Pagani Zonda R

[ae86_16v]

:shock:

Rumors of a high-po track version of the capable Pagani Zonda have materialized as true today in the form of official looking pics and info on the Swedish website Sportbilen.se. No translating utility we could find was able to decipher the site's cryptic native language, but we've picked out what we can and combined with knowledge from elsewhere on the net can tell you that the Zonda R will feature a 750bhp V12 engine likely sourced from Mercedes that also produces 523 ft-lbs. of twist. The current king of Pagani's stable is the Zonda F, which produces 594 hp in stock trim from a Mercedes 7.3L V12. From the pictures it is also clear that the Zonda R will be longer and lower than current models and be fitted with a number of aero enhancements to keep it sucked to the ground at high speeds. Chances are it will probably lighter, as well.

Clearly the Zonda R takes after such exclusive track cars as the Ferrari Enzo FXX and Maserati MC12. It will likely be produced in numbers even more limited than a standard Zonda and purchasing probably comes from invitation only. Street legal? Not likely.

[Source: Sportbilen.se]

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/02/zondar_1468.jpg

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/26/geneva-preview-pagani-zonda-r/

[Svensson]

That sounds great, but they have to make it street legal! 8)

[Z3uS]

Isn't it street legal?

[silentm]

that hting looks like it means serious business. maybe it will be a GT version? that would be cool!

[TopGearNL]

Insane car!

Love the specs but unfortanetaly its just gonna be like the FXX?

[Svensson]

^ Street legal? Not likely.

[Z3uS]

^ Street legal? Not likely.
:oops:

I only read the specs to be honest...

[Caplax40]

Looks like a newer version of the Zonda Monza.

[rave426]

At that height, driving it on the street would be an expensive endowment.

Its great how Pagani cars are so much cooler than anything Ferrari or Lambo has.

[ae86_16v]

At that height, driving it on the street would be an expensive endowment.

Its great how Pagani cars are so much cooler than anything Ferrari or Lambo has.

^ I gotta admit that is true. The Zondas are really really cool cars 8) .

[chest3r]

Wow!! I just can imagine how it will sound :o Can't wait to hear that thing !!!

[novass]

That sounds great, but to make it better, they should give me one!

[deuces]

oh baby cant wait

[SPEEDKILLAR]

Amazing how much power they can extract from that oll' Benz AMG powerplant 8)

[Max Power]

lol, they're going to keep milking their design for as long as ppl keep buying it...why not create something new

[TopGearNL]

/\/\ If only that was a road-version! :twisted:

Thanks Dani!

[nthfinity]

wow....how to take an ok looking exotic, and make it look ugly...

At least the elements added are finally functional. I'm no fan of this cars rear flat, cab VERY forward design. What is nice about the likes of the Enzo, and MC12 is they are more designed from the start as something like a race car... where the F40 was basically a race car... with many subsequent successful racing versions even competing semi-successfully against the newer, faster McLaren F1 race cars...

I think its unfortunate that Ferrari have gone so far away from making winning racing cars besides the Formula 1, and one-make-race experience. The MC12 met with only so much success against the other teams from the US, and Europe... not so bad when one starts off with pure racing technology... but perhaps not good either?

In conclusion... Me no likey, and Zonda is already backed up with a severe bottle neck of production... I think Heratio should invest enough to start being able to build 40-50 cars a year rather then 11-13 cars a year. :(

[Z3uS]

Wow! Thanks for the pictures, dani. It looks completely awesome :twisted:

[666fast]

The MC12 met with only so much success against the other teams from the US, and Europe... not so bad when one starts off with pure racing technology... but perhaps not good either?

In conclusion... Me no likey, and Zonda is already backed up with a severe bottle neck of production... I think Heratio should invest enough to start being able to build 40-50 cars a year rather then 11-13 cars a year. :(

The restrictions imposed on the MC12's really didn't help during the short period it raced here. It literally had no chance to win. Which didn't matter, since it wouldn't be awarded points.

Low production keeps prices and demand high, Mr Pagani isn't stupid. :lol:

I wouldn't expect to see this race anywhere, at those kind of production numbers, it wouldn't meet homologation rules. The engine is too big for forced induction as well.

[rave426]

wow....how to take an ok looking exotic, and make it look ugly

Wow, you think the Zonda F looks only ok, but you like the look of the Veyron. Well I gotta say you have different sense of taste, a little off, but different :wink:

I think the Zonda F is the best looking and (equalling the Carrera GT) the best sounding supercar in a long time. Next best sound goes to my love the Ferrari F50 <----- yep i said F50 :D

[nthfinity]

wow....how to take an ok looking exotic, and make it look ugly

Wow, you think the Zonda F looks only ok, but you like the look of the Veyron. Well I gotta say you have different sense of taste, a little off, but different :wink:

I think the Zonda F is the best looking and (equalling the Carrera GT) the best sounding supercar in a long time. Next best sound goes to my love the Ferrari F50 <----- yep i said F50 :D

As I stated, i dont like it's long rear deck with bubble cockpit forward design. the interior is uber exotic, and I love the interior; but the exterior only gets a "meh" from me.

the Veyron looks ok from a head-on view, but is truly beautiful from every other angle. The thing about the Veyron is that it really doesn't look exotic; notice my photo next to a Spyker, and a Murci roadster...
http://nthimage.com/Detroit/photoshoots/Bugatti_Veyron_1/Bugatti_Veyron_Lambos_1.jpg

It just doesn't stand out... especially from that angle. The Veyron's best angle is more low from a rear 3/4 with the wing deployed in high downforce configuration... raw sex IMO... but still not quite edging on exotic deisgn...

The exotic that I love more then any is the Vector W8. Even if its rear feels a little "flat" as I disussed with r2r a few days ago... the rest of the car is beautiful, extreme, functional, and timeless. Even the F40 is looking dated to me lately; not that I dont love it.

[yg60m]

Interesting how much answer get a manufacturer which was unknow 5 years ago. It shows how much success with passionates it has :D A great achievement !!

I also prefer the F version but the R is certainly more aerodynamically efficient and so much more powerfull :twisted:

[StanAE86]

Wow...awesome.... :D

[Stoopie]

Wow that rear wing! :D Give me one!!

[numerouno]

:twisted: a real beast! let's see how it compares to the fxx!

[McLaren4eVa]

It looks amazing and by looking at it it definatley does not look street legal. I love the zonda. I prefer the zonda F over any super on the market(Except any form of the McLaren F1).

[SPEEDKILLAR]

The MC12 met with only so much success against the other teams from the US, and Europe... not so bad when one starts off with pure racing technology... but perhaps not good either?

In conclusion... Me no likey, and Zonda is already backed up with a severe bottle neck of production... I think Heratio should invest enough to start being able to build 40-50 cars a year rather then 11-13 cars a year. :(

The restrictions imposed on the MC12's really didn't help during the short period it raced here. It literally had no chance to win. Which didn't matter, since it wouldn't be awarded points.

Low production keeps prices and demand high, Mr Pagani isn't stupid. :lol:

I wouldn't expect to see this race anywhere, at those kind of production numbers, it wouldn't meet homologation rules. The engine is too big for forced induction as well.


Say that again?

[666fast]

The MC12 met with only so much success against the other teams from the US, and Europe... not so bad when one starts off with pure racing technology... but perhaps not good either?

In conclusion... Me no likey, and Zonda is already backed up with a severe bottle neck of production... I think Heratio should invest enough to start being able to build 40-50 cars a year rather then 11-13 cars a year. :(

The restrictions imposed on the MC12's really didn't help during the short period it raced here. It literally had no chance to win. Which didn't matter, since it wouldn't be awarded points.

Low production keeps prices and demand high, Mr Pagani isn't stupid. :lol:

I wouldn't expect to see this race anywhere, at those kind of production numbers, it wouldn't meet homologation rules. The engine is too big for forced induction as well.


Say that again?

The rules state that an engine cannot be over a certain size (liters, cubic inches, however you'd like to measure it) when using various forms of forced induction. Unless I've mixed it up with another class, it all gets confusing trying to understand all the rules.

Either way, the car would be stopped at homologation. They would need to build at least 25 of them and they have to be road legal.

[yg60m]

and Zonda is already backed up with a severe bottle neck of production... I think Heratio should invest enough to start being able to build 40-50 cars a year rather then 11-13 cars a year. :(

Good point there!

Instead of start messing with a racer-that-you-cannot-race like this, they should improve the production of the Zonda. 12 cars a year is not what I'd call a success... although I'm pretty sure that the intention of Horacio is to keep the production numbers low, as a small manufacturer as they are, to keep the value of the cars high.

Anyway, a smaller V10 version - like the Gallardo for example, cheaper, but still more exclusive than a Ferrari IMO - would be a sales boost for Pagani... and would give lots of cash to start working in a racing program.

I think that a race version of an existing car brings more money than developping the industrial tools which only cost money at first and can be dangerous for the good health of a small company.
I would also like to begin to see what he will do after the Zonda but it seems we wil have to wait :wink:

[blue8]

http://www.netcarshow.com/pagani/2008-zonda_r/
new pics in HQ :D :twisted: and i thought the Zonda couldn't get any more extreme


Pagani Zonda R

While we certainly cannot say the Zonda F lacks performance figures, driving around the Nürburgring in 7:32 and achieving lateral G forces of almost 1.5 G, it is however a road car, easy to drive, intuitive and setting the benchmark for comfort, safety and lightweight. Paired with a quality finish and the attention to detail this made the Zonda F one of the most desirable supercars resulting in the 25 Coupé models being sold out in record time.

This did not seem to fulfil the requirements of our most demanding customers, who adore the weekend drive on a racetrack.

The spark has been set by an Italo-American customer, enthusiast and already proud owner of 3 Zondas. He describes the project this way: "The thought has been on my mind for quite some time, but I am not interested in racing".

The Zonda R is born with full liberty. The target: the ultimate performance at the racetrack without any implications of rules, except for safety, where no compromise is allowed. In September 2006 the first drawings were ready, but it was crucial to have the support of Mercedes-AMG for a high revving engine with a power output of 750hp, dry sump, light and with a low centre of gravity. The basis was the self supporting engine of the mighty CLK GTR, which has dominated the GT championships.

Eve at constant racing pace the engine would have to cover over 5.000 km before servicing. The challenge has been accepted without hesitation.

The Zonda R is a car designed from scratch, with only 10% of the Zonda F components to be carried over. The suspension forged in Avional, a new Pagani six speed transversal sequential gearbox, carbon fibre monocoque, aeronautical four pump fuel tank are only part of the equation.

The wheelbase has grown by 47mm, the overall length by 394 mm and the track is increased by 50mm. The bodywork and aerodynamics have been studied to offer maximum downforce. Even though built for the track, the project would not have received kick off, if the quality and finish of the car and its details was not up to the level of the Pagani road cars. One of the first cars to be delivered however will be kept in a living room, designed by Pagani and built with the same materials as the Zonda F, beautifully textured carbon fibre, avional, titanium, inconel and other state of the art materials. Additionally it will feature a bespoke HiFi System that will allow the customer to listen to the sound of this car at Le Mans and the Nürburgring.

The Pagani customers who have ordered the Zonda R will be relieved of almost 1.2 million + taxes.

Technical Specifications

This Zonda is purpose made for track use, without restrictions of any competition rules or homologation, with the only exclusion of the passengers' integrity, where no compromise is tolerated according to our philosophy and state-of-the-art safety measures are featured.

A new heart

The engine is built by the racing specialists at Mercedes AMG, where the championship winning DTM cars are born, as well as the CLK GTR, probably the most devastating and effective weapon ever to compete in the GT series. From it's engine the Zonda R borrows the basic architecture including an ingenious dry sump allowing a low centre of gravity. This self-supporting engine with 750 hp at 8000 rpm and 710 Nm of torque carries a lightweight carbon fibre highperformance intake system, a racing multiple disc sintered clutch and Formula 1 style exhaust system, hydroformed in Inconel 625 and ceramic coated for optimal heat dissipation. The power unit combined with a 6 speed transversal manual sequential synchronised gearbox is designed to satisfy the most ambitious drivers.

The chassis

The central carbon chassis will incorporate a roll cage and a rubber racing fuel tank with 4 fuel pumps and quick refuel filler like on GT race cars. The wheelbase has been increased by 47mm to offer the best stability. The front and rear subframes are brand-new, built to accommodate a new suspension geometry, produced in avional. The magnesium forged rims with central wheel nut and a quick pneumatic lifting system allows fast and effortless changes of the slick tyres.

Bodywork and aerodynamics

The new bodywork has been honed to offer elevated downforce even in low speed corners. The longer front bonnet with flaps, closed underbody and the rear overhang with the adjustablerear wing and race derived diffusor translate into shattering aerodynamic efficiency and will let you experience cornering speeds beyond imagination. The car displays and logs information about the amount of dowforce that the car is generating at each moment. Combined with the adjustable wings you can easily find the best setup for each track.

Workstation

The interior is designed to accommodate the driver and passenger in bespoke seats, built to offer the best support, when the G-forces from the vehicle dynamics come into question. The Digitek instrumentation provides the essential information and a sophisticated telemetry allows through a variety of sensors to monitor every single component of the car.

Technical Data

* Type V12 - M120
* V - angle 60°
* Displacement 5987 ccm
* Stroke 80,20 mm
* Bore 89,00 mm
* Valves per cilinder 4
* Horse Power 750
* Power output 551 KW at 7.500 1/min
* Torque output 710 Nm
* Aspiration Single throttle bodies, mechanically operated
* Lubrification Dry sump with separate oil tank
* Firing order 1-12-5-8-3-10-6-7-2-11-4-9

[Stoopie]

Oh only 1.2 million + taxes, I'll have one tomorrow :')

[Stoopie]

Definitely, more desirable than the FXX... :love:

+1!

[rave426]

That engine is simply insane. I never knew a AMG V12 could be so impressive :wink:

[stmoritzer]

amazing!! :drool:

just called Carugati, the Pagani dealer of CH and they won't have a real one in Genenva, but a Mock-up or a model ( my french is quite bad and I don't know if I understood him correctly :wink:).

Let's see :P

[Svensson]

Oh man, this car will be awesome! High revving big-capacity V12 with individual throttle bodies! Proper sequential gearbox!!

Can't get much cooler than this! And if I read correctly, you're not limited to special trackdays (like the FXX and MC12 Corsa), but can drive the car as much as you like on regular trackdays!

[Shinigami]

That engine is simply insane. I never knew a AMG V12 could be so impressive :wink:
I'm actually kinda wondering about this. Are they using the same + 7 liter engine found in the older model SL? I wasn't aware this engine had 4 valves per cylinder.

Maybe they've done some major modifications to the engine? Well, they did say they're taking the one used in the CLK-GTR, so it's probably a major 'facelift' (if one can call it) then the now 10 year old V12 engine...

[bmagni]

And if I read correctly, you're not limited to special trackdays (like the FXX and MC12 Corsa), but can drive the car as much as you like on regular trackdays!

they're not limited to special trackdays, the difference is that if you wanna run you FXX on any other track day, costs are up to you

[TopGearNL]

That engine is simply insane. I never knew a AMG V12 could be so impressive :wink:
I'm actually kinda wondering about this. Are they using the same + 7 liter engine found in the older model SL? I wasn't aware this engine had 4 valves per cylinder.

Maybe they've done some major modifications to the engine? Well, they did say they're taking the one used in the CLK-GTR, so it's probably a major 'facelift' (if one can call it) then the now 10 year old V12 engine...

Yeah Im wondering too if its the same engine as in the SL73, because thats already quite an old engine IMO :bah:

[TopGearNL]

^^ aha, so what will they do, update/customize it or just keep it and tune it?

[numerouno]

Hires pix + 2 cool sketches :)

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2981/2007paganizondarrearandtv2.th.jpg (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007paganizondarrearandtv2.jpg) http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5976/2007paganizondartop1600tw8.th.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007paganizondartop1600tw8.jpg) http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6438/2007paganizondarfront16ny4.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007paganizondarfront16ny4.jpg) http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6898/2007paganizondarsideandbo2.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007paganizondarsideandbo2.jpg)

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8646/2007paganizondarzondaf1lc5.th.jpg (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007paganizondarzondaf1lc5.jpg) http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4153/2007paganizondardrawingqm8.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007paganizondardrawingqm8.jpg) http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8007/2007paganizondardrawingsf6.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007paganizondardrawingsf6.jpg)

BTW, the engine is not the same old one, the official press release says it a 6 liter unit from the CLK DTM:
A new heart

The engine is built by the racing specialists at Mercedes AMG, where the championship winning DTM cars are born, as well as the CLK GTR, probably the most devastating and effective weapon ever to compete in the GT series. From it’s engine the Zonda R borrows the basic architecture including an ingenious dry sump allowing a low centre of gravity. This self-supporting engine with 750 hp at 8000 rpm and 710 Nm of torque carries a lightweight carbon fibre highperformance intake system, a racing multiple disc sintered clutch and Formula 1 style exhaust system, hydroformed in Inconel 625 and ceramic coated for optimal heat dissipation. The power unit combined with a 6 speed transversal manual sequential synchronised gearbox is designed to satisfy the most ambitious drivers.

[Firdosh7747]

at every angle this car is worth a 1000 words

[number77]

Impressive numbers - and good to see Pagani has got total support from AMG in the development the engine! :D

If the F already sounds fabulous... I wonder how will this 'high-revving' engine sound without the road restrictions :wink: :shock:

Definitely, more desirable than the FXX... :love:
The FXX was probably the most disgusting looking supercar ever made.
I guess those Italians think just because they put a stick on their car, it automatically looks good.

[TopGearNL]

^^Not a supercar since its not roadlegal..

Its a racecar therefore

[silentm]

the rear end is really extreme, what a monstrous diffuser :shock:

[Z3uS]

at every angle this car is worth a 1000 words
I gotta agree, it looks stunning wherever you look.

[TopGearNL]

^^Not a supercar since its not roadlegal..

Its a racecar therefore

But you cannot "race" it either :wink:

I'd rather take a racer MC12 R that I can race whenever and wherever I want than any of those pointless trackday cars :roll:

LOL!

So its a museumcar? :lol:

[Z3uS]

^^Not a supercar since its not roadlegal..

Its a racecar therefore

But you cannot "race" it either :wink:

I'd rather take a racer MC12 R that I can race whenever and wherever I want than any of those pointless trackday cars :roll:

LOL!

So its a museumcar? :lol:
:lol: True!

But why can't you race it? If it's not road legal and u can't race so there's really no purpouse for this car. They could just do the bodywork then...

[666fast]

But why can't you race it? If it's not road legal and u can't race so there's really no purpouse for this car.

You can't race it because it doesn't conform to any series rules.
It's not road legal for obvious reasons.

THere is a purpose, Pagani will make a fortune on them. And a few people will have an uber expensive track day/bragging tool.

[nthfinity]

But why can't you race it? If it's not road legal and u can't race so there's really no purpouse for this car.

You can't race it because it doesn't conform to any series rules.
It's not road legal for obvious reasons.

THere is a purpose, Pagani will make a fortune on them. And a few people will have an uber expensive track day/bragging tool.

Ok - from a company point-of-view... it does have a point and a purpose... make money. But from a customer point-of-view... these über-expensive trackday cars are absolutely pointless when you can buy a full race-spec MC12 racer or a 575 GTC for less money, and compete with other drivers... which is the main point when purchasing a racecar IMO.

:roll: :bah:
I'm with 666 on this one. There are a large number of wealthy collectors who love to do track time; but aren't competitive; and never want the opertunity to be taken where it looks as if they are competitive... they just want to go as fast as they can personally ;) no matter if some pro can edge out 5 more seconds.... or more...

[yg60m]

BTW, the engine is not the same old one, the official press release says it a 6 liter unit from the CLK DTM

You got it wrong I think. This car is using the same engine of the CLK-GTR, not the DTM... so yes. It is old.

:wink:

I suppose that if the Lambo V12 can stay so impressive after 30 years of developpment, the not-20-years-old Mercedes V12 has some time before being out :wink: