BMW M3 e92

[tom333]

The M3 concept has been unvieled at Geneva!!!!!!

[Iwan]

yep...here we go


http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_geneva/0703_z+2008_bmw_m3_concept+front.jpg

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_geneva/0703_z+2008_bmw_m3_concept+front_corner.jpg

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_geneva/0703_z+2008_bmw_m3_concept+profile.jpg

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_geneva/0703_z+2008_bmw_m3_concept+rear_corner.jpg

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_geneva/0703_z+2008_bmw_m3_concept+detail.jpg

[Iwan]

yep...here we go


http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_geneva/0703_z+2008_bmw_m3_concept+front.jpg

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_geneva/0703_z+2008_bmw_m3_concept+front_corner.jpg

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_geneva/0703_z+2008_bmw_m3_concept+profile.jpg

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_geneva/0703_z+2008_bmw_m3_concept+rear_corner.jpg

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_geneva/0703_z+2008_bmw_m3_concept+detail.jpg

[Iwan]

http://www.autoblog.nl/images/wp2007/autoshows/geneve/BMW%20M3%20concept%20%284%29.jpg

http://www.autoblog.nl/images/wp2007/autoshows/geneve/BMW%20M3%20concept%20%2813%29.jpg

http://www.autoblog.nl/images/wp2007/autoshows/geneve/BMW%20M3%20concept%20%2835%29.jpg

[inso]

http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?p=791402#791402
more info.

[Just_me]

http://www.automanias.nl/photos/wallpapers/BMW%20M3-2.jpg
http://www.automanias.nl/photos/wallpapers/BMW%20M3-3.jpg
http://www.automanias.nl/photos/wallpapers/BMW%20M3-1.jpg
http://www.automanias.nl/photos/wallpapers/BMW%20M3.jpg

[MIHALS]

:drool: in the end it still looks badass :twisted:

me want one :mrgreen:

edit: just realized - is it just me, or the rear wheels look too small? :?

[Ghostbat]

me want one :mrgreen:

+1

[ferrari550]

Awesome Car!! damn i want one

[ae86_16v]

Hey Look at the mirrors, similar to my E36 M3s, weird fender grills, hood vents too.

I still don't like the front bumper!

[ae86_16v]

:drool: in the end it still looks badass :twisted:

me want one :mrgreen:

edit: just realized - is it just me, or the rear wheels look too small? :?

Looks like BBS RCs from the CSL to me. If not very similar.

[Stoopie]

That looks great! I really like the new 3-series coupe, and this M3 looks very promising :D

[Just_me]

Very large images. HIGH-RES.


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BMW M3 Concept

Its very name is a symbol for unique performance on the racetrack and in everyday traffic. For two decades, BMW M3 has embodied the athletic heart of the brand in its most fundamental and succinct form. Its dominating role in motor sports and the ultimate driving experience it affords the driver on the road are inseparably intertwined. The qualities on which this synthesis is founded have given the BMW M3 the exceptional status it enjoys the world over. At BMW M GmbH, engineers have persisted in continuing this success story with the presentation of the new BMW M3 Concept Car. The concept study being presented to the public for the first time at the 77th International Motor Show in Geneva (8th to 18th of March, 2007) gives a first impression of what a future BMW M3 might look like.

The basic form for the BMW M3 Concept Car is a derivative of the new BMW 3 Series Coupé. The few components adopted directly from the series model are the headlamps and taillamps and, as the only body elements, the two doors and the luggage compartment lid. In all other respects, the BMW M3 Concept Car, which is being presented in the Chrome Shadow finish characteristic of BMW M GmbH concept studies, is obviously an individualistic and athletic vehicle with technology at the focus of its engineering.

Individualistic body concept with emotional aesthetics.

In keeping with tradition, the engineers at BMW M GmbH developed the BMW M3 Concept Car as a fundamentally individualistic vehicle. The level of commitment to this approach is clearly demonstrated by its body. While it is based on the dimensions and the underlying form of the BMW 3 Series Coupé, virtually all body elements have been newly developed and designed from the ground up. Apart from the supporting vehicle structure, only the doors and the luggage compartment lid were taken over from the series model. All other components were specially engineered for the BMW M3 Concept Car, lending the vehicle exterior unique aesthetics that accentuate its superior power. Unmistakable features that make the BMW M3 Concept Car instantly recognisable are the special trim at the front and rear, the engine compartment lid with its bulging Powerdome and two air intakes, the lateral air slots in the front side walls, the side skirts and the exterior mirrors in a BMW M typical design.

Front with additional air intakes, engine compartment lid with Powerdome.

Faithful to the principle of “form follows function” in designing the body for the concept study, designers at BMW M GmbH used elements that not only visually emphasise the increased sportiness of the vehicle, but also serve a technical purpose. Conspicuous at the front are three large air intakes below the cooling grille that supply the engine with additional intake and cooling air. Strong, vertical struts delineate the air intakes and enhance their characteristic form.

The aluminium engine compartment lid exhibits a wide bulging curvature known as the Powerdome. Like the air intakes beside it, the Powerdome suggests the great potential that can be expected of a powerplant in the engine bay of a BMW M3. The M3 Concept Car features a high revving V8 engine that is anticipated for the series car once it goes into production.

The contours of the Powerdome and air intakes are in line with the forward-pointing sweep of the engine compartment lid and harmoniously blend into the overall design of the front, which is longer than that of the BMW 3 Series Coupé. Together with the double kidney grille typical of BMW and the flat headlamp units, they lend the BMW M3 Concept Car a highly dynamic character.

Wheel arches and side skirts communicate agility and stability.

The muscular front wheel arches of the BMW M3 Concept Car symbolise the high level of agility and driving stability achieved by this vehicle. Together with the forged 19-inch light alloy rims in the classic Y-spoke design, they emphasise the vehicle’s wide track, while a glance through the spokes of the rims reveals the compound high performance brakes developed exclusively for M vehicles.

The opening behind the wheel arch on the front side wall, which the designers refer to as gills, has an elaborate three-dimensional form that is split by a discreet chrome bracket containing the direction indicator and the M3 logo.

Two arched surfaces form the pronounced side skirt, creating a purposefully designed contrast between light and shadow. By giving the side wall a lower appearance, the side skirt lends the car a lighter, sportier look from this angle. The incidence of light on the likewise sharply defined rear wing and wheel stresses the dynamic character of this vehicle and visually highlights its rear-wheel drive.

The design of the side skirt corresponds with the shape of the strongly pronounced contour line. The play of light and shadow between the parallel contours of the skirt and contour line brings about a tightness in design that emphasises the individual character of the BMW M3 Concept Car even more strongly.

Exclusive exterior mirrors developed for the BMW M3 Concept Car feature the characteristic black double foot that reminds the viewer of the wings of an aircraft. Even this small detail is in keeping with the principle of “form follows function”. With their horizontal contour line and tapered shape toward the outside, the exterior mirrors not only contribute to the overall impression of the vehicle, but their aerodynamic shape, optimised in a wind tunnel, is advantageous to air resistance values.

Wide track, muscular stance – rear design emphasises dynamic performance.

The rear of the BMW M3 Concept Car picks up on the design of the car’s front. The side lines gradually sink toward the rear and the wings end in a modelled hollow flute, emphasising the rear-wheel drive and visualising the superior dynamics of this vehicle. From any angle, the rear creates the impression of a pronounced wheel orientation and a muscular stance. Its proportions lend it confidence and a calm yet powerful impression. A visually discreet spoiler lip on the luggage compartment lid, also called a Gurney flap, optimally channels the air at the rear and additionally reduces lift on the rear axle.

The contours of the diffuser, whose design is subdivided by modelled struts, mirror the shape of the air intakes at the front. The diffuser and the double exhaust tailpipes positioned close to the vehicle’s longitudinal axis appear to pull the rear together at the centre and build up a tension in conjunction with the horizontal lines of the bumper. The tailpipes have a round cross section and are cut off vertically, as is typical for BMW M GmbH engineering.

Exclusive roof with visible carbon fibre structure.

There is hardly a body element in the BMW M3 Concept Car that exhibits the level of advanced technology as clearly as the roof. It is constructed of carbon fibre reinforced plastic (CFRP). Specialists at the BMW Plant in Landshut, Germany, rely on an exclusive production method in which the structure of the Formula 1 material remains visible and the finely structured surface is only coated with a layer of clear finish.

As a highly visible advanced technology component, the CFRP roof dominates the technically innovative appearance of the BMW M3 Concept Car. Seen from the side, it lets the roof edge appear flatter and thus lowers the perceived body height. Apart from the exclusive appearance, the CFRP roof also offers a real technical advantage: It is considerably lighter than a steel roof. This not only reduces the overall vehicle weight, but by reducing the weight of the highest element in the body, the centre of gravity is lowered as well. Thus, the reduction in weight at this location is particularly beneficial to the agility and dynamic performance of the vehicle.

The CFRP roof is a perfect example of how interlinking technical innovation with an individual design strategy was central to the development of the BMW M3 Concept Car. Following the tradition of the previous three generations of the BMW M3, this concept study represents a high performance sports car interpreted for use in everyday diving, with its every detail being yet another example of the objective pursued by the engineers. The BMW M3 Concept Car is a vision that shows where striving for the ultimate driving experience will take us in the future.

BMW M3 Highlights

* Concept study of a BMW M3 by BMW M GmbH, dimensions and fundamental form based on BMW 3 Series Coupe, exclusive new engineering of almost every body element, purpose-built for individualistic form and maximum sporting potential.
* At the core of this concept study is an M3-typical V8 engine tuned to the high revving M concept.
* Front design conveying a high performance sports car, functional execution of the front apron and engine compartment lid, a robust Powerdome and large air intakes that express the vehicle’s superior drive power, particularly voluminous air intakes for ample air supply to the engine compartment through the elimination of fog lamps, typical of M, and a front apron in a pronounced forward position that symbolises the car’s motoring spirit.
* Sharply defined wheel arches, gill-shaped openings in the front side walls with an elaborate three-dimensional design typical of M cars, and chrome brackets with integrated direction indicators.Characteristic M-brand side skirts providing the side view with an energy-laden accent, visual emphasis of the rear-wheel drive and car’s wide track, 19-inch light alloy rims with the characteristic Y-spoke design, exclusive exterior mirrors with an aerodynamically optimised design.
* Rear design with horizontal lines accentuating the car’s wide track, pronounced wheel orientation as a symbol of its powerful stance, rear diffuser that mirrors design elements of the front apron, balanced proportions underlining the BMW M3’s supremacy, M-typical double tailpipes arranged toward the centre of the vehicle.
* Intelligent lightweight construction that directly influences the vehicle’s agility and dynamic performance, aluminium engine compartment lid.
* Side walls made of synthetic material and CFRP roof that optimise weight distribution and centre of gravity, visible CFRP roof construction as an additional design element, emphasis of flat silhouette and high tech character of the vehicle.

[ae86_16v]

^ Thanks for hte additional Info Just!!!

[dutchmasterflex]

I knew they were hiding something nice underneath all that camo on the hood ;)

Wish they kept the same styling as the M5 for the front bumper though. Oh well, I'd still take one if given to me :P

[ae86_16v]

Yeah, I don't like the front bumper either. . . I think the M Sports Package bumper on the regular 3 Series looks better.

[deuces]

front bumper really annoys me. diffuser looks like a bit of an afterthought. power dome looks too big. however...cf roof looks great. even though they had a trend with the gills on the e46 m3 and e60 m5, i like the gills on this one. i'm mixed on this, not sure if i'd get it.

[bmagni]

the rear view mirrors are too cool ! the wait was worth it...

[Skaala]

I don't like the "mess" above the tailpipes, but I love the bonnet bulge... maybe someone will cut a hole, and make a shaker-hood..LOL

[ARMAN]

I dont know chaps but this evokes 0 emotions in me just as m5 :| in flesh it will be different i hope

[MIHALS]

ARMAN, I'll ask Jabba to BAN you!!! how BMW lover can say this?

on the other hand SPEEDKILLA loves it

WTF GUYS???

world's going backwards :?

:mrgreen:

[ARMAN]

just as i said 2 minutes ago to you on ICQ i dont feel older at all but this is have no emotions just like porsches from 996 till now, 997 is sure nice and all but still without aftermarket addons(exhause, wheels and so) they are tasteless :| the "magic" is no more there, ofcourse I talk about my opinion based on exterior view I never drove any of those cars.

[ae86_16v]

I dont know chaps but this evokes 0 emotions in me just as m5 :| in flesh it will be different i hope

Definitely not like the E46 M3 did when I first saw it. Then again, the E46 3er was a much better looking car than the E92 3er as well.

I remember saying the same thing with the E30 M3, E36 M3, and the E46 M3: "Damn, this is a nice car. It looks soooo good."

[MIHALS]

just as i said 2 minutes ago to you on ICQ i dont feel older at all but this is have no emotions just like porsches from 996 till now, 997 is sure nice and all but still without aftermarket addons(exhause, wheels and so) they are tasteless :| the "magic" is no more there, ofcourse I talk about my opinion based on exterior view I never drove any of those cars.

you're right for sure :?

the developement goes further and it's true the glamour of the "supercars" of 10 years back is gone... it's new era, engines are smooth in low revs (veyron), not like :hmm: my V6 320i :mrgreen:

[philios55]

BMW M3 is back and it looks great and I'm sure it will be even greater to
drive :!:

Collection of photos of the new BMW M3:
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[saadie]

the back looks like something toyota would've come up with
and whats with e39 m5's rims ?

[ae86_16v]

and whats with e39 m5's rims ?

E46 M3 CSL which are a model of BBS RCs wheels.

[saadie]

they look the same :? .... ohh well

[ae86_16v]

i find it very ugly, that body flaring is a MESS, really nasty.......makes the Audi S5 look so much better.

ROLL ON RS5 :mrgreen:

Actually no, the A5/S5/RS5 still looks ugly. :)

Just because this car doesn't look great, doesn't make the A5 series looks any better. :D

[Pokiou]

Ok .. nice front .. i have alway sloved the front appeal of a BMW and the side air vents.. but the arse looks like an AUDI !!

any1 else with me on this one.

[gangajas]

I don't like the exterior too much....but the interior is much worse, especially that gearknob, is horrible!!!!

[TopGearNL]

Looks great, especially with the E46 M3 CSL rims! :D

[ae86_16v]

Looks great, especially with the E39 M5 styled rims! :D

E46 M3 CSL

I don't like the exterior too much....but the interior is much worse, especially that gearknob, is horrible!!!!

All the new BMWs have somewhat bland interiors. Personally I didn't like it after they removed the "driver oriented" center console.

[TopGearNL]

E46 M3 CSL

My bad :oops: :lol:

[rave426]

I like that it looks like a more focused vehicle! Look like BMW may be taking the M3 to a level that the E30 did. Enthusiast drivers and not whore posers.

Dammit, now I gotta change my avatar!

[Pokiou]

Looks like an audi.

i love the front just not the rear.

[5vz-fe]

Looks like an audi.

i love the front just not the rear.

U mean Audi looks like a BMW....just look at the new A5 coupe. They probably just bought a E92 and rebadge it.

[inso]

the developement goes further and it's true the glamour of the "supercars" of 10 years back is gone... it's new era, engines are smooth in low revs (veyron), not like :hmm: my V6 320i :mrgreen:

Never seen bmw v6, could you show some pictures ;)

[MIHALS]

well ok, I mean 6 cylinders :oops: :wink:

[blue8]

I love this car!! :shock: It's the most aggressive ///M car to date! The rims are a little generic though... not very unique

[Just_me]

dont forget this is a concept car, whats there to stay on the final production we dont know yet

[coombsie66]

I love it, good job BMW M division, i just hope that its as good dynamically, and that they havent 'electrified' everything to the extent that the car feels remote from the driver. I cant help thinking that mechatronics engineers are just going up their own arses in the automotive industry these days... (in short, it better have a manual box!) :wink: 8)

[ae86_16v]

dont forget this is a concept car, whats there to stay on the final production we dont know yet

Yeah, what do you think will survive to the real production car?

Carbon Fiber roof? The hood vents? The CSL wheels?

I remember the M5 Concept was pretty close to the production one right? I can't remember anything being changed at least aesthetically.

[ae86_16v]

I knew I remember the E92 M3 Front Bumper from somewhere:

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9519/282008isfxq8.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=282008isfxq8.jpg) http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2462/062008isfnh3.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=062008isfnh3.jpg)


http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2015/bmwm3concept20071600x12pv8.th.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bmwm3concept20071600x12pv8.jpg) http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6105/bmwm3concept20071600x12nk8.th.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bmwm3concept20071600x12nk8.jpg)

Now did Lexus copy BMW or was it the other way around ;) .

[fordgt84]

i'm all for the alcantara steering wheel but pleeeeease get rid of that gearknob, i like those csl style rims (cuz i loooove the csl)...and this car is not only a sports car it's a muscle car as well...V8 engine, manual transmission, 2 doors seats at least 4...muscle car !! :lol:

[Shinigami]

Not excited.

[Svensson]

I agree with Captain Slow here... It looks even better today than it did yesterday :D

And I really like this gunmetal grey colour that BMW uses on all of its M-cars. In my opinion it's definately the best colour for this car. Any thoughts about this colour being available for customer cars too?

[momodels]

Looks gorgeous :shock: :twisted:

[Just_me]

short soundclip from the show

http://www.autoblog.nl/archive/2007/03/07/autoblog-video-bmw-m3

[blue8]

It's just been a day, but the car's already a cover star: :!:
http://www.evo.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_429/car_photo_214596_12.jpg

[r2r]

I knew I remember the E92 M3 Front Bumper from somewhere:

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9519/282008isfxq8.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=282008isfxq8.jpg) http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2462/062008isfnh3.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=062008isfnh3.jpg)


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Now did Lexus copy BMW or was it the other way around ;) .

Its interesting that you show this comparison, because I feel equally the same about both cars…

…and I really dislike this Lexus :wink:

[Mr.Vercetti]

And here you can find the whole BMW press conference (M3 included).. V8 at its best!!

http://www.thomson-webcast.net/de/dispatching/?event_id=1ab92807de0d01fcfce895e292b8a4f4&portal_id=a8b733a18ac19c5d85b033f2eba223e9&language=en

[Shinigami]

Having seen the interior pics, I have to say they look downright horrible. I really hope it won't look like that in the finished product.

I don't know if the camera was overexposed or what, but the slab of CF around the shifter with the different coloured 'hard' looking plastics and totally dull contours and sh1tty basic looking stereo makes it seem like it was built from the parts bin from 20 years ago.

It's like "My first BMW" or something with those huge dull looking plastic bits.

I really hope it looks better then that when I see it tomorrow.

[chest3r]

As I said in the other topic, I wasn't expecting it this, but I really like it.

It's somehow weird that they've used the old M3 CSL wheels in a completely new model. The wheels are great but since it's a new car BMW should have done new wheels. I read somewhere that the production model might not have these wheels, since this car has semi-slick tyres :roll:

Anyway, the only thing I really don't like is the side mirrors. I might get used but now, I think they're ugly.

[SPEEDKILLAR]

Don't like the sound that much(for now), like a series of farting :?

[chest3r]

^^ Yeah it's quite different from the awesome old metallic M3 CSL sound. The engine is a V8 now, so the sound had to be different. It's not much different from an M5. But I wich it was more like a 430 V8 :roll:

[Just_me]

Having seen the interior pics, I have to say they look downright horrible. I really hope it won't look like that in the finished product.

I don't know if the camera was overexposed or what, but the slab of CF around the shifter with the different coloured 'hard' looking plastics and totally dull contours and sh1tty basic looking stereo makes it seem like it was built from the parts bin from 20 years ago.

It's like "My first BMW" or something with those huge dull looking plastic bits.

I really hope it looks better then that when I see it tomorrow.

the interior of the Concept car will be better on the final product. You wont see the final version tomorrow so your opinion wont change tomorrow.

BTW this car on the show is hybrid between the upcoming M3 and M3 CSL.

[Bernardo]

the car looks awesome..aggressive as every ///M. Its impressive..every time I see an M model flying nearby my heart just starts beating faster and faster and then I start thinking holycrap..BMW´s are way better in flesh than in pictures.Anyways, i love this car..exept for the sound..fews strange.

This CF interior trim sux.really.it looks REALLY bad..in flesh or in the pics..really, really bad..but nothing that a black piano wood cant do to fix completely the car interior.

[ae86_16v]

BTW this car on the show is hybrid between the upcoming M3 and M3 CSL.

Ah I see, so things like the CF Roof will probably be on the CSL like the E46 instead of the regular M3.

[TopGearNL]

I liked the old CSL sound better, more music to my ears.. :|

[Mr.Vercetti]

BTW this car on the show is hybrid between the upcoming M3 and M3 CSL.

Aaah.. dont think so. Maybe some features are going to be in the csl but the concept resembles almost 99% the production model just like in the case of the M5 and the Z4C.

[Just_me]

BTW this car on the show is hybrid between the upcoming M3 and M3 CSL.

Aaah.. dont think so. Maybe some features are going to be in the csl but the concept resembles almost 99% the production model just like in the case of the M5 and the Z4C.

but I know its a hybrid between upcoming M3 and CSL. But it doesnt mean the final version wont look like this.

But the interior will be more clean and stylish than those pics we saw earlier. So if people think thats it then they are fooling themselves.

[inso]

Hi, this is my first post here.
I just came from our dealer. He is just doing the "Ersthändlerausstattung" for the M3. That means he is ordering the dealer car for display in the showroom.
I saw some specs:
Tires back: 265/40 18"
Tires front 245/40 18"
19" are optional
CFK Roof is standard
Xenon
6 Speed manual (no DSG available at the moment)
8 Colours will be available (some grey shades, white, black and a very redish colour)
Leather is optional

source : m3board

[fordgt84]

But I wich it was more like a 430 V8 :roll:
nooooooooooooo r u kidding?!! let the muscle car sound stay :D

[Just_me]

Hi, this is my first post here.
I just came from our dealer. He is just doing the "Ersthändlerausstattung" for the M3. That means he is ordering the dealer car for display in the showroom.
I saw some specs:
Tires back: 265/40 18"
Tires front 245/40 18"
19" are optional
CFK Roof is standard
Xenon
6 Speed manual (no DSG available at the moment)
8 Colours will be available (some grey shades, white, black and a very redish colour)
Leather is optional

source : m3board

did you found that quote on germancarzone posted by me? :D

[inso]

I found it at zatzy´s :)

[TopGearNL]

^^ Love the pic with the red light falling onto it, reminds me of the M5 when it was introduced. Also like the close-up of the badge!

[ae86_16v]

One of the best design ques I like from this car is the belt line crease that runs from the taillights all the way into the side gills. That's pretty good.

Well that's something good for the car ;) .

[Svensson]

Those shots by James May are awesome :o
It looks even better there than in the official BMW press-release pics!

[Just_me]

I found it at zatzy´s :)

Im Zafiro over there :D are you from sweden?

[obdr]

-the "power bulge" looks artificially big......like its actually bigger beyond serving a purpose.......which makes me hate it. What are they trying to compete with here, a WRX Sti ???

-The front fender looks pretty bad. Its too high off the ground. Just doesnt flow.

- Its still Bangled up which I hate (the only Bangle BMW that looks great is the M Coupe so far)

- I have the side skirt looking thing. It looks like something the aftermarket would do

-The interior looks like crap (saw some spy shots). I much prefer the older E46 style.......I HATE the new 5 series/ M5 interior design and it looks like the 3 series got similar treatment.....not nearly as nice a place to be as BMW's of old......ugh.

dont like the side vent design...........again, it looks aftermarket.

Hate the shark fin arial.....always have.

As much as I was hoping this next M-3 would crush the audi RS-4 I now have my doubts. Damn it too because Im not the worlds biggest fan of the RS4.......oh well.

If I were in the M-3's price range I'd have just cancelled my order, looked at the RS-4 for a split second before dismissing it as overweight, plain looking, lacking a bit in torque and really not such a hot car for serious track work.......strongly considered a nicely speced up Cayman S before strolling down to the Chevy dealer to look at the Z06 for about an hour.......and then gone down to Nissan and placed an order for the next Skyline GTR.......

[tom333]

.................o.k. :roll:

[Just_me]

I think its funny people make up their mind about a concept car and when the final specs isnt even out yet.

also intresting to see what people said about M3 E46 Concept year 1999, here are a few examples:
its to "ricey"... why 4 exhausts!! not sure about the silver side gills, looks over done.. what's with that hood bulge!...cars to big... im keeping my e36!

I see the same pattern here. Im certain many people (not all) will change their opinion on the new M3 once its been out on the market for a while.

[Igorionia]

Roadfly.com 2008 BMW M3 Concept from Geneva Auto Show - YouTube

very agressive and beautiful car
I'm glad that one of the first spyshots "black e92 with CSL wheels and this type of hood" was REAL. I heard lot of people said that that's just photoshop and it's not real ,but as we can all see now - year (or even more) ago that car was build. And tested to be in best shape right now.
Sorry I cant find this pix right know. But it's not necessary as we all can see real pix right now
So The car is Beautiful. And v8 is good engine. I'm glad that BMW made that choice.
Enzo Ferrari didn't liked v8 or v6 aswell, But right know we all can see that not only v12 is good enought to be in Ferrari!

[Shinigami]

I was quite disappointed in the car when I saw it in person. I prefer the E46 much more, and so did a friend of my boss who has an M3 and came to the show all the way from california just to see the new one.

In the end, he said that the new RS4 cabrio was much more impressive looking and all that.

*shrug*

[Igorionia]

http://www.autospies.com/images/uploads/large/SP32-20051121-103619.jpg
Here it is!
Was posted in 2005/11

[Just_me]

I was quite disappointed in the car when I saw it in person. I prefer the E46 much more, and so did a friend of my boss who has an M3 and came to the show all the way from california just to see the new one.

In the end, he said that the new RS4 cabrio was much more impressive looking and all that.

*shrug*

so your point is that everyone thinks like you and your friend?
I know people that find the SLK to be an ugly car but it doesnt mean everyone think so.

[Just_me]

Was posted in 2005/11

the picture is photoshopped and not made by BMW.

[Igorionia]

Was posted in 2005/11

the picture is photoshopped and not made by BMW.

I don't want to start discuss Is it or is it not. The Question HOW HARD it was photoshopped?
Anyway The Idea of this photoshop Year ago was exactly the same as this car looks right know.

[Shinigami]

I was quite disappointed in the car when I saw it in person. I prefer the E46 much more, and so did a friend of my boss who has an M3 and came to the show all the way from california just to see the new one.

In the end, he said that the new RS4 cabrio was much more impressive looking and all that.

*shrug*

so your point is that everyone thinks like you and your friend?
I know people that find the SLK to be an ugly car but it doesnt mean everyone think so.Are you able to take any criticizm, or are you just another BMW fanboy?

I said it was MY opinion. "I" was disappointed in the looks, and so was the guy who was with me.

Funny how even on BMW forums, the number of people who dislike the looks of the new M3 versus those who like it, is much, MUCH higher.

If you like it, good. Happy for you. Do I give a sh1t that there's people who think the SLK is ugly. No, I don't give a sh1t. You however seem to give a fuck that someone on an internet forum found the new M3 to look like crap. Get the fuck over it.

jesus :roll:

[ae86_16v]

also intresting to see what people said about M3 E46 Concept year 1999, here are a few examples:
its to "ricey"... why 4 exhausts!! not sure about the silver side gills, looks over done.. what's with that hood bulge!...cars to big... im keeping my e36!

I see the same pattern here. Im certain many people (not all) will change their opinion on the new M3 once its been out on the market for a while.

Evolutions moves on with or without you. But I always liked the E46 M3 when it came out. Haha, if you talk to some of the older folks, they still believe that the E30 M3 is the only true M3.

Which they do have a point. With each successive generation, the 3er has gotten bigger and fatter. And associated with that is an increase in horsepower. But weight is always a negative factor in terms of sports cars no matter the increase in horsepower. There is no denying that the E36 M3 was softer compared to the E30 M3. And likewise, most if not all would agree that the E46 M3 was definitely softer than the E36 M3.

When I say "softer" I do not only mean cushier suspension, and more weight, but it definitely have a negative disconnect with the car and driver. Which in the end is what it is all about, the Connection with you and the car.

We will see what happens here. I am happy that the BMW keep the weight of the E92 chassis close to the E46 and stiffened it a bit as well. So at least the trend doesn't continue as much as pervious generations.

[Just_me]

I was quite disappointed in the car when I saw it in person. I prefer the E46 much more, and so did a friend of my boss who has an M3 and came to the show all the way from california just to see the new one.

In the end, he said that the new RS4 cabrio was much more impressive looking and all that.

*shrug*

so your point is that everyone thinks like you and your friend?
I know people that find the SLK to be an ugly car but it doesnt mean everyone think so.Are you able to take any criticizm, or are you just another BMW fanboy?

I said it was MY opinion. "I" was disappointed in the looks, and so was the guy who was with me.

Funny how even on BMW forums, the number of people who dislike the looks of the new M3 versus those who like it, is much, MUCH higher.

If you like it, good. Happy for you. Do I give a sh1t that there's people who think the SLK is ugly. No, I don't give a sh1t. You however seem to give a fuck that someone on an internet forum found the new M3 to look like crap. Get the fuck over it.

jesus :roll:

so when someone ask a question you being rude and also mention fanboys. So to proove your points you talking about others and their opininons just to prove your point.

jeus :roll:

and no, I havent said I like it or dislike it. God, what a sad attitude some people have. 29 years old and act like this, oh my oh my.

[Just_me]

also intresting to see what people said about M3 E46 Concept year 1999, here are a few examples:
its to "ricey"... why 4 exhausts!! not sure about the silver side gills, looks over done.. what's with that hood bulge!...cars to big... im keeping my e36!

I see the same pattern here. Im certain many people (not all) will change their opinion on the new M3 once its been out on the market for a while.

Evolutions moves on with or without you. But I always liked the E46 M3 when it came out. Haha, if you talk to some of the older folks, they still believe that the E30 M3 is the only true M3.

Which they do have a point. With each successive generation, the 3er has gotten bigger and fatter. And associated with that is an increase in horsepower. But weight is always a negative factor in terms of sports cars no matter the increase in horsepower. There is no denying that the E36 M3 was softer compared to the E30 M3. And likewise, most if not all would agree that the E46 M3 was definitely softer than the E36 M3.

When I say "softer" I do not only mean cushier suspension, and more weight, but it definitely have a negative disconnect with the car and driver. Which in the end is what it is all about, the Connection with you and the car.

We will see what happens here. I am happy that the BMW keep the weight of the E92 chassis close to the E46 and stiffened it a bit as well. So at least the trend doesn't continue as much as pervious generations.

Unfortuanly all new cars are getting heavier but luckily they get more powerful and improved in the handling department but at the same time the driver involvement might be erased a little bit.

Ps I still like the M3 E46, until the final look of M3 E92 and the final specs have been revealed M3 e46 is my favorite, hopefully it changes later. :D

[obdr]

So whats the cost gonna be then??

If its anywhre near $70,000 then it will be in the same price point as the new Skyline GTR.

It seems it will also be in the same price point as the Corvette Z06 (actually. more expensive then the Z06).....which will probably destroy it in terms of performance (and exterior styling).....but of course the M3 should destroy it in terms of build quality and interior.........oh hold on, the interior on the new M3 is HORRIBLE......so build quality then. Ugh.

Is it just me or has BMW forgotten that M cars are suppossed to be about understated performance???? Used to be that you could buy an M-5 or M-3 and not be embarrased taking it to the office and parking it alongside the other CEO's and middle management types........now it seems other CEO's will chuckle. The latest M-5 and M-3 are WAY to flash and aggressive looking in my humble opinion. BMW is forgetting what most people who buy M-3's and M-5's want.........a conservative looking car that is anyhting else under the hood and out on the track.

Remmeber the old M-5. Apart from the wheels and the exhausts it hardly looked different to a regular 5 series to the untrained eye. Only petrolheads would know what you were actually driving. It was for the man or woman who wanted serious performance but needed to keep a refined and conservative image for whatever reason.

Please correct me if Im wrong on this one.

[blue8]

I'm not really sure about this, but I heard from some place, that this M3 concept might actually be the M3 CSL, thus explaining it's more-than-usual aggressiveness compared to typical M cars. It's also a possible explanation for the bland interior. It even has the CSL rims on it! It is a little predictable if this concept were the actual standard E92 M3 concept because they already did that with the M5 concept back in 2004. Who knows :?:

[rave426]

The M3 has alwasy been and will be a more "refined" car than the Z06.....but build quality - I doubt that.

What ppl dont understand is that American cars may not be the most quiet or the most comfortable but American cars are built to take some shit! We keep in simple and sturdy. The lastest BMW's have actually been plagued with stupid electrical problems because of the technology so I hope the fix that with the new M3.

[TopGearNL]

^^ Exactly, I would like my car to beat the other cars, not just have a better interior...!

[Sir_GT]

I'm sure this will look better in the metal.

Unfortunately though, so does the RS4 and the RS5.

Audi wins on design. I wonder how much better this car will be over the last M3.

[ae86_16v]

Seriously though, the interior looks like any other regular E92 or E90 to me. Did I missed something?

M Cars never had any special interiors. Usually red guage needs and a few extra guages at best. Oh yeah, and don't forget about the all important M emblems here and there.

[gangajas]

Interior of the new M3 without all the carbonfibre:

http://i11.tinypic.com/47k1pb4.jpg

[chest3r]

^^ Really ?! Looks quite normal to me :roll: and those seats doesn't look sporty at all :?

[Ghostbat]

^^ Really ?! Looks quite normal to me :roll: and those seats doesn't look sporty at all :?

They look like "standard" BMW sport seats so they are rather sporty.