept turning into the turn, rather then trying to catch the understeer, and restore grip. Once the tires lost thier grip, braking effect would be greatly reduced as well.

He was also in a decreasing radius corner, which induces understeer if you dont know how to take it properly. If you look at what looked like a previous run, he barely made the corner. He was merely pushing too hard.

As soon as he entered the corner he was f***ed, there wasnt much he could have done. IDK how good the brakes are, but the thing to do would have been to let the wheel strait, then jump on the brakes, but IDK if that would have helped.

The racing surface was a race track. Its the Irwindale Speedway where they do the D1 drifting and alot of other racing events. This was certenly no parking lot. Saying that though, it did not look like there was alot of rubber on the track, nor did it look like the track was set up very well.

[philip]

The car looks locked up all wheels, no ABS, just sliding, other wise I felt he would have gone into the barrier at more of an angle, but your right he could have almost had the wheels at their maximum and there is no way at that speed ABS or not the front tires could have picked up any traction.

Course was not laid out well, with apparently a long straight follow by a decreasing radius 90 degree corner with a concrete barrier with what appears to be only 20 feet away. Not smart with lame driving equals national news coverage.

Car is pretty strong, looks like it moved the barrier 2 inches. The angle at the bottom of the concrete barrier and the angle of the wheel, alowed some of the energy to be disipated vertically, saving the car a little.

[Andrew]

few people have been starting to talk about how fake it is now and all being a publicity stunt.
Hoax Eddie Griffin Enzo CL65 - Fast Lane Daily - 28Mar2007 - YouTube

[TopGearNL]

^^ That guy must have been shitting his pants :lol: