New Forza 2 Pictures Updated 3-15-07

[Pimp Racer]

They look good but no offense I think the Gran Turismo has it beat in the Graphics department. I mean just look at the poorly done interior and driver! :( I hope they improve this although they said this is close to the final build... Also there will be I think around 300 or less cars in the Forza 2. Correct me if I am wrong.
*EDIT*
Apparently they want to make a "huge" deal out of the fact they have different ambience.


It's because each environment in Forza Motorsport 2 features its own unique ambience, tuned to a vision established by Turn 10's art director John Wendl and executed on by his art team. So for instance, Tsukuba has a searing high dynamic range mid-afternoon sun-baked exposure, while Mugello looks lush and green, almost cool to the touch.

Well thats nice but I want to know what they got to go up against Gran Turismo dynamic weather? Kinda makes sense to have a 24 hour long endurance race huh? I mean changing weatehr, Day or Night, Sunny, Cloudy, or rain! I just hope they hold true to their words.

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[fabro_s]

yeap, I was hoping for a "more" photorealistic environment like GTHD but they didnt come as near as Polyphony, I think PGR3 looks better...

But well I hope that they make a great game like the first one..

[Pimp Racer]

yeap, I was hoping for a "more" photorealistic environment like GTHD but they didnt come as near as Polyphony, I think PGR3 looks better...

But well I hope that they make a great game like the first one..

Yeah this is no way better than PGR3. I think its a sick joke. :lol: Either way I dont mind it as then the GT fans get to bragg about photorealistic graphics such as this one BUT Forza 2 fans can bragg about being able to add some body kits and Lamborghini and Porsche....so I guess it sorta equals out? I just want to see a picture of Forza's Ferrari 599 GTB go against the 599 GTB of GTHD THE DEMO. Then we shall see the truth rite before our very own eyes.

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[RC45]

Neither one will be great without support for proper force feedback steering wheels like the G25.

The FM2 pics look overstaturated like the PGR3 images.

[twboy1999]

what interior pics

got any links?

[5vz-fe]

The track surface looks so fake, the rims on the Enzo from top view looks 2D.

(commenting on the Forza btw)

[79TA]

Yea, the Gran Turismo series tends to have more of a polish on their games but Forza drives so much better that I don't really care. If only Forza had as many cars.

[MidEngine4Life]

Im dissapointed how it looks. GT5 looks better and I wouldnt be suprised if PGR4 blows them both away but what bothers me most is that the truth is the physics (sp) in Forza are scientifically proven to be more realistic than Gran Turismo, also of all the vids ive seen of the new GT the sound effects are still god awful! How can you expect me to drive an endurance race in something that sounds like a lawn mower with a turbo charger. It drives me mad!

Im waiting to see some F2 vids before I make my final verdict

[RC45]

I was "driving" GTL and GTR2 again this weekend... and there is NOTHING like powering a car around a classic track like Bathurst with the G25 cranked to decent feedback levels and the emersion of 3 pedlas and an H-gate... (switch to sequential when the car requires it ;))

I don't see how the pathetic XB360 wheel and 720p could come close to the G25 and an Aussie V8SuperCar at 1920x1080...

I think the console devs are clutching as straws again.

At least Sony.PD had the Logitech wheel and photorealism... all M$ and Forza had was "online" play ;)

[gis]

""you are correct about the wheel,my cousin just got his G25 today,40 mins ago.so i will be having a go of it on GTL very soon,but remember not everyone has access to 1080p.....so 720p has to do

[TopGearNL]

So there is no comparision for the G25 I guess :mrgreen:

[Pimp Racer]

what interior pics

got any links?

Well Forza WILL NOT have interior VIEW but what I was refering to is in the enzo pic when you see the driver it just looks crap and the seats in another of those pic looks crap as well. :(

At least Sony.PD had the Logitech wheel and photorealism... all M$ and Forza had was "online" play ;)
Forza has online and force feedback Also GT will have online but we will see how well that goes. :)


Also some details Forza got wrong courtsey of Forza Motorsport forums.



REAL CAR
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Forza 2
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1610/forzamotorsport22007020td2.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=forzamotorsport22007020td2.jpg)


*EDIT*
Forgot about that imageshack rule so I uploaded images to imageshack and posted thumbs. :)

[r2r]

^^ WOW

that right there would be unforgivable if it goes in to the final game!

Especially for a game that is the second generation on a next generation console :roll:

[Pimp Racer]

^^ WOW

that right there would be unforgivable if it goes in to the final game!

Especially for a game that is the second generation on a next generation console :roll:

Well for your information I never commented that Forza sucks or is shit or any stupid shit like that because of those MINOR details they got wrong. All I said was
"Also some details Forza got wrong courtsey of Forza Motorsport forums."

So STFU if that what you said was directed to me if not then just ignore this post. Also just a note I did NOT spot out this minor detailing they got wrong, actual Forza fanboys/fans/Players spotted this. Shit I am not really gonna downgrade Forza until I see some final shots.

[ViperASR]

Im not going to make my decision till I buy the game. Everyone is saying it will suck because it dosnt have a proper wheel and the best graphics known to man and such. When did we start caring more about graphics rather then game play? I'm just going to buy the game, then make my decision as to if it is a good game.

And I have been using the game pad for Forza and it is just fine, perhaps not the most realistic, but still good fun.

[acmarttin]

Im not going to make my decision till I buy the game. Everyone is saying it will suck because it dosnt have a proper wheel and the best graphics known to man and such. When did we start caring more about graphics rather then game play? I'm just going to buy the game, then make my decision as to if it is a good game.

And I have been using the game pad for Forza and it is just fine, perhaps not the most realistic, but still good fun.

I share the same opinion. I haven't gotten to the point where the regular controller isn't fun anymore. Plus I don't want to have to justify why I spent so much money on peripherals for one game when I should be saving for a house :)

[RC45]

Im not going to make my decision till I buy the game. Everyone is saying it will suck because it dosnt have a proper wheel and the best graphics known to man and such. When did we start caring more about graphics rather then game play? I'm just going to buy the game, then make my decision as to if it is a good game.

And I have been using the game pad for Forza and it is just fine, perhaps not the most realistic, but still good fun.

When did "we" start to care?

the moment PC sims started getting as good as they are...

[r2r]

^^ WOW

that right there would be unforgivable if it goes in to the final game!

Especially for a game that is the second generation on a next generation console :roll:

Well for your information I never commented that Forza sucks or is shit or any stupid shit like that because of those MINOR details they got wrong. All I said was
"Also some details Forza got wrong courtsey of Forza Motorsport forums."

So STFU if that what you said was directed to me if not then just ignore this post. Also just a note I did NOT spot out this minor detailing they got wrong, actual Forza fanboys/fans/Players spotted this. Shit I am not really gonna downgrade Forza until I see some final shots.

What in my post made you ever think that that was directed toward you :?:

[bmagni]

wow, after gears of war and MS supporting Forza its hard to believe it looks this bad.... and NO interior view ?!?!? what the hell ?!?!?!
I'll hope this turns to be different as they have delayed the game once more...

[SFDMALEX]

It looks like NFS on pc

http://www.is-mad.com/upload/userfiles/SFDMALEX/CGTCarbon.jpg

[TopGearNL]

/\/\ It does indeed, especially since it says Carbon on the license plate :?

[silentm]

It looks like NFS on pc

http://www.is-mad.com/upload/userfiles/SFDMALEX/CGTCarbon.jpg

wow i'd really like to see the poly structure on that model :? all the reflections are really distorted and not nice ... looks like there could be some improvement done ...

[MidEngine4Life]

They just released a bunch of names of cars that will be in the game....

2005 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
1994 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta
1999 Ferrari 360 Modena
2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello
1991 Ferrari 512 TR
1998 Ferrari F355 Challenge
1984 Ferrari GTO
2004 Ferrari F430
2003 Ferrari Challenge Stradale
1987 Ferrari F40
1995 Ferrari F50
2002 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
1964 Ferrari 250 GTO
1967 Ferrari 330 P4
2005 Lamborghini Gallardo
1988 Lamborghini Countach LP5000 QV
1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV
2005 Lamborghini Murcielago
1999 Lamborghini Diablo GTR
2006 Maserati GranSport
2004 Maserati MC12
2003 Porsche Boxster S
1989 Porsche 944 Turbo
1982 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3
2006 Porsche Cayman S
2004 Porsche 911 GT3 (996)
2007 Porsche 911 Turbo (997)
1987 Porsche 959
2007 Porsche 911 GT3 (997)
1995 Porsche 911 GT2
2003 Porsche Carrera GT
1970 Porsche 914/6
1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS
1955 Porsche 550 Spyder

And a new screen
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[ViperASR]

Yay, they are bringing back the 944T :D :clap:

[MidEngine4Life]

Yay, they are bringing back the 944T :D :clap:

lol thats the car I was most excited about as well. Probably because its the only car ive ever owned to be in a game.

[ViperASR]

Yay, they are bringing back the 944T :D :clap:

lol thats the car I was most excited about as well. Probably because its the only car ive ever owned to be in a game.

same here. The 1999 Civic SI was in Forza1 and NFS Underground(?), but that was my brothers car.

[SFDMALEX]

/\/\ It does indeed, especially since it says Carbon on the license plate :?

say what??? :?

[Firdosh7747]

yeh thats def nfs carbon btw that game sux if ur planin to buy it DONT!


nfs heres to u :fist: for makin shitty racing games

[silentm]

@Forza 2

what just struck me as good is that they modeled all the doorseams ect. that is defiantely good, instead of having the black textured lines over the body. dunno if GTHD has gone the same way ?

[SFDMALEX]

I think you all need to take some english courses.

I said Forza looks like NFS on PC.

[vexor]

3 New screens

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- IGN.com

[TopGearNL]

/\/\ Just looking at the thumbs hard to tell the difference from real life! :shock:

[vexor]

** Update Feb 22 **

2 new cars announced

BMW E46 M3
VW Golf GTi

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- IGN.com

[MUS911]

awsome!
i cant wait to buy it :S

[RC45]

All this attention 'to detail and realism and the ultimate simulator blha blah blah" - yet no support for clutch or a 900 degree wheel. ;)

Good luck with the hand held controller there guys :P ;)

[Firdosh7747]

Nice! great screenshots man.

Do u guys think Forza 2 will be better than GT5?

[Pimp Racer]

I think you all need to take some english courses.

I said Forza looks like NFS on PC.

:lol:

/\/\ Just looking at the thumbs hard to tell the difference from real life! :shock:

Well you can say the same for Thumbs of GT3, GT4, PGR 1-3 and so on....when you have a huge image is when it counts now dont it?

*EDIT*
Thanks vexor for updating man. I keep forgeting.

[vexor]

All this attention 'to detail and realism and the ultimate simulator blha blah blah" - yet no support for clutch or a 900 degree wheel. ;)

Good luck with the hand held controller there guys :P ;)

doesn't the 360 already have a steering wheel out designed mainly for this game?

Like This one for instance (http://gear.ign.com/articles/747/747438p1.html)

[Pimp Racer]

All this attention 'to detail and realism and the ultimate simulator blha blah blah" - yet no support for clutch or a 900 degree wheel. ;)

Good luck with the hand held controller there guys :P ;)

I knew there wasnt a clutch but no 900 degrees as well???

Nice! great screenshots man.

Do u guys think Forza 2 will be better than GT5?
Dont really wanna comment on this as it will start a damn flame war again so we will just keep this shit to our selfs until both games are out. How about that? :)


All this attention 'to detail and realism and the ultimate simulator blha blah blah" - yet no support for clutch or a 900 degree wheel. ;)

Good luck with the hand held controller there guys :P ;)

doesn't the 360 already have a steering wheel out designed mainly for this game?

Like This one for instance (http://gear.ign.com/articles/747/747438p1.html)

Yeah but what RC said is that that Microsoft wheel lacks 900 degree turnging and a clucth and I think shifter as well.

[vexor]

Yeah but what RC said is that that Microsoft wheel lacks 900 degree turnging and a clucth and I think shifter as well.

ic, ic, they probably won't put one out with a clutch cause most of the kids would stall the cars half way through the game, lol

[Pimp Racer]

Yeah but what RC said is that that Microsoft wheel lacks 900 degree turnging and a clucth and I think shifter as well.

ic, ic, they probably won't put one out with a clutch cause most of the kids would stall the cars half way through the game, lol

:lol: Yeah thats true. Although I dont they can just solve the problem by letting 3rd party people make wheels for the 360. Also cant wait for tommrows pit pass. :)

[RC45]

Nice! great screenshots man.

Do u guys think Forza 2 will be better than GT5?

If and when PD and Sony sort otu their ForceFeedback licensing issues... there is no chance in hell a 'hand held controller" game no matter how good it looks will come close to 'being better' than even GT4.

Just the extra "realism" and 'emmersion" a 900 degree FFB wheel gives is worth some visual degradation (even though there will be no degradation)

The complete failure of Turn10 and Micro$haft to address this extreme weakness in the game Forza2 is what will prevent it from being a serious contender and it wont ever be anything more than a novel online racing 'game' - just like Forza1 was.

I mean, comeon.. no matter how "real" the physics engie, if you are not accepting input from the same type of control mechanism you are really NOT feeding back to the human participant anything close to "relaism".

And after all, the games are being played by humans ;)

[ViperASR]

Why is everyone so conserned with a 900 degree wheel. If your racing a car and crossing your arms, your doing something wrong. Thats the 1st thing I learned when I started racing, if your arms are crossed, your scrubbing off too much speed.

I'm also tired of people comparing two games that havent even come out yet :roll: . Im going to go with someone earlier who said that they would wait for both games to come out to compare them.

[RC45]

Why is everyone so conserned with a 900 degree wheel. If your racing a car and crossing your arms, your doing something wrong. Thats the 1st thing I learned when I started racing, if your arms are crossed, your scrubbing off too much speed.


'900 degree wheel' is a ephamism for 'more than 180 degrees of rotation'.

The cars pictured above are NOT racing cars and the wheels in those cars rotate at least 2 1/2 turns lock to lock.

While you dont actually turn the wheen 2 turns when on a race track, you do however exploit almost all the rotation when saving yourself and thus there is no false-up-ratio'ing of the turning input.

So - it doesnt matter what you learned when you started racing - its not realistic if you dont have the same amount of rotation at your disposal.


I'm also tired of people comparing two games that havent even come out yet :roll: . Im going to go with someone earlier who said that they would wait for both games to come out to compare them.


GT4 on the PS2 and GTL/GTR/GTR2 etc on the PC are out and released - and the extra and realistic rotation and force feedback make the games far more immersive than a controller contriolled game could ever be.

So again , what is so "realistic and emmersive" about a super duper picture and an astonishing physics engine, if all you get to control it are a hand held controller or at best a 200 degree wheel without a stick shift and poor rendition of force feed back?

That is the point.

[bmagni]

The 360's FF wheel is great IMO. Though the 900° lock doesn't exist and it sometimes feels you're missin something, the FF adds quite a lot of fun factor to the game. I can live with no clutch and the pedals lack of feel, but this happens in all the wheels... one day we'll get FF pedals :P
I only have played PG3 which is everything but a simulator, but cone challenges get to be quite fun and thats very important for me.
So if you're thinking of buying it I'd recommend it, it's fun and the FF works really nice... If the FF tuning in FM turns out what they have said, then it'll be even better.









No in car view but if we get this it'll be nice
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7517/02jd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Pokiou]

Xbox needs to do the following..

360' turning wheel with clutch pedal and H stick.
make forza with over bonnet view.

stop making us pay for extra shit htey could of added to the game with no issues..

so what am i gonna do when i run outta hd space on the xbox ??? delete my old content ? HELL NO

[RC45]

The 360's FF wheel is great IMO. Though the 900° lock doesn't exist and it sometimes feels you're missin something, the FF adds quite a lot of fun factor to the game. I can live with no clutch and the pedals lack of feel, but this happens in all the wheels... one day we'll get FF pedals :P
I only have played PG3 which is everything but a simulator, but cone challenges get to be quite fun and thats very important for me.
So if you're thinking of buying it I'd recommend it, it's fun and the FF works really nice... If the FF tuning in FM turns out what they have said, then it'll be even better.


I have tried the Micro$haft FFB wheel, and it is junk - for the money it is. I would buy it for half the price.

Its mounting is rather goofy and the wheel shape and layout are rather silly.

I really prefer this one in the end...

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2240,CONTENTID=11859

[ViperASR]

^^^
RC, do you know if the FF works and works well on that wheel. I've been thinking about buying a wheel for the 360, and dont want to get the wireless one beacuse its hella expensive. This one looks better, I just want to know if it is better.

[SFDMALEX]

Technicaly its a robust wheel, that MS one, but few years ago...makes no sense to get it today.

[RC45]

^^^ Its the best of the poor offerings so far. I think I picked one up at GameStop or something for less than $100.

[bmagni]

The 360's FF wheel is great IMO. Though the 900° lock doesn't exist and it sometimes feels you're missin something, the FF adds quite a lot of fun factor to the game. I can live with no clutch and the pedals lack of feel, but this happens in all the wheels... one day we'll get FF pedals :P
I only have played PG3 which is everything but a simulator, but cone challenges get to be quite fun and thats very important for me.
So if you're thinking of buying it I'd recommend it, it's fun and the FF works really nice... If the FF tuning in FM turns out what they have said, then it'll be even better.


I have tried the Micro$haft FFB wheel, and it is junk - for the money it is. I would buy it for half the price.

Its mounting is rather goofy and the wheel shape and layout are rather silly.

I really prefer this one in the end...

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2240,CONTENTID=11859

The mounting is horrible, thats true... but i don't qualify it as junk... i get lots of fun.

[vexor]

And more cars just got announced

2001 Aston Martin V12 Vanquish
2005 Aston Martin DB9 Coupe
2004 Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro
2000 Audi S4
2004 Audi S4
2003 Audi RS 6
2006 Audi RS 4
2004 Bentley Continental GT
1997 BMW Motorsport M3 E36
2005 BMW Motorsport M3 E46 Coupe
2002 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR
2007 Jaguar XK Coupe
1993 Jaguar XJ220
1961 Jaguar E-type S1
2002 Koenigsegg CC8S
1992 Lancia Delta Integrale EVO
1974 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale
2003 Lotus Elise 135R
2005 Lotus Elise 111S
2005 Lotus Exige
2005 Lotus Exige Espionage
1989 Lotus Carlton
2005 Lotus Exige Cup 240
2002 Lotus Esprit V8
1972 Lotus Elan Sprint
1997 McLaren F1 GT
2003 Mercedes CLK55 AMG Coupe
2004 Mercedes C32 AMG
2005 Mercedes SLR
1998 Mercedes AMG Mercedes CLK GTR
1954 Mercedes 300SL Gullwing Coupe
2003 MINI Cooper-S
2004 Opel Speedster Turbo
1999 Pagani Zonda C12
2007 Peugeot 207 RC
2004 Peugeot 206 RC
2007 Peugeot 207 Super 2000
2003 Renault Sport Clio V6 RS
2002 Saab 9-3 Aero
2003 SEAT Leon Cupra R
2005 SEAT Cupra GT Prototype
2001 TVR Tuscan S
2001 TVR Tuscan R
2005 TVR Sagaris
1998 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
2006 Vauxhall Astra VXR
2004 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo
2005 Vauxhall Monaro VXR
2004 Volkswagen Beetle
1995 Volkswagen Corrado VR6
1992 Volkswagen Golf GTi 16v Mk2
2003 Volkswagen Bora VR6
2006 Volkswagen Golf GTi
2003 Volkswagen Golf R32
2004 Volvo S60 R

[TopGearNL]

/\/\ Nice list!

Some rare cars in there you won't see or haven't seen yet in any other game :shock: :D

[ViperASR]

Car list is lookin better and better :drool:

[Sir_GT]

If the Forza producers spent more on proper developers instead of car licences, then the Xbox would probably a game that actually comes close to Gran Turismo.

Instead, we get Need For Speed on Steroids.

[RC45]

The mounting is horrible, thats true... but i don't qualify it as junk... i get lots of fun.

The "junk" qualifier was not meant to reflect badly on folks who bought it ;)

[bmagni]

The mounting is horrible, thats true... but i don't qualify it as junk... i get lots of fun.

The "junk" qualifier was not meant to reflect badly on folks who bought it ;)

LOL !!!!! not really... just different opinions...

[Pokiou]

so what is a good steering wheel for the xbox360 ?? ?? i want all teh full features and stuff or should i sell the xbox360 and get your wheel plus ps3 plus a big screen tv and the game ???

[RC45]

so what is a good steering wheel for the xbox360 ?? ?? i want all teh full features and stuff or should i sell the xbox360 and get your wheel plus ps3 plus a big screen tv and the game ???

Still wont really come close to GTL or GTR2 though ;)

But if FM2 is like FM1 with a "easy" physics model, then you will be going quicker sooner with FM2 than with GTL ;)

[79TA]

GTL is the greatest! Forza drive far better than the Gran Turismo series and still looks pretty good. It looks like they'll have a pretty good line up of cars. It's making me want a 360.

[RC45]

GTL is the greatest!

You got that right - with my new kit I am running 1920x1080 fuill everything and after playing with gamma/ colour and brightness have it looking really close to GT3/GT4 style look - awesome stuff ;)

[SFDMALEX]

Take some pics RC, wanna see the view on that big ass screen of yours :D

[Pimp Racer]

Take some pics RC, wanna see the view on that big ass screen of yours :D

He has some pics of it in the GT thread. Its a Sony TV.

[vexor]

** Update **

2 more cars added to the list

2004 Saleen S7
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454

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- IGN.com

[Pimp Racer]

^^^^ Nice Very nice. Although the lack of interior really makes the game just look odd. IT really kills the games images, I mean a nice looking car model and then no fucking interior? At least put up dark black tint to prevent seeing the damn inside! Oh well. Also some more news, videos, and images from GDC! :)

http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19676

[ViperASR]

^^^^ Nice Very nice. Although the lack of interior really makes the game just look odd. IT really kills the games images, I mean a nice looking car model and then no fucking interior? At least put up dark black tint to prevent seeing the damn inside! Oh well. Also some more news, videos, and images from GDC! :)

http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19676

+1 on the crappy interiors, after playing PGR3 with the awesome interior models your just like WTF :lol: At least the car models look nice. Its funny u say that about the tint, because u can "buy" dark tint in the game.

The videos actually look pretty nice, looks like it will be a fun game. Looks like they spent alot of time getting the bumps in sebring right, and they are saying that the final turn at sebring is one of the most difficult corners to get right because of the bumps/camber.

[TopGearNL]

Nice additions!

[vexor]

** Update **

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[Pimp Racer]

That Zonda looks too shiny. BTW anyone knows any news about this weeks Pitpass???

[RC45]

Did yousee the post by Dan G - the bit about "we are including race ending damage" ?

Except for the lack of decent controller (I a trying so hard to like the M$ Wireless but there is something lacking) it looks like FM2 is going to be pretty damn good.

[Pimp Racer]

Did yousee the post by Dan G - the bit about "we are including race ending damage" ?

Except for the lack of decent controller (I a trying so hard to like the M$ Wireless but there is something lacking) it looks like FM2 is going to be pretty damn good.


I think I saw that one. I dont really follow all of them though. If by race ending damage they mean I hit a mother fucker at 60 MPH from the rear then my car is completely fucking gone and useless then in that case Forza is gonna be somewhat very nice. Although I dont see how you can have this complete damage when the manafuctures dont allow certain people such as PGR team for example to show full damage so this has me completely lost....

Also RC have you see any of the GDC videos? If not I will post up some links for you. They are pretty good and show what the game will probably look like when 100% done.

I do agree though that FM2 will be good but the thing that really bothers me is that the only real tracks that stand out to me are Road Atlanta and Sebring which I loved in SCGT. I hope they are in GT5. I would like more tracks such as SPA or Baharain, or Lime Rock. Hopefully GT5 will include those and more. :)

[RC45]

I think I saw that one. I dont really follow all of them though. If by race ending damage they mean I hit a mother fucker at 60 MPH from the rear then my car is completely fucking gone and useless then in that case Forza is gonna be somewhat very nice. Although I dont see how you can have this complete damage when the manafuctures dont allow certain people such as PGR team for example to show full damage so this has me completely lost...

He just replied today with more proof its a myth - car manufacturers really ar enot he ones preventing damage being in the games.. its just the varying degrees allowed makes it difficult to incorporate different cars all with the same damage model.


Unfortunately, different manufacturers have radically different hang-ups. Also, the hang-ups are not proportional to the real-world prestige of the brand or its importance to the Forza franchise. I'm not going to name names, but I will rant a little bit.


One American manufacturer will allow damage all day, but is adamant about cars not rolling over. We have several other manufacturers that will only allow roll-overs if all of the others agree first – hellofa Catch 22. One of our European marks can't be used in PR materials as solo, winning or losing. It must always be pictured with other cars and dead even with them. Another European brand will allow painting and decals, but we can’t allow players to put “thunder” on the side of the car. I’m not even sure what that means. I assumed it meant lightning, but when I asked that specific question, the representative was very insistent: “no thunder”.


We have brands that charge ridiculous fees and make pretty "meh" cars. We got very popular brands that make awesome cars and charge next to nothing. Some brands are dead set against DLC. Other brands are willing to sponsor DLC.


There is a huge difference in how thorough each brand is when approving the car renders. On version 1, we accidentally submitted a car render from one Japanese manufacturer to its rival as one of their own cars… and they actually approved it as their car.


As you’d expect, these licenses are usually a lawyer to lawyer affair, but sometimes I get involved so we can escalate the matter higher up in the company. Some brands control other brands. Some brands hire outside licensing companies. Other brands have a licensing division within their legal or marketing departments. Sometimes different regions of a brand control the licensing, but usually it’s at a corporate level.


We have one European manufacturer that allows damage and rolling over, but is fairly unreasonable about upgrades and painting - core features to Forza. Truth is, I've spent 80% of my licensing time with just this brand. All that, and we still only got the licenses signed for half of the cars that we built from that brand. And yes, that means we spent months building cars that will never make see the light of day. I had to do back flips just to keep the small group of their cars that I felt were critical – we even got Peter Moore involved with this brand to help us pitch a higher level of partnership.


In the end, it’s all about building a partnership – which takes time. The key is to show them that we have passion for their brand and will defend it. It helps that we make a simulator – they know our goal is to achieve reality and celebrate their brand in a franchise, not use their brand to sell a quick product.


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Dan Greenawalt
Game Director
Turn 10

and


Worth noting:

For Forza Motorsport 2, we now have fully customizable Lamborghini, BMW Motorsport and the McLaren road cars on top of Ferrari and Porsche. Yep, McLaren F1 road car. By the way, customization is generally much more difficult than damage from a licensing perspective. That's not to say that damage is easy.


Don’t read too much into the fact that BMW is called BMW Motorsport. It has to do with the way licensing is submitted/approved for that brand. The E46 coupe, E46 GTR and E36 coupe are all production road cars.


In v1, we couldn't drop bumpers. Now, we drop bumpers, mirrors, and rear wings. We pour smoke from the engine, break more glass, crumple more body panels and to a greater extent. Also, we now support race ending performance damage. By building partnerships, we continue to push the bar for the whole genre.


I should reiterate, race cars and production cars are completely different beasts. It is relatively easy to license extensive damage including roll-overs, fire and doors flying off on race cars (i.e. NASCAR, F1, WRC, SCCA, FIA, IMSA, SuperGT... you name it). Licensed production cars and “car lust” are core to the Forza franchise vision.


One final note… Visual damage and visual customization double the production time for our 300+ cars. If we didn't think those features were important to the simulation experience and the Forza franchise vision, we could have done more cars.




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Dan Greenawalt
Game Director
Turn 10

[bmagni]

kewl, Its sounding and looking nice, it could be better in many ways, but i think its gonna be really entertaining

[vexor]

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[vexor]

** Update **

2 new cars announced with pics

1998 Nissan R390 Road Car
2006 Subaru Impreza S204


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[ViperASR]

looking better and better :D

[vexor]

** Update **

The full list of Jap cars in the game

1994 Honda Civic 1.5 VTi
1995 Honda CR-X Del Sol SiR
1999 Honda Civic Si Coupe
2000 Honda Prelude SiR
1991 Honda CR-X SiR
2000 Honda Integra Type-R
2004 Honda Civic Type-R
2002 Honda Integra Type-R
2003 Honda S2000
1992 Honda NSX-R
2005 Honda NSX-R
2005 Honda NSX-R GT
2003 Hyundai Tuscani Elisa
2005 Mazda Axela Sport 23S
2001 Mazda Mazdaspeed Familia
2001 Mazda Mazdaspeed Roadster
1990 Mazda Savanna RX-7
2004 Mazda RX-8 Mazdaspeed
1997 Mazda RX-7
2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type-A
2003 Mitsubishi Eclipse GTS
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT
1998 Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R
1997 Mitsubishi GTO
1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR
2000 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GT
1996 Nissan Silvia K's
1992 Nissan Silvia CLUB K's
2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II Nür
2003 Nissan Skyline Coupe 350GT
2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R
2003 Nissan Fairlady Z
2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II
1993 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
1994 Nissan Fairlady Z Version S Twin Turbo
1998 Nissan R390
1969 Nissan Fairlady Z 432
1969 Nissan Fairlady Z 432R
2006 Proto Motors Spirra
2005 Subaru Legacy B4 2.0 GT
2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi
2006 Subaru Impreza S204
1985 Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT Apex
2002 Toyota MR-S
1992 Toyota Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
2004 Toyota Altezza RS200
2003 Toyota Celica SS-I
2002 Toyota Soarer 430SCV
1995 Toyota MR2 GT
1998 Toyota Supra RZ
1969 Toyota 2000GT

[TopGearNL]

^^ Nice list, more variety between the cars then GT, where you have 18 versions of exactly the same car :roll:

1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi

Sound good! 8)

[twboy1999]

awsome video

[RC45]

Seems they aimed the game at the NFS crowd.. look at al those imports.

[Pokiou]

Hey Rc.. how many skylines are there in Grand Turismo ? :P

All games gotta have Jap cars.. there cheap fast and the quickest way to make money so you can buy a top ferrari or lambo in the game.

Pok

[ViperASR]

Seems they aimed the game at the NFS crowd.. look at al those imports.

Gee, they are all imports. Maybe thats beacuse its the Japanese car list :wink:

[gis]

Seems they aimed the game at the NFS crowd.. look at al those imports.

yea around the same ammount as american cars in the game.....

[dutchmasterflex]

Wow.. actually loooks pretty good. Too bad I wont be picking up a 360 anytime soon.

[vexor]

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[RC45]

Greta pictures - expect when you "drive", I mean "play" Forza 2, youwill be shifitng your 4 speed 1969 Camaro SS with a clutchless paddleshift system...

Soooooooooo realistic for a 2007 3rd Generation console game.

What a pity.

[RC45]

Seems they aimed the game at the NFS crowd.. look at al those imports.

Gee, they are all imports. Maybe thats beacuse its the Japanese car list :wink:

Seems they aimed the game at the NFS crowd.. look at al those imports.

yea around the same ammount as american cars in the game.....

Seemed to me they have more import ricers than real cars ;)

[ViperASR]

Greta pictures - expect when you "drive", I mean "play" Forza 2, youwill be shifitng your 4 speed 1969 Camaro SS with a clutchless paddleshift system...

Soooooooooo realistic for a 2007 3rd Generation console game.

What a pity.

:roll: :wink:

[Pokiou]

I just hope those images are IN GAME PLAY...and not rendered images .. if so the xbox360 is up for sale !

Plus i hope there is a cheat account, like there was in the first forza.

Pok.

[vexor]

Seemed to me they have more import ricers than real cars

Speaking of your "real cars"

1987 Buick Regal GNX
2004 Cadillac CTS-V
2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Coupe
2002 Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary SS
2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS-454
1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427
1970 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
2004 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT
1998 Chrysler Eagle Talon TSi Turbo
2006 Chrysler Crossfire SRT6
2005 Chrysler ME Four-Twelve Concept
1968 Chrysler Plymouth Barracuda Formula-S
2003 Dodge SRT4
1996 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo
2006 Dodge Charger SRT8
1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
2003 Dodge Viper SRT10
2003 Dodge Viper Competition Coupe
1969 Dodge Charger R/T-SE
2003 Ford Focus SVT
2006 Ford Focus ST
2005 Ford Mustang GT
2000 Ford Mustang Cobra R
2005 Ford Ford GT
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429
1966 Ford GT40 MkII
2005 Panoz Esperante GTLM
2006 Pontiac Solstice
2004 Pontiac GTO
1968 Pontiac GTO Hardtop
2000 Saleen S281
2006 Saleen S281 E
2004 Saleen S7
2006 Saturn ION Red Line
2007 Shelby GT500
1999 Shelby Series 1
1968 Shelby Mustang GT-500KR
1965 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C

From what I counted so far...
44 American cars
57 Japanese cars
55 European cars

[RC45]

Exactly.... I rest my case... there are more ricer imports than real cars.

Oh - and you have to drive your 4 speed munci with paddleshifters :)

[RC45]

I just hope those images are IN GAME PLAY...and not rendered images .. if so the xbox360 is up for sale !

Plus i hope there is a cheat account, like there was in the first forza.

Pok.

Thise are almost certainly in game shots, but I have to go back to the fucking useless wheel they support.

What a waste.. all that graphics and simulaiotn dev effort.. and then shit for controls.

I put up with shit for controls on the XBox and Forza only because one would have hoped the next generaiotn fo the game and console would have matured to real control... but sadly not so.

I only kept the M$ wireless wheel because it is all that is out there - but it is quite crap.

[Pokiou]

i think logitech might being out a better on man .. im sure of it.. or else the console in it self is crap...

Pok

[RC45]

Yeah - I am considering modding my M$ crapper and fitting the bits into a Logitech Momo I have ... better pedals, wheel and then wiring in the sequential stick shift

[ViperASR]

I would be uuber impressed if you could get that to work.

[RC45]

^^ me too ;)

[Pokiou]

i think logitech might being out a better on man .. im sure of it.. or else the console in it self is crap...

Pok

That is the worse English i have encountered from a natively speaking English person !!!!

and what makes it worse is its me..... :(


what i meant to say was that. Logitech will surely make a wheel that has the H sifter or clutch or what ever for the xbox360 if not .. its MS gain and Logitechs loss.

[ViperASR]

i think logitech might being out a better on man .. im sure of it.. or else the console in it self is crap...

Pok

That is the worse English i have encountered from a natively speaking English person !!!!

and what makes it worse is its me..... :(


what i meant to say was that. Logitech will surely make a wheel that has the H sifter or clutch or what ever for the xbox360 if not .. its MS gain and Logitechs loss.

Thats what I'm hoping for and will not buy a wheel till there is a better one on the market.

[vexor]

** update **

FM2 Demo confirmed for sometime this April

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8733/picture004rv2.jpg

[ViperASR]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[ViperASR]

Exactly.... I rest my case... there are more ricer imports than real cars.

Oh - and you have to drive your 4 speed munci with paddleshifters :)

GT4 dosnt support the 6-speed box on the G-25 though, so you 2 have to drive ur 4 speed with paddleshifters :wink:

[RC45]

Exactly.... I rest my case... there are more ricer imports than real cars.

Oh - and you have to drive your 4 speed munci with paddleshifters :)

GT4 dosnt support the 6-speed box on the G-25 though, so you 2 have to drive ur 4 speed with paddleshifters :wink:

Wrong

You simply set the H-gate to sequential and you can still use the stick exactly the way you do with the DFP.

:)

Nice try though ;)

[Pokiou]

What good is a game if you cant use a proper wheel .!!! clutch and shifter !

[ViperASR]

Exactly.... I rest my case... there are more ricer imports than real cars.

Oh - and you have to drive your 4 speed munci with paddleshifters :)

GT4 dosnt support the 6-speed box on the G-25 though, so you 2 have to drive ur 4 speed with paddleshifters :wink:

Wrong

You simply set the H-gate to sequential and you can still use the stick exactly the way you do with the DFP.

:)

Nice try though ;)

damn :cry: :lol:

The way you guys talk about this wheel makes me want it, but I just dont have enough PC games to justify the price. Im happy with my Logitech for now. And I should be picking up GTR2 here in a few weeks when the semester is over. :D

[vexor]

** Update **

The modded cars have been unveiled

1998 - Toyota - AB Flug S900 Supra Turbo
2000 - Honda - Aerogear Integra Type-R
2003 - Toyota - APR Performance Celica GTS
2000 - Audi - AWE Tuning SilverBullet S4
1995 - Toyota - Border MR2 Turbo T-bar
2003 - Chevrolet - Corvette Guldstrand Edition
1994 - Honda - Do-Luck NSX
1992 - Toyota - Do-Luck Supra
2003 - Nissan - Fairlady Z Custom Edition
2003 - Ford - FocusSport SVT Focus
2003 - Lexus - Foose Design IS430 Project Car
2000 - Dodge - Hennessey Viper 800TT
2006 - Mitsubishi - HKS Time Attack Evolution
1995 - Mazda - INGS RX-7
2002 - Chevrolet - Lingenfelter 427 Corvette
1999 - Mitsubishi - MINE'S CP9A Lancer Evolution VI
1993 - Nissan - MINE'S R32 Skyline GT-R
2002 - Nissan - MINE'S R34 Skyline GT-R
2004 - Honda - Mugen Civic Type-R
2002 - Honda - Mugen Integra Type-R
2003 - Honda - Mugen S2000
1995 - Mazda - RE-Amemiya RX-7
2003 - Mitsubishi - Sparco Lancer Evolution VIII
1998 - Subaru - Tommy Kaira Impreza M20b
2002 - Nissan - Tommy Kaira Skyline GT-R R34
1995 - Toyota - Tom's T020 MR2
2002 - Toyota - Tom's W123 MR-S
2002 - Toyota - Tom's Z382 Soarer
1998 - Toyota - Top Secret 0-300 Supra
2000 - Nissan - Top Secret D1-Spec S15
1998 - Toyota - VeilSide Supra Fortune 03
1998 - Toyota - VeilSide Supra Fortune 99
2000 - Acura - VIS Racing Integra Type-R
1995 - Toyota - VIS Racing MR2 Turbo T-bar
2004 - Honda - Wings West Civic Si

[silentm]

that's like 90% jap/asian cars... how boring ...

[vexor]

** Update **

The final list of the R-class... and it's not all Jap

2002 Acura #42 Realtime Racing NSX
2002 Audi #1 Champion S4 Competition
2003 Audi #1 Champion RS 6
2004 Audi #8 Audi ABT TT-R
2001 Audi #4 Johansson Motorsport R8
2002 Audi #1 Infineon Audi R8
2004 Audi #5 Audi Sport Japan Team Goh R8
2004 Audi #88 Audi Sport UK Team Veloqx R8
2005 Audi #2 FSI Champion Racing R8
2003 Bentley #7 Team Bentley Speed 8
2005 BMW Motorsport #2 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR
1999 BMW Motorsport #15 BMW Motorsport V12 LMR
2004 Cadillac #16 Team Cadillac CTS-V
2002 Cadillac #6 Team Cadillac Northstar LMP-02
2003 Chevrolet #73 3R-Racing Corvette Z06
2005 Chevrolet #31 Whelen Engineering Corvette Z06
2005 Chevrolet #99 Tiger Racing Corvette Z06
2004 Chevrolet #3 Corvette Racing C5.R
2006 Chevrolet #4 Corvette Racing C6.R
2003 Dodge #23 Magellan Financial Viper Competition Coupe
2004 Dodge #22 3R-Racing Viper Competition Coupe
2000 Dodge #57 Carsport Holland Viper GTS-R
2001 Dodge #58 Larbre Compétition Viper GTS-R
2002 Dodge #1 Team Zakspeed Viper GTS-R
2003 Dodge #126 Team Zakspeed Viper GTS-R
2005 Dodge #77 Team Zakspeed Viper ACR
2006 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione F430GT
2003 Ferrari #72 Team Alphand Aventures 550 Maranello GTS
2003 Ferrari #88 Veloqx / Prodrive Racing 550 Maranello
2005 Ferrari #11 Larbre Competition 550 Maranello GTS
1998 Ferrari #12 Risi Competizione F333 SP
2004 Ford #10 Tiger Racing Mustang
2003 Honda #16 G'ZOX NSX
2005 Honda #18 TAKATA DOME NSX
2005 Honda #8 ARTA NSX
2005 Maserati #15 JMB Racing MC12
2005 Maserati #35 Risi Competizione MC12
2005 Maserati #9 Vitaphone Racing Team MC12
1997 McLaren #41 Gulf Team McLaren F1 GTR
1997 McLaren #43 Team BMW Motorsport McLaren F1 GTR
2003 Nissan #3 HASEMISPORT ENDLESS Z
2005 Nissan #46 Dream Cube's ADVAN Z
2003 Nissan #12 CALSONIC SKYLINE
2003 Nissan #23 XANAVI NISMO GT-R
1998 Nissan #32 NISSAN R390 GT1
2003 Opel #5 OPC TEAM PHOENIX Astra V8
2005 Panoz #51 JML Team Panoz Esperante GTLM
2006 Panoz #81 Team LNT Panoz Esperante GTLM
2003 Panoz #11 JML Team Panoz LMP-01
1993 Peugeot #3 Peugeot Talbot Sport 905 EVO 1C
2002 Porsche #57 Larbre McDonalds 996 GT3 Cup
2003 Porsche #22 3R-Racing 911 GT3 Cup
2005 Porsche #3 Lechner Racing School Team 1 911 GT3 Cup
2005 Porsche #55 Applied Materials 911 GT3 Cup
2005 Porsche #66 AXA Racing 911 GT3 Cup
2005 Porsche #7 PFG 911 GT3 Cup
2006 Porsche #81 Synergy Racing 911 GT3 Cup
2006 Porsche #82 Red Bull 911 GT3 Cup
2004 Porsche #23 Alex Job Racing 911 GT3-RSR
2005 Porsche #31 Peterson-White Lightning 911 GT3-RSR
2005 Porsche #44 Flying Lizard 911 GT3-RSR
2005 Porsche #5 XBOX 360 911 GT3-RSR
1998 Porsche #26 Porsche AG 911 GT1-98
1987 Porsche #17 Racing Porsche AG 962c
2001 Saleen #26 Konrad Motorsports S7R
2002 Saleen #11 Graham Nash Motorsport S7R
2003 Saleen #2 Konrad Motorsports S7R
2003 Subaru #77 CUSCO SUBARU ADVAN IMPREZA
2004 Toyota #35 Yellow Hat YMS Supra
2005 Toyota #36 OPEN INTERFACE TOM'S SUPRA
2005 Toyota #6 EXXON Superflo Supra
2006 Toyota #25 ECLIPSE ADVAN SUPRA
1999 Toyota #3 Toyota Motorsports GT-ONE TS020
2004 Volvo #24 At-Speed S60 R

[ViperASR]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I can't wait!

[TopGearNL]

Sounds good! 8)

[ViperASR]

:multi: *Update* :multi:

Forza Motorsport 2: The Official Car List

2002 Acura RSX Type-S
2001 Acura Integra Type-R
2006 Acura RL A-Spec
2005 Acura NSX
1997 Acura NSX
2000 Acura VIS Racing Integra Type-R
2002 Acura #42 Realtime Racing NSX
2001 Aston Martin V12 Vanquish
2005 Aston Martin DB9 Coupe
2004 Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro
2000 Audi S4
2004 Audi S4
2003 Audi RS 6
2006 Audi RS 4
2000 Audi AWE Tuning SilverBullet S4
2001 Audi #4 Johansson Motorsport R8
2002 Audi #1 Infineon Audi R8
2004 Audi #5 Audi Sport Japan Team Goh R8
2004 Audi #88 Audi Sport UK Team Veloqx R8
2006 Audi #2 FSI Champion Racing R8
2004 Audi #8 Audi ABT TT-R
2002 Audi #1 Champion S4 Competition
2003 Audi #1 Champion RS 6
2004 Bentley Continental GT
2003 Bentley #7 Team Bentley Speed 8
1997 BMW Motorsport M3 E36
2005 BMW Motorsport M3 E46 Coupe
2002 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR
1999 BMW Motorsport #15 BMW Motorsport V12 LMR
2005 BMW Motorsport #2 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR
1987 Buick Regal GNX
2004 Cadillac CTS-V
2002 Cadillac #6 Team Cadillac Northstar LMP-02
2004 Cadillac #16 Team Cadillac CTS-V
2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Coupe
2002 Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary SS
2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS-454
1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427
1970 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
2003 Chevrolet Corvette Guldstrand Edition
2002 Chevrolet Lingenfelter 427 Corvette
2004 Chevrolet #3 Corvette Racing C5.R
2006 Chevrolet #4 Corvette Racing C6.R
2003 Chevrolet #73 3R-Racing Corvette Z06
2005 Chevrolet #31 Whelen Engineering Corvette Z06
2005 Chevrolet #99 Tiger Racing Corvette Z06
2004 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT
1998 Chrysler Eagle Talon TSi Turbo
2006 Chrysler Crossfire SRT6
2005 Chrysler ME Four-Twelve Concept
1968 Chrysler Plymouth Barracuda Formula-S
2003 Dodge SRT4
1996 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo
2006 Dodge Charger SRT8
1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
2003 Dodge Viper SRT10
2003 Dodge Viper Competition Coupe
1969 Dodge Charger R/T-SE
2000 Dodge Hennessey Viper 800TT
2000 Dodge #57 Carsport Holland Viper GTS-R
2001 Dodge #58 Larbre Compétition Viper GTS-R
2002 Dodge #1 Team Zakspeed Viper GTS-R
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1984 Ferrari GTO
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2005 Ford Ford GT
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2004 Ford #10 Tiger Racing Mustang
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2000 Honda Integra Type-R
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2004 Honda Wings West Civic Si
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2003 Honda Mugen S2000
1994 Honda Do-Luck NSX
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2003 Hyundai Tuscani Elisa
2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe
2007 Jaguar XK Coupe
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2005 Lamborghini Gallardo
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1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV
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1997 McLaren F1 GT
1997 McLaren #41 Gulf Team McLaren F1 GTR
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2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR
2000 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GT
1999 Mitsubishi MINE'S CP9A Lancer Evolution VI
2003 Mitsubishi Sparco Lancer Evolution VIII
2006 Mitsubishi HKS Time Attack Evolution
1996 Nissan Silvia K's
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2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II Nür
2003 Nissan Skyline Coupe 350GT
2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R
2003 Nissan Fairlady Z
2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II
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1994 Nissan Fairlady Z Version S Twin Turbo
1998 Nissan R390
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2002 Nissan Tommy Kaira Skyline GT-R R34
2003 Nissan Fairlady Z Custom Edition
2000 Nissan Top Secret D1-Spec S15
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2003 Nissan #3 HASEMISPORT ENDLESS Z
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Also, a video of FM2 at 720p
http://forzamotorsport.net/news/pitpassreports/pitpass43.htm
(Link at bottom of page)

Its looking like it will be a cool game, even without RC's G25 :wink:
(I do wish it was compatable with other wheels then the Microsoft one though :( )

[bmagni]

so so car list, though i was expecting some more 07, 08 models like 599, FXX, CCR, LP640, Zonda F, the new SEAT Leon, Clio, RS4, TT and so on... thats kind of a down... and the 62 GTO, not the 64 !
good to see Porsche included some 997 models...


Its looking like it will be a cool game, even without RC's G25 :wink:
(I do wish it was compatable with other wheels then the Microsoft one though :( )

if thats the only wheel it supports why complain ?? just take it for what it is...thats the way I see it, even why start complaining when you haven't even tried the game with the wheel ??

[TopGearNL]

1987 Porsche 959
2007 Porsche 911 GT3 (997)

Oh yes!!! 8)

[5vz-fe]

1987 Porsche 959
2007 Porsche 911 GT3 (997)

Oh yes!!! 8)

Make it 2

[ViperASR]

if thats the only wheel it supports why complain ?? just take it for what it is...thats the way I see it, even why start complaining when you haven't even tried the game with the wheel ??

Do you have the wheel? If yes, how is is? I'm considering picking it up when/if the price comes down a bit. I would like to play with it first before I buy it, but none of my friends have 360s, much less the wheels.

[twboy1999]

no 599
no audi r8
no lp640

hope they will update in the future with oinline download

[vexor]

don't worry guys, they'll have the newer cars out for dl content... of course they'll rip us off by making us pay more money for them, but i'm sure that they'll have them out on Live Marketplace.

[RC45]

if thats the only wheel it supports why complain ?? just take it for what it is...thats the way I see it, even why start complaining when you haven't even tried the game with the wheel ??

WHy complain?

Because in 2007 and for $150.00 that piece of crap should not even be sold.

It is crap - period.

However, it is the only one on sale right now.

I have gone through 3 - and the 3rd one is no better than the first 2. Sloppy steering head, stupid mount system and only paddles.

Who the hell was the moron on that design team?

:)

[ViperASR]

don't worry guys, they'll have the newer cars out for dl content... of course they'll rip us off by making us pay more money for them, but i'm sure that they'll have them out on Live Marketplace.

rip off just like the PGR3 downloads.... :x

[bmagni]

if thats the only wheel it supports why complain ?? just take it for what it is...thats the way I see it, even why start complaining when you haven't even tried the game with the wheel ??

Do you have the wheel? If yes, how is is? I'm considering picking it up when/if the price comes down a bit. I would like to play with it first before I buy it, but none of my friends have 360s, much less the wheels.

yeah I have it, and as I have said its a great accesory for the fun factor in games. The FF works pretty well and its supposedly tuned to work perfectly with FM2. The downs ? The mounting sistem sucks. Its a bitch. But everything has a solution, a pair of supports at the side of the wheel and the problem is gone !

if thats the only wheel it supports why complain ?? just take it for what it is...thats the way I see it, even why start complaining when you haven't even tried the game with the wheel ??

WHy complain?

Because in 2007 and for $150.00 that piece of crap should not even be sold.

It is crap - period.

However, it is the only one on sale right now.

I have gone through 3 - and the 3rd one is no better than the first 2. Sloppy steering head, stupid mount system and only paddles.

Who the hell was the moron on that design team?

:)

then don't buy it, if its crap why spend 150 in crap ?? invest that in a track day and i bet you it'll be more real ;)

[bmagni]

new vid
http://media.video.ign.com/ev/sv.html?dlURL=http://xbox360movies.ign.com/xbox360/video/article/783/783306/forza2_mugellocircuit_20070425_flvlowwide.flv&object_ID=743956

[blue8]

Demo now available!
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/05/10/forza-motorsports-2-demo-now-available-for-free-on-xblm/

[RC45]

Demo now available!
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/05/10/forza-motorsports-2-demo-now-available-for-free-on-xblm/

Yeah - we already tried it out.

WHat a great game... that haS been completely fucked up by the idiots who made the replay camera.

What a crock.

Is it that hard for these stupid XBox360 programmers to get it through their think skulss we want TRACKSIDE REPLAY views.. not stupid "floating camera" views?

One of the most important aspects of racing/driving sims is the enjoyment and thrill of watching adecent replay.

Oh well.. somehow we knew they would mess that up.

The controls are nice, the cars look nice the track details are awesoem.. sound is great - but - the lack of a stick to shift when driving a non-paddle shift car is inexcusable.

That is a HUGE let down - part of the challenge of driving a stick shift - is taking your hand OFF the wheel to shift the stick - even if it is not an H-gate.. just the act of removing your hand form the wheel is a great part of the realism.

I give this game a 7/10.

The low marks come from pathetic replay cameras and no stick shift wheel support.

These are fetaures that should be a given.

Oh and the fact it opens on a 3D-flyaround of a C6-Z06 is also a plus :P

[vexor]

^^^ I agree with you almost 100%

It would of been better if they opened up with the 911 Turbo instead of the Z06 :wink: :P

Anyway, as RC said the camera replay is awful and as for the wheel not having a stick shift.. I wouldn't know cause I don't even have a wheel but I get what he's saying.

The other thing I get is that did they skip on the damadge?

I took one of the cars and hit it at full speed into a wall to see what the damadge looked like. On the outside the damadge looked good, but on the inside nothing happened. Engine doesn't sputter, gearbox is fine, no suspension damadge ... absolutely nothing. Am I the only one with this problem or did they not bother to put it in the demo?

[RC45]

Nah - no damage in the demo is ok.. I am a little concerned that off track excursions don't spin youout as badly as they should.. so people could still wall ride their way around i fthey wanted ;)

[twboy1999]

i downloaded the demo

1 thing really piss me off about the demo is, i can't chanve the control.. i am used to Gt4 style buttons instead of this and PGR3 config

i play the demo with no assitant except ABS.. i tried the c6z06 race car.. cant even drive straight . pretty easy to spin off in this game

graphic are ok i guess, but car models in PGR3 is better

the sound is spot on, lets hope gt5 get their acts together when it comes to sound, and the damage to the cars are really cool.. bumpers can fall off and they on the track

[ViperASR]

Nah - no damage in the demo is ok.. I am a little concerned that off track excursions don't spin youout as badly as they should.. so people could still wall ride their way around i fthey wanted ;)

Try running into a wall again.

Im happy with the way the demo is. The graphics are great, and the track is very well laid out, with bumps and elevation changes all affecting your car. I think its a really good game that meets most of my expectations.

Again with the stick-shift with RC :lol: . Oh well, you cant make everyone happy. Perhaps RC just likes the feeling of a stick in his hands :lol: :wink: j/k. For me it dosnt really add or take away from the realism having to take one hand off the wheel to shift, but thats just me. I do hope that there is another wheel in development that wont be $150. :bah:

I do miss an in-car view as I have been playing GTR2 for the last week almost non-stop :twisted:

[RC45]

Again with the stick-shift with RC :lol: . Oh well, you cant make everyone happy. Perhaps RC just likes the feeling of a stick in his hands :lol: :wink: j/k. For me it dosnt really add or take away from the realism having to take one hand off the wheel to shift, but thats just me. I do hope that there is another wheel in development that wont be $150. :bah:

But think about it... flicking the paddles is nto an option in a Viper, so the realityis, you do spend a certain amount of time of the lap with one hand on the wheel when driving a Viper... shouldn't the game controller allow for that interaction? ;)