Do you drink?

[evoWalo]

What's your favorite drink? Started drinking again more regularly a few months ago with a few mates and discovered the joys of Goldschlager (with real gold bits) and Guiness Punch (condensed milk, Guiness draught, nutmeg, cinnamon, unsweetend chocolate). Skyy Vodka's good too. Bailey's too

I'm not out to kill my liver but savor what I've been missing. For a person of my mass I'm a drinking lightweight vs a girl half my mass who downed half a bottle of Cuervo Gold.

[gigdy]

Vodka, straight out of a bottle kept in the freezer.

[ae86_16v]

Patron Silver

[Skaala]

Mostly beer, and import german beer when the $$ is good.
If I do drink drinks, it's just Gin Tonic or Sidecar

[novass]

Jack Daniels Single Barrel Whiskey with ice.

[TopGearNL]

Im on a diet now LOL so haven't had a drop of alcohol for 6 months..

But I drink everything to be honest. I mostly enjoy a nice red wine with meat or a white wine with fish or a salad.

Not surprising since I work in a wine and spirits shop :wink:

[gucom]

hmmm since i'm a health freak (more or less) i hardly ever drink, only on special occasions... i kinda like cocktails although it's been years since i've had one... had my first shot of tequila recently, was pretty nice... beer's ok on a hot summer afternoon/evening, but im not a huge fan... i often like it when wine or beer is used in cooking food :)

[evoWalo]

beer batter's the best with fish fillet. :mrgreen:

[Mattk]

I prefer beer. In fact, if I ever start off a drinking session, it's usually with beer. Due to budgetary constraits, I usually just drink the cheap stuff, i.e. whatever's on tap. The imported stuff is only for when other people are paying. Wine is OK; I prefer white over red, though. I like the odd mixed drink, usually Bundaberg rum with Coke.

[ARMAN]

I will be probably alone but I don't drink and never did 8) don't know what is it to be drunk but from seeing my mates drunk as f@ck almost daily in my school years I think its nothing that worth a try :mrgreen:
Oh and never smoked either :)
Never tried and never had desire to start :bah:

[Mattk]

A little won't hurt... :P But you're not alone. I know numerous people who choose not to drink and that's really their choice. Not drinking is not as bad as getting drunk.

[MIHALS]

I do drink, but not that much. sometimes I go to the pub with my friends and have about 4 beers (about 5 years ago I did 8 and Czech beer is really strong compared to others). mostly I drink wine with my g/f's parents - not to get drunk, but to chat and for good atmosphere :D

[Mattk]

I once went to pub with some friends and they kept buying me beer. At the end I told some girls that I'd walk them to Cicular Quay, but it was probably the other way round, as I stumbled along behind them bitching about my woeful love life. That was probably the closest I was to getting drunk.

[TopGearNL]

I am a good drinker. My grandad and uncles go to the Pub everyday and whenever Im back home I go with them :lol:

I can drink as much as I can and I won't get drunk, I become happy LOL

I was in Spain with a schooltrip and I had 40 glasses of beer, Im not kidding. I was in that Dutch bar from 11 in the morning till 8 in the evening, teachers didn't like it :roll: :P

Only time I was really drunk was when I had alot to drink and had an empty stomach the whole day. I dropped in some bushes with my bicycle on the way home and thought what the heck I might aswell sleep here. I did get up after 10 minutes or so and went home, don't ask how :shock: :lol:

[Mattk]

I did get up after 10 minutes or so and went home, don't ask how

OK, so you weren't entirely drunk.


I was in that Dutch bar from 11 in the morning till 8 in the evening, teachers didn't like it

What? Is this a daytime bar, or something? I hardly ever start drinking before 8pm. :?

[TopGearNL]

I did get up after 10 minutes or so and went home, don't ask how

OK, so you weren't entirely drunk.


I was in that Dutch bar from 11 in the morning till 8 in the evening, teachers didn't like it

What? Is this a daytime bar, or something? I hardly ever start drinking before 8pm. :?

Well I don't remember anymore LOL I just woke up in my bed

Yeah that bar was open 24 hours a day LOL

[RCV]

Red Label!

"Time is never wasted....when you're wasted all the time"

[TopGearNL]

I did get up after 10 minutes or so and went home, don't ask how

OK, so you weren't entirely drunk.


I was in that Dutch bar from 11 in the morning till 8 in the evening, teachers didn't like it

What? Is this a daytime bar, or something? I hardly ever start drinking before 8pm. :?

Well I don't remember anymore LOL I just woke up in my bed

Yeah that bar was open 24 hours a day LOL

Your liver is probably kaputz :lol:

It was that day, but Ive learned my lesson :lol:

[TopGearNL]

Thank God for the liver being able to repair itself fast :mrgreen:

Indeed :wink: :twisted:

[Stoopie]

Hm just gimme beer :D I ain't too fond of all those girly drinks ;)

[Mattk]

^Same here. Girls I know tend to like over-priced rubbish such as vodka and lemon-lime, Midori with pineapple juice and flavoured Smirnoff.

[TopGearNL]

^Same here. Girls I know tend to like over-priced rubbish such as vodka and lemon-lime, Midori with pineapple juice and flavoured Smirnoff.

Yep we call them Breezer sluts :wink:

[nthfinity]

I drink Beer; mans Beer.

I can drink Liquer, but I don't have anything to prove anymore.

I don't drink wine, but will drink Champaign if I'm in France.

I don't drink mixed drinks, except a Devils Elbow, or it's more widely known little brother.

[Mattk]

Yep we call them Breezer sluts

After the Bacardi Breezers? That stuff looks like toxic waste as depicted in B-grade comedy films.

I quite like champagne, good champagne.

[TopGearNL]

Yep we call them Breezer sluts

After the Bacardi Breezers? That stuff looks like toxic waste as depicted in B-grade comedy films.

I quite like champagne, good champagne.

Yep after the Bacardi Breezer... :wink:

I like champagne too, Im a winedrinker :P


In the frat we refer to them as breezies...

LOL didn't know that one!

[Al Fucking Gore]

Breezers, Mikes brand lemonade/tea/etc. etc./ smirnoff/etc. etc.

you have to be a cocksucker to drink that pansy ass shit

" I want my alcohol to smell like flowers and taste like fruit " = GAY

[Mattk]

I remember this Smirnoff Raw Tea advertisement I saw on Youtube once. Has anyone had it?

[TopGearNL]

you have to be a cocksucker to drink that pansy ass shit

I agree strangly :? :P

[Stoopie]

^Same here. Girls I know tend to like over-priced rubbish such as vodka and lemon-lime, Midori with pineapple juice and flavoured Smirnoff.

Precisely, well I can't say those brands don't have their marketing sorted out well ;) But those drinks sure deliver stupid drunken sluts yeah :P

[Mattk]

But those drinks sure deliver stupid drunken sluts yeah

Well, yes, but I can't really say that because they're my friends. :P

[Stoopie]

LOL so you've got slutty girlfriends? ;)

[Mattk]

No, not girlfriends, just normal ones (i'm not that lucky), and they're not sluts! They just act strange when drunk.

[pitfield]

Cold Lager Beer in summer

Ale in Winter.

Scotch and ginger later on.

Tequila to get fucked.

[Mattk]

Tequila to get fucked.

I know girls who take tequila shots and then literally, get fucked afterwards. All consensual of course, and I was involved in any of this....

[Stoopie]

No, not girlfriends, just normal ones (i'm not that lucky), and they're not sluts! They just act strange when drunk.

Acting strange, ah yes that's something completely different ;) It's fun watching those girls get wasted, but it's anoying when they come riding up to you, knowing that they're about to throw up ;)

[pitfield]

Drunken girls, if you sleep with them they might not remember consentingthe night before. Best to make sure that you are more drunk than the girls.

[Mattk]

^You could just not tell them about it.

[Stoopie]

^ LOL yes that'd be the best solution for all ;)

[pitfield]

How do you explain the 'map of africa' on the bed sheets?

[Stoopie]

^ Tell her that a midget was wanking in your bed, and silently left?

[pitfield]

Left over from the slightly better party the night before?

[TopGearNL]

No, not girlfriends, just normal ones (i'm not that lucky), and they're not sluts! They just act strange when drunk.

Acting strange, ah yes that's something completely different ;) It's fun watching those girls get wasted, but it's anoying when they come riding up to you, knowing that they're about to throw up ;)

Yep that is true..

[TopGearNL]

you name it I drink it, enough said!!

Ammonia, battery acid, urine? :wink: :P

[Stoopie]

^ LOL, it's always nasty to say 'name it, I'll do it, inhere ronin ;)

[dutchmasterflex]

If you like Guiness and Bailey's, try an Irish Car Bomb.

Pour a half pint of Guiness, then make a shot of half baileys and half whiskey (preferably Jameson Irish Whiskey).

Drop the shot into the glass of Guiness and chug. Drink it quick or else it will start to curdle and get all nasty.

Tastes just like a chocolate milkshake ;)

[Erez]

I rather not think about my fav drinks at the moment, cause I can't drink anything for the next 5 months (6 months in total, already a month in it..) :?

[bmagni]

Mainly I drink wine, scotch, beer from time to time, and champagne to celebrate...

[bmagni]

Try Greygoose and Tonic and some 7up its good.

Dry Gin and Sprite/7up is really good too

[TopGearNL]

If you like Guiness and Bailey's, try an Irish Car Bomb.

Pour a half pint of Guiness, then make a shot of half baileys and half whiskey (preferably Jameson Irish Whiskey).

Drop the shot into the glass of Guiness and chug. Drink it quick or else it will start to curdle and get all nasty.

Tastes just like a chocolate milkshake ;)

Ill try that one day, thanks for the tip! :D

[dutchmasterflex]

^ I highly recommend it ;)

Also try a "Jager bomb"

Drop one shot of Jagermeister into a glass of Redbull, chug.

[Stoopie]

^ OMG we might as well call this topic: 'Hello I'm a girly drinker' ;)

[dutchmasterflex]

Yeah it's good.. Redbull and vodka (preferably Kettle One) is my #1 drink at the bars.. keeps me going till the early mornin' every time ;)

[Mattk]

My uncle once told me about the "atomic bomb", whereby you pour a shot of vodka into a schooner of beer. Then there's the nuclear bomb, which is a shot of beer into a schooner of vodka!

[callen]

Beer:

Alexander Keiths
Bavaria (Holland)
Corona in the summer or when the $$$ is flowing
Stella Artois (same as above)
Moosehead dry ice (when the $$$ is def not flowing)

Hard stuff:

Bacardi Rum w/ diet pepsi lime
Ameretto w/ coke
Whiskey gingers.. or coke but prefer gingerale

Other than that pretty much anything i can get my hands on... also stick to the drink specials so if its shitty draft ill drink that.

I am not big on shots.. had a bad experience some years ago involving a bottle of tequlia and less than one hours time (i did split it)

[Stoopie]

Hm I guess I have to say I like cocktails a lot, but no girly drinks. I hate girly drinks. I like beer. :mrgreen:

[Mattk]

Gay people like girly drinks. I have gay friends who buy girly drinks all the time, for some reason.

[TopGearNL]

Gay people like girly drinks. I have gay friends who buy girly drinks all the time, for some reason.

And that surprises you? :|

[Stoopie]

Gay people like girly drinks. I have gay friends who buy girly drinks all the time, for some reason.

Damn I'm so with you on this one! I hate girly-drink-drinkers. :lol:

[Mattk]

And that surprises you?

No. :P


I hate girly-drink-drinkers.

So you hate girls? So anti-social... :P

[evoWalo]

I have very low tolerance to alcohol and I think it's great. I dont drink as much as other people to get that buzz. I sober up pretty quick. I have a virtual nil chance of killing my liver. I spend a fraction of the time and money others can. I can afford to buy the good stuff and still be able to have some left for a few days down the road. ;)

[dutchmasterflex]

I have very low tolerance to alcohol and I think it's great. I dont drink as much as other people to get that buzz. I sober up pretty quick. I have a virtual nil chance of killing my liver. I spend a fraction of the time and money others can. I can afford to buy the good stuff and still be able to have some left for a few days down the road. ;)

Yeah, it will catch up to you ;)

By any chance, do you turn red when you drink? And why haven't you started drinking earlier? It's not like there's an enforced drinking age in the Philippines..

[TNT]

scotch and coke for me.

[TopGearNL]

So you hate girls? So anti-social...

He likes David Hasselhoff, says enough... :wink:

[evoWalo]

i do turn red and i guess the reason why i didnt became a more frequent drinker earlier is because my friends tend to get drunk through local beers (read: cheap friends) which i know now that i am allergic too. I'd describe my allergy as the feeling of my chest feels like it is within a vice grip and my heart's about to assplode. That kinda got me stuck in "i'm allergic to all alcohol" but after trying other stuff it appears I am allergic to pale pilsen.

3/4ths of a bottle of Vodka Ice or light beer already gets me tipsy/drink.

Yeah, it will catch up to you ;)

By any chance, do you turn red when you drink? And why haven't you started drinking earlier? It's not like there's an enforced drinking age in the Philippines..

[Stoopie]

So you hate girls? So anti-social...

He likes David Hasselhoff, says enough... :wink:

*sigh* I didn't say I hate girls :P I said I hate girly-drink-drinkers! And with that I mean the men who drink those girly drinks ;) Remember, girls were the only reason those drinks were invented, they wanted something different for a change! Men just stuck with beer. :D

[TopGearNL]

So you hate girls? So anti-social...

He likes David Hasselhoff, says enough... :wink:

*sigh* I didn't say I hate girls :P I said I hate girly-drink-drinkers! And with that I mean the men who drink those girly drinks ;) Remember, girls were the only reason those drinks were invented, they wanted something different for a change! Men just stuck with beer. :D

Or wine, or whisky :wink:

[Stoopie]

^ No men stuck with beer. Girly-men stuck with wine, and the leftovers stuck with whiskey :mrgreen:

[TopGearNL]

^ No men stuck with beer. Girly-men stuck with wine, and the leftovers stuck with whiskey :mrgreen:


Wine a girly drink? :?

Yeah right, dream on sunny.. You have alot to learn :wink:

Im with you on the Whisky bit though LOL

[Stoopie]

^ Yes wine is a girly drink, especially when you're of your age. And don't keep telling me I have a lot to learn, damn that's getting annoying.. Especially on this one, trust me youngster ;)

Btw, you don't want to tell me that you drink wine when you're going on a night out? That's just gay! I can understand that you'd like to drink a nice red wine when discussing things or something.. when you're 40+ ;)

[TopGearNL]

/\/\ Uh I work in a Wine and spirits shop :wink:

No I don't drink wine when I go out, offcourse not but I do drink wine in general. Oh and I sell this stuff, also know what it tastes like so I win on this one sonny!

[Stoopie]

/\/\ Uh I work in a Wine and spirits shop :wink:

No I don't drink wine when I go out, offcourse not but I do drink wine in general. Oh and I sell this stuff, also know what it tastes like so I win on this one sonny!

*sigh* I know what water tastes like, that doesn't make me a winner now does it? And I used to sell it a few years ago, and most of the clientele were older men/women. Don't tell me I'm not right, I just know it's true! And if there were any youngsters like you, it'd be girls!

[Mattk]

Men just stuck with beer.

Actually, the Ancient Greeks and Romans were very keen on wine, because there was no beer. I drink wine if it's served/free, or if there's no beer, but I'd never buy a glass of wine for myself.

[Stoopie]

Men just stuck with beer.

Actually, the Ancient Greeks and Romans were very keen on wine, because there was no beer. I drink wine if it's served/free, or if there's no beer, but I'd never buy a glass of wine for myself.

Yes they were. And that's why they are no longer here ;) j/k I know about the ancient world, they used to honour Bacchus, the god of drinking and wine.. Now that says a lot ;) I honour Heineken now ;) And sure, if it's for free and the only thing to drink, I'd prefer wine to water :)

[TopGearNL]

/\/\ Uh I work in a Wine and spirits shop :wink:

No I don't drink wine when I go out, offcourse not but I do drink wine in general. Oh and I sell this stuff, also know what it tastes like so I win on this one sonny!

*sigh* I know what water tastes like, that doesn't make me a winner now does it? And I used to sell it a few years ago, and most of the clientele were older men/women. Don't tell me I'm not right, I just know it's true! And if there were any youngsters like you, it'd be girls!

Well Im not gonna say your not right but it depends on what you sell. Cocktails are extreme popular lately, at least in the ''Randstad''. I don't drink them, so no girly drinks too for me. But I do drink wine and if you say only girls or older people drink wine, thats total BS!

You can say its gay, fine by me but you don't think gay people drink beer too?

I don't drink wine if I go out, I drink it with a nice meal...

[Mattk]

Apparently Heineken uses slave labour to make its bottles. Even if it is true (which I doubt), I'll still drink it. Heineken is not cheap though.

[TopGearNL]

but I'd never buy a glass of wine for myself.

That I agree on!

Stoopie you honour Heineken? LMAO!

[Mattk]

First David Hasselhoff and now Heineken...where will it end?

[Stoopie]

:P Well, I have to chauffeur a client next thursday, I don't know what car he drives.. Maybe I'll be honouring him if it's a 350+bhp car ;)

*edit: Well actually I prefer Amstel :)

[Stoopie]

Apparently Heineken uses slave labour to make its bottles. Even if it is true (which I doubt), I'll still drink it. Heineken is not cheap though.

I bet it isn't cheap in Australia, import beer :( Over here it is actually, I'll send you a few bottles in a bit ;)

[TopGearNL]

:P Well, I have to chauffeur a client next thursday, I don't know what car he drives.. Maybe I'll be honouring him if it's a 350+bhp car ;)

*edit: Well actually I prefer Amstel :)

Asskisser :wink:

I like Hertog Jan, but I adore Carlsberg :D

[Mattk]

Yes, imported beer is so expensive here. Fortunately, we have our own beer. :)

[Stoopie]

:P Well, I have to chauffeur a client next thursday, I don't know what car he drives.. Maybe I'll be honouring him if it's a 350+bhp car ;)

*edit: Well actually I prefer Amstel :)

Asskisser :wink:

I like Hertog Jan, but I adore Carlsberg :D

Asskisser? LOL :P I bet you'd like the person too if he offered you to drive his 350+bhp car and paid you for it! ;)

[TopGearNL]

Yes, imported beer is so expensive here. Fortunately, we have our own beer. :)

Fosters? :lol:

[Stoopie]

Yes, imported beer is so expensive here. Fortunately, we have our own beer. :)

Kangaroo urine?

[TopGearNL]

:P Well, I have to chauffeur a client next thursday, I don't know what car he drives.. Maybe I'll be honouring him if it's a 350+bhp car ;)

*edit: Well actually I prefer Amstel :)

Asskisser :wink:

I like Hertog Jan, but I adore Carlsberg :D

Asskisser? LOL :P I bet you'd like the person too if he offered you to drive his 350+bhp car and paid you for it! ;)

That is true actually :oops: :lol:

[Mattk]

No, normal beer. Fosters is rubbish that is export-only. Well, actually, it's made in the UK. You can't buy it in Australia, and nobody would want to anyway. We prefer stuff like Victoria Bitter, Tooheys New, Carlton Draught, XXXX, etc.

[Stoopie]

:P Well, I have to chauffeur a client next thursday, I don't know what car he drives.. Maybe I'll be honouring him if it's a 350+bhp car ;)

*edit: Well actually I prefer Amstel :)

Asskisser :wink:

I like Hertog Jan, but I adore Carlsberg :D

Asskisser? LOL :P I bet you'd like the person too if he offered you to drive his 350+bhp car and paid you for it! ;)

That is true actually :oops: :lol:

LOL it's official, the first time we agree ;) :lol: j/k

No, normal beer. Fosters is rubbish that is export-only. Well, actually, it's made in the UK. You can't buy it in Australia, and nobody would want to anyway. We prefer stuff like Victoria Bitter, Tooheys New, Carlton Draught, XXXX, etc.

Hm did know there were so many Australian beers :) Another motivation to go drink more :P

[TopGearNL]

No, normal beer. Fosters is rubbish that is export-only. Well, actually, it's made in the UK. You can't buy it in Australia, and nobody would want to anyway. We prefer stuff like Victoria Bitter, Tooheys New, Carlton Draught, XXXX, etc.

I was just about to say, Fosters is awful :shock:

I drink Guinnes, Murphys Irish Red, Newcastle Brown Ale, Carlsberg, Duvel, Jupiler, Hertog Jan, Alfa and Warsteiner. Love all of them!

[Mattk]

Of course there are many Australian beers. We have lots of wine as well, and Bundaberg Rum. When you're isolated from the rest of the world, with only New Zealand to keep you company, you have to do stuff yourself.

[TopGearNL]

Of course there are many Australian beers. We have lots of wine as well, and Bundaberg Rum. When you're isolated from the rest of the world, with only New Zealand to keep you company, you have to do stuff yourself.

I love Hardys, thats from Australia

The Chardonnay is superb!

[Stoopie]

^ LOL that's a great reason for it yes ;) So I bet you've got everything you need over there then? :D Strange idea that Australia used to be a Dutch prison :?

[Mattk]

No, Australia was never Dutch. Yes, you folks were the first white guys to land, but all Dirk Hartog and his merry lost sailors did was chuck a pewter plate on the beach and sail off to make money. The Brits set up the prison.

[TopGearNL]

No, Australia was never Dutch. Yes, you folks were the first white guys to land, but all Dirk Hartog and his merry lost sailors did was chuck a pewter plate on the beach and sail off to make money. The Brits set up the prison.

Very true, what on earth are you on about Stoopie?

Don't you remember the Dutch explorer Abel Tasman? He found Tasmania (named after him) and he found New Zealand, but he missed Australia :lol:

[Stoopie]

^ Hm I really thought Australia used to be our prison, well must've switched things then. What I'm trying to say is: I love beer. ;)

[Stoopie]

No, Australia was never Dutch. Yes, you folks were the first white guys to land, but all Dirk Hartog and his merry lost sailors did was chuck a pewter plate on the beach and sail off to make money. The Brits set up the prison.

Very true, what on earth are you on about Stoopie?

Don't you remember the Dutch explorer Abel Tasman? He found Tasmania (named after him) and he found New Zealand, but he missed Australia :lol:

Oh btw, I did some research: he really did find Australia. In 1606, the Dutch ship Duyfken found unknown land, and they entered that in the Gulf of Carpentaria, in the north of Australia. 10 years later, another Dutch ship reached the westcoast of Australia and the captains of the two ships named it 'New Holland'. In 1642 captain Abel Tasman (your guy TGNL) rounded things up by discovering 'Van Diemensland' (now called Tasmania) and discovered Australia was an island. In 1768, James Cook and his men discovered the eastcoast of Australia and named it 'New South Wales'. After that, they decided to head north, and on January 26th 1788 they reached land on a place which we now call Sydney!

>> So TGNL sorry but you're wrong here, he really did reach Australia!

>> And yes Mattk, you're right, the British used the island as a prison for they overcrowded situation back home.. :oops:

[Mattk]

After that, they decided to head north, and on January 26th 1788 they reached land on a place which we now call Sydney!

That wasn't Cook. This was the First Fleet with Capt. Arthur Phillip. And Cook actually arrived in 1770, whilst on an expedition around the world on behalf of the Royal Society. ;)

[TopGearNL]

So TGNL sorry but you're wrong here, he really did reach Australia!

I never said he didn't :wink:

But we didn't own Australia, well not all of it..

[Stoopie]

So TGNL sorry but you're wrong here, he really did reach Australia!

I never said he didn't :wink:

But we didn't own Australia, well not all of it..

Nope, only the northern and western part, the rest was British I suppose.

And if you say he missed Australia, I assume you mean he didn't reach it or he didn't get there...

[TopGearNL]

And if you say he missed Australia, I assume you mean he didn't reach it or he didn't get there...

He missed it at first, thats why the Brits found it sooner :wink:

[Stoopie]

And if you say he missed Australia, I assume you mean he didn't reach it or he didn't get there...

He missed it at first, thats why the Brits found it sooner :wink:

Thought you thought that already: Tasman found Australia in 1648, Cook in 1768!

[TopGearNL]

And if you say he missed Australia, I assume you mean he didn't reach it or he didn't get there...

He missed it at first, thats why the Brits found it sooner :wink:

Thought you thought that already: Tasman found Australia in 1648, Cook in 1768!

LOL that line makes no sense at all..

What do you mean?

[Stoopie]

You said the Brits found Australia sooner, well Tasman found Australia in 1648, and Cook in 1768! So the Dutch actually were 120 years earlier :)

[TopGearNL]

You said the Brits found Australia sooner, well Tasman found Australia in 1648, and Cook in 1768! So the Dutch actually were 120 years earlier :)

That is true, Im not gonna argue about facts.

But:
After sporadic visits by fishermen from the north and by European explorers and merchants starting in the seventeenth century, the eastern half of the mainland was claimed by the British in 1770

Vanuit het oogpunt van de VOC waren Tasmans ontdekkingen een mislukking: hij had geen geschikt handelsgebied gevonden, noch verbeterde zeeroutes naar bekende gebieden. Gedurende meer dan een eeuw (tot de tijd van James Cook), zou de reis van Tasman het enige Europese bezoek aan Tasmanië en Nieuw-Zeeland blijven. Australië werd nog wel enkele malen bezocht, maar meestal alleen bij toeval.

So it wasn't found by the British first, but they did own it and might have not been the real founders in theory, but in real life... :wink:

[Stoopie]

We're talking about facts here, and in fact the Dutch discovered it, in contrary to what you said :) That's what my point here, not what happened in real life. And even though, in real life it was still discovered by the Dutch, though it may have not been to any use for the VOC, they still got there before the British did. :)

[TopGearNL]

We're talking about facts here, and in fact the Dutch discovered it, in contrary to what you said :) That's what my point here, not what happened in real life. And even though, in real life it was still discovered by the Dutch, though it may have not been to any use for the VOC, they still got there before the British did. :)

True but what I mean is that if he would have found it even sooner, on his first voyage and found a different part then he actual did maybe he could have claimed it just like the british did. The british found the ''real'' Australia since Tasman only found worthless desert or so..

So Im not saying your wrong, thats stupid since its facts but its not the entire story :wink:

[Stoopie]

*sigh* now you're just trying to turn things around so you're not that wrong ;)

What if he just walked with his troops through Australia and reached the eastcoast by foot, then he would've discovered entire Australia by foot.. What if.. ;)

[TopGearNL]

*sigh* now you're just trying to turn things around so you're not that wrong ;)

What if he just walked with his troops through Australia and reached the eastcoast by foot, then he would've discovered entire Australia by foot.. What if.. ;)

No Im not, your right, I already said so!

But this was a different point, and yes he would have found entire Australia :wink:

[Stoopie]

LOL :P Maybe he should've brought his bicycle, he would've been faster that way!

[Stoopie]

Oh and he shouldn't drink when he's driving that bicycle of course, it'll only take longer that way. And we're back on topic! :D

[ldin]

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http://www.cyberplace.nl/breuls/i/pics/heineken.jpg

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http://www.gono.com/beermagazineads/heineken/h2.jpg

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http://www.digitel.hr/festo2002/Heineken%20TheInterceptor.jpg

HEINEKEN!!! :puke: :puke:

[TopGearNL]

/\/\ I agree Idin :mrgreen:

[ldin]

:) :) :) :) :) :)

you smell

[Stoopie]

here we go again

[ldin]

401 posts bitches

[Mattk]

The british found the ''real'' Australia since Tasman only found worthless desert or so..

Actually, Tasmania is not desert. It may not be much, but people still live there.