What is your opinion about french cars?

[SPEEDKILLAR]

Do you guys have experienced french cars, or maybe never seen one?



I do like the, my 2 favourites Renault 5 and 205gti. One of the first cars I've driven when I was 17.


So, how about you guys, in the US and other countries where french cars aren't sold or driven that much?

[graywolf624]

Ugly slow and have the unreliability of an Italian car. Why? Just why?

[ViperASR]

Don't really have any french cars in the US, so I have no experience. Which from what I've heard might be a good thing :lol:

[Shinigami]

I can tell you what the employees of Renault think about their cars? 3 employee suicides in 4 months.

Yes, French cars suck sh1t. I'd rather die then buy one.

[TopGearNL]

My dad had a Citroen Xantia 2.2 Automatic for a year.

Very nice car, fast, quiet and very comfortable!!

We did have many problems with it and it wasn't the best car my dad ever drove.

So overall they are comfortable but lack in some fronts..

[r2r]

I used to find Peugeot cars pretty interesting when I lived overseas, but right now I find them too tawdry and gaudy!

As for Renault, I love their Semi-trucks!

[Fleischmann]

Like already pointed out, very poor reliabilty. And not just the small ones, my friends dad had a range topping Peugeot 607. It spent more time being constantly mended than on the road. He eventually got bored and opted for Japanese.

However, they perform very well in NCAP tests, especially Renault.

[yg60m]

I have a Peugeot 306 Estate, nice familly car and comfortable. But I am not especially attracted by french cars ...

[666fast]

Ugly slow and have the unreliability of an Italian car. Why? Just why?

Quirky and unique, some people like that. I like a few, but I don't think I could ever convince myself to buy one.

[gis]

For what the sport models are made for,and thats handling,they are very fun.having owned the saxo vtr i can personally say it was dam fun to drive same with the vts.also had the pleasure of going in a renault 5 turbo which for a car of its age handled amazing,although that was helped along with fully adjustable koni suspension,lol i also like the 205 gti's and wouldnt mind owning any of the sport clio range going back as far as the clio williams

[graywolf624]

Quirky and unique, some people like that.
Some people get off on burning themselves with hot pokers and getting whipped during sex, that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

[TT]

I'd like to own a 205 GTI one day, but my past experience is awful. My first car, a Peugeot 106 1.4 was a nightmare, full of problems, same goes with mom's Renault Grand Espace. Never ok.
I will never own a french car again I fear

[Svensson]

My first car was a Peugeot 205 Rallye 1.3 which came stock with 2 twin Weber DCOE 40 carbs :twisted:

Enjoyed that car very much although I spend more than twice the amount of money of what I paid for the car itself on repairs... :?

http://img124.imagevenue.com/loc111/th_78110_Rallye_122_111lo.jpg (http://img124.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=78110_Rallye_122_111lo.jpg) http://img11.imagevenue.com/loc160/th_77980_rallye_engine_122_160lo.jpg (http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=77980_rallye_engine_122_160lo.jpg)

[SFDMALEX]

Cept for the few that made it to Rally I find em ugly, slow and ugly.

[SPEEDKILLAR]

WOW, so harsh, even the french guy(yg60m) :(

But yeah, I do wish they would build some of their beautiful concept cars and up the power.

I prefer their little cars, I remember once driving a Renault 19, I swapped with my nephew so he could use my dieseltank to go long distance, first I was sceptic, but when I drove the car, I fell in love :oops: It was hard giving the keys back.

[TopGearNL]

/\/\ Yeah I think thats a good conclusion, the top-end cars are great but the rest :x

[taygunho]

MY neighbour has megane II 1.5 dci and he is very happy with his car. Had no problems in 6 months. he said car is slow but really economic and has good handling.

[pitfield]

205GTi was the daddy,

nowFrench cars seem to be safe but heavy and slow. Drove a 207GT recently and there was almost nothing good about it.

[Svensson]

Here are two small vids of a similar Rallye I used to have:

Peugeot 205 rallye sound - YouTube
Peugeot 205 rallye sound (first95) - YouTube

Listen to the induction roar! :D

[SPEEDKILLAR]

^^ awesome :D small but feisty :twisted:

[TopGearNL]

Interesting starters car 8)

Thanks!

[Erez]

my honest opinion (btw- i hate all hatches..) their crap.. :bah:

[blue8]

I'm not really familiar with French cars, but I quite like the design philosophy of Citroen -- very unique, polarizing (much more than Bangle'd BMWs) and exciting. By that, I don't necessarily mean those cars are beautiful... :D

[cooperluke]

Don't like French cars, the build quality and reliability are B-A-D.

Then... there are the exceptions, like the Clio RS, The 205GTI, R5 turbo, etc etc, where you don't bother at those things, just want a fast and hot hatch, and the French do them very good!!

And then, there's the Bugatti! ;) :D But that's another league!!!

[Ghostbat]

My experiance of frech cars is that the engine is very reliabale but the electronics can't be trusted.

[SPEEDKILLAR]

^^^hey, you don't like it, buy a Volvo :mrgreen:

[TopGearNL]

/\/\ Reminds me of something JC said. ''If the Italians and the French meet up to do some cooking they will do great, but if they meet up to do a car, Run! Run for your live!'' :lol:

[SPEEDKILLAR]

My experiance of frech cars is that the engine is very reliabale but the electronics can't be trusted.

You've got it right! :D

The Espace, Laguna, Vel Satis... they all offer the same kind of stuff you can find in a top-end Mercs. The only difference is that in the Renaults, all the gizmos will stop working after the second year, while in the Mercs... they'll last forever :wink:


Beautifully said :clap:

[black_magician]

how is it that Renault wins 2 F1 constructors titles but still make pooo......

[SPEEDKILLAR]

^^ let's hope it follows the same trend. Maybe in the near future.

[RAMMIUS]

Interesting opinions
My father had a 205 and he replaced only the rubber bushings (you can`t call a car unreliable if you replace those once in a while) thanks to the awful roads.

Now he has a 207 and he`s very pleased with it, the only drawback is that he gets a lower mpg than, let`s say other cars in the segment, but that`s it.

[pitfield]

my honest opinion (btw- i hate all hatches..) their crap.. :bah:

No they're not.

[pitfield]

The 207 is ok if you're not into driving but thegear shift is simply awful, the handling is blunt because of the weight. The only thing I'd like to do in it is have a crash. Apparently it's very safe..