2009/2010 Mercedes-Benz SL / AMG / Black Series

[blue8]

From Leftlane News:

Spied: 2009-2010 Mercedes SL-Class
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6155/5spied20092010mercedesssa4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The SL-Class underwent a minor facelift just last year, and already Mercedes engineers are hard at work on a new model. Spy photographers have snapped photos showing a test car with a disguised front end. Whether we're looking at a facelifted current-generation SL or a mule for
an all-new model remains to be seen.

The spies at Hidden Image reckon the car pictured here is a major facelift for the 2008 or 2009 model year. They say the updated SL will get an all new front end including grille, air intakes and headlights as well as a new rear end and new taillights.

But we're not convinced. Development appears far too early along for this to be a 2008 model, which would have to be in showrooms by late summer.

So let's assume that this is a 2009 SL-Class instead. An all-new SL is expected for either that model year, or the 2010 model year at the latest. Why would Mercedes completely redesign the front of its flagship roadster, only to replace the entire car one year later?

With that in mind, we believe this is actually a test mule for the next-generation SL-Class. Automakers often graft all-new front ends and engines onto previous-generation bodies in order to complete early testing.

The current SL was introduced for the 2003 model year, meaning a replacement should arrive seven years later, for the 2010 model year. Of course, Mercedes could bring the new model a year early, as it's planning to do with the 2009 E-Class. Time will tell…

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1664/3spied20092010mercedessxv8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
More spyshots: http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/09/spied-2009-2010-mercedes-sl-class/

-- a 2010 model seems logical considering BMW is coming out with the Z9 / SL-fighter at around the same time. the competition gets me so excited :twisted: if it's not a 2010 model, it could very well be an SL63 AMG with those quad exhausts that has been heavily facelifted

[TopGearNL]

Interesting.

I hope it has a very different look to the current model, its nice but its getting kinda old.

Would love to see and hear that AMG version :twisted:

2010 sounds like an interesting year for new models..

[Z3uS]

I don't know... The rear seems to "fat". I was expecting something more radical but i guess i was wrong.

[SPEEDKILLAR]

:? Looks exactly the same as the current one.

[BADMIHAI]

Speed and Zeus: are you guys retarded or just illiterate?

"Automakers often graft all-new front ends and engines onto previous-generation bodies in order to complete early testing. "

:roll:


I can't wait to see what the new one is gonna look like. :twisted:

[saadie]

the fornt lights look different :?
and the rear lights ....
maybe thats about it :lol: ?

[SPEEDKILLAR]

Speed and Zeus: are you guys retarded or just illiterate?

"Automakers often graft all-new front ends and engines onto previous-generation bodies in order to complete early testing. "

:roll:


I can't wait to see what the new one is gonna look like. :twisted:


Is that so dumbo?

[saadie]

a thought just came to my mind ...

maybe these pics are 4 years old :lol: .... :lol:

[Stoopie]

FFS I want to see what's new on the front! :D I've kinda grown fan of this car since I had a drive in the SL55 AMG, can't wait for the new one!

[silentm]

I just hope they don't fuck up the beautiful design of the current SL........

:? :? :?

have mercs ever been beautiful ? (apart from the CLK-GTR :P ) imo: no

[Z3uS]

Speed and Zeus: are you guys retarded or just illiterate?

"Automakers often graft all-new front ends and engines onto previous-generation bodies in order to complete early testing. "

:roll:


I can't wait to see what the new one is gonna look like. :twisted:
Then why the fuck did they disguise the front and parts of the back? That would be dumb, since they could have just test the new engines and stuff on the previous version without attracting any attentions whatsoever.

[TopGearNL]

Hope they'll make a new SL73 with the Pagani's 7.3 Litre engine :twisted:

[TopGearNL]

Hope they'll make a new SL73 with the Pagani's 7.3 Litre engine :twisted:

The Pagani engine is old, and uses old technology too... it's the one used by the rare SL73 - 10 years ago?? - and it's older than the 55, 65 and 63 engines :wink:

Who cares about old steak and kidney pie engineering, brute power.. :twisted: :wink:

But I guess your right (as usual) since its an old engine..

[LEXION]

http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/Mercedes_Benz/SL/MB_SL_2008_v.jpg http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/Mercedes_Benz/SL/MB_SL_2008_h.jpg

finall results....more CLS-ly look alike

[Ghostbat]

^
I doubt that's the final result..

SL63 with "V8 KOMPRESSOR" badge on the side :roll:

[silentm]

what kind of images are you seeing? i can't make out anything from the badges on the side. it oculd say V12kompressor or something else... ??

[TopGearNL]

It says V12 compressor I believe, not V8 :roll:

[Ghostbat]

what kind of images are you seeing? i can't make out anything from the badges on the side. it oculd say V12kompressor or something else... ??

Don't you realize it's an SL55 PS? The V12 is not supercharged.

[RC45]

what kind of images are you seeing? i can't make out anything from the badges on the side. it oculd say V12kompressor or something else... ??

Don't you realize it's an SL55 PS? The V12 is not supercharged.

I was under the impression the SL65 is a TT V12, and the SL600 is a NA V12...

[Ghostbat]

what kind of images are you seeing? i can't make out anything from the badges on the side. it oculd say V12kompressor or something else... ??

Don't you realize it's an SL55 PS? The V12 is not supercharged.

I was under the impression the SL65 is a TT V12, and the SL600 is a NA V12...

Both are 6L V12 TT. Before the facelift of the W220 S-class and the C215 CL-class they used a 367bhp NA V12 (S/CL-600), but that engine never found it's way into the R230 (current) SL.

[RC45]

Oh ok - and the one has a grandpa transmisison and the other a "sporty automatic" :P ;)

[Pehtren]

I kinda dont like the photoshoped SL with CLS face, but i think that they would go in that direction. The new C klasse is an example.

Its a nice looking car, but too heavy IMHO. I will see when i try one. (yeah right :lol: )

[Z3uS]

I kinda dont like the photoshoped SL with CLS face, but i think that they would go in that direction. The new C klasse is an example.

Its a nice looking car, but too heavy IMHO. I will see when i try one. (yeah right :lol: )
That's exactly what i think and i also don't like the CLS face.

[Bernardo]

Some new Spy pics of the 09 SL...and yet another rendering with the cls front end.

And I guess thats what we are going to see as the final car.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/mercedes-sl-class-future.html

[martin100]

I also don´t believe those new pics. And why change the current design? IMO this is still one of the best looking cars around.

[pitfield]

AS if it'll look like that. think it's likely to have a more sinister nose.

[blue8]

Most revealing spyshots showing the CLS-inspired front-end (I like the new grille!)
http://images.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070725.004/6070725.004.Mini4L.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070725.004/6070725.004.Mini7L.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070725.004/6070725.004.Mini1L.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070725.004/6070725.004.Mini2L.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070725.004/6070725.004.Mini3L.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070725.004/6070725.004.Mini6L.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070725.004/6070725.004.Mini5L.jpg

[ya55erm]

Looks Good

[Ghostbat]

Looks Good

Bumping all old topics we can find..

[Stoopie]

I was under the impression the SL65 is a TT V12, and the SL600 is a NA V12...

Both are 6L V12 TT.

Err the SL65 AMG is a TT V12, the SL600 isn't equipped with the TT .. The TT version delivers 612bhp@4800rpm, the 'normal' V12 delivers 517bhp@5000rpm!

I know, late reaction ;)

[blue8]

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/9/24/9070924.012/9070924.012.Mini1L.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/9/24/9070924.012/9070924.012.Mini2L.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/9/24/9070924.012/9070924.012.Mini3L.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/9/24/9070924.012/9070924.012.Mini4L.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/9/24/9070924.012/9070924.012.Mini5L.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/9/24/9070924.012/9070924.012.Mini6L.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/9/24/9070924.012/9070924.012.Mini7L.jpg

A prototype for the Mercedes SL Black Series has been spotted on public roads around the Nürburgring, in preparation for some hot laps later this week. This is the most wicked SL ever conceived, with optimum performance its top priority.

Huge flared fenders are likely created with ultra-light carbon fibre, to reduce weight and to accommodate this car's enormous wheels and tires. The roof on this SL has been converted into a fixed coupe roof, also crafted in carbon fibre to lower the Black Series' center of gravity and further reduce weight. Exactly what engine mods have been employed here are uncertain, but you can be sure it's insanely powerful.

Our spies will be hot on the tail of the SL Black Series, so keep an eye out for more pics from the Ring.

:twisted: Once its out, it could possibly the best drivers' Benz!

[5vz-fe]

That is 1 hot looking SL even!!!! Loving in already

[pitfield]

And more CLS front end

[Bernardo]

Soooo wide body'ed!!Finally an really aggressive benz, love It already!

[Ghostbat]

I was under the impression the SL65 is a TT V12, and the SL600 is a NA V12...

Both are 6L V12 TT.

Err the SL65 AMG is a TT V12, the SL600 isn't equipped with the TT .. The TT version delivers 612bhp@4800rpm, the 'normal' V12 delivers 517bhp@5000rpm!

I know, late reaction ;)

You are wrong. Check your facts before you try to correct somene. BOTH are twin turbo V12:s

[Shinigami]

:? Looks exactly the same as the current one.

Thats because Mercedes are boring ass cars.
What ever bimmer boy :roll:

At least they don't look as dreary and boring as BMW's, of which I've driven nearly all current iterations, both M and non-M alike, unlike you who had a go in a... ML 350? pfff... just admit it, you know jack sh1t about MB's and prefer to stand out as another ill informed BMW owner because you've got no passion in "cars", you're just another "fanatic", and fanatics don't give a sh1t about cars, they only care about "their" marque. They never find anything wrong with "their" marque of cars, but know how to shout out sh1t about 'competing' brands because it makes them feel all big and buff :P


Anyway...

As was said, the SL600 and SL65 both have Twin Turbos, but the 600 has a 5.5 liter V12, whilst the 65 has a 6 liter V12. Both can get an additional +100hp from an ECU update, and a number of owners have done this.

[Mattk]

It's looking to be a very aggressive looking car. Not as radical as I would have hoped, though.

[Kaz]

seks!!
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/5946/mercedessl2au1.th.jpg (http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mercedessl2au1.jpg)http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/6674/mercedessl4yy8.th.jpg (http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mercedessl4yy8.jpg)http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3403/mercedessl1dw6.th.jpg (http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mercedessl1dw6.jpg)http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/1420/mercedessl3mm8.th.jpg (http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mercedessl3mm8.jpg)
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[5vz-fe]

As was said, the SL600 and SL65 both have Twin Turbos, but the 600 has a 5.5 liter V12, whilst the 65 has a 6 liter V12. Both can get an additional +100hp from an ECU update, and a number of owners have done this.

Wonder if it will affect the reliability of the tranny given that there's so much torque in those things.

[ae86_16v]

As was said, the SL600 and SL65 both have Twin Turbos, but the 600 has a 5.5 liter V12, whilst the 65 has a 6 liter V12. Both can get an additional +100hp from an ECU update, and a number of owners have done this.

Wonder if it will affect the reliability of the tranny given that there's so much torque in those things.

I remember a few years ago when the CL600 came out, they had to tune down the torque because unregulated it was upwards of 800 lbs-ft, if I recalled correctly. It was also the same reason why they had to use the older beefier style 5-speed auto instead of the newer 6-speed. If my memory serves me ;) .

But damn, this SL looks pretty damn good. I don't even really care what it looks like, but those flares make it look extremely good.

Yeah, I think over all this has waaaay better proportions than the SLR.

Looking forward to seeing this car w/o camo. :D

[acmarttin]

Looking forward to seeing this car w/o camo. :D

+1!


The SL looks hot with widened hips. I love the back end.

[Bernardo]

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/september2007/2-sl600-spied.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/september2007/1-sl600-spied.jpg

[Ford Capri 2.8i]

I Hope not to be dissapointed by Mercedes Benz; IMO, the SL has always been the most beautiful merc so far thoroughout years and Ive been sometimes asking myself: Is it possible to improve the cars styling in the next edition, and the answer has always been yes until now; see if they improve the cars look although its even to improve some perfect shape

[ferrari550]

looks like it may have a upward swinging door like aston martin

[wasaabi92]

I was under the impression the SL65 is a TT V12, and the SL600 is a NA V12...

Both are 6L V12 TT.

Err the SL65 AMG is a TT V12, the SL600 isn't equipped with the TT .. The TT version delivers 612bhp@4800rpm, the 'normal' V12 delivers 517bhp@5000rpm!

I know, late reaction ;)

You are wrong. Check your facts before you try to correct somene. BOTH are twin turbo V12:s



Actually fellas .. the SL600 uses a TT 5.5L V12 while the SL65 AMG uses a 6.0L TT V12.

[Ghostbat]

I was under the impression the SL65 is a TT V12, and the SL600 is a NA V12...

Both are 6L V12 TT.

Err the SL65 AMG is a TT V12, the SL600 isn't equipped with the TT .. The TT version delivers 612bhp@4800rpm, the 'normal' V12 delivers 517bhp@5000rpm!

I know, late reaction ;)

You are wrong. Check your facts before you try to correct somene. BOTH are twin turbo V12:s




Actually fellas .. the SL600 uses a TT 5.5L V12 while the SL65 AMG uses a 6.0L TT V12.

Shinigami has already establishad that as you can read in THIS thread.

[blue8]

Latest:
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[dutchmasterflex]

I bet it will be faster than the SLR too.

What's up with that fixed wing? I wonder if that's just there for development and not the final product.

[Kaz]

http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/spy_shots_mercedes_sl_amg_black_series_carmag_2.jp g


OMG!! :drool: :drool: :love: :love:

[blue8]

SL facelift from a Dubai photoshoot:
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2350/90712040071lxf9.jpg

[saadie]

http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/spy_shots_mercedes_sl_amg_black_series_carmag_1.jp g

:love: .. thast hott .... wheel arches like those ... on a merc .. nahh :lol: ..
it would be soo cool if the new car looked like this 8-)

[chest3r]

It does look aggressive... but I guess it's too much for a normal SL. Either they're trying to fool us, or that's an hardcore version like a the black series or CLK DTM

[blue8]

Official: SL65 AMG (facelift)
http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/Mercedes_Benz/SL/Merc_SL_65_AMG.jpg

Just a few days ago we brought you pictures of the latest SLK 55 AMG, and now we have the first official picture of the SL 65 AMG, Mercedes’ flagship roadster. As early as February of this year we were giving you previews of what the SL facelift might look like, and it seems we were pretty much on the money. The one major difference in the new look is the rear fascia and diffuser, which are unique to the new facelift and not found on any other model in the SL line. The news that accompanies the new pictures also confirms Mercedes will be offering an SL 63.

The picture released today only shows the new SL 65 from a rear three-quarters view, so other visual details are obscured. The powerful and prominent rear diffuser that holds the quad-exhaust tips, two at either side and the large, aggressively styled taillights dominate the view from behind. What we can see of the side looks similar to the outgoing model, and the front end, which is not shown in this picture, will doubtless hold a few surprises.

Power still comes from a 6.0L V12 in the SL 65 AMG, churning out a massive 450kW (612hp) and 1,000Nm of torque. The SL 63 AMG will get its power from a large-displacement V8 that pumps out 386kW (525hp) and 630Nm of torque. Both will be available with the AMG SpeedShift MCT 7-speed. For those with an eye toward fuel consumption and emissions, neither car is going to win any ‘green’ awards, but the figures aren’t as bad as you might think, given the massive power statistics. The V12 in the SL 65 AMG burns 15.1L of petrol per 100km traveled, and emits 362g/km of CO2 along the way. The V8 in the SL 63 AMG is somewhat more economical at 13.9L/100km and 330g/km CO2.

No word yet on pricing, but expect things to start out somewhere north of $180,000 like the current SL 65 AMG.

[yg60m]

Both will be available with the AMG SpeedShift MCT 7-speed.

I am curious to know if they finally make the 7 speed gearbox strong enough for the 1000 Nm V2 engine :?:

[HeilSvenska]

First clear pictures of the front. I think this is a 350?

http://jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/01/mercedes-benz_sl_350_2008-0.jpg
http://jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/01/mercedes_sl_350_2008-02.jpg

[ferrari550]

http://www.autocarmagazine.com/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/230424/

[HeilSvenska]

Not pretty, this car.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/mercedes-sl-class-future.html#more-6260